Nov 27, 2014
Jgdixon I saw the entered production notification yesterday. Grey next gen seats.
Just updated the sheet.�
Nov 27, 2014
andrewket You entered 12/26. I took the liberty of changing it to 11/26
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Nov 27, 2014
3s-a-charm That's exciting! I would probably have been in the same queue as you but I told them I am on holidays Dec. 12-23 and can't take delivery until after that.�
Nov 27, 2014
mesalum Congrats. I cannot wait to see that on My Tesla. I have the P85 version of your P85D. I am suppose to go into production next week.�
Nov 27, 2014
gpetti I might get mine just before the 12th but I imagine they wouldn't want to take a risk on it slipping.
It really is exciting. In away I'm glad that I gave up my "old" P85 early. I'm really looking forward to the p85D now, almost like I've never driven a Tesla before. It is very coolly to think that the car exists now- somewhere in Fremont.�
Nov 27, 2014
lolachampcar gpetti,
Wow.... Owner reviews are now just around the corner�
Nov 27, 2014
gpetti You know it. Not sure I'll be the first but I'll take requests on any questions or pictures. Maybe take it on a romp through some snowy hills.�
Nov 27, 2014
Jgdixon Oops, thanks!�
Nov 27, 2014
wk057 Still in production, 8 days from now until scheduled delivery in NJ (Devon, PA). We'll see...�
Nov 27, 2014
gpetti I really don't understand how mine can be finished and yours not - they are virtually identical and started at almost the same time. I've always been under the assumption that the production start and production complete events were automatically changed on the dashboard, i.e. they are not dependent on the relative efficiency of the DS personnel; however, this makes no sense in our current situation unless they shut the line down for the holidays and mine sneaked through before the shut down. Seems unlikely.
Not that I'm complaining
My P85+ seemed to take an exceptionally long time (more than the advertised time) when I ordered it so I'm enjoying this fast track!�
Nov 27, 2014
GonzoDad Perhaps they only take Thanksgiving off for the US vehicles. ;-) Congrats, beautiful car!�
Nov 27, 2014
pdx Sorry for the delay, on vacation right now Mine updated to Production Complete later last night (between 6pm and 8pm PST). If all goes well I'll take delivery on Tuesday!�
Nov 27, 2014
andrewket I hate you. I mean, great�
Nov 27, 2014
pdx �
Nov 27, 2014
PlanB Shut up!.....I am taking my loaner back on tuesday, I am so going to ispy your car!�
Nov 27, 2014
wk057 Still in production here�
Nov 28, 2014
OConnorStP End of line date -- accurate prediction?
Today (11/28) was the day that my car was supposed to reach "end of line" and start production. It's going to be interesting to see how accurate that prediction was. No status-change this morning, so maybe tonight. Or maybe I got caught in the "not black seats" time vortex. Are there any folks who've gone into production that also knew their end of line date? I'd be curious to see if there's any pattern.�
Nov 28, 2014
andrewket My EOL was 12/1. Went into production on 11/25, tan seats. I did ask if my car could be moved up because I'm traveling later in the month and won't be back until January, and the original delivery date was within a few days of our departure. For revenue recognition for Tesla as well as tax purposes for me it's possible I was moved up. I was originally told that it was not possible to move the build forward a week, but perhaps someone canceled.�
Nov 28, 2014
Aargau - - - Updated - - -
I called my DS and said someone could have my spot (ie push back a week) as the family has an unexpected trip to Carnegie Hall in NYC 12th-15th.�
Nov 28, 2014
MarcG Same scenario here, except black next-gen seats.
By the way I got an automated email this morning from Tesla with the subject line stating "Your Estimated Model S Delivery Date".
I got excited for a second, then when I read the content it just said "December". Thanks for the news flash!�
Nov 28, 2014
dbw77 Sorry if it's been cleared up already, I searched and I couldn't find it.
I see some people say EOL is when it should reach the end of production, and some (like above) say end of line and start production.
Which is it. If it's starting production, what "line" is it the end of?
Seems more intuitive that EOL = end of production and exits the production line into QA/delivery...�
Nov 28, 2014
randompersonx Think of it is way. You go to the DMV, there is a long line. You get on the end of the line. The front of the line is the guy about to be served. For cars end of line is start of production.�
Nov 28, 2014
andrewket It's start of production, and it's the WEEK of production, not the exact day. So EOL of 12/1 means the car will begin production anywhere between 12/1 and 12/7.�
Nov 28, 2014
gpetti Talked to my DS and my car will arrive in Vancouver next week - possibly as early as Monday. Given the possibility of getting my car sooner, I'm going to skip the delivery process in Vancouver and have them just deliver it to Calgary ASAP. Means I could have my car in Calgary by Thursday or Friday (4th or 5th).�
Nov 28, 2014
stevezzzz Carnegie Hall? Sounds like a story there: do tell.�
Nov 28, 2014
PlanB That's awesome, maybe your car is on PDX's same truck. We are supposed to have crappy snowy weather here for the next few days so hopefully that will not slow down the delivery trucks.�
Nov 28, 2014
sundoc Thats awesome!!
Can't wait for your initial reviews, pics etc!�
Nov 28, 2014
dbw77 Thanks, I was thinking of the "production line" which is where the car is being built, so end of line seemed to mean the end of the production line, i.e finished. Thanks for the explanation.�
Nov 28, 2014
Aargau I was only somewhat aware of the consequences of my 15 year old daughter entering an international vocal competition for the American Fine Arts Festival, as a surprising winner in the classical/opera category she's slated to sing solo in the smallest hall there. Good for college applications for sure.
Definitely worth pushing back delivery of the P85D.�
Nov 28, 2014
Vger You have your priorities straight, that is for sure! :smile:�
Nov 28, 2014
gpetti I'm not so sure, it's a P85D! :smile:�
Nov 28, 2014
pdx Just don't drool directly on car.
Just heard back from my DS. Here's what he said:
Your car is in the final stages of production. Being one of our first Dual Motor cars, there is an intensive inspection process that is happening. I am currently waiting for the car to be released for transportation. Once it is on a truck we will have a clear picture of when the car can be delivered. Our factory is closed for the holiday weekend, so I imagine the car will be inspected and released on Monday.
So it may not be there Tuesday which is okay... They can take their time with it. I want it done right�
Nov 28, 2014
PlanB Doesn't surprise me, it will most likely be the following week!�
Nov 28, 2014
PlanB Did you order the next gen seats?�
Nov 28, 2014
pdx Yes. If you look at Andrew's spreadsheet I actually picked the most common configuration. Grey, black next gen, carbon, grey wheels.�
Nov 28, 2014
PlanB Nice!�
Nov 28, 2014
gpetti oh crap. Mine virtually flew off the line. Wonder if they slowed down after mine and I'll get some frankenstein car. Oh well! Still excited!�
Nov 28, 2014
andrewket It's 8:29p and my car is still in production.
It's 8:34p and my car is still in production.
It's .. Oh look, a pot of boiling water.�
Nov 28, 2014
Firewired As nerve racking as it is, I think it may be worse to keep checking and see "your car has entered the production queue."�
Nov 28, 2014
PlanB Who's going to be the first to start a "P85D Issues" thread?�
Nov 28, 2014
Aargau I think some of the internet trolls who don't actually have a car tried to twice...
That being said, this forum has been invaluable in crowdsourcing information. Very happy to have joined.�
Nov 28, 2014
stevezzzz It's a good story, complete with a happy ending. Congratulations to your daughter!�
Nov 29, 2014
lolachampcar Relax, Tesla was just testing your PD's launch
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Nov 29, 2014
Cattledog Saw a bunch of DS on my Tuesday factory tour, probably all Ds for all I know. Enjoy everyone!�
Nov 29, 2014
EarlyAdopter Still "building" here since Monday. I'm picturing my car sitting near the end of the line for the last 3 days, almost done except for the last couple of parts. Probably just missing headlights and emblems.
I'd rather wait a little longer though and let some overworked factory folks get a much deserved break.�
Nov 29, 2014
NOLA_Mike I just don't want to find the turkey wishbone buried deep down one of the side panels...�
Nov 29, 2014
EarlyAdopter LOL. My thoughts exactly.�
Nov 29, 2014
Dallas1 Agreed! I'm so excited for all you guys about to finish production and get delivered, but some of us poor souls are helplessly wallowing around in the production queue!!�
Nov 29, 2014
3s-a-charm THAT is awesome! Reminds me of the doublemint commercials - double the fun!�
Nov 29, 2014
andrewket There is a sales associate somewhere who is wishing he/she worked on commission that day.�
Nov 29, 2014
Scothawk Wholeheartedly agree! Very exciting to see P85Ds about to roll of the production line. Bunch of us still anxiously awaiting our cars to be in production! Wish I knew the logistics of how TM decides which cars to build first. It's obviously not first come first served.�
Nov 29, 2014
redp85d Here is my logic just a guess. Get the parts then get the destination ( 2 known bottlenecks non-black next gen seats & destination distance from Fremont). Run these through an algorithm to maximize deliveries through Dec 31st !! In between do spare some cars to keep marketing and attract new customers.�
Nov 29, 2014
lolachampcar The first round of customers need to post the "instructions" they get when they pick up their cars. I find it curious that test drives are being done by "pilots" and customers are not permitted to drive the car and yet they are just going to turn the keys over to everyone a few short weeks later.
This is truly going to be fun�
Nov 29, 2014
bonaire Lola, i heard the same that P85D are not allowed to be test driven, only ride alongs. Will that be the case ongoing? Seems like a liability issue, perhaps, as this is a pretty substantial boost in hp from the P85+. Test drives would be a popular thing for people just wanting to take a crack at a few launches. They should at least let Model S owners do test drives in a P85D.�
Nov 29, 2014
randompersonx Perhaps the restriction on test drives is caused by pre production cars and insurance limitations?�
Nov 29, 2014
Rice390 Just joined this site. First time poster and excited to learn from yall. Had a p85+ lined up for delivery late October. After the D announcement I canceled my order and renewed for the P85D. Got pushed back to a "late December" delivery. Spoke with my tesla agent last week and he says he'd expect it to be delivered before Xmas. Will keep yall updated.
Metallic grey with 21" gray turbine wheels. Loaded top down except for the kiddie seats.�
Nov 29, 2014
andrewket Redox just reported on a different thread that his P85D is complete. He isn't on the P85D spreadsheet, so I thought I'd report it here.�
Nov 29, 2014
NOLA_Mike Apparently, Sparky (my current Model S) has "overheard" that she's about to get traded in for a new model and has decided to throw a little shot across the bow.
Aside from a water leak around the tail lamps early on, this is the first issue I've had in 1.5 years of ownership.�
Nov 29, 2014
gpetti Oddly enough I had exactly the same warning just before I sent mine back.�
Nov 29, 2014
lolachampcar Not sure what is behind the "you can not drive it" policy.
It does remind me a bit of people going for their driver's test here in Florida. It is all done in a lot behind the DMV building. I asked one of the inspectors why they do not go out on the road (as they did in ancient times when I got my ticket) and I was told it was not safe to do so. Really, it is not safe to drive with people on the street that you are in the process of giving a driver a license? It would be like the FAA refusing to fly with you while evaluating you for a pilot's license.
Strange world.�
Nov 29, 2014
NOLA_Mike I think it's nothing more than that there are only a few of these in existence at the moment and they don't want any "mishaps" that may take one of the few out of service. I would guess that 2 or 3 months down the road when they have "D's" a plenty that test drives will resume as they are for the other models now.
Mike�
Nov 29, 2014
sundoc Someone over at the Tesla forum mentioned meeting a person at the factory tour who is scheduled to pick up their D on Tues!
It begins�
Nov 29, 2014
andrewket I just received my final signed paperwork and request for payment. Getting closer!�
Nov 29, 2014
Andyw2100 I understand that logic.
Until they see that the person can drive, they don't want them driving on the street, where they could hurt other people. The fact that they are taking the test doesn't indicate any minimum level of skill.
That being said, in New York State the test for drivers' licenses are given on public streets. But I do understand the logic behind what the guy was saying to you about the situation in Florida.�
Nov 29, 2014
saltwater Greetings! I have been avidly reading these pages for two years, and my first Tesla, a P85D, entered production today! I look forward to sharing experiences with all of you.�
Nov 29, 2014
bonaire At motorcycle shops where they sell sport bikes, they do know that a good number of them will crash a new purchase within one mile of the store after purchase. Not a lot of them allow test rides. You want a Hayabusa, you have to buy it first. Hayabusa is Japanese for Paragrine Falcon.�
Nov 29, 2014
andrewket Congrats!�
Nov 29, 2014
PlanB Apparently there is a P85D on the way to the Portland show room, should be here next week.�
Nov 29, 2014
billarnett �
Nov 30, 2014
lolachampcar saltwater,
You are starting at the right end of the pool with your Tesla experience�
Nov 30, 2014
GetAmped Where am I in the queue if my VIN is "63041" and My Tesla has the message "Order Confirmed: Your Model S has entered the production queue at our factory..."? This message has been the same for 3 weeks.�
Nov 30, 2014
andrewket Your best bet to to ask your DS for your EOL date. Your VIN alone doesn't give you enough data. Once your dashboard changes to in production, it's roughly five days to build.�
Nov 30, 2014
randompersonx
Most at likely your car will stsrt being built in the next week. At the pace they have been going, the whole spreadsheet should be done in two weeks, and yours still requires a long shipping route.�
Nov 30, 2014
sundoc To give you a rough idea of when you can expect your car. Mine went into building stage on Nov.24 and the expect delivery date is Dec.15, so roughly about 3 weeks barring any setbacks/delays from EOL.
Got your winters yet?�
Nov 30, 2014
GetAmped @ sundoc
I purchased a set of 19" Hakka R2's that I was planning on swapping out the Pirelli's that will come with the Winter Tire set. When I asked the Toronto Service Centre about coordinating this, they told me that I would have to do it myself and that if I did that they will not be able to touch the rims for Alignments, Brakes, Suspension servicing etc. Don't understand this, so basically I can't have a proper winter tire without impacting servicing of the car?�
Nov 30, 2014
andrewket The policy in the US at least is that they won't mount or dismount non OEM tires or mount any tire on a bird party wheel. They will rotate wheels and perform alignments with aftermarket tires on the wheels, OEM or aftermarket. They will also swap wheels when changing for seasons.
So either the policy changed (don't think so), the policy is different in Canada (maybe), or the person at your service center is misinformed (my guess).�
Nov 30, 2014
sundoc @getamped
this is exactly what I've done... Got the base 19's from Tesla, Nokian R2s from Kal tire.
Spoke with the guys at Lawrence last week while picking up my rims. The only thing they WON'T do is mount or service that tire. Eg I get a flat, they'll tow my car there, take off the wheel but won't service the tire/rubber.
Spoke with both Jay and Scott (awesome guys!).�
Nov 30, 2014
GetAmped @ sundoc
So will Tesla mount the Winter Rims (with the Hakka's) onto your car and swap them out in the summer for your 21's?�
Nov 30, 2014
sundoc @getamped
No they won't. I've even pointed out that the setup I've got is the same as one offered at the European Tesla site... No luck.
I'm going to show up with my winter set and have a shop nearby swap them out for me... I was joking with my Mike (my owner advisor) that I may end up swapping them out myself in their parking lot! Haha
There are a couple of decent shops nearby, just waiting for a more confirmed date before setting something up there.�
Nov 30, 2014
3s-a-charm Awesome! Congratulations and good luck not biting all your finger nails to the nubs while you wait for your car to be delivered!
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I'm in the same boat as you... waiting for the status to change from "in queue" to "in production". My DS still says I'll get the car on or around Christmas Day which is when I want it anyways. Have you contacted your DS to understand why?
Also do Ontario cars still go through Vancouver or do they go up to Canada a different route?�
Nov 30, 2014
sundoc hmm good question. No idea at all. Anyone?�
Nov 30, 2014
andrewket My SC has done this without any problem.�
Nov 30, 2014
sundoc Yeah I've read that from several other owners, from what I understand they used to do it here as well as but won't any longer.�
Nov 30, 2014
sundoc From what I've researched, both for the D and cars in the past, the pirellis are a great dry, cold road performance tire... Not really suited for snowy conditions though.
Tons of great info both here as well as the Tesla forum on this.�
Nov 30, 2014
wk057 Well, exactly 5 days until scheduled delivery, cross-country from the factory, and car still shows as "In Production"... I'm guessing my delivery is going to be pushed back unless they actually already have it on a truck headed this way and the status just doesn't reflect that. I'll call my DS tomorrow I guess.�
Nov 30, 2014
andrewket This has happened in the past.�
Nov 30, 2014
sundoc I've read of ppl getting their cars delivered and the dashboard still showing building... Someone earlier on this thread had the same happen to them I belive.
Guess you never really know what's up until you are physically driving away in your MS�
Nov 30, 2014
wk057 Well, I'm on vacation and I'm working in a trip back to do the pickup/trade whenever it will be ready. Plan is to leave here and head to Devon, PA to get the P85D, and then I'll just drive the P85D back here and continue my vacation. So, as long as I have a solid date/time I'm in good shape. I just don't want to end up going back north only to find out I'll be hanging around for several days waiting on the car.�
Nov 30, 2014
Jgdixon I have the Pirelli's and like most here we haven't been happy with them in the snow.
For my P85D I couldn't get the Hakka's so bought Michelin X ice and putting them on Tesla 19" rims.
I have heard Tesla won't deal with anything but the Pirelli's. I can understand not wanting to mount or balance non Tesla rims but don't get the non Pirelli issue. We have heard it is because of wear issues with regen or not guaranteeing the same range etc.
I have never heard about them refusing to do alignments etc. I will get clarity this week.
If Tesla sticks with this policy we should write Jerome to get an official position. Especially since they endorse the Hakka's with studs in Europe.�
Nov 30, 2014
sundoc They actual even offer a package with the R2s (the non studded variety of the Hakka's). The second winter set being offered Nokians Hakka R2s:
Model S Design-studio | Tesla Motors�
Nov 30, 2014
gpetti I doubt it. I think they ship the car to the nearest SC which for us Calgarians is Vancouver. Ontario has its own service center (not sure if there is more than one) so I would assume that the cars will come there direct. Basically each delivered car has to come into a SC to be checked and prepped - and usually that is where the delivery will occur if the owner can come to that location.�
Nov 30, 2014
Rice390 Dumb question - how do I go about adding my order onto the Google doc? I expect delivery before Xmas.�
Nov 30, 2014
GonzoDad You should be able to add your details to the first blank row at bottom. Desktop browser is probably safest.�
Nov 30, 2014
Cottonwood Also, 2 years ago, Tesla offered the Hakka 7's as an option for the MS. I picked up a set of Tesla Rims from someone upgrading to the T-Sportlines, then bought the Hakka R2's from Discount Tire. For Black Friday, Discount Tire sold me the R2s for $225 each and the TPMS for $40 each, free mounting, paid for dynamic balance.�
Nov 30, 2014
breser I wonder where this idea got started about the Pirellis.
I did some research on the tires. The thing that stood out to me was the Consumer Reports ratings for Winter tires. Michelin X-Ice Xi3, Michelin X-ice Xi2, Hankook i*cept evo, Pirelli Winter 210 Sottozero Serie II, Uniroyal Tiger Paw Ice & Snow II, and Bridgestone Blizzak WS70 all get the recommended flag. Nokian Hakkapeliitta R does not. If you look at Performance Winter Tires then the Nokian WR G3, Michelin Pilot Alpin PA4 and Nokian Hakkapeliitta R2 get the recommended flag and the Pirelli do not (which are listed as Prelli Sottozero Winter 240 Serie II).
I'm not sure what the difference between the 240 and the 210 are. They end up having very different ratings. But my impression from these ratings is that the Pirelli is a good winter tire. In extreme conditions the Michelin or the Nokian might be better.
If you look on these forums there are several different winter tire threads. You'll find plenty of people who have the Pirellis and are happy with them along with all the other tires.
In my own case I decided to get the Tesla set because the Pirellis do better in wet conditions and are better at avoiding hydroplanning, which is the conditions I see mostly in the winter here in the Seattle area. But I still think the Pirellis will be a ton better than leaving the all seasons on all year.�
Nov 30, 2014
Jgdixon I think the answer is determined by the normal winter weather where you live. I've had 2 seasons on the Pirelli's and while they are fine in the wet and on packed snow, they are almost useless if driving on even the slightest incline when there is any accumulation of snow. You can find many threads discussing this in the past. The tires should be our choice and Tesla should not decline wheel, tire and suspension service because we don't conform to their wishes.�
Nov 30, 2014
sundoc So... based on the spreadsheet and entered production dates, I'd anticipate a slew of cars to change status Monday and Tuesday, lest see how it goes!�
Nov 30, 2014
gg_got_a_tesla Indeed. Most of the DSs were out for Thanksgiving, it seems, and should be back in touch early this week with updates.�
Dec 1, 2014
andrewket Based on a build taking five days, I expected my car to be done last night or this morning. So far, at least according to the dashboard, it's still in production. This was with adding an extra day because of thanksgiving. Perhaps the factory was closed over the weekend as well?�
Dec 1, 2014
Firewired I am hoping for a lot of updates this morning.�
Dec 1, 2014
MarcG Same here Andrew, entered production on 11/25 and still not completed (although the dashboard could be behind).
When I took the factory tour last Tuesday I was told there would be "reduced hours" over thanksgiving but no specific details. I would add an extra 2 days to the *average* 5 days it normally takes for production. They also don't work Sundays if I remember correctly.�
Dec 1, 2014
pdx My DS said "Our factory is closed for the holiday weekend, so I imagine the car will be inspected and released on Monday."�
Dec 1, 2014
Andyw2100 I certainly agree with you that we should be able to choose our own tires.
That being said, I did go with the winter wheel package for my P85D about to be built. You seem to have a lot of first-hand experience with the Sottozero 2s. So let me ask you the following: I have a reasonably steep driveway. It definitely sounds like with new snow and a rear-wheel drive model S and the Sottozeros I'd have issues, but do you think the AWD will make enough of a difference to overcome the Pirellis' shortcomings and get me up my driveway in most situations before it has been plowed?
For comparison, I currently have a front-wheel drive 2004 Acura TL. With regular all-season tires I had issues in the snow, getting up the driveway. I very quickly bought a wheel and snow tire package from Tire Rack, with slightly different sized wheels and I believe Blizzak tires, and that made a huge difference. I can typically get up my driveway, perhaps with some wheel spinning, (so I have to turn off traction control) in up to four or five inches of fresh snow--possibly even a little more.
I had bought the Acura before buying the house, and had decided my next vehicle would be AWD. Obviously if I need to I will get different tires for the Tesla, but I'm wondering if you think the AWD and the Pirelli Sottozeros will get the job done. Other than my driveway, I'm not particularly concerned with "uphill in fresh snow."
Thanks!�
Dec 1, 2014
gpetti My car started on the 21st and finished on the 26th so either they were working on Saturday and Sunday or they now build in 4 days somehow. Either way it appears that they might have been closed more than one day on the Thanksgiving weekend.
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Sounds like this will be a great test for the AWD. I might test a few streets with the summer tires on initially (nothing dangerous) before I have my wheels swapped, just so I can get a sense of how well the AWD works. Ultimately I have Blizzak tires because of all the negative feedback on the Pirellis from other Canadian drivers. I bought 19" Rial Lugano wheels because they look very similar to the Tesla wheels. Note these wheels/tires were bought for the car I just traded in but I'm having them put on my P85D as soon as I can when it arrives. I asked Tesla if I could ship the wheels out to Vancouver with my trade in so they could swap out the wheels prior to delivery but they said no. I didn't bother arguing the point as I can get them done quite easily here; however, this may become a point of contention eventually.�
Dec 1, 2014
3s-a-charm I've had several different winter tires in the past. The Nokians were the best grip but the Pirelli's are better handling. I typically end up with Pirelli's as they are the only ones who make sizes that fit the larger performance wheels. Since Calgary (where I live) has severe winter weather cycled with "chinooks" (extremely quick warming periods) we end up with a mix of snow covered roads but "spring weather" driving conditions through periods in the winter. Pirelli's have been a good choice - never been stuck (well once actually but it was my fault, not the tires!) and enjoyed the performance when needed.
I think I may have to shut off the forums until delivery or I'll never get any work done! The wait is driving me crazy.�
Dec 1, 2014
Jgdixon Guys I just had it confirmed that Tesla will now do any work on our cars regardless of wheels or tires. We just have to sign a waiver.
As for the AWD in snow it should be much better but I'm not taking any chances and going with Michelin X ice.�
Dec 1, 2014
sundoc That's awesome! Thanks for following up on this.�
Dec 1, 2014
Cottonwood Also, remember that while AWD will help you start moving in the ice and snow, it does nothing (or with regen, little) to help you stop in an emergency situation.
That being said, I am looking forward to finding out how the regen interacting with the traction/stability control does on ice and snow. In years past, the Denver Tesla people have held an ice driving course/event on Georgetown Lake in Georgetown, CO. I hope that they do it again this winter.
When I was there three years ago with the Roadster, I got see first hand how absolutely horrible summer performance tires can be on wet, melting ice! The ice was plenty thick, but it was sunny and in the 40's, making for a very slippery, wet-ice surface.
Just looked up the Georgetown Lake stuff. Maybe a few Colorado owners should give this a try this winter. Notice how serious the "non-street legal" studs are...
This looks like fun for an x85D. They require 4WD or AWD. From Our Gang Question Answer
Can I crash into anything while I�m racing?
No. Heats are run with only 2 vehicles on the track at the same time. Each vehicle starts in their own gate, on opposite sides of the track, so no contact is ever made. No wheel to wheel racing is allowed at any time. Also, we do not have any solid barriers (walls, barricades, tires, bales, etc�) on the track to slide into. Anytime you are driving off the race course at our events you need to be at idle speed. This includes staging, the pit areas, the parking lots and after crossing the finish line. This is so crucial because we are on glare ice and there are lots of other drivers, spectators, pets, kids and equipment around you.?
What is the Rookie Race?
The Rookie Race is held on select Sundays and is for bare rubber participants. To register you must meet two requirements:
#1 � You must register and participate in the day�s Street or Pro Street bare rubber race.
#2 � You cannot have won any points or trophies with Our Gang in the last 3 years (2012, 2013 and 2014).?
Drivers who meet both requirements; can register for the Rookie Race for free. The Rookie Race will take place after all the regularly scheduled events have finished. Drivers will be paired just like any other race and will race to a top 5 finish. Only the first place winner of each Rookie Race will receive a prize. However, everyone that enters can earn points for the Rookie of the Year Championship which will be awarded at the Award Banquet in March. If there is a tie after the last Rookie Race of the Year; eligible drivers will race off for the over-all Championship.?�
Dec 1, 2014
GetAmped @ jgdixon
Thanks for the follow-up! Can you share who you spoke with so that we can hopefully get this confirmed for all SC's? Hopefully members at other SC's don't have issues.�
Dec 1, 2014
wk057 Spoke to my DS. Delivery pushed back to around the 10th since my car is still in "the final stages of production" as of now. Oh well...�
Dec 1, 2014
NOLA_Mike That sounds more in line and consistent with what I'm hearing (week of the 8th for delivery in Houston).
Mike�
Dec 1, 2014
commasign Refreshing the webpage every 30 seconds doesn't seem to be helping this time.
Scheduled for delivery Thursday. Seems like it will be ok as long as car finishes inspection and testing today or tomorrow, then 1 day in transit to Rocklin.�
Dec 1, 2014
Firewired Interesting how production starts have slowed dramatically after the first group of cars for the most part.�
Dec 1, 2014
commasign I can imagine all the factory workers are taking turns "testing" the cars on the track. "Uh... I think we should keep it another day or two just to make sure there's nothing wrong with it..."�
Dec 1, 2014
wk057 I'll chalk that up to the holiday weekend probably.�
Dec 1, 2014
redp85d C'mon guys. As long as we get the car this year it should not be a problem for most. As for leases it really does not matter Dec or Jan. I'd rather take a car made and delivered by a happy worker than someone missing/not enjoying the best time of the year with family and making our cars. It really does not tell anything on Tesla's stock or capability whether we get by in Dec or Jan. So chill, be nice and Santa will take care :smile:�
Dec 1, 2014
MarcG Oh man, I was really hoping someone would get delivery of his/her P85D before we hit 100 pages on this thread... doesn't look like it happened!
Are you still showing "In Production" or are you already at "Production Complete"?�
Dec 1, 2014
Jgdixon Trust me this is 100% confirmed. I will not provide a name although suffice to say you will be good at either Toronto location.
I was told this is company wide so if you are concerned just call your SC.�
Dec 1, 2014
Scothawk Phew......"In production"! Will add to spreadsheet!�
Dec 1, 2014
GetAmped @ jgdixon
Before seeing your reply, I called the Mississauga SC and they confirmed what you had heard and shared with us. Now there are two witnesses! I plan now on buying the 19" rims and TPMS's and taking them to Kal Tire to get the Hakka R2's installed (I purchased the tires last month). As long as I can purchase the rims, I will then be cancelling my Winter Tire Package that I purchased that was going to come with the car from what Fremont Sales told me.�
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