Nov 17, 2014
andrewket I received two more emails today. The first one was "Your Model S Configuration Change". The second about an hour later "Document has been posted to your MyTesla". The document is titled "delivery configuration", which is yet another (third?) listing of my P85D config. I did make a change from gloss to matte, but that was done a few weeks ago and I had already received a confirmation of that change. So I have no idea what this "change" was. The one difference is the delivery configuration lists 10/9 as the electronically confirmed date, whereas the earlier version listed 10/24, the date of the re-confirm when the options changed.
Who knows...
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Ugh, just noticed this article..
http://www.bidnessetc.com/29315-tesla-motors-tsla-revs-up-discounts-on-model-s/1/
The article gets a few things wrong:
1/ P85D starting delivery in Feb. No, it's December.
2/ The new autopilot etc features are available with the 2015 Model S. No, it's available now, and has been delivering since October with 2014 Model S.
I don't plan on selling my P85D any time soon, but I sure hope resale doesn't become a problem for the handful of 2014 P85D's. "It isn't one of the new models".�
Nov 17, 2014
lolachampcar Yea, and I did not plan on selling my P+.................
I waited a month and went for a 2015 ViN. Tesla insists there is no difference but, when it comes time to sell, buyers still see a difference between a 2014 and a 2015.�
Nov 17, 2014
wk057 No changes to My Tesla since 11/13 here...�
Nov 17, 2014
sundoc Got a call from the Mothership a little while ago.
They were wondering what my plans are for winter tires as the tires that D comes won't fare well in the winterSaid the car should be here in about a month! Once again falling along the same time frame I've been working with all along... lets hope it stays true to course!
I've got my Tesla 19's on order (were supposed to arrive last week) and have my Nokian R2s waiting... got a buyer (2 in fact) for the stock Pirellis.
As for the documents to be signed... I'll echo what someone else above posted, from my understanding that'll come closer to when the car is actually here.�
Nov 17, 2014
breser You realize you can order a set of standard 19" rims and TPMS for $1400 now. Probably saves you money over selling the Pirellis.�
Nov 17, 2014
sundoc I'd looked into this previously and here in Canada the pricing was whacky... it actually made sense to purchase the whole winter package and sell off the rubber separately. Yeah, it made no sense to me either!
But this was before the whole pricing change! Thanks for the reminder! I'll shoot an email out and see what the cost of purchasing just the rims is.�
Nov 17, 2014
gpetti No additional documents yet and i believe the timing of next documents might be DS dependent and possibly depending on financing arrangements.
I asked Tesla if I ordered my own wheels/tires from tire rack and had them delivered to the vancouver service center, if they would swap them;however, they refused. As it happens I'm keeping my winter tires from my old car now as they only had a couple of months on them - Rial Luganos and blizzaks. I wanted the famous R2s that evy body raves about but they were sold out in February when I got my car. I'm sure blizzaks will be great with my new AWD.�
Nov 17, 2014
stevezzzz Finally got around to adding my data to the spreadsheet. Looks like I'm the only pilgrim who's chosen MCRed/GreyNG/ObGloss. I did see a photo of that combo, but never a car in the wild.�
Nov 17, 2014
shadowinstallz how do you order this? tesla direct?�
Nov 17, 2014
breser Service center. Prices on wheels and TPMS dropped when winter set dropped.�
Nov 17, 2014
ModelS1079 WHOOOA! I love Obeche Gloss - it holds a beautiful wood grain, deep in the sun, at once drawing in the tones of the leather and glossing to accent and match the touchscreen, harkens from its place in American History as the wood of the Gibson Guitar Fretboard, throws a subtle nod to Detroit in appreciation for a traditional finish, offsets the matte of the leather dash, and speaks of wood and grain, warmth and character, while carbon fiber watches over its plastic brim, wondering what it would be like to be...Obeche, Gloss.
So, I have the Obeche Gloss in my P1845 MS, as you might have guessed. Enjoy.�
Nov 17, 2014
ckessel Wow, when did this change? Didn't new 19" tires + rims cost $4000 not too long ago? I remember I picked up an almost new set (~50 miles of usage) from someone for $2000, minus TPMS, and it was still a significant discount at the time.�
Nov 17, 2014
EarlyAdopter I believe the Roadster motors may have been built by a contract manufacturer, but for Model S Tesla brought it all in-house. Motors, inverters, and gearboxes are all built by Tesla in Fremont, CA.�
Nov 17, 2014
ecarfan I correct. Tesla builds their own motors.�
Nov 17, 2014
shadowinstallz Hmm.....I really want those 19" cyclones.....anyone interested in my 19"s when I get mine? Lol�
Nov 17, 2014
stevezzzz Ironically, Andrew changed his config to Obeche Matte. But I appreciate your paean to Obeche Glossy, since that's my choice.�
Nov 17, 2014
andrewket ^^. I'm still torn, but ended up with matte primarily over glare concerns. Otherwise I like the look.�
Nov 18, 2014
cynix Not according to this article:
�Tesla商機 陸資入股富田 | 首�* | 20140522 | Market Daily | news
Key points:
Fukuta Motor is the sole motor supplier for Tesla Motors. From the world's first electric sports car "Roadster" to the as-yet unreleased electric SUV "Model X", all of Tesla's motors are manufactured by Fukuta in Taichung, Taiwan. Fukuta supplied over 26,000 motors to Tesla in 2013 for use in its Model S cars, and to date has received orders for 42,000 motors.�
Nov 18, 2014
Gwgan I found this article with a little history and personal flavor
Why Did Taiwan Lose Tesla?
By Yuan Chou
From CommonWealth Magazine
Published: October 03, 2013 (No.532)
CommonWealth Magazine
It ends with "Fukuta's Gordon Chang, meanwhile, has gone ahead and invested nearly NT$100 million on a 365 square meter production and R&D center in the Fongjhou Technology Science-based Industrial Park just two kilometers from his company's headquarters, in preparation for taking orders on Tesla's upcoming Model X electric car. "You gotta do what you gotta do. Don't act, and you miss opportunities," he nods cheerfully."�
Nov 18, 2014
Vitaman Not a big fan of glossy wood in anything but a sedate luxomobile......but have to admit that 1079 almost had me convinced!�
Nov 18, 2014
stevezzzz If Lacewood was still an option, we wouldn't be having this discussion.�
Nov 18, 2014
gpetti wow, now I want obeche gloss, you must be in advertising.�
Nov 18, 2014
sundoc Breser.
Thanks again for the reminder!! The SC got back to me today, $1508�
Nov 18, 2014
breser Glad that worked out for you and you're saving some money. I'm guessing that's Canadian Dollars (and maybe taxes)?�
Nov 18, 2014
fiksegts just got my Tesla wall connector delivered from my P85D order.....�
Nov 18, 2014
sundoc Yup our good ole' colourful Canadian money (with tax its $1688).
For me to sell the rubber it would be for almost $1400 (taxes in) at that price my prospective buyers are better off just paying a bit more and getting them from a shop with installation etc.�
Nov 18, 2014
electrish Congrats!
I'm not too far behind you in the VIN order, so here's to hoping!
When did you receive your email that the wall connector was shipped?�
Nov 18, 2014
gg_got_a_tesla My DS - Go Charles! - has made it happen: production has now been pushed up to early December so that the car would (should) be ready by 12/21.
Fabulous customer service as always!�
Nov 18, 2014
LetsGoFast Mine just showed up. I never got an email.�
Nov 18, 2014
MarcG Sounds like a case of YMMV with delivery specialists.. some are fabulous, others - no comment.�
Nov 18, 2014
electrish Ha, just got an email 30 minutes ago to confirm the shipping address for my wall charger!
Things are progressing.�
Nov 18, 2014
ReversePolarity Are you guys buying the $750 wall connector or just using the supplied charge cable that comes with the vehicle? Without a dual charger I don't see much of a difference in charge rate. Thoughts?�
Nov 19, 2014
andrewket Many, many threads on this. If both are fed with 240v/50a, they will both provide 40a to the car. The charge rate will be identical. If the HPWC uses a circuit above above 40a, and the car has dual chargers, you will get a faster charge rate. The HPWC maxes out at 80a with a 100a circuit. At 240v/80a the charge rate will be twice that of the UMC at 240v/80a.
UMC = universal mobile connector. Comes with the car.
HPWC = high power wall connector.
The other advantage to buying the HPWC or a second UMC is you can keep a UMC in the car for emergencies. The HPWC also has fewer connection points and uses a thicker cable, and may be more durable. Time will tell.
My personal opinion is that if you have dual chargers and can supply the HPWC with a circuit above 50A at $750 it's definitely worth it. I have one and I paid ~$1250 for it. If you don't have dual chargers, then it's a bit of a toss up. I'd probably still buy the HPWC but you'll get many others on here who will tell you it's not necessary. Many have only the UMC and leave it plugged in in their garages.�
Nov 19, 2014
randompersonx Pros and Cons of HPWC without dual charger ...
Pro:
Portable charger can permanently live in the car in case you need it on the road
Wall mounted Cable management arm to keep cables neater when not in use
Heavier duty cable that might last longer
Thicker gauge cable that will reduce resistive loss during charging at the maximum single-charger rate
Cost of HPWC is only slightly higher than a second UMC
Future proofing if you get a future Tesla with dual chargers, or have a friend stop by for a charge
You will likely mount this in exactly the correct place for easy charging, with a UMC you might be trying to re-use an existing outlet in an inconvenient location.
Cons:
Requires professional installation
Much larger
While the unit can be installed with a limited amperage (And therefore use a smaller cable), and this will work fine for your single charger setup ... If you set it up for it's full potential in case of a future car or a guest with dual chargers, it will require heavy gauge cable which may have practical space limitations. Will also require a 100A breaker for full speed charging for a dual charger vehicle, which may not be possible in your breaker panel. As I said above, you don't have to wire it up for full power, and you could just put it on a 50A breaker with much smaller gauge cable.
NEMA 14-50 may be perfectly fast enough, and much cheaper to install, even with a professional electrician, due to cheaper parts cost and less complexity.
Personally, I plan on getting the HPWC as soon as possible, but right now I am trying to sell my house, and not quite sure where I want to move yet, and there's no point in doing the work here -- so I probably will be living off of a UMC with 120V for at least a couple of months, depending on how long it takes for me to sell my current house and buy another.�
Nov 19, 2014
andrewket Life at 120v is painful. Unless you live near a super charger and can use it to supplement, you're going to want to install a 240v circuit even for a few months.
This is the tracking thread. If we want to continue this discussion we should move to one of the many threads that have already discussed this topic. I'm on my phone at the moment which isn't very convenient for searching or I'd post a link here.�
Nov 19, 2014
gg_got_a_tesla Sorry Andrew but one last footnote on this.
The Inside Sales rep that I worked with mentioned one distinction between buying the HPWC along with the car (even if not installing it rightaway) as opposed to later from the online store - that of warranty. You get a 4-year warranty if with the car and only one year otherwise. I'm not getting one anyway but, just FYI.�
Nov 19, 2014
Cottonwood After having an MS for almost a year, I got a good deal on an HPWC and put it into my house in Pagosa. After seeing how nice it was to have a built in connector in the garage, and to have the option to charge faster when I needed it, I added an HPWC to my Boulder house. That was when they cost $1,200. I really like to the convenience of the HPWC, and love just leaving the UMC in the car for when it's needed in the field. If I had it to do over, I would have put in the HPWC's from the beginning.
As many on TMC know, I am a big proponent of ordering dual chargers. Even if you only use them a few times a year, saving hours charging when off the Supercharger highway is wonderful, and makes road trips much more pleasant. Although there are an amazing number of those 30-Amp EVSE's out there due to government subsidies, there are also a surprising number of High Amp Level 2 (HAL2) EVSE's in the wild, and more appearing all the time from Tesla's Destination Charging program, owner HPWC's on Plugshare, and the Sun Country Highway.�
Nov 19, 2014
wk057 Got a call from Tesla this evening about wheel options. I stayed with the 21 silvers, but they had some decent options for 19 all weather and such. (Like $4000 less)
I made sure there was no difference in delivery dates staying with the 21 silvers.�
Nov 19, 2014
RAW84 Well the wall charger is double the rate, if you're getting the correct service.
I decided against it, however, living in the northeast where I don't travel that far on a typical day.�
Nov 19, 2014
MarcG Interesting, sounds like they're getting to build your P85D! Did you inquire about updated production schedules?�
Nov 19, 2014
wk057 Still no more details. Last I heard was that "we're still on schedule for delivery on the 5th"�
Nov 19, 2014
gpetti Farewell old friend... Seems like only yesterday I was watching as my shiny new P85+ rolled off the back of a very similar trailer, now its being loaded up for its return journey to Vancouver. I know someone will enjoy it as much as I did!
OK, enough mushy stuff, I can go back to refreshing my dashboard every 5 minutes waiting for my new car to start building. I'm still guessing that November 24 there will be a pile of posts from people that their P85D started production.�
Nov 19, 2014
wk057 Wonder if anyone has scripted this... *ponders*�
Nov 19, 2014
Andyw2100 I can check with my delivery specialist, but do you happen to know if there are now different tire options than the Pirellis to go with the winter wheel package? I understand the Pirellis aren't the greatest in the snow, but as far as I knew I didn't have a choice if I wanted to go with the standard package from Tesla.�
Nov 19, 2014
Aargau Based on the announced VINs entering production, and that there are certain models with early VINs that have been delayed to Feb or later, I think about 1300 per week increment is correct. Roughly it was 60500 in production on 15th, and 61500 on 19th, so 62800 around 26th, 64100 on December 3rd.�
Nov 19, 2014
sundoc Yeah I got that call on Monday as well... I've got the 21's coming with the car and am picking up the base 19's Fri and mounting Nokian Hakka R2s (I may have actually said this same thing earlier in this tread).
From what I understand production will be starting Monday the 24th for the P85Ds...
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@ Andyw2100
If you want the whole Tesla winter package, you've got to get the Pirellis... not really a snow tire though, much better for dry cold road conditions.�
Nov 19, 2014
PlanB Anyone know what Tesla is going to do with all those P85D event cars?�
Nov 19, 2014
Dallas1 Where did the information come from that makes us expect our P85D production to start Monday? Where did you see that?�
Nov 19, 2014
Denarius Don't know where Sundoc got his info, but my DS told me that my car would enter production the last week of November.�
Nov 19, 2014
cynix Yep, I have a script that checks the dashboard every 15 mins and sends a push notification to my phone if anything changes. Although it's a bit pointless at the moment, because P85Ds won't be coming to Australia for another 7 months�
Nov 19, 2014
gpetti I was told the "End of Line"/start of production would be the 24th. It seemed to me from this thread and a couple of other with similar topics that the 24th was a common date when the Ds will start production in earnest. I am expecting that my car will have arrived in Vancouver, Canada by December 8th which seems fairly firm now so the car would need to be in production sometime at the end of November.�
Nov 20, 2014
lolachampcar Hello temporary fling
2012 McLaren MP4
I find this eases the pain thus I highly recommend it.
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Nov 20, 2014
Martini And you have the windshield stress crack to remind you of Model S!�
Nov 20, 2014
lolachampcar Yes.
Apparently it is a common problem (so I am learning). I just wish McLaren's service could begin to hold a candle to Tesla's.�
Nov 20, 2014
Andyw2100 I'm assuming the Pirelli Sottozero's that come with the Winter Wheel package are the Sottozero 3's right? (The Tesla Accessory Store, which seems to include the most details, just says "Pirelli Sottozero", and there is also a Sottozero Series II, according to Tire Rack.) In any case, I've also read in these forums that people don't seem too keen on the Pirelli Sottozeros for the snow. (You're not the first person to mention it, sundoc.) But reading the few reviews on Tire Rack makes them sound like they may be OK, especially in light of the fact that my P85D that they are going to be used on is going to be AWD, and when people were talking about using them here before the cars they were talking about using them on were RWD.
Thoughts?�
Nov 20, 2014
andrewket I have the sottozeros for my winter tires. Used them on my P85+ last year and will use them on the P85D when it arrives. I thought they were fine in the cold and light snow. I did not have the opportunity to try them in thick snow last season. I have the Prellis because that's what came with tesla snow package in early 2013 when it was $2500. They subsequently raised it to 4k. Now with the pricing back to 2500, it's not a bad deal afaik.�
Nov 20, 2014
Andyw2100 I apologize for this thread-drift, Andrew. I was just coming here to say that I found another thread where someone just got the package installed and said he liked the snow traction, and that I had asked him if they were the Sottozero 3s. That thread is here:
Do I want winter tires? - Page 4
They are the 3s, right? (Not the series II?)
Thanks again, and sorry for the thread drift!�
Nov 20, 2014
gpetti I'm pretty green with envy. I'm driving a car that belongs to my son that he was going to sell. It's a 2005 Ford Escape - manual transmission. Still its only about 2 1/2 weeks and I'll be away for part of that. When I get my D it will almost be as exciting as when I first got my P85+.�
Nov 20, 2014
breser I know the feeling. My S85 goes back today.
I'm driving my 2004 F-150 but I've got a lot longer wait than you do since I'm getting an 85D.�
Nov 20, 2014
gpetti Intentional use of the word "drift"?
This might be continuing the drift.. I also got a phone call about winter tires from Tesla (as it appears has almost everyone else). In my case I made the decision with my previous P85+ that having RWD on the mean winter streets of Calgary, good winter tires were a must. General consensus on the many tire threads was that the Pirellis were not the best for our more extreme conditions so I bought my own wheels and tires - which I will re-use. The interesting thing to me is that as far as I can remember, Tesla never called me about winter tires back then. Now that they have an AWD which is less likely to have traction issues, they seem to be fairly aggressively chasing buyers to make sure they have adequate tires. I'm wondering if this is just an initiative because they have a lot of winter wheels/tires in stock or if it is related to the P85Ds huge HP/Torque and making sure that nobody ends up doing an unexpected 360.�
Nov 20, 2014
Andyw2100 Since we're drifting anyway...
I'm guessing I didn't get the call because I ordered the winter wheel package. (I'm almost drifting back on topic there.) I just called my Delivery Specialist to ask about which version of the Sottozeros would come with the package, and he did not know, but said he would find out and let me know. I will post again when he does.�
Nov 20, 2014
NOLA_Mike And I'm guessing I didn't get the call because I live in New Orleans.�
Nov 20, 2014
andrewket I think it's the latter. With this much power, the performance tires that come with the 21's will be dangerous in the cold and snow.�
Nov 20, 2014
3mp_kwh Just got a call. I'm within the 2 week window, to confirm, and Tesla said my coil configured P85D order can no longer be honored for 2014, if confirmed. Looking at February. As almost everyone selects air, this shouldn't mean much. Call it another streamline. For me, a choice between 2015 excise taxes and air are enough, among other considerations ($$), to put me on the sidelines. I'm cancelling.
It'll be great when folks get these cars. The halo effect is going to be priceless. Just, please, don't drive too slow�
Nov 20, 2014
MarcG 2 week window of what? Delivery?
[EDIT] never mind, I just got it: the initial 2-week window to confirm your order. My bad.�
Nov 20, 2014
Vger I would expect they will be dispersed to the stores for demos. It is a bit surprising that they have not done this yet. But then again, as Elon keeps insisting, they need do nothing to stoke demand!�
Nov 20, 2014
Andyw2100 They'd have to be re-programmed (or de-programmed or whatever) to remove the auto-pilot features that aren't going to be available in the production cars for some time yet.�
Nov 20, 2014
Scothawk Here's the response from my DS regarding Winter Tires:
Winter Wheels/Tires
The 19� Winter Tire Set comes with Pirelli Sottozero II. This is the tire that Tesla has tested with the 19� wheel and it has passed our requirements. If you would like the Sottozero III you can absolutely purchase them elsewhere, but we cannot install them on your wheels.�
Nov 20, 2014
Andyw2100 That's interesting. I would have said that's too bad, based on the price differential on Tire Rack, but reading reviews, perhaps not. People do seem to be pretty happy with them. I guess we'll just have to wait and see.
On a related note, I think we'll be able to get a $70 rebate from Pirelli in the form af a Visa gift card. Here's a link to the rebate form: http://www.pirelli.com/mediaObject/tyre-2013/us/en/promotions/winter/Pirelli_Winter_Rebate_Form/original/Pirelli_Winter_Rebate_Form.pdf�
Nov 20, 2014
MarcG I just spoke to a senior manager of delivery experience, and she also confirmed production of the P85Ds will start during the week of the 24th. Even though my VIN is up there with the Canadian deliveries, she did point out that my EOL date is the first week of December, which is one week later. I think they're definitely shooting for a furthest-first approach to make sure deliveries happen in December.
As far as the SF bay area is concerned, so far only the Palo Alto store has a P85D demo. I spoke to someone at Fremont, since I'm taking the factory tour next Tuesday, and they don't have one yet although they're aiming to get it early next week. Will keep you posted if they do, meaning some of the first P85Ds are going to stores as well for demos.�
Nov 20, 2014
30seconds That's going to be a classic comparison when you get your D�
Nov 20, 2014
randompersonx Even if your production is first week of December, you will still be one of the first deliveries, since you are so close. It sounds like Canadian deliveries will be during last week of November, and then First week of December will be far-away USA deliveries, and your lucky car.�
Nov 20, 2014
andrewket Maybe I'll change my address to Canada, and then at the last minute ask for delivery in Virginia. ;-)�
Nov 20, 2014
MarcG I certainly hope so! :biggrin:
Will definitely keep everyone here posted on progress.
Interesting strategy! I'd be surprised if your VIN wasn't also produced the first week of December though (at the latest).�
Nov 20, 2014
BIGDJE Ordered: 11/10/2014
Confirmed: 11/18/2014
Estimated delivery: Early Jan
Scheduled delivery date:
Actual delivery date:
Delivery location: Costa Mesa, CA
Color: Blue
Wheels: 21" Gray turbine
Interior: Black next generation seats, Carbon, black headliner
Options: All but rear facing seats
Trading up from: 2014 P85+ With all options but rear seats�
Nov 20, 2014
gpetti Seems like Virginia is almost as far as Calgary but maybe logistically less problematic in terms of customs, and having to stop in Vancouver (in my case) prior to hopping on another truck.�
Nov 20, 2014
andrewket It's scheduled for EOL 12/1, so it better be! If it isn't I won't be able to take delivery until January.�
Nov 20, 2014
maoing Did you ask DS why delivery date is in Jan instead of December? At least the ordering page still shows December delivery for P85D as of now.�
Nov 20, 2014
ReversePolarity Yep got the same call. I didn't choose the Smart Air Suspension, and apparently my order would essentially be held hostage for two months if I don't add the $2250 option. Whats next, am I going to get more phone calls later saying that I need to add the Sound package and 21" or there will be delay? lol.�
Nov 20, 2014
3s-a-charm Gpetti,
ill bet our cars will be on the same truck! I've been asked if Dec. 30 would be a problem and unfortunately I leave that day so requested the 29, 28, or 27th.
I also went went with all options nut the 3rd row.
Will have aves to meet so I have another geek to talk to - my family thinks I'm going nuts!�
Nov 20, 2014
sundoc
Based on what my DS has been telling me.�
Nov 20, 2014
gpetti For sure. We should try to set up a Calgary meet. Maybe when the Canmore charger opens we can travel in a convoy�
Nov 21, 2014
fiksegts Tesla called from HQ last night just to confirm that I didn't need snow tires... in South Florida..�
Nov 21, 2014
3mp_kwh This is a little different than my case, if you were a confirmed P85D order and they punted your build to 2015? I assumed confirmed order holders would be honored, and that I was just missing the cut. It is pretty easy to drop, when you get "here it is, there it's not", or "let me tell you how good the air suspension is", by someone who isn't prepared with specifications. That's like selling grey, to a green order holder.
For the 1st Tesla, this summer/fall I passed on so many "everything" 2013's, looking for coils & "P". I hope it doesn't happen again, or that the dominance of air doesn't drown away the coil option, as a self-fulfilling, streamlined, prophesy. I think it would be too bad, as the way it stands, the 2015's are already starting to look more valuable.�
Nov 21, 2014
breser So far the coil P85D orders are just being told there will be a delay. It hadn't really occurred to me that they would possibly decide not to make them based on streamlining. If they discontinue coil P85D vehicles without making any after having made people with those orders wait I expect there to be some pretty upset customers. I hope that Tesla has learned that they shouldn't start refusing to build cars in configurations they've sold based on the green/brown/black roof/60D situation (with the reasonable limitation that you can't delay delivery of certain options they want to discontinue).
But even with the current situation it seems to me like this is another case of poor planning on the part of Tesla. Shouldn't they have told customers wanting coil P85D that they couldn't do it right now but that they were working on the engineering solution and then when that solution was ready add the option to the order page?�
Nov 21, 2014
breser Over on the Q1 2014 tracking thread (which really ended up having a tracking spreadsheet for all of 2014) we're discussing starting a new thread/spreadsheet for order/delivery tracking.
Think of it as one order/delivery tracker to rule them all.
To that end I notice that the P85D orders are almost exclusively in the spreadsheet for this thread. I'd like to get all the data in one place. So I'm wondering if there are any objections to taking the data in this thread spreadsheet and merging it into a single sheet with non-P85D orders.
I also understand there's some value in just seeing P85D orders. So I'd like to find a way to make the spreadsheet filter on order type so the single spreadsheet can still be as useful as the current sheet.
Lastly, the spreadsheet has open editing, which has been proven to be fine. I'd also like to adopt the charts and other interesting improvements that are on this sheet.�
Nov 21, 2014
MarcG I think it's a good idea to add all the P85D info in the master spreadsheet, but I would also keep the one Andrew created to just see P85D orders and compare production & delivery dates.
Would there be a way to link the two, where edits from Andrew's would update the master sheet automatically?�
Nov 21, 2014
breser I don't think so. But I do think we can provide views that filter everything out by order type. I am fully aware of the usefulness of just looking at P85D orders and want to serve all those uses without needing to duplicate data collection. Once we get into January I think it'll be useful to see similar info on 85D orders as well.�
Nov 21, 2014
kooljack Wow what a day.. I always reserved my "red" car for a ferrari but now MS takes it. I just changed my order from P85D to a S85 demo car and taking delivery in a week or so. The demo car had just 113 miles and 10K discount (no autopilot which i never cared for). Will order the P85D in May as my second MS before the sales tax comes into play in WA and enough time to convince my SO to give up her ICE.�
Nov 21, 2014
wk057 So, delivery of my P85D is scheduled for exactly two weeks from now.... not sure how that's going to work out. (12/5 at 12PM)�
Nov 21, 2014
electrish Lucky you!
I just wish they would also drop off my car on their way to Philly!�
Nov 21, 2014
jp97070 Was told by Tesla my car would be built the first week in December. 63613 to Portland, Oregon.�
Nov 21, 2014
PlanB Did you go through Sean at the Tesla store at WS mall?�
Nov 21, 2014
MarcG If production starts on the 24th, it's totally doable if it only takes 4-5 days to build it. Then they have a week to ship it, including the weekend.�
Nov 21, 2014
wk057 I'm hoping so. If it's the week after I'll have to briefly interrupt a vacation to go back and get it.
*crosses fingers*�
Nov 21, 2014
electrish That's exactly the scenario I was quoted: car will be built during the second week of December, which would take about a week, and then transport to Ohio would take 5-7 days, for an estimated delivery during the "weekend" of 12/22, according to the DS. My VIN is 63676.�
Nov 21, 2014
wk057 I wonder if any autopilot hardware related software updates will accompany P85D delivery....�
Nov 21, 2014
wk057 In production!!!!!!
In Production
The Tesla Factory is building your Model S.
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Edit:
OK, excited now.
Status changed from Confirmed to In Production between 3:30PM and 4PM eastern time.�
Nov 21, 2014
patp Good for you. My VIN is lower than yours but still not in production.�
Nov 21, 2014
wk057 Yeah, I'm honestly not 100% sure why I have the earliest delivery date on the spreadsheet, and now the first noted as "In Production".
Thank you, Tesla, I'm definitely not complaining.�
Nov 21, 2014
DPDsModelS Congratulations!
Mine is not going into production until December but at least I got a delivery date of 12/20. (Updated spreadsheet) Since I confirmed about 2 weeks after you, the dates all seem realistic.�
Nov 21, 2014
RubberToe Maybe you're getting some special attention for being the first person to eviscerate one of their battery packs and live to tell about it :smile:
RT�
Nov 21, 2014
LetsGoFast Awesome! I'm just glad that someone has one in production. It doesn't have to be mine.�
Nov 21, 2014
yoyo it must be the color! -- just speculating
DS is not telling any date, only said likely before Christmas�
Nov 21, 2014
gpetti Mine is also in production!! I'm glad to be wrong about the 24th! Not sure if this will advance my delivery date. I was going to post a screen shot but it looks exactly like the picture in wk057s post.�
Nov 21, 2014
electrish This is great news and hopefully will bode well for the rest of us. If Tesla are in fact producing up to 1000 vehicles per week and are prioritizing the P85D, we may all get our cars sooner rather than later.
One thing I noticed from you posting your entire VIN number is, even though your last 5 digits are higher than mine, placing you lower on the list, the middle two are lower than mine. So the last 5 digits don't tell the entire story/order of production.�
Nov 21, 2014
pdx I'm in production too!!�
Nov 21, 2014
commasign Hitting refresh every 30 seconds finally paid off. In production! VIN64179�
Nov 21, 2014
Aargau Argh. 64190, and so close to those in production...yet not in production.�
Nov 21, 2014
commasign The more frequently you press refresh, the sooner it will happen.�
Nov 21, 2014
breser The last 5 digits are the serial number. The rest of it is just encoded with details about the car. You can find the info to decode VIN for US vehicles published by the NHTSA (we know there are some values that aren't explained in that document for vehicle destined for outside the US). I'm guessing that by the middle digits you mean the 24 in his VIN. The 2 means Dual motor (so it should be the same in your VIN). The 4 is a check digit and is calculated from the other digits (this helps detect if there is a mistake in entering a VIN).
We also know that the VIN serial number has nothing to do with the production sequence. For example I had P56107 (which I just traded yesterday). While at the Tesla Service Center I saw a vehicle with roughly P55???. This vehicle had Autopilot hardware meaning it was made after my old vehicle which did not have it.
All of this has been discussed extensively elsewhere on this forum. So nothing I'm telling you is new information.�
Nov 21, 2014
reuted Tks for the hint! Now completely unproductive. 63779 is not in production?????
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Nov 21, 2014
MarcG So this tells me you've been hitting the "refresh" button at least every 1/2 hour :biggrin: Well done!
Interesting that US-bound (and one Cali-bound) VINs are being produced already. So no method to the madness?�
Nov 21, 2014
PlanB Lucky!, I want a D :redface:�
Nov 21, 2014
jp97070 I ordered online after going to the showroom. My sales associate is Chris.�
Nov 21, 2014
DPDsModelS What makes you say that the auto-pilot features aren't going to be available when we pick up our P85Ds?
(I know WK057 also posted about this)�
Nov 21, 2014
PlanB Most of the features are not going to be activated until Feb or later.�
Nov 21, 2014
OregonBob
I also ordered from Chris at Washington Square. Still showing confirmed status.�
Nov 21, 2014
MarcG For those of you who are now In Production, does the Estimated Delivery now show something different than December (in the PICK UP section)?�
Nov 21, 2014
shadowinstallz Little off the p85d topic,but my S85D now show march 2015.....boo�
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