Thứ Năm, 27 tháng 10, 2016

Social Chat - Short Term TSLA Movements part 8

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    Still going?
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    yep join us.
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    Do I need an invite?
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    Just click to request an invite and I can send one. 3 people chatting now.
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    Hangout must not like iPad, I grabbed the google+ app. Still no way to request.
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    Did I miss it?
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    Nope we are still chatting as of 1145pm
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    Trying to join

    - - - Updated - - -

    I posted my gmail on G+, just waiting to join.
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    Okay, cool.
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    Thanks to everyone who participated tonight in our first google hangout. We had about 6 people join and talked about the NHTSA investigation, current stock price, risks ahead, gigafactory, ZEV credits, China demand, KNDI, and other topics. Hope we can do it again.
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    How about a brief summary on the points touched and what conclusions you guys drew? ;)
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    Missed the hangout but looking forward to the next one. On another investment note, do you guys think there may be some pure play companies that will benefit from the giga factory? The factory will cost billions and the lithium and other raw materials that make up the battery will be needed in large quantities. Elon said lithium % in battery is low but there were other metals involved. Has anyone done any research on who produces those raw materials? Just a thought.
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    Anyone selling any calls into the runup? I'm looking at selling the Jan 31 190 call for $2 (current bid ask is 1.6/1.71).
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    I'm a bit bored tonight and so I'd like to host another Google hangout. This will be a like a meet and greet online. I'd love to meet some of you face-to-face and also discuss Tesla and other investment opportunities.

    The google hangout will be tonight at 8pm PST and is limited to 10 people. It will not be broadcasted publicly (it will be private to those who are able to join) for privacy reasons.

    In order to join:
    1. go to this page, TMC hangout - Google+
    2. Add me to one of your circles and then in the "say something" field post a comment saying, "Please send invite." This allows me to invite you as a participant. (Note: since this hangout will be private, there will no viewing the hangout and will only be participants.)

    *I'm still figuring out google hangouts, so if you have difficulty joining, just make sure to add me to a circle of yours and then request an invite on the page.

    The agenda of the meet and greet will be as follows:
    7:50pm-8:00pm - complete invite process
    8:00-8:10pm - introduce each other and usernames
    8:10-8:40pm - TSLA discussion (gigafactory, Q4 ER, recent TSLA price action, etc)
    8:40-9:00pm - other investment opportunities discussion
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    wouldn't mind joining in on one of these at some point, but I don't feel I have much technical to offer. Is this a video chat?
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    Yep it's a video chat (with up to 10 participants). It will be private to the participants.
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    Very nice. Good luck. If you get the okay from everyone participating, please post the conclusions and insights that you gain from this for those who will not be participating. That would be much appreciated.
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    Ok thanks. I'm not video enabled on my old laptop, only computer. Guess I could steal my daughters Ipad!
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    We'll get started at around 8pm for those still wanting to join.
    Btw, just found out that iPad works with google hangouts.
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    I stumbled across this late. Maybe next time.
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    So, I'm looking at selling short term (probably Feb 7th) either TSLA puts or calls and for the first time in a while and I have absolutely no leaning on which makes more sense :). May not sell anything shorter term at this point.

    For earnings, I'd guess big movement one way or another without much likelihood of a non-event. Maybe play a strangle/straddle there?
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    Your welcome, found that out myself tonight as well (as I installed the app just before I joined) :)
    Interesting meeting, we should definitely ask Curt Rentz if he'd like to do one as well, another interesting person would be "Realist" from Germany, since he's "switched" sides.
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    Let me know what you do, then I'll know when the stock takes off (the day it will hurt you most, for buying calls that's the day after expiry) ;) Sorry, couldn't resist and I do feel for you on those solar plays that happened. With regard to selling calls/puts I sold Jan 31st 157.5 put when Tesla was around 160 and sold Jan 31st 180 calls when Tesla hit $172 last week. The calls were against the 157.5 call I had and a march 180 call. Basically I was assuming that while Tesla might go up a tick more it's likely to consolidate in the 170's and I'd be able to get the time value from those calls. Then again if it takes off far above 180, then all my other LEAPs etc will catch the upside nicely ;)
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    wow ckessel is our very own contrarian indicator.
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    I was looking at a short strangle, but I see too much risk: when TSLA moves, it tends to move big. But I think that odds of there being much news soon are low, so I don't want to pay the premium to buy a long strangle.
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    It has, sadly, been true. Granted, I've set a low bar to clear, but I'd like to think I'm getting better.

    FWIW, I meant buying the straddle for ER, not selling, so betting the stock goes somewhere big after the ER. That probably wasn't clear because in the paragraph before I was talking of selling options in the short term going up to the ER. The problem with buying any option before ER though is the crazy premium.

    I switched thoughts when I switched paragraphs, but didn't say that :)
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    I just opened my browser after getting to work and there's a crazy spike right now.
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    You don't know if it's a spike until you see it come down on the other side. :)

    Interesting to see if we break $180. I suspect there'll be some resistance at that level.
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    more like a bounce off LOD (IMO). Granted, a very rapid bounce to HOD
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    There are 26,522 open, out-of-the-money puts that expire on Friday. That's 2.65 million shares that are, in effect, sold short and coming due soon. Ouch.
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    I can't believe we are tapping on the 180 door already. Ooo..
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    Volume is picking up as we hit 180. What do you think will happen if we break through it? Only .05 to go.
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    seems like the profit takers would be having a harder time triggering a sell off to buy back in on, it's just so bullish right now that selling on these highs is too risky. instead of dipping on the sell offs it flattens out and chargers forward. it's buy and hold for me but I'm so tempted to cash out some for some projects, but I just don't want to miss out if this is pent up demand unleashing, since it's been so long since a bad news event. we haven't seen this kind of upward lift with so little dipping in a while!
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    I had told myself I'd start getting defensive if we hit $180. Wasn't at the computer when that happened but ended up buying some puts around $178.60. I was thinking about selling calls but decided buying puts was better for me. Would rather lose all the money from the puts rather than limit my upside by selling calls. I don't think we'll go down too far mainly b/c shorts will be providing support. But upside could still be big with news (NHTSA, giga-factory, etc). Don't know how long I'll want to hold onto these puts though. It's hard to be "short" :)
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    I'm going to be a "naked long" for a while yet. I realize that we are in perilously high territory now; we haven't closed this high since mid-October. But I continue to see good news that Tesla can release soon, the shorts are bleeding all over the floor, as we've got weekly, monthly, quarterly, and annual options expiring on Friday. I may kick myself, as I did for not selling at $190, but I'm in for a while yet.
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    This may be the right thing to do. I'm just expecting (and hoping) for a slight pull back to the mid to low 170's before we continue up.
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    Didn't we see all those options expire last week? This week's are weeklies only.
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    What information do people think is priced into the stock right now?

    I think the great earnings for Q4 are mostly priced in at this point, barring any surprises that Elon and company might be keeping secret.

    My guess for not priced in: NHTSA report re f***s, Giga-factory specifics. The NHTSA matter deals with a fear related issue which is hard to dispel, and I think most people are unsure of how exactly Tesla will get the batteries it needs for G3/Model E.
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    I agree with you on these generally, plus 35k projection for 2014 priced in; A 40k number not priced in
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    Yes, this is my understanding too.
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    As far as I'm concerned, this price level is where we should have been for the last 3 months. All the 120-130 stuff was a bargain, an artificially low price. Which is why I haven't celebrated this move up as much as I could have, since it doesn't feel like I'm making money, just recovering it. Blew the chance of getting weeklies, even though I was looking at them at the time, and pretty much the right strike prices too.

    Of course, I made up for that by buying NFLX 380 weeklies at the end of the day today. If it holds this AH price then I'll have made an almost-perfect trade there :) Unfortunately the premiums mean it's nowhere near as much as TSLA's move last week was worth for weekly options, but whatever, still feels good to make the right pick for the right reasons and time the purchase almost-perfectly, even if it was just a few contracts.

    As far as what's priced in to TSLA, I think the delivery update was simply to remove all the ridiculous speculation which we had last time and which we were starting to see this time (9k+, etc.), which was the only thing which held them back in the last earnings. Which means we can expect a normal earnings, which means a beat with a lot of impressive news. It won't be as big of a pop, but I think we'll still be headed upwards rather than downwards. Announcing a giga-factory with a partner, with financing taken care of through Tesla large cash pool + positive cash flow during growth (as we saw last quarter) + cooperation from the partner(s), which would mean no need for another offering, would also affect the stock positively. Personally, and this is just a guess, I think Tesla will be able to make the factory happen without having to do another offering. And if the partners aren't automotive-related, then Tesla may well be able to extend their side business of development services for other companies, and any announcement of this, or if the market realizes that this is going to end up being a big source of revenue for Tesla down the line, will cause a pop as well.

    Keep in mind, and this is something sleepy mentions a lot and I think he's on to something here, when a company preannounces earnings they're not going to tell you all the good news and keep the bad news for themselves, so that their earnings look bad. They will only really want to preannounce when there's more good news to come. That said, maybe the pre-earnings run will end up pricing this in, but I don't think it's priced in yet.

    So basically what I'm saying is, expecting a downward turn from here I think is folly. In the absence of a huge stock market crash, I think we're going to keep heading upwards, minus another possible temporary media hysteria over whatever the insanity-du-jour will be this time around - which will be another buying opportunity for those of us who haven't already maxed out our margins.
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    I agree FANGO, the price we're at now is what the stock was trading at right before the Q3 earnings, followed by the media having a field day with the f1r3 stories. In the meantime, since 11/5/2013, the NASDAQ is up over 7%... So, the stock is not even fully "recovered" to where it was before (considering the run-up in the broader market). This is why I don't think the good news (FY14 guidance, NHTSA, giga-factory, etc.) is priced in yet. We should be $200+ at least imo.
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    I hope you are correct. This is still a 'momo' stock. It will be great to see $200 with the Q4ER in February but I am a bit skeptical. I think the current price has most of the good news ( 6,900 delivery, NTSBA positive report (remember we got a jump with the Germans saying 'no problem'), and projected build of 35K production in 2014). I agree that a non dilution Giga battery factory, Elon's cross country trip, projection of 40K+ production for 2014...and most importantly a huge reservation for China would cause a pop. IMO, $200 will be a barrier. I think this is a psychological sell level for many people who got in at $180+ before the F*r*s.
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    I agree with this. I think that they preannounced because a 20% revenue beat basically requires you to preannounce. Otherwise the stock would have tanked to $120 on nothing new at NAIAS, before going up 50% on ER day. I think that Tesla crossed the threshold where they have to preannounce, so they did.

    BTW, nice bet on NFLX. Good luck tomorrow, but with this AH action I would not be surprised to see $400.
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    You're right, my error.
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    @techmaven - I bought some OTM weekly TSLA puts at market open. Just how we discussed during the hangout last night.

    I don't like what I am seeing from the market. Soon the TSLA buyers will dry up and as soon as the market makers and algo-bots recognize this, we might see some cascading stop loss knockouts.
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    I think the market is getting set up. :smile:
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    Right now, except for that hiccough-on-the-bell, TSLA is pretty much tracking the indexes.
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    I think that the China pricing is really helping TSLA hold up today. Wall St. really likes these kinds of stories. The China pricing will ensure that Tesla is supply constrained for the next five years at least. It is a good catalyst for the stock.

    That said, even though TSLA is only down 1% from when I bought my puts this morning, my puts are up over 80% right now. I could have cashed out for a quick triple earlier this morning, but I got greedy, and we all know that never pays off.

    The reason I held on is because I think that TSLA buying will dry up mid morning and then the stock will go into a downward spiral; so I wanted to test my investment thesis for the day by holding on to these puts. There was some early support buying in TSLA, but I don't think that there is enough support to keep the stock up today. It is either going down or going to stay flat in the mid $170s.
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    Good call so far, @sleepyhead.
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    I am really surprised at how well the price is holding up. I completely played today wrong. I panic dumped my weeklies this morning right before the bottom. I still made money in the 170's and did a little better than even with the 175's.

    If we close up for the day...
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    The bull in TSLA is strong, and I am amazed at the buying that is happening. I was able to cash out almost half of my puts for a nice gain, and then I doubled down on puts when TSLA started pressing up against $178 thinking that we might see a triple top for the day. It blew past that triple top so now I am in the hole on my puts trading even though I could have had an easy triple if I cashed out 2 minutes after I bought them.

    The mistake I made is that I failed to realize that all of the stop loss orders were knocked out in the first 5 minutes of trading. TSLA never got below $173 to trigger further stop loss orders later in the day. I think that this China pricing news is great news for TSLA investors and the market is reading it that way too. It is amazing to see TSLA in the green on a day like today. I really don't know what to think about this stock short-term anymore. I guess it is time to "hold" and see what happens.
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    TSLA /China was just discussed on CNBC 15 min ago. Nice comments. Main cnbc guy for the segment felt that it'll sell like crazy.


    then that bald commentator with the ponytail weighed in saying "it won't sell well in china. It's not a luxury brand there". IMO this commentator doesn't get it at all. My view is Chinese will love this car. It's more than just the car.... Pollution, oil, global warming etc. it'll become a big status symbol.
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    Ok, now I want to sit in a corner and cry. 180's here we come.
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    I bought puts at this price yesterday and sold them on the dip for 2x, but I'm not so sure about doing it this time after the China blog.
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    I really think the China news is massive, I am buying here all the way to ER, which is only 3-4 weeks away.
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    I'm really not sure how to play this. My earliest options are march now. Sitting on cash waiting to get back in, but there has to be a pullback, right?

    I booked profits on those weeklies, but the paperloss from yesterday's close isn't pretty, and now knowing that keeping them would have netted more than they were yesterday and I have a feeling we will punch through 180 soon. When we hit it it doesn't seem like there are sell orders at that price.
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    Is this the first that Tesla has officially committed to building out supercharger network in China? Don't recall it being mentioned before.
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    First mentioned in this thread last week and I put a link in this short te thread to it then: Tesla to build Super Charger Network in China
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    One other point on China: now that Tesla has announced the Supercharger network for China, plans for stores, has announced the price etc, there's going to be a whole lot of Chinese hearing about a Tesla (and TSLA) for the first time, that's going to put some upwards pressure on the stock as well... Many of us here bought stock, when we put our deposits down, same thing will happen in China (if you can afford a Model S, you probably invest in stocks as well)
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    Had bought some puts yesterday. It went a little red for a bit and realized that I'd be pretty mad at myself for losing money on TSLA by buying puts. So sold it this morning for a slight profit. I didn't think there would be a significant drop so probably not too much money to be made anyways. Also after the China announcement yesterday things are continuing to favor TSLA to the upside. So figured I'd just take any dips as an opportunity to buy more rather than trying to hedge or profit off of puts.

    It's weird b/c if I'm 10% in the red on calls I'm totally fine with that. But 10% in the red on puts was very stressful and hard to deal with :)
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    $181! No volume tho.
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    I bought a couple of 185 weeklies when I saw we made I through 180. We will see how this pans out.
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    I bought a bunch of Feb22 165s for ER play about an hour ago. I have no weeklies. They seem 'pricey' to me but I am just learning options so take everything I try with the proverbial 'grain of salt'. I have been holding a nice position in Jan15 $110 (sweet) that I bought back in Nov when we were in 120s.
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    I ended up selling those puts at a slight loss, and bought some Feb 28 $220 calls instead for an ER play.

    I am hoping that analysts come out tomorrow to support Tesla's decision to sell the cars cheap, I mean at a fair price in China. If not, then I think we still might continue a slow climb towards ATH, and as soon as the ER date is announced, and we get closer to it, IV should spike up. My goal is for TSLA to hit $190 - $200 leading up to ER and then see my calls double in value due to high IV pre-ER.

    Not sure if any of my trades today are making any sense since I did not get enough sleep due to the hangout :p
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    I'm impressed TSLA is holding up with the market going down today. The China news was very good indeed. I'm just sitting on my common and Jan '15 leaps for now. The IV in Feb/March options is quite high so I'm still thinking about what to do there.
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    Hang-out hung-over and out ;-) you live up to your 'nym! We love you for it. And the sense you tend to make, quite often, too.
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    Ummm, no, there doesn't. There's a high probability of one, some time, But I think we're sloping up until earnings.
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    The pullback was probably today when we went to $174 :) I think we have to keep in mind the enormously high short interest which I think is providing support. So any "correction" that does happen is small and maybe even only intraday. Also, TSLA is still a news driven stock so NHTSA results, SC expansion, etc can help this rally continue possibly up until ER. And in a day like today where the entire market is slammed TSLA is holding really strong. I'll probably continue nibbling at calls at any drop that I can. Outside of unexpected events, I just can't see any reason for a large downwards movement.
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    So do I.

    This is from SA: Tesla Motors (TSLA) CEO Elon Musk says Model S sales in China could reach the same level as in the U.S. by 2015.Musk also says the EV automaker will consider local production in China.

    Does anyone know where these quotes are from?
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    As I understand it, the next short interest report should be January 29th at 4pm for short interest as of Jan 15th ( 10 business days after the 15th). Will be interesting to see after the last 10 days.
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    See it on Bloomberg too

    Musk Says China Possible Top Market for Tesla - Bloomberg

    "For Tesla, �it could be as big as the U.S. market, maybe bigger. I don�t want to get overexcited about it,� Musk said. �Even without building there locally, it�s always going to be the second-biggest market after the U.S.�"
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    There are so many good tidbits in this article that I don't even know where to begin.

    Musk - �Long-term there�s no question we�ll have a factory in China,� he said. �There is an argument for having that be our first major factory outside the U.S.�

    Musk -     �They�re basically calling us huge idiots for not ripping off customers in China.� Musk said. �I don�t think ripping off customers is a good long-term strategy.� - This alone is a argument why Tesla will become a behemot of a company. People all over the world are tired of being screwed by greedy corporations and once they see Tesla is a company that has the interest of their costumers, it will create a brand loyalty never seen before.

    Random Chinese -     �I heard about the car from my friends overseas and we are very interested in getting one,� said Chen, a 28. �Smog in China is getting so bad that we should do whatever we can to help."
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    Thanks for the link... it sounds like the first cars to China will begin shipping in "about one week"!
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    I bought some 1/31 180 calls near the bottom this morning. Busy afternoon, so I was pleasantly surprised to see that they had doubled in value by he close.
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    Meh, sold out my weekly puts on the first dip this morning. Guess it had more to go on the second. Ah well, can't complain too much about getting to break even on those given I'd bought them right about the midpoint yesterday.
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    Doing pretty well considering the market sell off and the run it's had so far. Down about 4% compared to roughly 3% for other big names like Google, Amazon, and Yahoo. We've also held $173 fairly well the past couple of days, hope that holds.
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    GM, F & TSLA all down about the same percentage for the day.
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    I was surprised to see "china is tesla's next biggest market" and "china has huge default problem" didn't team up and hurt tesla today. I suppose the average person buying the car wouldn't have credit problems. I took the time to roll my short options up to new higher strikes. I got to buy them back in the 174 range today at about the same amount that i sold them for back when tesla crossed 160, which was nice. Then i added 400 more shares.
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    Made a similar move relative to my LEAPS investment. Was able to roll up in strike (J16 $170 > $250) for nearly half price, so doubled the contracts adding significant long; pretty much full in now. TSLA got caught in the big market down-swaft so had to take advantage. Terrible market day- the only 2 stocks in my entire portfolio up today was Starbucks and Merck. Think I'll go have some medicinal coffee to help recover :)
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    Well, it's been a bit of a crap day already, right? But remember, that's the kind of sh*t that enables growth. Just don't overdose. ;-)
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    I am not panicked by today, and that worries me. Usually panic is the best time to be buying, and I was really buying into this dip today.
    For me, KERX and ARIA were up 5-10% and I had picked up a lot of a 3x leveraged gold etf at the end of the day wednesday that was up a cool 8% in total. I sold all those to move more into jaso and to roll my short tesla options up.
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    Good advice

    Be careful out there!
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    Interesting article by Bloomberg - not exactly the Tesla lovers....I thought Elon's quote of a "measly 30,000/yr run rate" was interesting. At 48 weeks production, that puts their current weekly production at 625/wk. Even if TESLA only increases production by the same amount from Q3 2012 - Q4 2012, that means an increase of about 100/wk/qtr - or an average of 825/wk for 48 weeks, that gets them to 39,600 produced. I think they can probably do better.

    Musk Holds Swagger in Check After Tesla's Wild Ride in 2013 - Bloomberg
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    I hope pre market stays flat. I'd like to pick up a few weekly 180's for today's Munich event. I was busy yesterday afternoon and didn't get a chance to place an order.

    Is anyone else considering a small play like this?
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  • 1/1/2015
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    Already in there! Playing some profit from the last event we made money on.
    I am not so bullish of the outcome of todays event tho, but I am bullish on the market. Europe is not correcting to much after US and China.

    Now that Apple, Twitter and Facebook has done their ER, let's hope for some fresh made money going in to TSLA today.
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    I don't think Twitter had its results yet.
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    I thought they did looking at PM, but it looks like FB euphoria is carrying over and people want to make the next bet for "quick cash." If they don't beat there will be a bloodbath.

    Hopefully TSLA gets a bump for this recent news cycle
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    UA is a stock I have been watching for a while. I love their products, but don't have a position, yet.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    I am making all my money off selling too early. I had rolled some profits from the 1/14 announcement forward to a 2/7 expiration. I sold them yesterday mostly because they were 180s that weren't ITM and I was getting scared the premium might start going down fast while the market stagnates. I think next time I play some weeklies and it goes my way I'll be selling fast and rolling some of the profits into options at least 2 months out. Hopefully that will keep me psychologically sane while being able to take some advantage of momentum.

    I did pick up some March 205s while we were in the 160s. I will probably pick up some weeklies just before the earnings release as well which I will sell the next day.
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  • 1/1/2015
    guest
    There is the bump almost 5% $
    183.64
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  • 1/1/2015
    guest
    Went in big with the 180s at market open. Tried to get them at $1.70...had to keep going up till I grabbed at $1.94. Looking good so far. Did you get some?
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  • 1/1/2015
    guest
    I only got 2 of them. I paid 2.10 for them. I didn't want to risk not getting them. I have some 172.5, and a bunch of 190's I picked up for .25 a couple of days ago. I'm selling half of them when we get back to 184.

    I think today is going to be a big day, I can't wait for lunchtime.
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  • 1/1/2015
    guest
    Lets hope we get as rich as 14 days ago :)
    Working on getting the stream from Munich btw.
    �
  • 1/1/2015
    guest
    Whoa, what the heck is causing this morning's push? Just following the market (with the typical TSLA volatility amplication factor)?
    �
  • 1/1/2015
    guest
    My goodness. We are going up and the rsi-ema I'm using isn't indicating overbought. I'm still holding.
    �
  • 1/1/2015
    guest
    Sold half my weekly 180s that I bought this AM (up 135%) in 1 hour....unbelievable. Good luck to all. Hope Elon throws a good right uppercut to the shorts today.
    �
  • 1/1/2015
    guest
    We have not been at this level since the F***!
    �
  • 1/1/2015
    guest
    I have 1 Jan 2015 call @ 115 thats up ~63%. IS this a good time to sell, or should I hold?

    Thanks!
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  • 1/1/2015
    guest
    I'm not selling anything long term right now. I'm not even considering selling my feb options right now. I am only
    Watching my weeklies.
    �
  • 1/1/2015
    guest
    Hi,

    I actually drove through New Braunfels yesterday. As far as options go, nobody can tell you when to buy or sell. You have to make that decision completely on your own.
    �
  • 1/1/2015
    guest
    Leaps have brutal bid/ask spreads. You give up a big chunk buying or selling.
    �
  • 1/1/2015
    guest
    I've been playing the weeklies on off for the last month or so with great success, but small quantities. I made my move a couple weeks ago into March 175's and have been very happy since - my tax-free account has now returned to Pre-Q3 levels.

    LEAPS have definitely helped me sleep easier at night, but I'm a bit disappointed with my decision to buy them very ITM (J15 110's & J16 135's). I did it so if I did eventually decide to exercise, I wouldn't have to put up a huge amount of capital (Canadian tax-free accounts have fairly defined contribution limits, so higher strike LEAPS work well now, but cause problems when you need to generate the capital to exercise)

    Excited for the next couple of weeks, but playing things way more conservative than 6-8 months ago, even if it means missing out on monster days.
    �
  • 1/1/2015
    guest
    A live stream would be awesome! Are you going to be at the event?
    �
  • 1/1/2015
    guest
  • 1/1/2015
    guest
    Nick West is awesome. 83 others waiting for his stream to start. :D
    �
  • 1/1/2015
    guest
  • 1/1/2015
    guest
    Is it on yet? Says the event started
    �
  • 1/1/2015
    guest
    running live now
    �
  • 1/1/2015
    guest
    Yes the 180s and 185s have done well today... bought some weekly 200s with the money I made (here's to hoping :smile:)
    �
  • 1/1/2015
    guest
  • 1/1/2015
    guest
    sold some weekly 190's this morning when we hit 184, up over 50%. Wonder if I should sell before Elon takes the stage?

    edit - snapped them back up, didn't want to get greedy with the unknowns today.
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  • 1/1/2015
    guest
    I didn't sell ours. I almost did twice but I looked at how little I paid for them so I decided to hang on to them. If Elon makes an announcement that moves the stock significantly I don't want to miss it.
    �
  • 1/1/2015
    guest
    After I bought mine back I decided to buy some 190's myself with the profits, free ride! Hook me up Elon.
    �
  • 1/1/2015
    guest
    Meh, the financing announcement was underwhelming. A nice piece of the puzzle, but not a huge announcement. We'll see if the Q&A has anything.
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  • 1/1/2015
    guest
    I don't think any of the Munich event has hit the major feeds yet. Stock is just now starting to react it looks like.
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