Thứ Bảy, 29 tháng 10, 2016

Firmware 7.1 part 1

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    Dang. That would have been the best of all the new features :-(
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  • 1/1/2015
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    Sure hope @MarcG got it (I didn't yet) so we can see videos. Really want to see garage parking and how close you can get (left/right, front/back). Also the Release Notes on Perpendicular Parking were cut off on the screenshot, is it back in only?
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  • 1/1/2015
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    I'm new to this (only had my car a week) so forgive me these stupid questions. I just went out to the car and no notifications. Do they pop up onto the screen without having to dig in to software revision stuff?
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  • 1/1/2015
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    Yes. Also if you have the Tesla phone app installed and setup to receive notifications of software updates you won't need to keep going out to check your car. Sometimes it takes days to roll out to the fleet so don't worry if you don't get it right away (easier said than done) [emoji3]
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    I suspect this is because the existing sensor tech may have insufficient vertical sight to obstacles on steeper slopes and inclines ...just too many possible failures in a first implementation, especially if you think about a driveway with humps and/or valleys and obstacles where fixed sensors may miss them, or get confused on those slopes with false positives (current sensors have that issue with some larger speed bumps and steep driveways I've encountered).

    IMHO, Elon has now met another of his former AutoPilot commitments which is great. While improvements to Auto Park may help a few more owners be able to use the capability with their specific driveway situations, first completing a lot of the other non-sexy basics (Nav Waypoints, USB Media Player, etc.) to probably help a whole lot more owners would be my preference. ;)
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    Hardly. He was quite clear at the Autopilot launch that there would be a feature where the car autonomously decided at the appropriate time (based on your calendar and traffic) to power up, open your garage door, reverse itself out, close the door again, and then wait for you, without you being present.

    This latest addition is a great step forward but it's no more than the first 10% of the feature Elon envisioned, and it's still nothing that BMW/Lexus don't already have.

    Agreed.
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    Went ahead and updated. The summoning gimmick is just too fun to pass up.

    Works pretty well too.
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    Outstanding...I never expected this so soon after 7.0. I held my breath when I read the part about restrictions but this one seems cool. So proud to be a Model S owner.
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    If autopark in our tight garage works my wife might finally dare to drive the car, and I suddenly might consider a trade-in for a X90D if the price is right:eek:

    might prove to be a very expensive update....
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    most driveways have some slope so I'm curious if it has to be absolutely flat to work. Your right about NAV, was really hoping they had fixed the basic functionality of directing me to the right place and not take me in circles. I'd sacrifice waypoints for accuracy. What's wrong with USB? Mines generally very good
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  • 1/1/2015
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    Hum� how is the car supposed to unplug itself ?

    I agree Tesla is not yet up to what they announced, but I had always understood the car being able to get out of the garage/parking space itself but under user supervision.

    My first thought was that it wouldn't be that useful for home (because you need to unplug, so you might as well just hop into your seat at that point) but for tight parking spaces. Especially useful since the MS (and MX !) is a big car.
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    Any IC UI updates/changes for non-AP cars?

    I got the update notice today, but still holding out.
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    I presume the key here for you was that the AP when restricted is max of speed limit + 5, right?
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    Did anyone notice the quick select menu is missing for the radio app?
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    I asked the same question here. Hopefully we will get the answer soon. I'm holding out until I see what the new dash will be as well. Hopefully soon as our local club is meeting up in 3 hours!
    Firmware 7.1 - For Classic Model S
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    How about other UI updates even for AP cars? After a lot of complaints with the 7.0 release about the clock and weather information no longer being so convenient, I'm wondering if any improvements have been made.
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    BMW 7-series can "summon" park however I was told at the dealership this isn't enabled in North America - only Europe. Kudos Tesla for what I believe is the first autopark summon car in NA!
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    Here are some videos of Summon, one exiting the garage. (Summon will auto open the garage door on exit)




    and one entering, which it opens the door, however it got hung up on the lip to my garage. When I restarted Summon it was able to get over the lip.

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    Fantastic can't wait to see more videos of this!
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    And more specifically, any changes to the power meter? There was a different power meter shown at the 7.0 presentation, and conjecture at the time was that it was actually the 7.1 power meter.

    I have the update pending, but I'm hoping someone will answer this before I can see for myself.

    Thanks!
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    Ever had to park in a very tight garage spot in the city? And then you find out that neither you nor your passengers can get out of the car? This would be perfect for the times I'm in downtown D.C. where all the parking spots underground are built for 2 door honda civic hatchbacks. I can pull up to the spot, have everyone get out and then have the car park itself. Same when you need to get back into the car -- have the car pull out, and then everyone can pile in without worrying about the doors.
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    So can someone confirm that Summon works anywhere? Not just in and out of your own garage
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    Works anywhere. I freaked my wife out when she was waiting for me in the car while I ran into the store. When I got back I used the summon feature to pull the car out of the parking spot. Way cool.
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    It is a first step in more advanced summoning. Consider that you may someday use a map app on your phone and ask your car to come from point A to B or to drop you off and go find a parking space. Baby steps, but necessary steps
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    I took the photo apacheguy is showing. Fresh vs. recirc is on auto and thus, neither fresh nor recirc. Are black to tell us which is in use like the air flow section below it.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    Hmm, I thought Tesla would have geofenced this to your home and where Homelink is setup. This could get interesting with folks 'trying' it different places.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    Would be useful in a parking lot where you had two cars park very close to the MS, you can pull the car out without having to try and squeeze in.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    The first time I tried it the car was in the garage and it backed out all the way up to a wall opposite the garage, stopping about 4 inches from it (or I might have stopped it, not sure which happened first). I played with it from there, going in and out of the garage and it kept backing up to the wall. Then drove around and pulled in closer to the garage where I'd normally use it and had it park itself in the garage. When I then had it back out again, it stopped at about the same spot where it drove in from the previous time, nowhere close to the wall. I think it learns how far to back out based on where it pulled in from.

    Other observations: it will go into the garage at the angle you had it when you told it to go it. If that angle puts it close to an obstacle before it's all the way in, it'll just stop there. I have a post next to the space and it stopped once the post was about 4" from the side of the front bumper. I need it to park fairly close to the post so getting the angle right before telling it to go in is crucial. Frankly it's a lot easier to just drive in myself at that point. Backing out of the tight garage is a much more useful feature in my case - it'll let my wife get the car out without me involved. As others have said, it's willing to drive past all the same warnings/STOPs that I would normally drive through getting into this garage. It's very impressive and should work for many tight garages.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    LOL.

    Shame you can't talk through the console via your phone then you could pretend the car was AI. She screams to stop the car.. and you reply " I'm sorry (wife's name) I'm afraid I can't do that " then you lock the doors remotely :biggrin:

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  • 1/1/2015
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    With all of the overload of service centers, I do not think this is an appropriate use of a service center's time no matter how convenient the distance is.
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    Even though I have a 3 car garage the space is tight where I park so it will be very useful to me depending on how well it works. I haven't got the update yet to try it though.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    I cannot WAIT for this feature to become available to download for me. It is the most anticipated update for me. I park in an incredibly tight condo parking space with SUVs on both sides. Ever try loading 2 toddlers into and out of a car where you can't always even open the door to the first detent? Now I can stop short of my space, load or unload, and park it while being able to keep a close eye on the kids in a busy parking garage.

    From all parents - thank you, Tesla engineers!
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  • 1/1/2015
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    It took them less than 30 seconds to initiate the download. That was the extent of their involvement and they were happy to do it. Had they been too busy and couldn't do it I would have understood.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    Try restarting (both screens, just in case :); others have suggested this, and I know it worked for me when V7 came out.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    This will be great for owners with small garages, a little like this guy.



    Not helpful for us classic owners, unfortunately
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  • 1/1/2015
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    that sounds great except for when those cars whose drivers had to squeeze in next to your car, open their doors and ding up your car
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  • 1/1/2015
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    @tstafford
    I am not sure you got the right answer to your answer yet, since I understand you have actually no use of it - and neither do I.
    But does it really matter ?

    I am excited and you should be too, since it is very important to know that ...you don't know why you would, but you could.

    Got it ?

    More seriously, helpful or not - it just illustrates again that this car is in another league.
    All OTA, and continuously improving. Sometimes there is something for you, sometimes you pass...
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    What I mean is that it doesn't care about markings and such. I don't think it will ever just back into an open marked spot. It's going to need things all around for the ultrasonics.
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    I agree 100%.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    Well for me, it may well mean I go ahead and "Configure" my X reservation.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    Jeeze...I have only had the car a week and I'm already spoiled rotten with the rest of us Tesla owners. Who in the world that owns any other car gets to complain that there needs to be a shortcut on the radio and have every expectation that sooner or later it will be done?

    Thank you TESLA!

    (I'm thinkin' placing a order for a MX this is so awesome.)
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  • 1/1/2015
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    Can't you just use the right steering wheel scroll button to do that?
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  • 1/1/2015
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    Oh sheesh, I use that button all the time. How do we change sources without it, please don't tell me the steering wheel only?!?!?!?
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    I usually switch sources with the steering controls.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    Two quick things �

    1. I timed the install. Took one hour 17 minutes for me.
    2. My driveway has an approximately 5� slope. Pulling both in and out of the garage works just fine.
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    I don't see any indication that summoning pays attention to painted lines at all. I'm not sure why they thought it would in that video.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    Tesla needs to make available a charge cable eject system for the charger port. Then the auto summon, garage door open, feature would actually be quite useful. I don't think the current charge port can do that though.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    I tend to leave the right thumbwheel set to climate temp... It's hot in Phoenix and until recently I would have to turn the AC to "LO" until the car was comfortable then adjust it back to 73 or 74. I will say that Tesla changed the ramp/response the fan and compressor in a firmware update a while back and I find myself messing with the climate functions much less.

    The audio change source icon they removed took up a whole 1/4" x 1/4" real-estate on the UI, :/
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    Anyone have a sloped driveway and it worked? How sloped is your driveway?
    Doesn't look like update hit the West Coast yet.
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    Hmm Paramus is 3 hrs away. Maybe I'll just wait
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  • 1/1/2015
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    The lip doesn't seem to be an issue for summon, but it is stopping while to park. I too am having the intermittent garage door opening. I've had the problem for awhile with homelink. Sometimes it takes several tries, so it's not a problem with summon but rather homelink.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    Wow. I realize you're making a joke, but I worry about the sort of cruel pranks people will think up for the YouTube audience. "TESLA WIFE FREAKOUT!! Check out her reaction! lolz"

    LPT: in a healthy relationship, you and your partner trust each other. If you lock them into a moving vehicle and make them fear for their safety and well-being, and you find that scenario to be LOL funny, it will not help them to continue trusting you.
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    Yes; 5�.
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    FYI.,.Summons is only suppose to be used on private property
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    I was wondering about that. The first door programmed on my list is the one with the S.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    @thecloud yes I assume @1208 was making a joke, and while I 'freaked out my wife' that lasted for about a second until she looked up and saw me standing in front of the car. I also don't believe it is possible to "lock" a front passenger in a moving tesla (exit handles always work), and yes I imagine that that 1MPG 40' max auto summon ride would be terrifying.

    When I get into the car my wife was laughing and thought it was cool. LPT: enjoy life and laugh.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Parking lot is private property.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    Can someone explain the relationship between the home link settings and how summon works? Mine is set to auto-close and auto-open, which works fine when manually driving. If I go to the garage and use summon, it will drive up to the edge of the garage door and stop. Similarly, if I try to put it away with the garage door closed, it will drive up to the door and stop in the driveway.

    If I manually open the garage door before I ask it to leave, it will pull out and close the garage door behind itself. I notice from the videos some people can summon it and it will open the door, pull out and close the door behind itself. I cannot replicate that behavior.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    RE: the auto open, pull out, and leave... Have you tried driving away from your house (1/4mi or so) and then coming back home and trying again? I was having difficult with this after my update but once I took a trip and came back home the car will open and close the garage as necessary (it uses the ultrasonics to sense there is something in the way).
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  • 1/1/2015
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    Awesome! And you have a sloped driveway - can it park or just backup?

    Also - can you set how far back it goes? Seems pretty far for my liking... I'd like mine to stop 3-5 feet out of the garage not 20'.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    If I drive up, the auto-open will open the door before I line up to park. However, it doesn't ever seem willing to open the garage door on its way out.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    Same here - my Tesla will stop in the middle of the street, my driveway is not that long...
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  • 1/1/2015
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    Yes it was a joke. There is no way I would do that. But YouTube Pranksters would do what I suggested.:smile:
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  • 1/1/2015
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    My wife no longer lets me take the keys when I run into the store because the car shuts down and she has to "sit in a cold, silent car" ....
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    Some day... Watch Tesla plug itself into a Model S | The Verge
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  • 1/1/2015
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    If she's sitting in the car she can just touch the control panel and the car will come back on for heating/cooling and media. No key needed, unless that has changed recently.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    Will try. I would have imagined she tried to press everything she could the other night when this conversation happened. I'll try again!
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  • 1/1/2015
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    You have to act fast. If you touch the touchscreen within a short time after it goes dark, everything turns back on. Miss the window and you can't do anything. I think it's only like 20-30 seconds.
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    I have not. I used the auto door open as I came home. Worked great! I'll try that tomorrow and report back.
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    Get out, tap Brake pedal, close door.
    That's supposed to leave the car on. Let us know how it works...
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    Instead of park, use the parking brake from the menus. I've left the car on accidentally for several hours.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    I agree. But do you really want to be parked there (if you can avoid it) when the other people come back to their cars?
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    I agree. I see it being more useful in the parking garage scenario where there are columns on both sides, or a wall on one side. My experience is that in many garages with EV spots, they're frequently in the tightest, walled off areas. Having the MS/MX back into those spots comfortably would be nice.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    Yep, she has to touch the screen before it walk away auto-locks. Also after the car auto-locks, she MUST unlock the car from the touch screen before pulling on the handles to open the door or else the car alarm will go off.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    Another very cool opportunity this creates is a specifically designed space for parking a Tesla at home or at a business. Imagine a container style structure with less than 3-4" of clearance everywhere. You could actually have a pod like device that would totally protect the car and be transportable. Even put the pod on a turntable to re position the car for convenience. I'm no architect but this could be a fun project!
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    They were testing the auto summoning which this really isn't the right demo for.
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    Checking out one of the other new features, I looked at the Nav screen after installing 7.1 in the Sig S and learned that none of the Superchargers in the Lower 48 are reportedly inoperative.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    Yes, I found going about 4 mph passing the parking spot I want to back into, and going about three spots up, presented the park icon. Putting my car in park, presented the option to park. The car takes over and parks in the middle of the spot.
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    When you leave the car have your wife tap the center console screen. The car will power back up. You have about 30 seconds or so to do this.
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    Is there some way to get your car to check for an update. My car has yet to realize that an update is available. I'm in the US and WiFi seems fine. Any suggestions?
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    You can try rebooting the center console. A few people have said that has worked for them. Tesla generally deploys new software slowly to reduce risk.
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    There was supposedly the 45mph max speed you mentioned in 2.9.40 and above, but I never saw it in my >1 month with 2.9.40 and 2.9.77. Looks like 7.1 now restricts it more comprehensively.
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    Would summon work with a garage that is not directly facing the street? Mine is attached at a right angle to the house and I would love it if it could pull in and out and align itself down the driveway.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    Not yet, sorry... been skiing this weekend so probably won't install it until early next week, assuming I get the notification by then!

    EDIT: looks like others have posted videos already. Wow so much activity in this thread already, and it's barely been a full day! That's what I get for being away to have fun on the slopes :biggrin: still catching up with the first 50 posts here!
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  • 1/1/2015
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    Generally I get a notification on my phone as soon as the download is complete. I have found no way to increase the chance that the download will happen. Totally random and controlled by TM.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    There is something very strange with that update regarding the German version of it:

    In the English version, it states that the autopilot will work up to the speed limit plus 5mph (8km/h)
    In German however, it says the complete opposite: The autopilot will work up to the speed limit MINUS 10km/h!

    That would really piss me off.. Having an autopilot that always drives 10km/h (6mph) under the speed limit is completely useless. And it would also not make any sense to have it like this just in Europe.

    Can someone in Europe please confirm that this is just a translation error?
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  • 1/1/2015
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    Well, I thought it was funny! :) Of course it only works if your wife gets the 2001 reference.
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    Why o why is tesla punishing me with no update....

    Also, any UI changes? Power meter, etc?
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    Yes, why? Unlock while driving & it locks again, it does not learn!
    And now the dome lights come on when the unlock feature is used-annoying (have to turn interior lights to "off" position on control panel for night driving).
    I like the other changes, but this one?
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  • 1/1/2015
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    I am still waiting for my update but I have two questions�

    - when using the auto park perpendicular parking� Does the car back into the spot or pull in front ways?

    - I never got the update on my P85D that included launch control. Will this new 7.1 update include the launch control?
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    1) Backs in.

    2) Apparently no launch control in this release.
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    I love Doris Day and her parking!
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    So odd that launch control would be part of a previous release but then not on this release? Doesn't this mean the people who got launch control previously who now put 7.1 on their cars will lose launch control?
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    Has anybody got a video (or know of a video link) showing a Tesla doing a perpendicular auto park?
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  • 1/1/2015
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    So this is pretty much 26 pages on the one part of 7.1 that won't be available where I live.

    How about at least a few posts on everything other than summon?

    Some UI shots? (power meter, new AP display, any other new apps?)

    Some talk about the restrictions would be good too. Considering that the car actually knows the speed limit on any given road less than 50% of the time, how do these restrictions work? how accurate is it at knowing which roads have dividers or not?

    Let's hear about the important parts of this update!
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    Agreed, I read all the pages hoping to hear something besides the dumps feature... Seems that's the highlight.
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    Wow. The guy was making a joke and referencing the movie "2001: A Space Odyssey". You don't need to worry that someone is now going to lock their spouse inside their Tesla and terrorize them.
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    Dave: If you don't get one forwarded to you by tomorrow let me know and I will make one and send it to you. It does a nice job of making sure it is centered between the two adjacent cars perfectly. Al
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    Thanks. Tried it. I guess I'll just have to wait turn.
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    For those updating the firmware tracker, seems to be mostly 85 (non D) and P85Ds...
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    I was just noticing the same thing.

    Has anyone with a 90D or P90D received 7.1 yet?
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    Have not. But also in CA. Seems no one in CA yet?

    But saw my first Model X just a few mins ago while at the carwash. Very nice!
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    Nothing here in TX. I have a service appointment Tuesday so if I'll have it pushed if I don't get it earlier.
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    got it this afternoon with an 85D
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    I guess it may be like 7.0 for me. Go to sleep and wake up with a nice Christmas present. :biggrin:
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    As I don't have any version of 7 (I live in Japan) I'm assuming the car returns itself to the place where auto-park was initiated?
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    Anyone going to go on a Sunday drive who can test the changes in the Trip Planner?
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    Zero 90's on ev-fw, which is more than a statistical anomaly by now.
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    Some in Texas have received it, but I wouldn't be so eager to be one of the first. Better to get it after a week or two when they're sending out a minor update with bug fixes. It always happens. That's why the new releases are rolled out slowly, so any bugs don't hit all the cars at once.
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    I saw a bunch of requests here so I made one and posted it to this thread:

    7.1 Perpendicular Parking Video and Comments
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  • 1/1/2015
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    Are you sure? The 85s far outnumber the 90s.

    - - - Updated - - -

    I can confirm that the auto folding mirror behavior of immediately unfolding when you open the door did not change with 7.1. Turned that off right away again. :(
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    I don't really buy the theory that they roll out firmware slowly. At least not with the major releases.

    If one looks at the firmware tracker there is already 62 entries for V7.1, and the update hasn't even reached California yet. When was the last time the firmware tracker showed that many updates for a day? Likely not sense the European rollout of AP for V7.0.

    I'm still on the first version of V7.0 that I received (2.7.56), and that was back in October.

    It just doesn't seem to fit the pattern of a slow gradual rollout. Instead it seems like they rollout updates (depending on time zone), and then they hodgepodge fixes. I don't know how they determine who gets the intermediate updates. There are some people here that seem to get every update, and there are some who don't seem to get any of them except the major ones. It seems to be a different behavior than the V6.2 updates.
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    Are there 19 times more P85D's on the road than all 90's? Seems unlikely given the exponential production rate.
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  • 1/1/2015
    guest
    Replace P85D with P85Ds, P85s, 85Ds, and S85s, and yes, there could be 19x more than the 90s.
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  • 1/1/2015
    guest
    Not relevant a relevant number. Although P85D+85D vs P90D+90D is, and currently that's 32 vs 0. That is a signal.
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  • 1/1/2015
    guest
    I agree that more things may be picked up as time passes but I would bet that these things have been in alpha and beta testing for some time now. Hopefully, many issues would have been picked up by that group(s)
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  • 1/1/2015
    guest
    I'm lost, signal of what?
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  • 1/1/2015
    guest
    according to firmware tracker, most of the updates are in the 05xxxx and 06xxxx VIN range. Also of note is no reported 7.1 updates for VINs after 09xxxx (cars since ~July '15 and essentially all of the P90D/90D's).

    Maybe going older to newer? East to West??? who knows.... anyway, I didn't win the powerball tonight so I guess I'll continue obsessing on this....
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