Thứ Năm, 27 tháng 10, 2016

Social Chat - Short Term TSLA Movements part 14

  • 1/1/2015
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    Yeah, personally I really like the risk/reward profile. I'll lose money if TSLA closes below 199 or above 226 but the potential gain of 80% return on money at risk in a week is very attractive.

    Sorry the original post had the wrong numbers... I was writing in bed on my phone and realized/edited the mistake a few minutes after posting but by then I think you probably read it and replied.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    With the talk of the Gigafactory I thought it might be appropriate to suggest Lithium mining companies again. I know that Lithium is a very small component of the lithium batteries but
    Western Lithium Company (start up) is up over 20% since Tesla 4thQ ER. Coincidence?

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  • 1/1/2015
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    Thanks for sharing these trades. Always fun learning what others are doing.

    I sold a bull put spread last week of 215/205 for $5. So max gain $5 and max pain of $5. The $209 area was looking pretty strong and I was fairly confident we could stay at least above $210 this week which would be break even for me, but over $215 would be max gain. Already 40% profit but will hold on a bit longer.

    It was nice being able to use the credit for some other solar trades but that can be dangerous if TSLA had went down and I wanted to close out the bull put spread.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    Weekly credit spreads are definitely interesting. They have their own risks so I'm personally starting small and learning along the way. I felt like there hasn't been much talk about weekly credit spreads here so I thought it would be good to share some trades so people can see the benefits/disadvantages and how they turn out so the community here can learn together. Thanks for sharing your trade.
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    Western Lithium Corp is around since Sep 2008.
    One TMC member quoted a few days ago about having bought their shares.
    In Frankfurt today somebody bought/sold 70000 shares, another person 14000 shares (09:15 and 08:50).
    Could be coincidence, but I really don't know.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    Despite some money on the sidelines, I've got deer in the headlights syndrome. It seems like I've been schooled/burned buying calls (or stock for that matter) at ATHs in the past, but given the gigafactory upcoming and the low post-ER IV on TSLA, I'm not keen to sell calls or puts either. Similar situation with most of the solars right now as well.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    You know what they say about iron condors... You get stomach ulcers if the stock moves either way.
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    What is up with these incredibly tight intraday trading ranges? Both yesterday and today, afternoon trading has been in an unnaturally narrow band.
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    i believe shorts covering. use computer to buy as many shares without raising price
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    Seems like http://www.westernlithium.com/ is focusing on Hectatone for the Oil and Gas industry. I wonder how much Lithium they could provide and does TM use Lithium Carbonate or would they need to produce a new product?

    How about http://www.canadalithium.com/s/QuebecLithium.asp? http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=RBI.TO%2C+&ql=0

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    This was a tough decision for me to buy because with the major product helping oil and gas exploration it goes counter to my recent investing in more green companies. Since human beings can rationalize anything I convinced myself it will produce lithium for the new TM gigafactory.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    I'm with you. Seems like it is the only US company capable. However, there is a Canadian company that I added to my original post.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    Anyone want to guess how long the slow short squeeze will last?
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    Can't find your original post - what is the Canadian company?
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    Do you do these iron condors as a delayed construct? Or do you set them up at the same time sometimes as well?
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    I've only been doing them the past few weeks so I don't have much experience. But I've been researching how some experienced traders play weeklies and found that selling premium seems to be more consistent of a play vs buying premium.

    This week's iron condor was a delayed construct since I sold the Feb28 200/197.5 bull put spread last Friday (when stock was at around $210) and I sold the Feb28 225/227.5 bear call spread today when the stock was at about $216-ish. That allows me to have a very wide range (200-225) where I can keep the full credit. I was actually going to play this week with just a bull put credit spread only but when the stock rose to $216+ I changed my mind and added the bear call credit spread to make the iron condor.

    Today I also sold the Feb28 230/232.5 bear call spread when the stock was at $217. If the stock drops (ie., to 210 or so) I'll look into selling a 200/197.5 bull put spread since I'm fairly confident that the stock will hold 200, and that will make an iron condor. But if the stock doesn't drop I'll just keep my existing 230/232.5 bear call spread.

    Last week post-earnings was similar where I started off Thursday morning bullish by selling a Feb14 210/205 bull put spread (thinking that was going to be my only post-earnings weekly play) but when the stock wasn't rising on Thursday, later that afternoon I sold a bear call spread (but I made a mistake and bought the wrong expiration so I sold it the same afternoon). My wife who's been following me in some of these trades with different strikes, did something similar where she started out Thursday morning last week by selling a 205/200 bull put spread and then later that day became less bullish and sold a Feb14 222.5/225 bear call spread.

    If I thought the stock would be trading in a tighter range I wouldn't mind setting up both legs of an iron condor at the same time, but I'm expecting a wide range of volatility this week so that's why I delayed the construct.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    Dave, why do you make your spreads so tight? I see that the difference between the 230 and the 232 weekly call is only about 30 cents. Is that the profit you're looking for? I've been selling them completely naked, and I haven't liked my approach because of the risk. I like your strategy but i'm trying to figure out why you don't give it a 5 dollar spread, or go naked but farther out of the money.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    I was starting out with $5 spreads but then experimented with $2.50 spreads and noticed I could get slightly better premium for them and I could just double my position (vs $5 spread). But that might change as I go along. I also don't do market orders for these spreads but set a limit order. I'll also sell the 230 and buy the 232.5 calls at the same time so I can easily see my credit and exposure. For the 230/232.5 bear call spread, it currently shows as a $0.30 credit (max loss would be $2.20), but that's because the large ask/bid spread. If you set a $0.40 limit order, it probably would have gotten executed and so your credit would be $0.40 (max profit) and your max loss (margin requirement) would be $2.10. So you're looking at 19% gain for the amount of money risked. But if you think the chances of ending the week above 230 is very small, then 19% gain on money risked is not bad since the risk would be small. However, if you moved the strikes lower (ie., 225/227.5) you would get more credit, maybe $0.65 (max profit) with a $1.85 (max loss), but your risks of ending over 225 would be higher than the other spread where the stock would need to end over 230 to eat into your credits and/or start causing loss.

    Most traders doing this kind of trade seem to pick strikes much closer to the money. For example at 217.5 stock price, if you're bullish on the week one might sell a 215/210 bull put spread. Or if one is bearish, then they might sell a 220/225 bear call spread. Or if you think it's very range bound then you might do a tight iron condor (combo of both trades). But this week I'm being extra cautious because of what I expect to be volatility so I'm giving up higher credit (max profit) in return for further OTM strikes but less credit and higher max loss. The trading range I'm expecting is 200-225.

    I personally have stayed away from selling naked puts or calls since it's way too risky for me (ie., for selling naked calls the risk could be unlimited). Also, selling naked puts/calls requirements large margin requirements which I don't like as well. But these credit spreads only require you to have in cash/margin the amount of your max loss on the trade. So, it's possible to do these trades in a non-margin account like a Roth IRA and to not tie up too much capital in the trades as well.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    Short Term TSLA Investor Social Chat

    Another piece of information on the difference between $5 spread and $2.50 spreads...

    This morning (when stock was at about $217) I put in a limit order to sell a 230/232.5 bear call spread. The limit order was for $0.35 credit but it was by accident as I was supposed to enter a $0.40 limit order. The $0.35 limit order got executed immediately for $0.37. If I would have entered a $0.40 I'm pretty sure it would have been executed after several minutes.

    At the same time, my wife put in a limit order for $0.70 credit for a 230/235 bear call spread. It took her order a while to fill (ie., 10 minutes).

    Now if you compare the two trades (assuming if my trade was a $0.40 like it was intended to be):
    1. 230/235 bear call spread
    $0.70 credit (max profit)
    $4.30 (max loss)
    loss starts at 230.70

    2. 230/232.5 bear call spread (I'm going to double the position so that it equals the $5 spread)
    $0.80 credit, max profit (double position)
    $4.20 max loss (double position)
    loss starts at 230.40

    So if you compare the two trades, the $2.50 spread is actually the better trade with a higher max profit and lower max loss. It might have been how the bid/ask prices spreads were working at the time, but I've seen this happen several times where it's to my advantage to just take a double position in a $2.5 spread vs a normal position in a $5 spread. I do need to pay more commissions on the $2.5 spread trade since it's a double position but the commission difference is nominal.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    Excellent breakdown - thank you. In your third paragraph you meant to put "230/235". I had to go back and check from your breakdown below.

    Like you said, your results may be skewed because the trades were done at different times. Next time you are doing one of these trades, would you mind doing a quick comparison of the simultaneous differences between strike price differences of 2.5, 5 and 10? I think that would be really useful information for all of us (with all centred on the same strike price unlike the one above)? I have done a couple of these now, but have done it with a strike price difference of 10 with fewer contracts. I agree that the commission price difference makes a minimal overall effect.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    Thanks for catching that. Just made the change.
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    It's a bit tough to show the actual differences because the ask/bid spreads are significant and it's difficult to know at what credit you can really sell the spread until you actually put in a limit order and see if it fills or not.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    Good point. I guess you and your wife would have to try to make simultaneous trades to test it. Sounds like a good date night activity!
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    Actually it's usually a morning activity in bed while we're still half asleep. Not a recommended way to trade but what can I say.
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    Careful - I think this site is G-rated.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    Interesting trades. Personally I'm not a fan of the spreads that have like a $.40 max profit and $2.10 max loss or anything like that. Essentially if the max loss is like 2x or more I stay away. Mainly because with a volatile stock like TSLA you might think $2xx isn't likely but we can be there in the blink of an eye. I feel like these types of trades might work better with other more "stable" stocks.

    I like something more along the lines of $2.50 max profit and loss b/c the way I look at it, it's the same as me buying calls and selling when they've doubled. Except the huge advantage is that I don't have to put the money up front (but should have cash on hand to cover if needed) and more importantly, time decay isn't killing me (since I'm assuming these are weeklies). At least this is how I'm seeing it. Still experimenting though.

    DaveT, you really got me interested in learning more about these trades b/c I'm fairly convinced that they were the right way to play the ER. The more I think about it the more I think buying OTM calls were a bad idea. You had to have had the perfect strike calls to have made some decent returns, otherwise IV drop and time decay are killing you.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    Morgan Stanley's $320 price target is big news IMO. I plan to exit any short calls in my spreads tomorrow morning.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    When I was watching Frankfurt trading this morning I was thinking about all the shorts that are waking up in a few hours. :wink:
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    I know what I'm having with breakfast tomorrow.

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  • 1/1/2015
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    A work of art! $227 in premarket right now. This stock is a MONSTER.

    Buy the way DougK: It's time to double down on the short again :)
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  • 1/1/2015
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    My Lord, it's going to be a massacre on shorts this week.. Morgan Stanleys report will definitely have shorts covering + Gigafactory announcement (which I assume is going to be great � la Musk style) + a potential NHTSA clearance that can come at anytime....
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    I thought my computer was lying to me when I pulled up the premarket trading this morning. I then checked for news and now it makes sense :D It might gap down to start, or maybe it'll just shoot straight up, but either way it is going to be a good day!

    Glad I still have some March 7th calls...
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  • 1/1/2015
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    +1: Got up earlier than usual to get my child to an early school arrival and thought the site I check Premarket had a glitch..check here...no glitch. Seriously must consider retiring. Thanks Morgan Stanley. This is not going to be pretty for the shorts. I feel sorry for...wait...no I don't!

    DaveT: I will help you buy that plane ticket and dinner for Speedy if (looking more like when) the stock hits $280 by March 31st.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    Breaking news: DaveT to cause short squeeze while unwinding his short positions at market open; after his iron condors grew wings overnight and flew away with his money.
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    LOL
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    Nah, Doug Kass is going to claim "But of course I covered the short profitably at $209". Seems like he tweets hindsight paper trades. I feel bad for anyone suckered into trusting their money with him.
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    His followers on twitter are making fun of the MS upgrade. like moths to the flame they come.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    Well, congrats to everyone who has managed to hold on to their options. I have my common and am very happy today but also somewhat regretting I sold the March 205 options I had.
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    Ugh, feel ur pain. I sold my March options yesterday:'( I was using a lot of margin and was getting uncomfortable with the short term options. Oh well, can't be too disappointed with profit.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    Seriously you guys and your crazy constructs. The stock was breaking out last week too. I just find the calls that are ITM enough to have cheap IV and buy for next month, until I think this breakout is over.

    In other news, holy crap is the breakout over yet? At what point do we start the thread with the title "I am a huge TSLA bull, but at this valuation...."

    - - - Updated - - -

    Think it will sag on the open again? The "obvious" play here might be to sell common right now and pick it up again in an hour for $220.... I will not follow this advice and wonder why not...
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  • 1/1/2015
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    I believe this will happen with a very high % of probability. However, mye stock remains in the safe and options can't be traded outside of trading hours...
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  • 1/1/2015
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    I am going to sell about half. Take that as a good omen for an open at $240!
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  • 1/1/2015
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    I swear, before this year is done I will sell my entire position to a weeping hedge fund manager in an open 60th story window somewhere. Just haven't decided on the price yet. Now that MS has upgraded their price target, how does $400 sound? $500?

    Agree with your sentiment about "I'm a huge Tesla bull, but...". At some point things will surely be in the realm of ridiculousness.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    I have an open market limit order to rebuy them at $225 :) Peanuts compared to what my 3/22 calls are going to do, but I thought I would try to be clever for once, sniping $5k if it works.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    Anyone unloading weeklies today? I bought options a few months ago that are expiring this week - trying to figure out if I should hold on or sell them at open
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  • 1/1/2015
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    It's a full-on short squeeze. No question about it.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    Thanks. I hope that you are able to see the irony of what you posted and how you traded.
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    Aw. Well, I still think $250 is on the table for today...
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  • 1/1/2015
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    Well now I don't know what to do with my weeklies. I bought them for the gifafactory announcement.
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    Next up prediction time: New offering oversubscribed at $240/share, yielding the world's cheapest battery factory at the expense of short selling hedge funds.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    he nailed it! haha
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    I had $230 weeklies up 1200%. Had to sell them. Still holding weekly $220s, but they are ONLY up 250% from where I bought them.

    That was fun.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    Yes! I also washed my car so you can thank me for the Texas rain :)
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    I have a sell order in for $250, well see.
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    Most recently Doug Kass upping his contribution. Claims he shorted more at $232 in pre-market this morning (again he magically is able to get just about the highs in his hindsight tweets).
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  • 1/1/2015
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    So what's a smart move to do now. Cash in some profits or just wait for 320$ and then see what Morgen Stanley comes up with next?
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    What a financial genius, it's now around. $242-$243, good call Doug :)
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    First time driving the car in rain? After all you only had it for 4 months or so.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    Looks like the shorts are buying us a factory. Just like they paid off our DOE loan. Very kind of them.
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    For the record I used the cash to buy weeklies at the open. I will be rebuying the shares for free.

    Car has been in the rain once or twice maybe.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    LOL. Sitting at a meeting with 15 people, they are looking at me why I chuckle.... :tongue:
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  • 1/1/2015
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    It's really just a fantastic turn of events. Even if the price doesn't stay at this level, this ensures financing for Tesla at ridiculously low cost. So ironically, the shorts are helping bring about the scenario they said would never happen.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    What I would love to know is if Morgan Stanley will be one of the underwriters of whatever new financing is announced for the Gigafactory.

    Seems like the groundwork has just been laid for Tesla to swoop in and get incredibly favorable terms for its new capitalization. Like it did last time.

    These guys are playing the game like real pros. Onwards to $1000!
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  • 1/1/2015
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    who wants to guess where this peaks out today before some profit taking? Is $248 all we get? I can't help but think of TFTF and smile, he and his 10,000 negative comments on SA and current short position.
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    All the margin calls been made?
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    Well, margin calls are based on prev night's closing price. So maybe for today, but with this kind of movement there may be another round tomorrow.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    Got to work, brought up my Google finance page and practically did a spit take with my tea! Wow!

    Like someone else, I'd bought a couple weeklies (obviously not nearly as many as I should have) for the gigafactory reveal and now I'm pondering how much more that announcement could possibly move things and if I should get out of them now.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    You have to take some profits. Don't push your luck with these kinds of gains. At least take your cost basis out so that you are playing with the house's money.
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    I'm sitting on some march 200s and march 220s with handsome gains. What would you guys do with these, Roll em up or just let them ride another two weeks?
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    I have sold 3/4 of my short term calls at $148, expecting there will be a near term chance to rebuy them for cheaper. Note you should do the opposite of me!
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    Normally I would probably have taken profits now or rolled them out to June or Leaps, but with the Gigafactory announcement this week it makes the decision quite difficult.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    I bought last year in the mid 30's hoping a short squeeze would hopefully push it to $50, we are about to hit $250.
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    I love when this picture gets posted to this thread, it means it's a good day. Just woke up a few minutes ago and wow, that got me out of bed.
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    I just love the "Elon with the champagne" meme.
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    Caption it with "Send Kass our regards."
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    MAR 14 220 CALL
    MAR 14 240 CALL
    MAR 14 260 CALL

    FluxCap is a happy human today.

    Now the only question is -- how close to $320 do we get in the time frame of these calls...
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    Just broke 250, haven't had this much fun since last May.
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    Some day we'll look back and $250 will seem like a bargain. I remember being amazed at $60, then $95, and $122, no way I thought!
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  • 1/1/2015
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    Yep, that happened... :)

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    I've got MAR 14 240 CALLs ... like you, I'm sitting here wondering, do I take this profit now, or wait for (a) the next round of the short squeeze, as margin calls go out tonight and/or (b) the actual gigafactory announcement?

    Aaarghh..
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  • 1/1/2015
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    And....I'm spent. Cashed out my weeklies at about $249. Nice to have a huge up week. Got quite a ways to go before break even from the Q3 debacle, but this week makes a substantial contribution to filling that crater.
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    I decided to cash out my 220's and 240's at around $248 and hang on to the $260's. In my brain I feel 80% sure I'll miss significant upside on those calls over the coming week, but in my gut I feel like taking some profits off the table on a day like today is the right thing to do.

    Either way this is an incredible day, congrats everyone.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    Just a Thought, Andrea James, Doughtery and Company, has always been ahead of the stock. Predicting prices now 3-5 months out, May said $90, July said $200, January said $320. based on that, Now it's a matter of when to buy Tesla, Will it drop below $200 soon? $225? Where is the next stop. I want back aboard, but I don't want to join if something like november happens.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    Wow, just pushed through $250. Where is the next batch of profit takers? There don't seem to be enough of them to supply the short sellers.
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    Also, interesting to note that the April options just came out yesterday. This means that those that bought April 1-18 that have been waiting for long-term holding can hedge their downside risk for without paying for extra time premium on put options.

    I know because I am in this camp, can't be alone. Looking at picking up 225 - 250 puts to sleep easier next 6 weeks.
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    254! Wow.
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    Damn! I started my selloff to soon! Then again, Im glad I never hedge :)
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    GO TSLA!!
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    Sold half our weeklies at 148. Good move, but...
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    Yeah, that $250 line looked like a bit of resistance, but then hello $255.

    From Adam Jonas this morning:

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    Yeah, I sold my weekly way too soon... deciding to take some profits on LEAPS too now since it's a big move and secondary is usually a drag on the price. We'll see how good my trade idea is...

    Not touching the common of course :)
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  • 1/1/2015
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    Cancelled the sell @ $250, sold 5 $260 Feb 28th covered calls instead. Little bit of income, and not the worst thing in the world to lock in the profits, if the call is executed. looking like $260 is possible as well for Friday, but there will likely be a pullback, there often is with TSLA.
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    I just woke up and decided to look at my iPad expecting a pullback from yesterday's gains...
    254?! WTF?! What an exciting morning. No caffeine needed! :biggrin:
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    Today = Wow...

    here is some perspective as well - about 1 year ago, Tesla was trading right around $34 a share. Today, the price increase as of 8:40am Pacific time is some $36. If you held on to your shares from 1 year ago, today alone would be over a 100% gain from the stock price a year ago. Wow...
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    Of course I sold my March 7th 190s at $249 right before it went over $250. I'm happy though. I'm up 6 months salary "just today" as of now and this is my best day in the stock market ever, even with my solar stocks being kind of "eh" today.

    I still have June $220, my core stock, and a couple LEAPS.
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    Tesla is up $40 dollars in one day! WOW
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    squeeze...., Sssquueeezze..., SSSQQQQUUUUEEEEEEEEEEZZZZEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!! :) :) :)
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  • 1/1/2015
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    Sell orders at $250, $260? Bah! I put one in for $750.

    (But only to make sure they couldn't lend my shares out to any desperate short. I'm long. Unless it executes at $750. I could live with that.)
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    Wow, quite the 2nd wind after it waddled around just below $250 for a while. I look at either side of puts and calls and I just have no idea what'll happen the rest of the week.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    Little stock market expression: bulls make money, bears make money, pigs get slaughtered.
    nothing's goes up forever, there are usually pullbacks along the way, we've seen it with TSLA many times.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    Put at least a little money aside to send a "thank you" fruit basket to all the high profile shorts.
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    Well I'm not expecting $750. (That's the fine print.) Again, as most here know, I'm long TSLA. My soft target is realization of the whole Gen III mass-market vision. I just wanted the shares locked up.
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    I awoke late this morning. Fill in the blanks and you can appreciate how I feel.

    Anyway, I also have been thinking along the lines of a number of you. As Citizen-T wrote,
    , I am trying to come up with a term for this new kind of capitalism. Only being slightly tongue in cheek, as it's really just someone combining being very smart with others not seeing the world in the same way. Regardless, some of us ought be able to come up with a clever tag.


    Oh, and one more thing:

    Lots of Kisses to all the Kasses.
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  • 1/1/2015
    guest
    PFF: Pessimism Fueled Financing.
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  • 1/1/2015
    guest
    I see the unicorn has grown wings.
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  • 1/1/2015
    guest
    "I don't know." That's some brilliant analysis right there. Do I actually find myself feeling a wee bit sorry for Kass and his clients now?

    I'll just leave this here:

    DougKassIDK.png
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    guest
    SDD: Short Driven Development
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  • 1/1/2015
    guest
    Nice one!
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  • 1/1/2015
    guest
    Gen III? That's peanuts. We're talking about disrupting the electric utility industry ;)
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  • 1/1/2015
    guest
    shouldn't he be saying 'between $50 and 96.50' ?
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  • 1/1/2015
    guest
    yup changing the Earth to Solar generated electric. And, don't forget, colonizing Mars...
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    guest
  • 1/1/2015
    guest
    Soft target. :) Things can change. That's several years out.
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  • 1/1/2015
    guest
    Oh the awesome, how it floweth!

    Next up: Version 6.0 software comes with optional 88mph time travel capability, version 7.0 has hover conversion. You saw it here first.
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  • 1/1/2015
    guest
    How appropriate given your name. Don't forget version 6.0 will also come with 1.21 gW peak motor power!
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    guest
    :biggrin:
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  • 1/1/2015
    guest
    So from what I have always heard, a short squeeze is not usually a one-day event, but rather takes several to work itself out, right? I have been trimming some of my shorter-term calls today, but I am trying to come to grips with how heavily I should be cashing in the calls that expire this and next week. Any feedback regarding the squeeze?
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    guest
    Test post - trying to create a signature, here.... ;)


    on edit: Oh, yeah! It will remain up for at least as this squeeze lasts. :biggrin:
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  • 1/1/2015
    guest
    Love the signature :D. As a note, remember that the "short squeeze" buyers will be one additional buying party in the supply/demand picture for the stock that determines price. It adds buying pressure but it's all in relation to other orders in the market. In my opinion probably a good chunk of todays 24mm traded so far are shorts clearing out, probably less the next few days but there may also be less sellers.
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  • 1/1/2015
    guest
    My goodness how the Tide has turned� It's nice to see the "good stuff" can hit in waves too. ;)

    - - - Updated - - -

    Oh yeah� the obligatory laugh at Kass. What a Maroon! :D :D :D
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