Thứ Tư, 30 tháng 11, 2016

Air Suspension now a requirement for 6/7 seats? What about 75D orders? part 4

  • May 26, 2016
    Merrill
    Reserved 6/14, confirmed 1/17/16 6 seat and everything except sub-zero and 22's no vin.
  • May 26, 2016
    Diavel
    91xx.

    Came in today. No email yet
  • May 26, 2016
    ssq
    913X assigned, Yay!!
  • May 26, 2016
    mlouie23
    91XX today! A few days ago, my very good DS also said I'm sequenced for production within the first two weeks of July.

    Do you think that means end of July or beginning of August delivery?

    I feel official now :)
  • May 27, 2016
    shadows
    901x assigned today. Still shows the original config though!
  • May 27, 2016
    Shuji
    yesterday, assigned 914X. when i saw that my design specs only included the SAS upgrade, i contacted the inside sales guy that originally contacted me about upgrading to SAS. he said he'd forward on my issue and my design spec was updated within 3 hours. now all 3 changes (SAS, 22" wheels, and accessory hitch) have been added.
  • May 27, 2016
    Shuji
    See above post.
  • May 27, 2016
    Poiuy09
    Thanks @Shuji
    Just called inside sales and initially the rep read out all changes and said it will get updated in 2-3 weeks. On further pressing for confirmation, he talked to some one and said it will get updated today.
  • May 27, 2016
    asdfasdf
    just got an email with a MVPA
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  • May 27, 2016
    jason1466
    Me too, so probably all 75Ds. My MVPA in my docs includes an invoice with payment details, the order agreement was added today presumably at same time as this email.
  • May 27, 2016
    wang5150
    I am probably one of the few that didn't go for the SAS upgrade... still no VIN for me but I'm happy to see 75Ds on the production queue with delivery dates.
  • May 27, 2016
    fengshui
    Not here yet. I still just have the same Order Agreement/MVPA that I've had since December. It still lists a 70D, and no SAS or Towing.
  • May 28, 2016
    bird2730
    I am in the same boat, no vin and no sas yet.
  • May 28, 2016
    ssq
    Update : as of this morning, myTesla is completely up to date with all applicable changes on config and pricing. I had figured ash which was an upgrade $750 option, now I chose matte Obeche and Tesla removed the $750 while giving lowered pricing on SAS and towing. We got a very good deal people, 75D gratis, new price book for trim, while lowered prices for SAS, and no penalty for changes. Yes the wait has been long but the ~5k savings isn't hurting.
  • May 28, 2016
    shadows
    The design spec has been updated, but the order agreement still shows the original config for me.
  • May 28, 2016
    Diavel
    Mine is updated everywhere. Still no email however.
  • May 28, 2016
    Terthen
    Seems like just you and me! I didn't go for the upgrade either, i've got enough maintenance things to worry about with the FWD... given what we read about coil, my wife wouldn't go for the SAS thinks coil will be just fine for us.
  • May 29, 2016
    beths11
    Glad to see some coil support. Perhaps someone should start a "coil thread" to track progress with coil orders? I am coils and 5 seats..the wait continues. Yes, it is good to see 75D getting VINs and delivery dates.
  • May 29, 2016
    abikepeddler
    We also skipped the SAS upgrade offer. Having owned a number of air suspension equipped vehicles I have learned my lesson. Costly repairs and handling that can feel a bit "wallowy" have turned me off this suspension design. it is great for towing however as load-leveling is very handy to have. if I remember right it cost me $1,850 per corner to replace both front air struts on our w211 Mercedes Benz E 55 AMG wagon.
  • May 29, 2016
    wang5150
    75D Coils Unite! Maybe one of us can post as separate thread when you get a VIN for your 75D Coil.
  • May 29, 2016
    Uncle Paul
    Have a 5 seat and coil config. With all I have read, I am thinking I will end up getting one of the first 2017 models :(
  • May 30, 2016
    Diavel
    What year was your amg 55 wagon and when were the struts replaced?
  • May 30, 2016
    Diavel
    Look at it this way, you will be first for highest resale due to year and will keep it the longest by date and value. Plus there have been many X's to market so quality, fit and finish would be more consistent.
  • May 30, 2016
    abikepeddler
    We had a 2005 model and the front right strut went out first at around 70,000 miles. The driver's side front followed around 72,000 miles. (at least they were consistent.) Now age also has to be factored in to the failure of both components as they were right at 7 years old at the time of failure. For those of you that do not know or have not seen one of these air suspension units, they essentially have a big comma rubber air bladder about the size of a small soccer ball in place of where a normal coil spring would reside. Time, environment and use take their toll on the rubber compound which can break down eventually causing cracking in the rubber itself which leads to air loss and failure of the suspension. Air suspensions fail in one of two ways. Either they get a small leak and the air pump is able to inflate the bladder when the car is started allowing the car to reach normal operating height or they fail catastrophically, like my passenger side front did, and the car has to be towed for repairs. I walked in the I walked in the garage one morning and a car is looking like a dog that knows it did something wrong, all leaned down on its right front laying it's nose to the cement. Sorry to repeat information that many of you already know, figured there are people reading these posts that may not know some of this information.
  • May 30, 2016
    captaintessie
    I have an 8 year warranty on my S and wouldn't dare skimp on getting the 8 year warranty on the X.

    If you're worried about the SAS I can't imagine what you think the Falcon Wings will cost to replace.
  • May 30, 2016
    Diavel

    Better response than expected. Thanks! If extended warranty is purchased and everything being equal, we'd be covered through tesla.

    Problem is if it break after warranty. Uhoh
  • May 30, 2016
    Diavel
    Me too. Though i think the extended warranty on my S is not worth it, I would definitely get it with the X
  • May 30, 2016
    abikepeddler
    Agreed. From speaking to other Model S owners they seem to have had good ownership reliability experiences. Extended warranty is looking more and more like unneeded expense for those owners. The model X however seems to be a difference Beast. In fact I just saw Elon send out a tweet in response to brand new model X that failed to even last its first day in the hands of its new owner before failing to operate...

    Tweet:
    Lisa [email�protected]
    @elonmusk took delivery of my X yesterday. Undrivable witin 6 hrs. Towed to svc center. No update yet from anyone at Tesla. Help please.

    Elon's response was typically galant in stating it would be looked into. And that is what makes me feel confident in this young company. They do seem to care about their product.
  • May 31, 2016
    Tgibson
    I looked this morning and my Design Spec and MVPA have both been updated to reflect SAS and one other change I made in the recent call campaign. It was updated on 5/29. VIN 866X, upgraded to SAS on 5/9, reserved November 2012, and ordered on 12/1/15.
  • May 31, 2016
    tropical1
    Anyone change the wood trim during the SAS campaign? My build sheet is now updated but they charged me from changing matte Obeche to figured ash ($750). Does this seem right? I know it costs $750 now but on my original build matte obeche was included. All other charges look good.
  • May 31, 2016
    Poiuy09
    Yes. I changed the wood trim. I asked during the change call if there would be any additional cost and was told that there would not be any. However I saw the $750 added cost today and called Tesla sales. They cannot take it off as it was price of that trim when we originally configured.
  • May 31, 2016
    tropical1
    Thanks for the update and saving me a call. My vin is 88x so now just need to determine when they are anticipating we will get it.
  • May 31, 2016
    ssq
    Yes. I changed from dark ash to matte obeche and was refunded $750.
  • Jun 1, 2016
    captaintessie
    Just Docusigned my purchase paperwork from Tesla via an email. My DS did not contact me.

    Not sure what it means, if anything, as far as timetables.
  • Jun 1, 2016
    Diavel
    Sigh... Still no email or mvpa. Vin arrived when everybody got theirs. Funny how captaintessie and i confirmed our x within 3 days of each other.
  • Jun 1, 2016
    flyhigh123
    for what its worth i got my email mvpa a few days ago noting the changes
  • Jun 1, 2016
    shadows
    Got the email today as well!
  • Jun 9, 2016
    ssq
    Anybody else got their MVPA or any word email or updates from their DS ever since the VINs got assigned?
  • Jun 10, 2016
    tropical1
    Crickets. I was hoping to get an update on production but nothing so far. No changes to my tesla page either.
  • Jun 10, 2016
    BrianD
    I'm not sure what the MVPA is - some sort of official purchase agreement? My VIN showed up on 5/24. I received the "Your order has been modified" email on 6/6 as well as the updated Order Agreement in My Tesla.

    I reached out to my DS and he had this to say:

    "The estimated time frame for production to end is late June. Sometimes this changes and with the 75kw going into production, I could expect it to change a few times. I don�t want to promise June, and give you inaccurate information. However, this very we�ll could stick to these time lines or even be sooner!"

    Late July seems more probable to me.
  • Jun 10, 2016
    Merrill
    I received an email from my DS saying I could have my model X delivered end of June or beginning of July. Then he sent me another email wanting me to clarify how I was going to pay and if I had a trade in. Not holding my breath, but July would be good.
  • Jun 10, 2016
    ssq
    Oh wow that's awesome!! I see you confirmed before me but your VIN is about 900+ after mine. And then you have PUP. Given all that, I am now confused when should I expect delivery. Did you get your MVPA sent via division? If so, when?
  • Jun 10, 2016
    Bishop
    i just did mine last night and didn't have a choice but to get it ... i don't need it but in order to get it sometime this year i needed to get the 6 seater and it added it automatically
  • Jun 10, 2016
    ssq
    MVPA - Motor Vehicle Purchase agreement. If you log in to MyTesla and scroll down you would see a bunch of documents shared by Tesla and some uploaded by you (license, insurance etc). MVPA is the agreement.odf if I recall correctly and all these files have dates next to them (last updated). A TMC friend told me he got his MVPA sent via docusign to sign off on the purchase agreement. This was couple of weeks back and he has a VIN within 200 of mine, his X has PUP. @Merrill also has PUP and his order seems to be moving fast.
  • Jun 10, 2016
    Merrill
    My MVPA is still from 6/1/16 and does not show the total including sales tax and license.
  • Jun 10, 2016
    ssq
    "Still from 6/1/16". Look at mine :)
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  • Jun 10, 2016
    BrianD
    I was in the same boat as you with the agreement not being updated (nor design specs) almost 2 weeks after receiving VIN. It took a few emails to my inside sales contact but the Design Specs and Order Agreement were both updated on 6/6 for me. I have not received anything to sign via DocuSign.
  • Jun 10, 2016
    captaintessie
    My MVPA shows a 6/1 date also but is 8 pages long with taxes, license, etc. They also sent me a Docusign MVPA to sign on the same day which I completed immediately.

    Another email showed up on 6/2 saying "Your purchase paperwork is complete"

    No communication since.
  • Jun 10, 2016
    ssq
    Update: Possibility of delivery end of month, surely within next 30 days.
  • Jun 10, 2016
    Stasla
    That's great, but what's the probability?
    :p
  • Jun 10, 2016
    wang5150
    Still nothing for 75D coils 6 seat... sigh.
  • Jun 10, 2016
    ssq
    Oh glad you asked, very simple and the same as :-
    probability(probability( this post being probably accurate)) * probability(DS being accurate) * probability(Tesla manufacturing being accurate) * probability(suppliers being on time) * probability(earth being at the perigee of the closest equinox next to the solstice that follows)
  • Jun 10, 2016
    wang5150
    So, you're telling me there's a chance that 60% of the time that it works every time...
  • Jun 10, 2016
    ssq
    Everytime ! 60% of the times.
    Probability so beautiful its iillegal in 25 states #XPanther. There.. that's my Xs name.
  • Jun 10, 2016
    Poiuy09
    Same update from my DS. June delivery probable. If not, definitely July.
    Read above 3 posts on probability for June delivery.
  • Jun 10, 2016
    Bishop
    so from what my DS told me they have people who cancel orders if theres is close to yours without changing they can move your delivery up .. however since i ordered a 75D im not holding my breath
  • Jun 13, 2016
    ssq
    Has anyone heard of their X being in production or otherwise after VIN assignment? If we are told about the possibility of June delivery isn't it getting a bit late for the cars to go in production ? Or is that not even reflected on myTesla?
  • Jun 13, 2016
    DuplexDianne
    Download the Tesla app, if your car has been turned "on" I heard you can track its movement!
  • Jun 13, 2016
    ccutrer
    MyTesla is not being updated for Model X. It will continue to say in production queue until it is actually delivered. Reach out to your DS and ask for the scheduled date to go in to production. It seems like they have production time down to a week or less in good cases, so for a California delivery you probably have about another week to start production to still get a June delivery.

    My X is in "the very early stages of production" as of today (info from my DS). I'm assuming that means body-in-white. MyTesla still hasn't changed, and no real MVPA, even though I've been advised to arrange financing, and Alliant has requested it.
  • Jun 13, 2016
    ssq
    I downloaded the app 3 years back ...let's just leave it at that...:(:oops:
  • Jun 13, 2016
    ssq
    I got preapproval done at Alliant this afternoon. Not sure of the latest status though, whether my X is in production or not. I was told last week I should expect delivery in 30 days, june end or early July latest. Few others have been advised of the same timeline. I hope Tesla meets the deadline for else my preapproval be credit inquiry is toast!
  • Jun 13, 2016
    ccutrer
    Heh, I got my pre approval today too! Now that I've at least started the production gauntlet I'm less worried about getting the car in time. And if you're really worried about another credit hit, you could always pay (and start making payments) before delivery, right?
  • Jun 13, 2016
    ssq
    Brandon @alliant helping you?
    Hmm..yes I could start making payments if that's permitted. That's a decent idea but would they even issue a check and "activate" the loan without an actual car beung delivered. I got to ask.
  • Jun 13, 2016
    ccutrer
    Dunno. Being a Utah resident I have to pay for my car before they ship it, so it seems similar.
  • Jun 14, 2016
    3mp_kwh
    P85s first offered coil suspensions in the second half of 2013, I think. P85D production was rolling for 3-4 months, before ~March '15 coil production began. I had and cancelled an original P85D order, when that SAS campaign told me I'd be delayed for months if I stuck with coil. I don't know how seats influence the delay. I can attest to another "boat load" of Model X's in Dedham, MA, last night, with none having less than "90" on the back and all (that I could tell through dark tinting) having 6, or 7, seat configs.
  • Jun 14, 2016
    wang5150
    @ssq I was pre-approved by Alliant last week and I simply cc'd my DS on my reply to Alliant. Alliant said they would reach out to my DS to track delivery dates and final amount, etc.

    And, I still don't have VIN assignment since I opted out of the SAS upgrade campaign. I hope you will get yours by end of June. I'm guessing September for mine... doubt it would affect my credit inquiry because of the delay, but I've got plenty of Nutella for the toast.
  • 1/1/2015
    guest
    Bump...Still no coil MX75D. Sad! :-(
  • 1/1/2015
    guest
    That is what I was thinking, they may want to address the potential for added weight of passengers, #6 & 7 could add anywhere for 200-400 or 500+ depending on size of adults in back, and a little weight for the rear A/C that is in the back area.
  • 1/1/2015
    guest
    Is the discounted SAS option still being offered to those who ordered coils? I took advantage of it at the time at $1250... not too bad
  • 1/1/2015
    guest
    I think if I called my DS I could still get that and possibly more ... but I want coil! Also, kinda waiting for Autopilot V2 to drop, so the wait isn't killing me yet.
  • 1/1/2015
    guest
    I'm also waiting for coil. I refuse to pay for SAS. How could it take this long? Are they trying to see who will give in first? I don't think there are many of us left. The only silver lining is ap v2.0.
  • 1/1/2015
    guest
    I ended up giving in last month. Original config was 70d, white, autopilot, 6 seater, accessory hitch, black multipattern seats. No SAS or PUP. They did still offer me the $1250 off. The reason for me was that I wanted to upgrade to leather seats. They would not waive the change fee though even though my car was nowhere near the production queue. It would have been $2500 for leather + $500 change fee, or $1250 for SAS + $2500 for leather seats so in effect $750 more for SAS. I actually ended up downgrading to the 60D though because the range is plenty for us. At that point I had to pay current pricing and they would not let me just create a new order and receive the $1000 referral credit, so slightly unhappy that I put in a $5000 deposit months early, and now am ending up paying $1000 more than someone who is ordering the car today... but overall $1000 cheaper than my original config.

    As I have no idea when AP 2.0 is coming out... I asked to delay delivery hoping Monday's AP announcement would include a hint of 2.0, but now I guess I'll just have to move forward and hope my car isn't obsolete in 6 months (or maybe it is already!).

    Good luck to all you holding out for coil! I check periodically to see if they remove that requirement... Waiting for coil and getting hardware for AP 2.0 would definitely be worth the wait.
  • 1/1/2015
    guest
    I'm sorry folks but wtf is "coil" ???
  • 1/1/2015
    guest
    Standard non-air suspension. :D
  • 1/1/2015
    guest
    If there was as great an amount of lift/drop as our old POS RangeRover, one might consider it more seriously.
    .
  • 1/1/2015
    guest
    I didn't think of that...AP v 2.0... would definitely make waiting for coil suspension worth it. Thanks!

    Also nice to see there are at least two others out there in the same boat. Hahaha.
  • 1/1/2015
    guest
    I did the upgrade of $1250. I plan on getting the extended warranty due to being an early adopter, fwd, motorized seats, drive unit replacement on my s, and much others so I'm not worried about reliability of air susp.

    i hope to get part of that investment back on resale as well.

    I have no regrets as I can change the driving dynamics significantly. When running over rough surfaces, I can raise suspension (gps remembers it too) for a smoother ride and when on the freeway with curves I can lower the suspension for a tight handling feel as opposed to a higher center of gravity. This really makes a difference kind of like driving a car vs a tall suv.

    Being that I have the 20" wheels, I find that the bulbous appearance of the X is far too large for the wheels and helps very much in the aesthetic department when on a lowered stance while parked. My kid and mom would also appreciate the lowered vehicle to get in and out of.

    My experience with coil is a bumpier ride (especially on speed bumps) with no choice. With the air I have 5 settings and absolutely love it. I don't post much nowadays but wanted to give my $0.02

    Way way way worth the $1250 imho.

    One more thing, the X on its lowest setting is similar to the S in a high setting (so I've read here) which gives you an idea of its handling properties. On its high setting its sinilar to a tall suv and on its very high setting will allow me to even go off road. If you're getting extended warranty, just do it.
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