Chủ Nhật, 30 tháng 10, 2016

Firmware 7.1 part 32

  • 1/1/2015
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    I updated to 2.28.19 also and my autopilot seems like it goes way right now. almost like its learning to center itself in he lane again. It was working great but had to pull hard back into the lane three or four times this trip that I normally rarely ever would have to put much input.

    I also hate how I get these updated and the update log says the same things that have been updated already. For example this one said i would need to choose the direction of summon when enabling it with the stalk. I did that 2 or three iterations ago.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    Hmmm... Drove 6 hours today with 28.42 - no BT issues. Was streaming music off of my iPhone and never experienced a dropout.
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    Likewise with .28.19.

    I noticed too that Dolby mode sounds less tinny / bass-attenuated now. Not sure if it happened with this update but it's definitely a change since 2.22 when I first tuned my audio settings.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    Since installing 2.28.19, I noticed that when listening to ABC News, when I click the left up button, instead of skipping the current topic and moving to the next topic on ABC News, it changes from ABC news (Internet) to the first FM radio station. If I click it again, it skips to the next FM radio station. I will call Tesla support and report this issue.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    I'm starting to think that my car just does not like 2.28.19. More often than not it just will not change lanes with autopilot on. Obviously I'm using it on the same highway and I never had any problems before.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    Sit in the nearest service center parking lot for a few minutes - then try 28.42.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    Just keep in mind that in one of the firmware updates, this function was added for long-presses of the skip forward and rewind buttons. Perhaps you are holding down the button too long or your hardware buttons are wearing out and registering extended presses.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    I must have missed that in the release notes, oh wait.....:)
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  • 1/1/2015
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    This has been a problem for me on all of my builds (from http://ev-fw.com/):

    Version Build Date OTA
    7.1 2.20.60 18-June-2016 Wifi
    7.1 2.24.84 26-June-2016 Wifi
    7.1 2.24.102 01-July-2016 Wifi
    7.1 2.28.19 16-July-2016 Wifi
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  • 1/1/2015
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    I have never had a problem until this build. All others work flawlessly. As of now I guess I will just stick to TACC only until I get an update. Unfortunately I am 3 hrs away from the nearest SC so stopping by just for an update isn't gong to happen.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    So, fwiw, one of the barometers I like to use occasionally after release note-less updates, which is most of them, is the little stretch of road we have hereabouts called Portuguese Bend. Rarely the same road twice due to the unstable land beneath this two-lane curvy, hilly stretch, it's a nice drive when there isn't much traffic.

    It is also the kind of drive where you must be vigilant, because you never know when there's a new crack, gap, bump, or combination of all three. In the parlance of the day, it is an outlier.

    Enter the current DriverAssist features (aka AP). Was impressed with the degree to which they functioned. Still not at the level at which one could leave the driving to the car, but given the current technology and the challenging topography, it is easy to observe the improvements this past year+ for TACC and 9.5 months for Autosteer.

    Identifies and tracks motorcycles well.
    Doesn't need quite so much manual intervention - only 1-2 times through Portuguese Bend (southbound).

    Good stuff. Only thing is I'm not sure with which release this improved - the last two that I've received anyway have been brief, or at least fast.

    As always, stay within the boundaries of your abilities and risk tolerance; one size does not fit all.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    Ok, so now I know exactly where you are. I grew up in PVE and am quite familiar with Portuguese Bend. Probably one of the least auto-pilot suitable roads imaginable.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    Aww damnit. Why can't they stop fixing the things that are not broken? I use that exact feature on abc news, too.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    Ain't that the truth - hence the barometric proclivities. Would you believe the entire stretch was freshly paved the other day? Not just a patch here or there - the whole thing (more or less from flashing sign to flashing sign) - I almost didn't know how to act. The pavement is already starting to crack and ripple, of course.

    I've come to appreciate TACC just a little bit more every time there's a downhill stretch of any complexity (such as can be found, as you know, across the PV peninsula). One of the best safety-related features ever, and still largely unsung. I realize that TACC has been available for 7 or 8 or 10 years now, but not with nearly the polish and granular improvements in just the year and half Tesla has made it available.
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  • 1/1/2015
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  • 1/1/2015
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    "BICYCLES AND MOTORCYCLES AND CARS AND ...
    OH, WHAT THE HELL, EVERYBODY USE EXTREME CAUTION!"

    I haven't been back to the Peninsula in quite a few years now. Can you still see the decaying remnants of the old, old road downhill
    from the (current) road? That was always a bit unnerving.
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    It's been years since I've been there too.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    Ugh. Since 2.28.19 my nag reminder pops up in ASAP almost every minute. I travel on a straight, flat freeway to and from work and had flawless AP performance without constant nags on this road before the update.

    Is anyone else experiencing this?
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  • 1/1/2015
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    Not me but I keep at least one hand on the wheel at all times.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    I'm on 2.28.19. I went over 10 minutes on I-95 this morning without a nag.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    I just got 2.28.60 (I think that was it) as I was at a Service Center late last night (last 3 updates have been while at a Service Center charging my car). Notes just said minor bugfixes and improvements. One thing I noticed is that I had mileage added overnight! I parked the car with 254 and didn't plug in. When I woke up and checked my car this morning (presumably after losing 1-2 miles to vampire drain, I was expecting 252-253) it showed 259! Must have changed the algo or something.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    Or you battery is warmer now.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    That's good news! Hope it sticks and I am interested to hear what your next 90% and 100% numbers are.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    Doubt that's it, as I was supercharging when the update notification came on and then I immediately drove to my house and parked it, set the update to occur immediately and noting 254 range and not plugging it in. Came back this morning and showed 259.

    Weird thing when supercharging, though. It was about 90 out. It started off great, pulling around 290 Amps. After about 20 minutes (when SOC was like 30-40%) the amps dropped off to 74 and would not exceed 74 for the rest of the charging session. Took forever to charge the rest of the way! The other stalls were empty so it wasn't a case of a paired supercharger. Very odd. Did my car or the supercharger equipment malfunction?
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  • 1/1/2015
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    Which Supercharger were you at? There are reports of that type of behavior at on SpC site, and Tesla is aware of it and tells people to move to a different stall to get faster speed.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    Updated over the weekend to 2.28.42 (was on 2.28.19) and noticed that the Nav sub-screen in the IC now shows the warning to drive slowly to reach destination, which I had only seen on the Nav app of the large center display before:

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  • 1/1/2015
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    I've seen it on the IC display before this update. Having said that, it may only show up when you have the NAV up on the IC? I often (unless I'm in a congested city center) replace the NAV display with trip/energy table display.

    Mike
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  • 1/1/2015
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    Correct, it only shows up on the IC if Nav is one of the two side apps loaded on the IC. I've never seen it before although I usually keep Nav on the left side of the IC once I start a trip (it automatically shows up there and replaces the Media app).
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  • 1/1/2015
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    IMG_8862.JPG IMG_8859.JPG 2.28.60 today at 3:00pm
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  • 1/1/2015
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    Yay! "Minor fixes". lol. Mine updated today.
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  • 1/1/2015
    guest
    Just got 2.28.60 as well. First time ever the 17" screen didn't have a popup window announcing the new software was installed. I got a phone Tesla app notification when the install was complete, but nothing in the car.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    Got 2.28.60 last night. Haven't noticed anything different.

    I did get the 17'' popup announcing "minor fixes." Are you sure you didn't miss it? I did last time it updated. It popped up when I opened the back door to put my son in his car seat, but when I got him in, I closed the rear door, and the 17'' turned off between the time the back door closed and I opened the driver door. When it came back on after I got in the car the popup was gone.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    Received 2.28.60 last night. Same brief "Minor bug fixes and improvements" note.
    I had to reboot the main screen to get the browser to work.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    2.28.60 updated the following systems (from 2.28.19):

    CID (Center Display)
    IC (Instrument Cluster)
    Gateway
    Thermal Control
    Driver Assistance (Not Autopilot)
    Parking Brake

    Not that Autopilot was NOT updated, nor was BMS. Very minor update!
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  • 1/1/2015
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    Has anybody else been having problems with their chart port door? I'll come back to the car after work and find the charge door open, and even after manually closing it, the in-car display shows that it's still open.
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  • 1/1/2015
    guest
    coming from 2.20.45 to 2.28.60 I am finding quite big improvements to Autopilot, the steering seems improved and the car if not outright faster certainly seems more responsive. Very happy.

    Not sure if collectively the interim updates could account from this.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    2.28.60 on the model X introduces a new button that closes all doors from the touch screen.

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  • 1/1/2015
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    Do you have a list of the modules and what their understood function is?
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  • 1/1/2015
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    Interesting, but likely of more use if you posted in one of the MX forums.
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    Calendar selection has been there for a long time.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    I'm at the Supercharger at the West Palm Beach Store, and once again I got an update notification while charging here. That makes 5 out of 6 updates I got since I own the car that I received at the store while charging.
    I really don't think this is coincidence anymore. It might not be at every store location, but whenever i come here to my local store to charge at the attached supercharger I receive an update.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    Is there a Service Center nearby too?
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  • 1/1/2015
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    Yes, it's right next to the Supercharger.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    Makes sense then.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    It's geo-fenced to download the firmware at the Service Center.

    I'm told it's also geo-fenced now to automatically turn off Remote Access at the Service Center. I just assumed they manually turned it off but it makes sense. Anybody notice/confirm this?

    Mike
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  • 1/1/2015
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    My MX is currently at the Marin SC and it is responding to the TM App. So in this case Remote Access seems to be unaffected at this SC.
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  • 1/1/2015
    guest
    Dumb question but if it turns off Remote Access wouldn't that prevent it from downloading the update?
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  • 1/1/2015
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    No, as far as I know Remote Access only affects your ability to control the car with the App. Tesla still has access.

    Mike
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    Interesting, thanks for checking.

    Mike
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  • 1/1/2015
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    3 days and a hundred songs later, I'm officially calling it as non-placebo: Something about Dolby mode on UHFS improved in the 2.28 update (vs 2.26.103). Quality wise, turning on Dolby no longer results in an extremely tinny response (heavy on treble and virtually no subwoofer usage). It's now much more balanced, and for a lot of pop music, the exaggerated stereo width actually produces a pleasing effect, which is the intended purpose of surround effect modes.


    If you swore off Dolby mode before 2.28, I'd strongly recommend trying it again in this update. Note that the bass level is still a bit worse with Dolby mode than without, so if you really love the rumble, surround mode is probably not for you.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    That is indeed very interesting! If you're right (which I assume here), wouldn't that mean that Tesla is finally taking on improvements in the Mediaplayer area? Yay!!
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  • 1/1/2015
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    Hi Ingineer,

    could you explain how an when the "tiles" are updated? Is that the information that mobileye calls "roadbook"?
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  • 1/1/2015
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    Thanks! As a classical music listener I turned D off immediately... I paid for the subwoofer and agree, D made it none existent. Now I'll give it another try!
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  • 1/1/2015
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    I am able to SuperCharge, get updates, AND access my car through the app simultaneously. Confirmed 3 times now. Have gotten my last 3 updates prompted this way and was able to turn on my A/C through the app while SuperCharging and connected to the SC's wifi
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  • 1/1/2015
    guest
    Another new minor release. 2.28.75
    No obvious changes.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    I got my last update after supercharging at the factory. No service center nearby (it's way down at the other end of the property). It's right next to the showroom though. So, no, it's definitely triggering an update, but it's not as simple as being only at service centers.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    Just like the little square image tiles on Google maps, the Autopilot also has tiles that are fetched from a server. Each tile covers a certain fixed geographic area, and they contain information that the AutoPilot uses for assisting it's decision making. Just like the map tiles, a certain amount of them are cached on the CID's SSD so the ones around your daily routes don't need to be downloaded over and over.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    Are you able to see which areas have tiles for AP? I'm interested specifically of Finland, does AP have tiles here?

    I would guess that at first there are no AP tiles, only after learning algorithm has first created them?
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  • 1/1/2015
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    I've reported and we've discussed elsewhere the many challenges that exist with Infotainment, as well as how my MS seems to ocassionally enter deep sleep way to fast when parked for just a few minutes, causing the IC and/or CID to effectively auto-reboot upon entering my MS.

    Since moving to 2.28.19 just 2 weeks ago, none of that appears to have changed, but I've now had at least 3 occurrences where Media Player for some reason goes back through its long (10-15min) USB stick scan process, even though the CID was not rebooted and I've not removed my USB stick. I simply find upon entering my MS the scan is sometimes underway for no good reason, and unlike what happens other times, MS remembers which track it was previously playing and is positioned there when the process completes. It's a new, very odd annoyance. (...and yes, I know all the little tricks about reducing time to scan the stick (I have 6K tracks), as well as keeping Nav history to a minimum, doing a long reboot of the CID, etc., etc., etc.)

    Any others encountering what seems like an errant USB scan process in recent firmware drops? I would hate being the only one at the party. ;)
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  • 1/1/2015
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    Do we know how much priority the data from the tiles has over data from the camera, such as detected lane markings? Hopefully the tile data is not used unless the camera isn't detecting anything directly.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    Besides autopilot being worse and not seeing other lanes to allow me to change into them 2.28.19 has also seemed to have broken my daytime running lights. They only seem to turn on now when I manually select the parking lights. Its too bad we can't request updates. Stopping by the service center 3 hrs away isn't really an option.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    You still can. A number of people here have had success by just calling their Service Center, and a SC Advisor can then have an update scheduled to be sent over-the-air to your MS -- it may take 24 hrs or so for them to make it happen. There is also the Tesla #800 that any owner can call 7x24 for technical support (IDK why so many owners seem to forget about that more immediate option and sometimes post here when a response can take even longer), but personally, I'd try your SC for likely the most direct way to accomplish what you're after. It's a phone call away. Good luck.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    I just received 2.28.75. I got notification within an hour of leaving the Sunnyvale Service Center, but I never connected to their wifi which the car could not find (the point of the trip was to test the update theory; I was there about 10 minutes).
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  • 1/1/2015
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    Don't forget to enter it on the firmware tracker
    ev-fw.com
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  • 1/1/2015
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    Did that before posting ;)
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  • 1/1/2015
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    release_note.jpg

    Sat for 20 minutes at a nearby SvC to get 2.28.75.

    2.28.75 has release notes. Well, one release note - and it says, drumroll please...

    "This release contains minor fixes and improvements."

    WOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!

    A profound thank you to whomever 'twas who took the time to do that.

    Results and best practices prevail once again over the dark and evil minions of FUD - just another reason why Tesla will continue to lead the entire automotive industry. Next up, energy, space, and the saving of civilization itself from... well, from itself, really.

    Yes, going to ev-fw.com now...
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  • 1/1/2015
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    Eh? What's to dislike about that? Some people - sheesh.

    Having that one line is actually quite helpful - especially when compared to having no release notes at all and/or just a copy of the release notes from six releases before.

    I say again, well done Tesla.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    I think part of the issue is that the way the release notes are presented it doesn't take into account the version delta from the version you came from. It only has the release notes that are saved in the bundle for the version you're running. They'll need to make it a little smarter to be able to actually show changes across multiple versions.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    Easy fix, don't show just the release notes for this one version, show the full history. Tons of software does it this way, and is no more work then what they do now. Add the new release notes to the top of the file, don't remove the old ones. Done.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    Just another data point regarding the service center proximity for software updates. Was traveling yesterday and stopped at the Decatur, GA supercharger, which is next to the store/service center. Connected to wifi automatically the software update notification popped up a short time later, while still supercharging.

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    I have gotten updates 3 times now after stopping in West Palm SC (SC and Store co-located), I expect its not coincidental.
    Now since 2.28.75 I have noticed that when I top a bridge near my home that has a rather pronounced crown, the "Hold Steering Wheel" prompt no longer goes off. Prior to it, it was 100% of the time, now 4 times and zero occurances. Maybe.....?:rolleyes:
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  • 1/1/2015
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    I'm going off the 'does it-or doesn't it' board for $100 Jack.......

    Anyone experiencing hyper-sensitive side & front sensors of late? Since CA motorcycle drivers are allowed to stripe-ride, there is lots of lane splitting action especially during commuter hours. But lately my dash looks like a disco with the side and corner lights flashing yellow, orange and red along with heart stopping warning sounds as they weave by. Jacked up sensors or maybe its just the display accuracy has been improved? Damn I worry about those motorcyclists so I've suspended using my AP during the heavy commute hours because of them and all the dash commotion. Today was so peaceful.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    I noted what I considered an increased sensitivity back with 2.17.37 on April 28 (post #2381 in this all-too-long thread ;)). I've not noticed any further increase in that sensitivity up through my present 2.28.19, but still believe it's more than I had before that April update. (...and while the cyclists will likely jump on me/us, I agree with you it startles me every time one passes me when I have another vehicle riding alongside in close proximity -- especially when the cycle comes out of nowhere at much more rapid speed.)
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  • 1/1/2015
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    Yes, I mentioned when 2.28.19 first came out that I felt they had tweaked the front and side sensors (not AP but the sensors themselves) because a) the car seemed to have a hard time finding the center of the lane and b) the increased flashing sensor displays. After driving it for a couple of days the car settled down on the lane bouncing but I still see the sensitive colorful light display. It doesn't bother me at all and I have no evidence other than you and one other person who also mentioned it.

    Edit: I guess the other person was @BertL
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  • 1/1/2015
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    I too am still on 2.28.19 and I get concerned the car will jerk away while on AP. Then like you, I need to worry the guy on the right is in his lane and not mine. Thus I've gone back to my own control and am far less worried about over correction. Lane splitting has got to be a great challenge for Tesla. higher speed + smaller scale + unpredictable movement
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    I guess I am so concerned about one of these cyclists going down that I find that the lights and sound magnify the daily danger and I am the one jacked up! It bothered me less without being reminded of the frequency and degree of proximity.....in other words, ignorance is bliss.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    The other day I experimented using AP (2.28.19) on an interstate in a very heavy rain, both hands solidly on the wheel. AP started to weave from side to side within the lane in a serpentine fashion. I disengaged AP because I didn't want to scare other nearby drivers in these poor conditions. The last time I tried in a similar downpour was way back in version 7.0, and the car tracked perfectly straight. Thus I can't peg this behavior on 2.28.19 specifically.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    Yeah, people here debate to what degree AP changes and/or AP Tiles make the difference some of us perceive with our MS searching from side-to-side more than perhaps AP once did. That is at least the case for me much of the time... e.g. on a 4-lane 45mph road (with clearly marked double center line and bicycle lane line on the right) I frequent around my home, since about the time 2.28.19 came out, my MS sways just enough side-to-side when on AP especially on its somewhat curvy road that it makes me feel like my MS is drunk -- and it probably looks that way to anyone observing me; On a 55mph 4-lane surface street which has a concrete divider down the middle with occasional plants but low pavers on much of it's width, my MS also tends to pull left much closer to that hard divider than I would ever be driving on my own. Both situations make me very uneasy, and it's why I don't use AP on those roads as much as I used to even though I drive them several times each week. I do "try it out" again after each new firmware update, just in case there is an improvement, but have not found any from my POV in a while.

    I was a bit astonished with the graphic one of Tesla's Execs released after the accident a few weeks ago showing how much more accurate AP is keeping to the center of the lane than real drivers are -- that may be my experience on the wide open road that perhaps has more miles traveled by the aggregate fleet, but it isn't with the surface examples I cited, or when I have big rigs to my immediate left or right on the freeway, when it seems like my MS tracks too close to it than I want to be (let alone if a motorcycle were to come between as has happened at least once -- freaking me out.) It's all perception how AP is working for each of us, but that's mine FWIW which just reinforces AP is Beta Software and will likely always be so on my AP V1 MS.

    Fortunately for us, Tesla and it's designers are here in CA where the split lane law is in effect, so we can hope it remains a front-and-center consideration even though it's not something that is legal everywhere AP is.
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    Today was weird. Last night I applied 2.28.60 and never got the notification the update was complete. I walk up to the car and it doesn't power up and start running the a/c like normal. I get in the car and it takes an extended period of time for the instrument cluster to come on, but the 17" never does. No a/c, the contactors close a few seconds later, no music. I hit the brake and the lights turn on (I was still in the garage), but then after two seconds that car goes back to "Car off". Repeat, same result. All the while the 17" doesn't boot up. I get up, walk away, come back 30 seconds later and try again. This time the car stays "on", but otherwise no change. I try rebooting and finally the 17" comes to live and my phone gets a notification that the software update was complete. Weird.
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    That is weird. Is it possible that the installation was interrupted for some reason and was actually installing while you trouble shooting?
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    I was in the car about 10+ hours after installation started. Maybe, but when I asked Tesla, they said...
    So I'm just not going to worry about it unless I see any other weird behavior.
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    You realize that every cruise control system ever made, including autopilot, specifically days not to use it in those conditions right?

    I think that chart needs to be taken with a heavy gain of salt, I'm pretty sure it was measured by the car, not a neutral third party. As such, if the car thinks it's centred in the lane, that's all that matters, not the actual position of the vehicle.
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    Of course! I want to extract all the entertainment value I can out of this toy -- er, I mean driver assistance system -- so I try controlled tests under conditions that I believe are marginal for the system. The giveaway is that I had both hands solidly on the wheel. I would never do that if conditions were such that the system should handle them easily.;)
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  • 1/1/2015
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    Another data point: Haven't been given an update since 2.28.19. Stopped by a pharmacy near the service center today for 10 minutes. Did not connect to wifi, and an hour later, saw an update notification. Applied in 17 minutes.


    EDIT: It's 2.28.75. Updated EV-FW
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    I've used autopilot fairly recently (2.28.19) in very heavy rain (under a thunderstorm) at about 60 mph (any faster and I wouldn't have been able to see very well). No cars within about 100 feet of me, and both hands firmly on the wheel.

    When I tried it, I was actually amazed. It drove almost as well as it normally does.
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    Same experience! I think i can only see 15 ft in front of me... but the autopilot drove like it was normal..

    The radar clearly picked out all the cars and some how still manage see the lanes.. Whats interesting is though, once i disengage the autopilot, it won't allow me to turn it back on.. but while it was on.. i got to say, it can see than i could.
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    Yes, the threshold to activate autopilot is much more stringent than the threshold to maintain it (prevents lots of on-off switching by using hysteresis).
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    Last year I was driving West on I-10, East of Houston, in a Very Heavy thunderstorm. I was only able to drive about 40 mph because I could not see the road very well. I got a message that the Lane Departure Warning was disabled. I can only assume that the sensors were receiving too much input and they were disabled. When it stopped raining as hard they started working again.
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    I must have really been pushing the limits of conditions it could handle. It was very heavy rain. I was in the left lane where traffic was still going 70 (70 limit) while some right lane cars had emergency flashers on and one or two had pulled over.
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  • 1/1/2015
    guest
    I guess it's thunderstorm season! I, too, had the opportunity to experiment with AP in a very heavy storm last weekend. There wasn't much traffic on the road, but everyone was slowed down to 35-45 and many cars were pulled off to the side. I was amazed how well AP functioned under these conditions. I was also very impressed by how the car itself handled - like a tank, plowing straight through incredibly heavy water and rain. It's a 70D so imagine the all-wheel drive was a factor. Anyway, it worked great for me, though I did not leave AP on for very long and would not rely on it in those conditions.
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  • 1/1/2015
    guest
    I have found AP to struggle in heavy rain at night, particularly when there are a good amount of street lights. The glare/reflection from the wet white lines seems to upset TUS.
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  • 1/1/2015
    guest
    My AP seems to drive better at night than during the day....
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  • 1/1/2015
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    Just went to tesla sales/svc center. Scheduled an annual check up and took the family to check out the model x. While we were looking, got an update notification! You guys were right!
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  • 1/1/2015
    guest
    Yes, you do not have to connect to Tesla WiFi to trigger the update. You just have to enter one of these Tesla Facilities:

    1250 Elko Drive
    Aarhus-Viborgvej
    Aix en Provence-Chemin des Piboules
    Americana Manhasset - Temp
    Amsterdam-PC Hooftstraat
    Amsterdam-Zuid-Oost
    Antwerp-Aartselaar
    APAC-CN-Shanghai-Grand Gateway
    Arnhem-Duiven
    Atlanta-Decatur
    Austin-Burnet Expansion
    Austin-Burnet Road
    Austin-The Domain
    Avalon-Alpharetta
    Basel-Möhlin
    Basel-St. Alban
    Bei Gang CIQ Inspection Site
    Beijing Huamao
    Beijing-Parkview Green
    Beijing Universal Business Park (UBP)
    Beijing-Yizhuang
    Bellevue-16th Street
    Bellevue-20th Street
    Bellevue-Bellevue Square
    Bergen-Kokstad
    Bergen-Minde
    Berlin-Kurfürstendamm
    Berlin-Schönefeld
    Bethesda-Montgomery Mall
    Birmingham-Digbeth
    Boca Raton-Town Center at Boca Raton
    Bordeaux Mérignac
    Boston-Watertown
    Brea-Brea Mall
    Bristol-Cribbs Causeway
    Broadway Plaza Relocation
    Brooklyn-Van Brunt Street
    Brumunddal-Strandvegen
    Bruxelles-Toison d'Or
    Bruxelles-Zaventem
    Buena Park Service Plus
    Burbank
    Burlingame
    Calgary-Chinook Centre
    Canoga Park-Topanga
    Century City Temp
    Cham-Lorzenpark
    Charlotte-Matthews
    Chengdu-Gaoxin
    Chengdu - Taikoo Li
    Chicago-Highland Park
    Chicago-Villa Park
    Chicago-West Grand Avenue
    Cincinnati Blue Ash Service Plus
    Cleveland-Lyndhurst
    Columbus-Morse Road
    Corte Madera-The Village at Corte Madera
    Costa Mesa Sales & Delivery
    Costa Mesa Service
    Costa Mesa Service Expansion
    County Club Plaza
    Dallas-Cedar Springs Road
    Dania Beach
    Dedham
    Den Haag-Forepark
    Denver-Evans Avenue
    Derby Street Shoppes
    Devon Service Plus
    Drammen
    Drammen-C.O. Lundsgt
    Drammen Dock
    Dublin-Amador Plaza
    Düsseldorf-Bonner Straße
    Dusseldorf-Konigsallee
    Easton Town Center
    Edinburgh-Multrees Walk
    Eindhoven
    EU-CH-Bern-Zentweg
    EU-UK-Bristol-Lysander Road
    Frankfurt-Grosse Bockenheimer Strasse
    Frankfurt-Hanauer Landstraße
    Fremont
    Fremont-Factory Service
    Geneva-Cours de Rive
    Geneva-Meyrin
    Ghent-Latem
    Gothenburg-Aminogatan
    Gothenburg-Sodra Hamngatan
    Graz-Maggstraße
    Guangzhou-Canton Place
    Hamburg-Essener Straße
    Hamburg-Große Bleichen
    Hangzhou-Binjiang
    Hangzhou-West Lake
    Helsinki-Vantaa
    Hong Kong-Castle Peak Road
    Hong Kong-QRE Plaza
    Hong Kong - The Pulse
    Hong Kong-TML Tower
    Houston-Houston Galleria
    Houston-North
    Houston-Westchase
    Indianapolis-The Fashion Mall at Keystone
    Kansas City-Manchester
    Kent-Bluewater Shopping Centre
    King of Prussia-King of Prussia Mall
    København-Kastrup
    Køpenhavn-Bredgade
    Kristiansand-Sørlandsparken
    Las Vegas
    Leeds-Queen Victoria
    Linz-Bäckerfeldstraße
    London-Brent Cross
    London-Gatwick
    London-Oxford Street
    London-West Drayton
    London-Westfield London
    Lone Tree-Park Meadows
    Long Island City-Queens -Battery Repair
    Long Island-Syosset
    Los Angeles-Centinela
    Los Angeles-Torrance
    Los Angeles-Van Nuys
    Luxembourg-Route de Thionville
    Lyon-Avenue de Saxe
    Malmo-Emporia
    Manchester-Knutsford
    Manchester-South
    Manhattan-West 25th Street
    Marietta
    Melbourne-Richmond
    Miami-Dadeland
    Milano-Via Cerva
    Milano-Via Forlanini
    Milford
    Minneapolis-Eden Prairie
    Mission Viejo-Shops At Mission Viejo
    Monterey-Seaside
    Montreal-Ferrier
    Müchen-Blumenstraße
    München-Feldkirchen
    Nashville-Brentwood
    Natick-Natick Mall
    Newport Beach-Fashion Island
    Nuremberg-Karolinenstrasse
    Oak Brook-Oakbrook Center
    Orlando-Eatonville
    Osaka-Shinsaibashi
    Oslo-Alnabru (1)
    Oslo-Baerum
    Oslo-North
    Oslo-Skøyen (2)
    Palm Springs-Cathedral City
    Palo Alto
    Palo Alto HQ
    Palo Alto-Stanford Shopping Center
    Paramus-Garden State Plaza
    Paramus-Route 17
    Parc Central
    Paris-Chambourcy
    Paris Ouest
    Paris-Parly 2
    Pasadena-Colorado Blvd
    Portland-SW 72nd Avenue
    Portland-Tigard
    Portland-Washington Square
    Raleigh Sales & Delivery
    Raleigh-Service
    Reno-Gigafactory Service Center
    Robson Street-Vancouver BC
    Rockville
    Ross Park Mall
    Rotterdam-Driemanssteeweg
    Sacramento-Rocklin
    Salt Lake City-1038 South 300 West
    San Diego-Fashion Valley
    San Diego-Miramar
    San Diego-UTC
    San Jose-Santana Row
    San Rafael
    San Rafael Expansion
    Santa Barbara-Hitchcock Way
    Santa Monica-3rd Street Promenade
    Sarasota-University Town Center
    Scottsdale-Fashion Square
    Scottsdale-Hayden Road
    Seattle-SoDo
    Seattle-Westlake
    Shanghai-Hongqiao
    Shanghai-Jinqiao
    Shanghai-Xintiandi
    Shenzhen-Longhua
    Shenzhen-O'Plaza
    Shi-Jing Shun CIQ
    Short Hills-Short Hills Mall
    Skødje-Alesund
    Skokie-Old Orchard Mall
    Solihull-Touchwood
    South Salt Lake City-S. State Street
    Springfield Township
    Stavanger-Forus
    St. Johns Town Center Retail
    St. Louis-University City
    Stockholm-Kanalvägen
    Stockholm-Mall of Scandinavia
    Stockholm-Täby Centrum
    Stuttgart-Motorstrasse
    Sunnyvale
    Sydney-Herbert St
    Tampa
    Tampa-International Plaza
    The Gardens on El Paseo
    Tian Bao CIQ Inspection Site
    Tilburg-Atlasstraat
    Tilburg Factory
    Tokyo-Minami Aoyama
    Toronto-Lawrence Avenue
    Toronto - Mississauga Temp Relo
    Toronto-Yorkdale Shopping Centre
    Tromso-Alkeveien
    Trondheim Service
    Tysons Corner-Tyco Road
    Vancouver-Powell Street
    Vancouver-West 4th Avenue
    Van Nuys Expansion
    Waikele-Waipahu
    Washington DC-K Street
    Westchester-Mt. Kisco
    West Los Angeles-Santa Monica Blvd.
    West Palm Beach
    White Plains-The Westchester
    Wien Tech Park Vienna
    Winterthur
    Xi'an-Gaoxin
    Yokohama
    Zürich-Pelikanstrasse
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  • 1/1/2015
    guest
    Also, You will not get an update when entering into a facility every time. You have to have one available for your VIN, and there's some unknown aging parameter that prevents one from being sent if you have already had one recently.
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  • 1/1/2015
    guest
    You must have been chuckling while reading our theories/experiments over the past several months.
    �
  • 1/1/2015
    guest
    Not sure what that aging parameter might be. I've gotten two in one day.
    �
  • 1/1/2015
    guest
    I'm pretty old so I should get one every day. :)
    �
  • 1/1/2015
    guest
    Agreed, the last two times at my SC, the download of firmware "failed" as they were about 4 days apart.
    �
  • 1/1/2015
    guest
    Prior to my fairly recent update, I had been to the Rocklin SC twice to try and trigger an update (I think it was maybe two months since last update). Does it have to connect to the Tesla Service AP? I never saw it in the list of available AP only Tesla Guest. Does it connect automatically or does it require a Tesla person to enter in the password at least once for that to happen?
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  • 1/1/2015
    guest
    Aging will do that, I hear. Good thing I'm still mentally in junior high school.

    [?IMG]
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  • 1/1/2015
    guest
    For the record regarding failed software updates and SvC proximity updates: one can at least sometimes fix that without help:

    Details: 10 days ago I installed a spontaneous software update (2.28.60). The following day I got a warning message to contact service regarding a needed software update (forget the exact wording). Ignored it for the trip to Reno for TMC Connect and GF Party. After talking to owner support on Sunday, trying a recommended deep reboot without success and not receiving a promised call from my local service center for 2 days, I just parked at the Sunnyvale service center, set a timer for 10 min and left for home. Right after arriving at home (~15 min) I got a notification about a software update being available. Installed 2.28.75 and it resolved the error message.
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  • 1/1/2015
    guest
    I'll say it a 3rd time, it has nothing to do with the WiFi connection. It's a Geofence. The car has the coordinates of all the Tesla facilities I listed in my previous posts, and if you get within range of that location, the car sends a message to the mothership and if they decide you are ready for an update, one is created for your car (a patch). This patch is relatively small as it only contains the differences from the new version from your existing version. (Usually well under 100 megs). The patch usually starts downloading within a few minutes, and will download over cellular or WiFi, and if the connection is lost or changed, it will resume where it left off. The download usually only takes a few minutes even on 3G. Once the patch is downloaded it's decoded and verified. This process takes the longest and will usually be evident as the CID will be laggy and slow to respond, as there are significant computing resources needed. Do not reboot your CID if it gets laggy during this process our you risk killing your update.

    One the update passes verification, that's when you'll get the notification and Alarm Clock icon.

    I do not yet know how the mothership decides when you are eligible for an update, but it's clear to me that it's very rare to keep getting them one after another even if you regularly visit a Tesla facility. There are enough exceptions to keep one guessing. Maybe that's by design.

    I would not advise anyone to bother driving to a Tesla facility to get "the latest". Maybe once 8.0 is released and there are major changes, but otherwise you are wasting your time. Most of the stuff released are just small bug fixes. It's very unlikely you'll get any cool new must-have features to make it worth your time. Relax, Enjoy your amazing Tesla!
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  • 1/1/2015
    guest
    2.28.75 updated the following systems (from 2.28.60):

    CID (Center Display)
    IC (Instrument Cluster)
    Gateway
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  • 1/1/2015
    guest
    Interesting approach. So merely passing through a geofenced area (however briefly) is all it takes?

    How often does the car ping the mothership update server if it is simply parked well beyond these locations?
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  • 1/1/2015
    guest
    I tried this geofence trick at the Portland Or service station but didn't work for me. I think some service stations don't have the wireless geofence
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  • 1/1/2015
    guest
    Yes, you only need enter the geofence momentarily, and as I said, it will not always work if your car isn't "due" for an update.

    Attached is the full list of geofence coordinates for those curious.
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  • 1/1/2015
    guest
    Very cool! Thanks for the info. Now does anyone have enough free time and magical abilities to be able to make a more usable map of these locations?
    �
  • 1/1/2015
    guest
    Interesting...thanks for sharing this!

    Is that JSON object bundled as a part of a firmware load or is it updated independently (like the list of Superchargers)?

    Any idea what the "type" field is used for? (I see three legal values: "retail", "service", and "facility", and can guess what they mean, but I'm curious as to what would make use of the values.)

    Bruce.
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  • 1/1/2015
    guest
    Yes, all the JSON files are updated separately of software, just like the SuperCharger list. When you enter one of the Geofences, the car sends an alert to the mothership with the facility ID code, and then when you leave, it sends another. I do not know exactly what the type field is used for.
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  • 1/1/2015
    guest
    Since 2.28.75 (though could have come in an earlier update and I didn't notice) AP is handling cars merging in to the lane in front of me much better. No longer hitting the brakes but now gradually backing off to attain appropriate follow distance. Very much appreciated.
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  • 1/1/2015
    guest
    Doesn't work in Costa Mesa. I drove through the front lot twice. I'm on 2.26.150 currently.
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  • 1/1/2015
    guest
    I am picking mine up from the service center today. I will let you know if they did an update.
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  • 1/1/2015
    guest
    Got 2.28.42 few weeks ago had a weird experience with this update... My steering wheel control has reversed. Specifically when I pull the steering wheel adjuster to move the wheel towards me it moves away from me, when I push it to move the wheel away it moves towards me. I've got a service center appointment in a few weeks for them to look at it though I'm hoping the car will get another update and resolve the issue... Another weird think I've noticed is my car now offers me spoiler settings like it was a model x...
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  • 1/1/2015
    guest
    Have you checked Tesla Tracker to see if that firmware was for an MX?
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  • 1/1/2015
    guest
    image.jpeg Looks like mostly model s and only 1 model x got this firmware... Here's the picture from my model s P90DL refresh just over a month old now. Just realized its offering me towing mode as well lol
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  • 1/1/2015
    guest
    That's cool but you're going to have to wave goodbye to it. :)
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  • 1/1/2015
    guest
    Have your doors sprouted wings yet?
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