Thứ Năm, 27 tháng 10, 2016

Social Chat - Short Term TSLA Movements part 5

  • 1/1/2015
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    I bought some jan 14 150's when the stock was in the mid 139's. I hope that was the bottom. If it goes down to the 20 day sma I will double down. I was up 10% about 20 minutes after I bought them. They are currently up 5% right now.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    Catching falling knives is tough with weeklies. But if you're able to do it and time the bottom perfectly then you'll be really well off otherwise it'll hurt :) Another strategy which is a bit safer is to wait for a little bit of consolidation before buying. For example, if you think support at $140 is looking good and it's been there for the past 20 minutes then that might be a good time.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    I got some Dec $144 Calls earlier. I think tomorrow it will eighter be big green or red. Let's hope Santa Elon has a gift for us!
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    Okay, so about 30 minutes later TSLA is back up to the price where I was up 20%. But now I am only at break even :(
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    be careful of some on this site who urge people to buy while they are not divulging their selling at the same time.
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    I'm not sure why someone would do that. Is your thinking that by posting what we are "buying" here that others will follow, driving the price up so we can then sell for a larger gain?
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  • 1/1/2015
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    I think that is exactly what he is trying to say. I would just ignore everything he says, because he has a personal vendetta against me and most likely his comment was aimed towards me, since about 10% of his 172 posts are personal attacks against me. He is prone to giving out (bad) financial advice, while it is very clear that he has no professional training or experience in this area. E.g. he doesn't understand that over $1 billion worth of TSLA shares trade every day, and that in order to be able to move the stock price you would probably need a couple hundred million dollars per day to make an impact. Even if 1,000 people on TMC followed you into a trade it would not make any impact on TSLA at all. This is the same guy who on Monday realized (on Tesla's website) that Superchargers are opening in Germany, bought some call options, and then opened a thread about it and even put in the title that this will impact TSLA's share price. Now he is accusing us of trying to pump up the stock for our own personal gain. Hypocritical much?

    The only reason I posted my trades in this thread is for people to realize how risky weekly options are and how quickly VOL can work in your favor or against you. When I post here it is to share knowledge. The whole point of creating this social thread was to discuss trades. There are too many people on TMC right now trying to ruin this great forum. There has to be something we can do about this. It is getting to a point where I am about to stop posting completely.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    I took advantage of the early morning volatility and cashed out half of my Dec. 27 $147 options I bought yesterday afternoon at a 30% gain with 3 separate orders. I have one more order in for a potential 50% gain if it gets struck, but will let the rest (including this one if not struck by EOD) ride into next week.

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    Order for 50% gain got struck as well. Put in another order for ~65% gain.
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    Thanks for the update. I plan to let mine run today. Think we have more room to go up. I have some dec 27 and jan 3. They're also up more than 30% already.
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    Sleepy, I for one, and I am sure I speak for many other appreciative members on this forum, appreciate very much the amount of work you do and that you are willing to share with us.
    Gene
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    Gone! That was quick. Still left with abot 20% of the options I bought yesterday
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    Sold off the rest of my options for 50% gain. The stock started stagnating around $143.5, so I didn't want the decrease in volatility to eat away the profits, especially if TSLA were to fall to $142 or less after a short period of consolidation.

    Overall I bought my Dec. 27 $147's yesterday when TSLA was around $139.8 and sold today for a 42% gain in the $142-$144 range. Not a bad days work, I don't like to get too greedy on these weekly trades. Probably would have made a lot more by holding into next week, but that is an unknown and it can easily go the other way too.

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    Another reason I sold off all of my weeklies is that I am staying true to my latest post in my megapost thread (two days ago), where I said that I expect TSLA to consolidate in the mid $140's and form a pennant. I would need TSLA to go above $150 by the end of next (shortened by holidays) week in order for me to justify holding my weeklies. I don't think that TSLA will go above $150 by the end of next week without any big catalysts, so I thought that selling at a 40% gain is the most logical thing to do.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    how can i speak to motive? since we wouldn't think of it, we probably wouldn't understand it anyway
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    TSLA is now consolidating at $143.5-$144, and the volatility crush is eating away at the weekly options premium. I was able to sell some of my options at $2.39 when TSLA barely crossed $144. Then I sold off some more at $2.20 with TSLA also at $144. Now 30-45 minutes later with TSLA just above $143.5, these options are selling for $1.89 or 20% cheaper. Just shows how risky it is to play weekly options. You really have to time your purchases perfectly (which I was fortunate to do yesterday afternoon) and time your sales perfectly as well (one of my sales was $0.01 below the high of the day). Very risky and I normally do not play weekly options for this reason.

    The only reason I bought weeklies this time is because I strongly believed that the two-day 10% decline in TSLA was overdone and that today, no matter what, we would get a dead cat bounce. I thought that the probability of this happening was very high (as in more than 50%), so I bought weeklies with the intention of selling them today immediately if the return was high enough fast enough. I never thought they would end up in the money.

    If I had bought the Dec. 21's, say $144 or so, then I would have made 100%+ returns. But if TSLA went down today or stayed flat then those OTM options would have gone down 80% within the first hour of trading. The reason I bought the Dec. 27's was because they would have gone down only 20% in such a scenario and I still would have been able to bail out without losing my shirt. Less risk = less reward. But the risk was still extremely high, and a one day gain of 40% is extremely high reward as well.

    I am happy with my trades, but really do not recommend trying this unless you are glued to a computer and can keep an eye on the prices on a consistent basis.

    I don't play weeklies that often, because it is a lot harder than it sounds. I think that selling weeklies is the better way to play them. I decided to play the weeklies this time, because I felt very strongly that the pullback was a little overdone, but I could have easily been wrong and lost money. That little bit of doubt is why I didn't play the Dec. 21's instead.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    I'm taking the other side of it, i bought at 139.5 and 140.5 common shares, and I'm looking for a pop of 147 by the end of the day to sell into next weeks weekly options volatility.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    Wow, if we get a pop to 147 by the end of the day I will be parting with half of the January options I bought yesterday. I was planning in holding them until the new year before taking half off the table.

    As of right now they are up 23%. I didn't want as much risk as sleepy took on because I have been burned by weeklies so many times before. I bought near the money January options in this pull back because I feel it is very unwarranted. My exit strategy is sell half when they double then keep the rest to let them ride.

    I think with the new year there will be some fantastic catalyst in the next few weeks. Nhtsa being the biggest and I also think that tesla may unveil the final Model X in January at the autoshow. These two announcements alone I feel will get us back to the 160's.

    I may look to do a weekly play the week of the auto show if the stock doesn't recover too much by then. The show is op exp week for the January's.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    So you are going to sell calls against your shares? That is the right way to play weeklies IMO, i.e. selling and not buying them. You have time premium on your side.

    Your strategy is best described as "buying value and selling hopes and dreams." That is the best way to make money in the market.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    Yeah selling hopes and dreams is right. I tend to buy 100 to 200 shares, then sell of 5-7 weekly contracts dated 7-10 days away for 1.00 each after a pop. Seems to be working ok, i get a large margin call for 5 days away because i don't have the stock to meet 5 of the 7 contracts if they got assigned (so the 5 contracts carry a ~$10,000 requirement that i don't have free), and i buy the contracts back a day or two before expiration and settle the margin call.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    I'd also be cautious of selling weeklies. TSLA is obviously really volatile and makes big moves up or down and if the weeklies aren't far enough OTM then you can really get burned, especially if you don't have shares to back them. Also, even if they are far enough OTM it often takes discipline and stress to hold on and not buy to close when there is a big move up or down.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    my gas water heater broke at the same time my model s was charging. any reporter that want the full story can message me.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    I think you moved them out of the short-term thread and not this one.

    Just to conclude on the options I bought yesterday and sold today at a profit. If I still held them right now I would be right at break even. Even I though I bought yesterday at $139.80 and the stock is at $143, the options (Dec 27 $147) are worth exactly the same. It shows how quickly time premium evaporates on weeklies. Next week is a holiday week so only three and a half days left for trading. Yesterday there was 4.5 days left, so this makes sense that the options have not gone up in value even though TSLA has.

    That's why it is better to be selling options (as long as they are hedged) than to be buying them.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    Thanks, Sleepyhead, too many open tabs!

    Speaking of sleepy, has the market started a two-week hiatus? Remarkably flat today, volumes half of normal. Any views as to what this says about IV on options over the next couple of weeks?
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  • 1/1/2015
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    With Jan 1 being on a Wednesday this year, I'd expect 'normal' volume won't return until Monday Jan 6th.

    Most institutional investors short-staffed the next few weeks, and have 'closed' their books for the year. The IV's should have already come down to reflect this, VIX certainly has post-FOMC.
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    So does that mean now is a good time to pick up some options because the volitility will be lower?
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    I don't think IV has anything yo do with low volume. Best time to buy is at the end of a consolidation period.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    As qtr comes to a close I always find it instructive to listen to last cc again. Doing that was again instructive to me. They mention as a priority establishing higher efficiency model s and x production lines. I thought the recent purchase was for model x line but clearly both. The other thing I found interesting to me was the CFO commenting on high demand from china despite the lack of any measures to push it there. "No spence pushing demand when production limited". Of course you all remember this but I had forgotten. It also is remarkable what a good qtr they had and the discouraging result
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  • 1/1/2015
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    http://uk.reuters.com/article/2013/12/21/uk-daimler-tesla-idUKBRE9BK09320131221

    : )

    Daimler's pretty bull on Tesla's longevity.

    "The objective of the transaction concluded is to protect the value of Daimler's shareholding in Tesla, whilst allowing Daimler to retain significant participation in any further appreciation of Tesla share price during the three year collar agreement," Daimler said in a statement late on Friday.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    Maybe they are but this seems like a pretty neutral move designed to protect them from a loss in share price at the expense of upside. On the other hand we know what they don't plan on selling, which is good.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    It seems bullish on Tesla Motors long-run, but more bearish on TSLA short-run. I'm assuming they bought long-dated ATM puts, probably through private placement. Anyone know?
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  • 1/1/2015
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    Likely. But this move as a reported event seems odd to me. A substantial purchase of puts is not a bullish move! it's a hedge, the cost of which is a price to stay long just as if they had trimmed position. Otherwise a long term 3 year position is only enhanced by the puts if it's an independent play to sell them when short term down moves occur. Otherwise it's a price to stay long. However you look at it, this is a less bullish position than it was before. Now the reasons could include Dailmler's hedge against being a partner and more of a competitor rather than a belief in TSLA value. That's the only way I translate it to Tesla bull
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  • 1/1/2015
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    From the article:

    "The objective of the transaction concluded is to protect the value of Daimler's shareholding in Tesla, whilst allowing Daimler to retain significant participation in any further appreciation of Tesla share price during the three year collar agreement," Daimler said in a statement late on Friday.

    A collar is when you buy an OTM put, while simultaneously selling an OTM call. This is a protective options strategy that allows you lock in a portion of your profits while still participating in upside (but not to the full extent). Depending on how much protection you want (and how much you limit your upside) you can do this for free, as a debit collar, or as a credit collar.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    Hey maybe they're up to the old German tricks and trying to pull a Porsche/VW on us...anyone want to be the most valuable company in the world for about ten minutes?

    (I'm kidding...............sort of).
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  • 1/1/2015
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    Merry Christmas everyone!
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    Merry Christmas!! Still holding thoose weeklys? I am :)
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  • 1/1/2015
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    Haha, in hindsight I should have held on, oh well. Glad that at least you are making a nice return.

    I am very long TSLA already, so I had to limit my exposure anyway. Those weeklies were just a quick trade never intended to hold on for more than a day.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    And to you! Best wishes for a prosperous new year.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    I know I'm new around here, but I would like to thank everyone for the wealth of information and interesting reading you have all provided this year.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    So this didn't really fit anywhere, but maybe this is a good place to see what others think about this...

    If you guys check the Model X Tally thread, you'll notice it is getting very close to 10k pre-orders. (It is at 9800+ right now). Now, I know that number is probably not accurate, only Tesla knows the real figures, but it is not unreasonable to assume we will get to 10K in Q1 2014.

    What do you guys think Tesla should/will do and how would/will that impact the stock price?

    Will they make an announcement as soon as we get to 10k? Will they just simply include that line in their Q4 earnings/2014 projections?
    And when that milestone is announced, how will that impact TSLA? Is that already priced in? Is 10k at this point in the Model X lifecycle better or worse than what Model S had?

    I personally think having 10k reservations about 1 year before production begins while the price is still unknown and most of those 10 thousand people have only seen the car on their computer screens is awsome. Not to mention, it also means the Model X production lines are probably booked solid until summer 2015.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    Sloooow day. Can't remember the last time volume was under 5M.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    Really slow again on New Year's Eve, but TSLA closed over 150 for the year, which is crazy considering that the year started with shares trading in the 33-34 range.

    I'm looking forward to a great 2014: Launch of Model X, rapid expansion of the Supercharger network, and overseas sales (China mostly). I'll be watching battery supply and factory expansion as well.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    Good thing to remember. I'll be really happy with half that gain next year. That would be 330.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    My hope for 2013, at $ 30 in December 2012, was a run up to about $ 60 within a year. I had never dreamed about $150 :cool: Today I may dream for $ 300 in the end of 2014 :wink: Happy new year to all of you Tesla longs, and especially to those who are contributing in this excellent tread :smile:
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  • 1/1/2015
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    How confident do you guys feel, if at all, that we will hit 200+ after earnings in February or a month after? I have a certain number in my head that when the shares hit that 200 I can sell and get my Tesla as many have done before me. :)
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  • 1/1/2015
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    IF...IF...We have only positive catalysts from now till then, including some 'surprises' with guidance, then very possible. However, we did hit 195 in what seems like forever ago and you know the story since then.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    Agree with AIMc. Up day today, bank it. Buzz building around Detroit Auto Show, now less than 2 weeks away. Model X will bring down the house.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    I will have a big party when we reach 200! It will be held in Teslaland(Norway). If it happens this month I will pay for all the drinks.
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    So if we can get there we are invited? ;)
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    I read it as he was providing transportation too. ;)
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    In that case sign me up!! :D The two times I've been to Norway it was "free," I should continue the trend!
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  • 1/1/2015
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    Price is holding remarkably steady at around 150. Are investors and speculators alike just on the edge of their seats waiting for news?
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  • 1/1/2015
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    IMO, Yes. Very little news recently, either positive or negative, has both longs and shorts pausing.....Of course there may be few shares available to short.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    Yes. It is not going up because it needs NHSTA to close that 180 gap. It is not going down because NHSTA will cause a short squeeze if it is positive so no more major shorts piling on. Everyone who has stocks is waiting for either NHSTA or earnings release. Tolerance against media created fire stories seems to have built up after several failed attempt at linking the T with the F to cause a panic. Seems like TSLA investors read past the headlines and actually check the circumstances. And since we went through the party and drunk driving of new years without a fire. Everything seems fine.
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    I think this is the lowest volume we have seen in a long time too.
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    I like your use of the "F" to avoid mentioning "it". I think I'll do the same.
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    Yes. F*** seems appropriate.
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    Everyone is invited. We need $300 for me to pay for transportation :)
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  • 1/1/2015
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    Make it an earnings call party and I'll be there. unfortunately, my backpacking plan don't start till beginning of February.
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    Are you packpacking in Europe? Earnings call party sounds good in February as I might be in the Caribbean :)
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  • 1/1/2015
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    Thinking about going to Germany. So will be in the vicinity. Need to do asia as well. I think I'll do a pilgrimage of tsla stores.
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    Cool, I might do Asia if the Carrebean is to expencive. If tou are starting your trip in February I would do Asia first due to the weather.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    Loaded up on TSLA $155 Jan18 options this morning. The stock is bound to bounce upwards soon.

    These options are really cheap.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    I did as well. Trying my hand at short term options..we shall see. Between the in house announcement at TM and the Auto show announcement these should be a good play.
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    Do you have a defined exit point with a short play like this or are you generally just watching the stock and making a gut decision on when to exit?
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  • 1/1/2015
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    Being my first 'test' with weeklies that strategy would be helpful. Up 25% in 1 hour.
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    low volume today.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    I like to sell half when the price doubles that way the risk is gone and a lot of the emotion is gone from my decision.

    I have also done this with a slightly
    modified approach when there is a good run and I have some time to watch the stock. I let them ride and watch the stock with one minute candles. Three consecutive red candles and I sell no matter how small or what type they are. (After all I'm selling above what I wanted to get anyways.). Because I'm watching it by the minute a big red candle will get sold too because of emotion. :D
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  • 1/1/2015
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    I think if you take multiple options contracts (not just one) I would personally sell some portion at such gain, then some at 50% some at 75% etc. Then again if you bought them for a particular strategy (i.e. autoshow), then I'd wait for the catalyst unless the deal becomes too good not to take :) If you bought more than one then one option is to sell half when you hit +100% ;)
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    Thanks Mario and Shadows. Up close to 70% now. I have 25 contracts. Will probably sell a portion.

    Suspect this is catalyst http://finance.yahoo.com/news/inplay-briefing-com-055139997.html#tsla At&T and TM in long term agreement
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    we taking any bets on if it will break $150 today with some gusto or just limp around it?
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  • 1/1/2015
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    I'm expecting it too soon. I have options that expire next week at 150, 155, 160, and a 170 as a gamble. The positions get lighter as you go up. The 160's and 170 are a little under. I thought about picking up another 170 this morning but I doubt it will get that high.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    I will gladly sell you some $170s. No, I don't have any to sell. I am actually already short the $170's; sold them a while back for like $3. TSLA will not get that high next week IMO.

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    These I am just playing by ear. No real exit strategy.

    This is great advice. And this is what I normally do.

    I always have an exit strategy except this time I bought them for the auto show speculation. But if they run up this week then I will sell some this week if they double. I will have to wait and see what the market does.
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    Just don't get too greedy with these weeklies. 70% up can be 50% down in a wink. It's like musical chairs - don't be the fool when the music stops playing ;)
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  • 1/1/2015
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    Wise words, and very accurate. Not complaining but now down from 70% to 50% :wink: I will probably just hang on to see what happens at the auto show with TM and Panasonic presentations.
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    Go big or go home.

    On second thought I might just hold them till next week and see what the auto show produces.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    Short Term TSLA Investor Social Chat

    That's why I didn't buy one. I bought most of these positions in early December. At that time I was expecting to see 155-160 by now. I thought we would go into the auto show at 160. You can see how well that prediction was.

    I'm thinking hard about starting to buy one strike lower than what I plan. I had a lot of options that I missed by one strike.

    This resistance at 150 is amazing.
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    I've gone home (empty handed) a few times too many, due to excess greediness :)
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    We've all been there :wink:

    BTW, good to see you posting here again.
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  • 1/1/2015
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    Thanks. I'd also like to say thanks for your work on solar stocks. I'm heavily in with stocks in CSIQ, JKS, TSL all nicely up and calls in SPWR and CSIQ. CSIQ Jan15 $30 calls looking very good, already up 200% :))))
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    Seems like daily volume has been around 5M over the last few weeks and the price has hardly moved. Maybe the bot is still on vacation?

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    How did you conclude this? It looks to me like they just agreed to keep them as the service provider, but that doesn't have bearing on when they decide to pass the costs on to us.
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    The word "enable". If it was something that we would have to buy I would think they would have used another word like option or offer. IMO the context of the paragraph is the agreement was struck so Tesla can continue its remote diagnostics service and secondly provide us with great Internet features too.
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    Johan...You would be proud, took 110% gain early this AM on about half those 155, Jan 18 weeklies this AM. My first jump into weeklies successful, but I realize that I could have been at the other end of that stick!
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    Happy on your behalf TSLA brother.
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    I sold off almost half of my weeklies as well for a double.
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    All hands meeting must be over without any breaking news. Small selloff in TSLA from 153 to 151 in last half hour.
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    It's the quiet period before earnings season. I am restless from lack of news, but should be thankful that the news media isn't taking advantage of this time to mount full on 86 pages report on why ppl should short TSLA or any of the companies I invest in. Heck there isn't even a short attack on shady chinese reverse merger corps. Which says something in itself
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    We're getting back towards the stock value when sleepyhead mentioned the Jan 18th 155's. If it drops back to the same $145 or so, would it again be worth looking at something like a 2 week out $155?
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    I just bought back twice as many $155's Jan18 as I sold yesterday for less cash :)

    Greed has gotten the best of me but TSLA is bouncing off of the 20 day moving average for 3 days straight. It is sitting there right now so I bought what I think is the bottom.

    Plus it is The auto show next week and I am more than 50% positive that Tesla, and hence TSLA, will have a big surprise for us. I think the odds favor the longs on this trade.

    Ckessel - I don't think TSLA is going to $145 but if it does then I will triple down because that is the 50 day moving average around that area. I don't think it gets that low though.

    Just my opinion. I think the odds for a positive run are 70%. At the minimum I am expecting a "buy the rumor" over the next 3 days.
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    I also felt that it was a good time to buy back the 155Jan18s I sold recently. Did not hit the bottom like sleepy did but did get back in at hopefully a good risk/reward level.
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    just doubled up on my Jan18 $155s after it bounced below 147 just a few minutes ago. Lets hope for some good news next week!

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    Wow funny to see everyone else making the same exact move as me. Good luck to us all.
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    Laser-like coherent swings cut right to the core. (Hopefully. That's my reflexion.) Still recharging my quantum state exciter, here.
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    That's because right now the odds favor the longs. There is more than a 50% chance for a run over the next few days. I think we are all making the prudent trading decision. Even if the stock falls and we lose money, it was the correct trade.

    That is all you can do; play the odds.
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  • 1/1/2015
    guest
    I too purchased some $155 Jan-17s late today. Give us some good news Elon+NHTSA :cool:
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  • 1/1/2015
    guest
    I didn't double up, but I did add some more 155's. I didn't rebuy the 150's I sold yesterday though. I really hope this isn't a repeat of Q3. I'm much less aggressive this time so if things don't work out it won't hurt as bad.
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  • 1/1/2015
    guest
    I hardly ever play short term- All LEAPS; but on occasion I'll use a little play money to dabble in these opportunities - so I joined in with a small position, Jan18 but at $160 strike with the guess that the run might be greater, but not start until monday so these will track a little slower at first if we drop some tomorrow;
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  • 1/1/2015
    guest
    I didn't get in last time, but I got in this time with what tiny portion of cash was unallocated in my account (enough for 10 options). A bit before the dip in the last hour, 1.52 an option for Jan18th 155.
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  • 1/1/2015
    guest
    149.30 AH haha. Of course, low volume though

    Boom, I nailed the bottom today on the $155s. that $1.25 order was me haha. Or course it doesnt mean anything yet. lol
    Been a decent week of me on calling the ends. Yesterday i sold out of my $150s and was the topper for that.
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  • 1/1/2015
    guest
    149.30? Maybe a delayed or combo trade... (see 16:06:41)

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  • 1/1/2015
    guest
    Me too. Perhaps we should standardize "f**e" or something.

    (Sorry... to much time working as a standards engineer.)
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  • 1/1/2015
    guest
    f1re fir3 f1r3 hm...
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  • 1/1/2015
    guest
    I prefer f**** since in TSLA land that four letter word is equivalent to the swear word. For newbies unaware, it causes the right reaction that we try to convey. For long term lurkers, we know what it represent.
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  • 1/1/2015
    guest
    Still bouncing around 150 + or - a couple points.

    Any news on what's planned for NAIAS?
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  • 1/1/2015
    guest
    I'd be surprised if Tesla doesn't present the finalized version of the Model X on Tues. very excited as a res holder on what the finalized features/technology will be.

    Im very curious what the Panasonic press conference on Monday will be about though, if it has any surprise that has to do with Tesla. Panasonic had a booth at CES and in their booth was just a Model S.
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  • 1/1/2015
    guest
    Imagine if Panasonic announced that they are opening their new battery production line very soon.
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  • 1/1/2015
    guest
    So what are everyone's price predictions for next week? Mine is 165, I know Sleepy thinks I'm nuts, and he's right!

    This extended $150 base I think will provide a nice launch pad for a pretty big bull run... If we get at least 2 catalyst. If we get more than two, including NHTSB giving the all clear IMO the sky is the limit if the short interest is still crazy high. Again I'd like to provide my general disclaimer of "I'm crazy".
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  • 1/1/2015
    guest
    I think there is a small chance for a 10%-15% move next week and I have placed my bets just in case it does happen. It will require some great news though in order to happen.

    Just understand that any weeklies you buy is just speculative gambling. The odds still favor only a minor move for TSLA, though I am hoping for more.

    Good luck to all TSLA investors.
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  • 1/1/2015
    guest
    I'm putting it at just about $160. Maybe $158
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  • 1/1/2015
    guest
    A little tweet just landed in my feed, some disappointing news for BMWi buyers in California, they may not get the sticker for the right to drive in carpool lane. IMO that car does not deserve to be in the same lane as Tesla

    TheStreet     ?@TheStreet    3h
    BMW Suffers Big Setback Against Tesla in California http://trib.al/PCkipLh
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  • 1/1/2015
    guest
  • 1/1/2015
    guest
    Bothers me when people talk about these cars as competitors, because they are not at all similar. Anyhow, good. White stickers are for ZEVs. An engine is not zero emissions. End of story. Get it with no engine of you want a white sticker.
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  • 1/1/2015
    guest
    Looks like TSLA is testing the 50 day moving avg.

    Bought more $155 Jan18's to DCA. Now it is just gambling, haha.

    Nothing I can't afford to lose and it is sort of a hedge against a hedge just in case there is a huge catalyst over the next week. Have a ton of covered calls that I don't want to risk expiring ITM.
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  • 1/1/2015
    guest
    Shaping up to be an interesting day. As with all investing, did not see this one coming. I see no news that would cause this. Programmed selling?
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  • 1/1/2015
    guest
    It could also be that the market knows that Tesla does not have any big announcements at the NAIAS. You never know until after the fact with perfect hindsight.
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  • 1/1/2015
    guest
    Ouch, this morning's drop caught me by surprise. I have a maintenance call on my account. Never had that before and hadn't really thought about it. I'm not actually borrowing since most of my margin was eaten selling very long term TSLA puts (2015). I've shifted about 1/2 my TSLA, at one point, from stock to LEAPS and I don't think those help from the maintenance point of view.

    Edit: dumped a long term put I'd sold, that freed a lot of margin and satisfies the maintenance requirements. Made a slight profit at least as I sold it in when the stock was at $140 a while back.

    Freed up far more margin than I needed, but it's good to be far away from that edge. Now the question is do I use a very small portion of that to double down on the Jan 18th options. Not having any clue why the stock dropped makes it hard to judge. No news that I can see, but then TSLA often moves a lot without much news.
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  • 1/1/2015
    guest
    I couldn't resist some weekly options. With a little bit of news next week it has to track up a little. Or so I hope... Except now it is down even more.
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  • 1/1/2015
    guest
    I hope it doesn't break the 50 day moving average.
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