Nov 11, 2014
Drron A slightly late Christmas gift
P85D ordered October 22nd and today I was given a delivery date of December 27th to Tampa, Florida
Silver, 19 inch silver wheels, tech, ultra hi fi, dual chargers, air shocks, pano, black 2nd gen. leather seats,
piano black decor. A late, but welcome gift to put under the tree or maybe it would go better in the garage.�
Nov 11, 2014
gpetti Too bad my car has a few thousand kilometers less to travel. Guess you'll be getting 2 and 3�
Nov 12, 2014
lolachampcar Higgs,
A buddy and I ordered the 12C the day Tampa got their franchise. My buddy was stolen by The Collection a month later when they got their McLaren franchise but he did not tell me. To make a long story short, Tampa "lost" my order so when it came time to deliver, my buddy got his while McLaren was unable to make things right with me.
I realize now that I got lucky. My buddy Lemmon Law'd his car because of all the initial issues with the car so I dodged that bullet. I'm now driving the exact same car I would have ordered (Silver/Black but I probably would not have ordered the carbon brakes) with 4500 miles on it for $100K less than I would have paid. I'll call that dodging bullet number two.�
Nov 12, 2014
andrewket How does a dealer misplace an order? Didn't you have to put down a considerable deposit? I completely believe you just to be clear. I'm just bewildered that a business could operate that way. At that price point they probably sell 1 unit a month? Or less?�
Nov 12, 2014
NOLA_Mike I updated the comments section of the spreadsheet yesterday - VIN 64272 - expected completion week of 11/24 and expected delivery in Houston week of 12/8.
Things are moving right along...
Mike�
Nov 12, 2014
SBR Mike, tell us more about how they confirmed 11/24 completion? I am 64273 delivery to Austin, so your post has peaked my interest
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Nov 12, 2014
NOLA_Mike Got a call yesterday from my Delivery Specialist...�
Nov 12, 2014
Andyw2100 So they are definitely not building these things in VIN number order, though that's probably not a surprise to anyone.
I'm VIN number 64227.
I called my DS yesterday, to ask about a couple of things, and at the end of the call I said "you probably don't have anything new to tell me about my delivery date yet, right?", and he said that actually he did. He informed me that my car should be finished the week of December 15, and should be delivered to me in upstate NY the week of December 22. I said something about how that sounded awfully fast to be making the cross-country trip, but he said that's what they did, weather permitting.
So of note is the fact that my VIN is a little lower than NOLA_Mike's, but my car will be finished about three weeks later. Also of note is that while my car, supposedly, is going to make it from California all the way to upstate NY in a week, NOLA_Mike's car is going to take twice as long to get from California to Texas. Perhaps Thanksgiving is a factor in that. Or maybe my car is just going to be faster!�
Nov 12, 2014
Aargau Wondering if anyone plans to pick up at the Fremont factory and drive it cross-country...sadly I only live 10 miles or so from Fremont...�
Nov 12, 2014
andrewket I just looked at your entry on the spreadsheet. You have a grey interior. I was told the Tan/Grey interiors would be slightly delayed. I originally had a 11/24 EOL date, but it moved to 12/1, believed to be because of the tan next-gen seats.�
Nov 12, 2014
Andyw2100 That could certainly be it. I'm in no way complaining. I just thought if people were thinking they were building them in roughly VIN order, that this was interesting, and that they would have factored in the interior color delays, etc., when assigning the VINs. I also ordered somewhat later than a lot of people, ordering on 10/24 and confirming on 10/28, so I'm sure that's a big part of why my car is coming closer to the end of December. I actually wouldn't be surprised if the date gets pushed back, based on it taking longer than a week to make it from California. The car is going to need to be delivered to the service center where they are going to need to prep it and get it inspected, and then get it to me, at the earliest, the next day. So I am skeptical that I'll have it a week after it leaves California, but we will see.�
Nov 12, 2014
MarcG Not sure that's any factor Andrew. My VIN ends in 63084 and I ordered next-gen seats in black, yet my DS says that production is planned for the first week of December.
@Mike, congrats on the early delivery date! I'm surprised to hear a 11/24 production week date, but that's great news. Please update the spreadsheet when your "My Tesla" page changes to IN PRODUCTION (same for everyone please :biggrin�
Nov 12, 2014
andrewket Tesla does seem able to transport vehicles quickly - ESPECIALLY at the end of the quarter.�
Nov 12, 2014
bonaire This is a bad idea for an out of state buyer. They pay the 10% or so CA State sales tax and then re-pay it in their home-state when registering it. And still pay the $1000+ delivery charge to pick up at Fremont. Someone with a lot of time and money surely could do this as an adventure.�
Nov 12, 2014
andrewket I agree picking up in CA and paying the 10% sales tax is a bad idea. This is why many out-of-state buyers take delivery in Nevada. However, out of state buyers don't double pay sales tax. With proper documentation that they paid tax in CA, that amount is deducted from their state sales tax; the buyer is responsible for the difference. Since CA likely has the highest tax rate, the net result is the buyer would not pay sales tax in their home state.�
Nov 12, 2014
bonaire Thanks - I would hope that is correct. Then they are paying a small premium rather than large. Next time I am at my DMV, I will ask them. I would love to pick up a Model 3 at the factory and drive it cross-country to the east coast.�
Nov 12, 2014
Aargau Just talked to my specialist. My car is scheduled to go into production first week of December, delivery first or second week in December.�
Nov 12, 2014
MarcG That's exactly the same answer I got from my DS. What are the last 5 digits of your VIN? Probably doesn't matter, but I didn't see you on the master spreadsheet Andrew started (see page 1 of this thread).
Also, are you taking delivery in Fremont or a service center in the peninsula?�
Nov 12, 2014
Aargau 64190. I should be on the spreadsheet...taking delivery in Fremont.�
Nov 12, 2014
randompersonx I wanted to do this, but the concept of paying California's sales tax really killed that.�
Nov 12, 2014
MarcG Ah ok, sorry I must've missed it. Anyway it seems that the VIN assuming doesn't really indicate production date. What I suspect Tesla is doing is manufacturing according to ultimate delivery schedules. If they want to deliver as many P85D's as possible in December, they should start with the ones that are going to be delivered the furthest from Fremont. Makes sense I guess.
I read somewhere on this forum that you don't get charged CA tax if you register the car out of state, but you have to leave California "immediately after delivery using the fastest route out of the state" or something to that effect.�
Nov 12, 2014
ckessel Nope, I researched this heavily before I took delivery (and have a post somewhere in the archive). If you take physical possession of the car in CA, you pay sales tax. There's no tricking the system on the concept of "possession". It's when you sit in the car and drive it away.
The California Board of Equalization spells it out quite clearly in a few their docs, making sure the loop holes about possession are all heavily clarified.�
Nov 12, 2014
koreth Just heard from my DS (or rather, my "Customer Experience Specialist"). In his words:
I put December 22 in the spreadsheet but hopefully it'll be the previous week instead. Either way, it'll be a nice Christmas present!�
Nov 12, 2014
gpetti Mine apparently will have an EOL of November 24 - not sure if that is what NOLA_mike meant. The car is expected to be in the Vancouver Service Center by 12/8. I will probably do a walkthrough in Vancouver on the 9th and it will be shipped to calgary around the 10th-11th.�
Nov 12, 2014
andrewket Not California. Sales tax is immediately due for in-state and out-of-state buyers. Many states will issue a 7/10-day "drive away' temporary registration and won't collect sales tax to out of state buyers. The buyer then pays tax in their home state. Not so in good-ole Cali.
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You're located in the bay area? I would think delivery would be much faster.�
Nov 12, 2014
Super Snake My P85d is scheduled for early January. I guess that makes my car a 2015�
Nov 12, 2014
andrewket EOL of January or delivery in January? I think you need an EOL of 1/1 or later to be a 2015.�
Nov 12, 2014
Super Snake You may be right. I was told that because the basic tech stuff can be updated over the internet the model year was not as important to tesla as it is with all other cars. I was told by my rep when ever you take delivery is the year of the car. May be true, may be not. According to my rep it isn't important any way.�
Nov 12, 2014
koreth Actually my hunch is it's just the opposite -- they are trying to handle the out-of-state (and out-of-country) orders first so they can maximize their 2014 deliveries. No real evidence other than the fact that the Canadians on the spreadsheet seemed to be told their delivery dates a lot sooner than the US customers. For us local people, if the car comes off the assembly line the week of December 22, we'll still take delivery this year since there's no transit time.�
Nov 12, 2014
svp6 NEMA 14-50 installed today. No magic effect on the dashboard, still late December... C'mon Tesla, just send the car already, I've been a good boy this year :smile:�
Nov 12, 2014
randompersonx The model year is encoded into the VIN, so the time you take delivery is irrelevant. I don't know what the criteria is for how they assign the cutoff for 2015 VIN's.
Honestly though, I don't think it really matters, what will determine depreciation is mileage, features, condition, and months remaining on warranty. A 1/2015 build will have a few more weeks of warranty than a 12/2014, but that's the only reason it will have a slightly higher value.
In the case of a S85, there may be some benefit to clear up 'does it have autopilot or not', but for P85D, the year really should not matter.�
Nov 12, 2014
andrewket Agree - except that koreth said his EOL was "early December". My comment was focused on the time delay from production complete to delivery considering there is no transport involved.
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I was wasting some time and started looking at new license plate combinations. I'm really not planning to change; GET AMPD works. But this option had me laughing:
Can you imagine the tickets?�
Nov 12, 2014
adiggs I reinforce ckessel's comment - I too researched it quite a bit. There's a point where it's clear that unless you pickup and drive without stopping out of the state, you've taken possession. So the bathroom break could be considered making use of California's amenities, and subject you to sales tax. In practice, you pay it. Period.
Got my dander up enough to send the folks that collect California's taxes a suggestion that they're killing an excellent tourism industry. Let's see - draw families to California with enough income to think that buying a $100k car AND picking it up in California to drive home is a reasonable thing to do. Think those families might stop by a theme park in SoCal, or see the sign in Hollywood, or do other touristy things while they're in the neighborhood? It's a start to a beautiful and classic American vacation, and it starts in California. CA could be getting an outsized chunk of the tourist dollars spent by those people, and instead they get nothing.
I'd like to pick up Model X in Fremont and drive it back to Oregon. Without a simple change - I suggested they implement a manufacturer issued 30 day temp tag (so only California manufacturers of vehicles can issue the temp tags - not dealerships, as part of picking up the vehicle at the factory). CA gets $50 or something worth of short term temp tag plus tourist dollars as people look around before driving home. Then the rest of the system stays in place just the way it is.
Ah well.�
Nov 12, 2014
andrewket If CA changed their rules and allowed out of state buyers to pick up cars in CA without the tax consequences, there is a VERY good chance I would do exactly what you suggest for the model X delivery. Bring the family, make a vacation out of it starting in California (kids have never been to Disneyland), and drive cross-country back home.�
Nov 12, 2014
fiksegts ah, another Tesla and McLaren owner in FL... I have a Volcano Orange MP4-12C....
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Nov 12, 2014
majorlance Ahh, you don't think the Virginia troopers have a sense of humor? You just have to end at 60 mph...�
Nov 12, 2014
redp85d I was planning on the exact one except 02603 1�
Nov 12, 2014
EarlyAdopter Looks like we've got our first "Early January" US delivery in the spreadsheet. It would seem all 2014 P85D production slots are accounted for!�
Nov 12, 2014
andrewket Not quite. Early January delivery is likely a last week in 2014 build. There could still be a few slots left.�
Nov 13, 2014
EarlyAdopter Doesn't the factory shut down for line maintenance the last week of each quarter still? If so, the last week to build would be the week of Christmas, which would be a delivery right before the end of the year.
If it goes as it has the last two years, there will then be a pause in deliveries for the first week of January (since no cars were built the last week of the year), the line starts up again after the New Year, and a week or two later you start seeing cars delivered again. I know this from just missing the end of the year push in 2012 by 2 VINs!�
Nov 13, 2014
andrewket I will be shocked if the factory doesn't run straight through to the end of the year.�
Nov 13, 2014
bonaire wet paint Dec 31 deliveries at Fremont expected.
I think shutdowns are usually the first week of first month of a quarter. July 1st weekend, Jan 1st and so on.�
Nov 13, 2014
andrewket Oddly, I received an email from Tesla this morning with the subject "Your order has been confirmed". In the body- "For the purposes of factory planning, we have begun sourcing parts for your Model S. As your car's final assembly date nears, you'll be contacted to plan your pickup. If you have any questions, please contact us."
mytesla is still showing "Your Model S has entered the production queue at our Factory in Fremont, California."
I'm not sure what triggered the email. Anyone else receive a similar email this morning?
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Nov 13, 2014
wk057 Status update: "We have begun sourcing parts for your Model S"
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Yeah looks like the same email, although I can't get to My Tesla for some reason (keeps timing out)�
Nov 13, 2014
gg_got_a_tesla Got my VIN! 65513 with delivery in just "December".
I did indicate to the Inside Sales Rep when upgrading that I'd be out of town starting Dec 22nd through the new year so, hopefully, the delivery is done by then.�
Nov 13, 2014
jstepy Andrew you beat me to it... I too got that same email this morning. I approved the lease offer yesterday with finance and perhaps thought that was the reason? Also when we all did the re-confirmation a while back I never got the confirmation email... Are they playing catch up with that?�
Nov 13, 2014
andrewket That's interesting. I never received the email confirmation for the original order or the reconfirm. Weeks ago I contacted tesla to verify that hey had the correct email address, etc. Tesla couldn't come up with an explanation. Truthfully I think they thought it was user error on my side and it was sitting my spam folder or some such.�
Nov 13, 2014
Vitaman Received the same email.
I added the Subzero 10 days ago, but it had not showed up on my dashboard.
Thought that triggered the confirmation.
Maybe they just want to re-re confirm to be super sure?�
Nov 13, 2014
Cottonwood Yes, I got the same e-mail moments ago, and nothing changed on the "My Tesla" page.�
Nov 13, 2014
wk057 They added a PDF of the order confirmation to My documents�
Nov 13, 2014
sataponw Same here�
Nov 13, 2014
MarcG Same here guys. I got a confirmation email even though I had confirmed on 10/29 and already had a Motor Vehicle Purchase Agreement (MVPA) PDF in the My Documents section of My Tesla's dashboard as of 10/30.
The original MVPA was incorrect in that it had an extra line item for 19" Winter tires that I never ordered, but the updated MVPA which showed up in my inbox and online this morning is correct.
Coincidentally, I emailed my DS this morning about the need to get an updated MVPA with correct options for the financing guy at Alliant, so I thought he finally got off his @ss (he almost never emails back, I always have to call him) and did something quickly for once. Now I know I was wrong and it was auto-generated :biggrin:
Oh, and no status change on My Tesla - still shows "Order Confirmed / Your Model S has entered the production queue at our Factory in Fremont, California" with a December delivery estimate.
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Are you seeing this on the My Tesla page or in the email you got?�
Nov 13, 2014
DPDsModelS Unfortunately, this has been similar to my DS experience as well. I also got the email but no discussion of production or delivery dates.�
Nov 13, 2014
sundoc Got the same email. Dated for Oct.28, my re-reconfirmed date
I think they're playing catch up.
Still waiting to hear back on my lease application... They're taking their time for sure!�
Nov 13, 2014
3s-a-charm I got it too. And my wall charger on the same day!�
Nov 13, 2014
electrish Any relationship between "sourcing" email and completion of built?
Newbie question: Are there any rules of thumb when the car will be built, dependent on the "sourcing" email?
I got that email today, but haven't received the "wall charger" email, which I've read somewhere indicates that your car is 4 weeks from being completed.
I am anxious to get my hands on my first Model S!�
Nov 13, 2014
jpet On Nov 4 a Tesla sales rep told me that there would be a planned shutdown to do some work on the line in January. I assume Tesla will do everything to deliver a maximum number of cars in Q4 given that they had to reduce guidance for 2014 deliveries from 35.000 to 33.000.
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I also received the e-mail today and my car will not be built before some time in January (Europe delivery). My guess is that Tesla was overwhelmed by D upgrades and orders during the past couple of weeks and are now getting their administration back on track. When I ordered & confirmed a P85 last August, I received this e-mail a lot faster. I don't think there is a correlation between this e-mail and the time the car will enter the production line.
If you are really curious about the time your car will enter the production line, it's a good idea to keep a close contact with your sales or DS. They are able to look up the dates for each order. In any case, when your car enters the line, you will see a new message in My Tesla.�
Nov 13, 2014
electrish Thanks, jpet, this is good information. I wonder if there really is a correlation between the "wall charger" email and the production date, then.
Trust me, I went that route first, but my DS is very vague about the production date and doesn't answer half of my emails. My delivery is scheduled for "late December" and I was told "tentatively around 12/22". I was just curious if any of the automatically triggered emails would help pinpoint the exact date.�
Nov 13, 2014
jpet Probably not.
When you were given 12/22 as a reference date, that's the best they can do right now. They will be able to produce a more exact date after production of the P85D has started and they get a better grasp on the number of cars they are able to build per day / week. Rest assured that the pressure is on at Tesla. They need to deliver a maximum number of cars during Q4. If they can, they will build and deliver your car before 12/22. :smile:�
Nov 13, 2014
stevezzzz The 'sourcing parts' line showed up in the email I got today (for an S85D order), but not on My Tesla.
Another question: I have no My Documents section on the My Dashboard page. Is it just because there are no documents for me to look over yet, or am I missing something?�
Nov 13, 2014
jpet This is what I see when I scroll half way down the My Tesla page:
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Nov 13, 2014
Cottonwood Hey Stevezzzz, it's not so obvious, took me several mouse clicks to find it.
When in "My Tesla" click on the "View Profile" button for the car of interest. Then go to the bottom of that page and you will see "My Documents" under "Documents."
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I think the difference is that Stevezzz and I have multiple Teslas so we have to drill down a level...�
Nov 13, 2014
NOLA_Mike From the My Tesla Page where you see your vehicle you have to hit View Profile. From that page you should see the My Documents when you scroll down the page.
Mike�
Nov 13, 2014
stevezzzz Ah, OK: I see my error. The 'My Tesla' page has a 'View Profile' button on it , which takes you to the page in question, the one with the My Documents tab.
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...and I see that I got two helpful messages while composing my reply...�
Nov 13, 2014
MarcG Yeah that's what I figured, I think they got rid of the message on My Tesla that said "We have begun sourcing parts for your order".
The possible messages are now:
1. Order Pending: Your Model S will be confirmed on <date 14 days after order>. Once confirmed, we'll begin sourcing parts and building your Model S
Most of us are at step 2 now, and from what I understand steps 3-5 can happen very quickly - matter of days.
2. Order Confirmed: Your Model S has entered the production queue at our factory in Fremont California.
3. In Production: The Tesla Factory is building your Model S
4. Production Complete: Your Model S is being prepared for pickup or delivery
5. Production Complete: Your Model S is in transit from the factory
Anyway I'm looking forward to seeing message #3! Then we can fill out the "Entered production" column of Andrew's spreadsheet.�
Nov 13, 2014
Vitaman And Andrew, thanks again for creating this thread!
I've been waiting over 3 months, and it makes the car a little more real.�
Nov 13, 2014
andrewket Lol, it does make the waiting just a little easier. Misery likes company.�
Nov 13, 2014
MarcG It's also very useful to keep each other posted on our status. I definitely learned a lot, so thanks to all for the valuable information!�
Nov 13, 2014
shadowinstallz S85d here...got same email...hmmmm�
Nov 13, 2014
kooljack Moved my order from 85D to P85D.. waiting for the deposit to move and confirm .. Dec delivery so far�
Nov 13, 2014
breser I don't think this step exists. Or at least my September order never had it. Showed "prepared for pickup or delivery" right up until me picking the car up.�
Nov 13, 2014
ReversePolarity First post here :smile: Just confirmed my order for a P85D :tongue: Black on Gray, nextgen seats, tech pkg and 19" wheels. Placed deposit on 11/4 and confirmed the order on 11/12. MyTesla shows December delivery; Sales advisor gave me a Mid December estimate (still shows December delivery on the new configurator as of 11/13)... Here comes the waiting game, we'll see if it will be a pre or post Christmas gift to myself :love:�
Nov 13, 2014
berryja Same here�
Nov 13, 2014
Firewired I just wish "someone" would actually enter production already. At least then we know that yes, we all are waiting, but there is movement at the front of the line.�
Nov 14, 2014
andrewket Congrats, and welcome to TMC.�
Nov 14, 2014
sundoc Frim what my DS has said, the earliest this will happen is the 3rd-4th week of Nov. Based on the earliest projected delivery dates on the spread sheet, I'd say that timeline makes sense.
But, yeah. I can't wait to see someone go into production as well!�
Nov 14, 2014
andrewket My guess is 11/23 we'll see the first cars showing "in production" on mytesla.�
Nov 14, 2014
yoyo Interesting that no one in chicago region has gotten any estimated delivery dates yet, and DS said it is still late December.
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Nov 14, 2014
ReversePolarity Woohoo! Just got the VIN number today. But a bit of a bad news, for the first time, the production estimate said "Late December" instead of "December." Means I'm stuck close to home late in the month. Which isn't a bad thing, right?
One question - for those who have taken deliveries (not necessarily the D), how late do the "delay notifications" get sent? Will you literally know a week before the estimate delivery that the car is delayed, or will they give notices 2,4,6 weeks out? Given the fact that they're trying to ramp up production AND implement new models AND a new car, estimations might be like catching a falling knife... Plus lets not forget the "incentives" for telling perspective buyers early estimate, and then delayed it after you get the deposit :tongue:�
Nov 14, 2014
MarcG I just got a somewhat cryptic email from Tesla:
I have not made any changes since I confirmed my order on 10/29, so I have no idea what this is about. I don't even know who either the person who sent it or the "carbon copied" person in the email are.
Looking at My Tesla's dashboard, I do see a new document labeled "Delivery Configuration" below the "Model S Order Agreement" (which is the MVPA) that was updated yesterday.
When I open this "Delivery Configuration" document, it is actually titled "Vehicle Configuration" and has almost the same information as the MVPA except it also includes no-cost items such as fog lamps, parcel shelf, Primacy tire upgrade, etc.
And by the way, my Delivery Specialist did email me this document exactly a week ago, and it looks identical to the one that's now in My Documents.
Has anyone else received such emails or new documents in their dashboard?
(PS: my status still says "Order Confirmed", entered production queue blah blah..)�
Nov 14, 2014
andrewket No email here. In my documents, I have "Model S Order Agreement" which is the MVPA dated 11/13, and "Configuration & Final Price" dated 11/5, which as you said is very similar to the MVPA, but shows zero cost items. The MVPA says I accepted the terms 10/24 (the date of the re-confirm), whereas the configuration & final price doc shows 10/9, the original date that I confirmed.�
Nov 14, 2014
gpetti I Bet the 24th�
Nov 14, 2014
EarlyAdopter MarcG - I received one of those emails, too, but in my case I did request a change a couple of weeks ago, from black to red.�
Nov 14, 2014
stevezzzz Time for me to 'fess up: I switched my S85D order to P85D last week, on 11/5, and it just showed up on My Tesla this afternoon. MC Red, Pano, Grey Next Gen seats, Black Alcantara, Glossy Obeche, Red Brake Calipers, Air, Tech Package, Dual Chargers, Premium Interior and Ultra High Fidelity Sound, 19" Wheels. Still shows February for delivery, but that will change.�
Nov 14, 2014
Cottonwood Congrats! Another P85D in Colorado!!!
Hopefully we can get some side by side shots in a month or so...�
Nov 14, 2014
bonnie Is this really stevezzzz? Because the stevezzzz I know would not spend that much extra money just for performance. So who is this, really?
(and congrats!�
Nov 14, 2014
stevezzzz I'm practical, hardheaded...and ultimately susceptible to the siren's song... :biggrin:�
Nov 14, 2014
Cottonwood Welcome to the vortex, and enjoy!!!�
Nov 14, 2014
MarcG Ok so I found out why I got this update: my original MVPA had an extra line item for the 19" winter set that I never ordered, so this fixed it (albeit over 2 weeks later).
And by the way - nice choice of colors ;-)�
Nov 14, 2014
DrGuest That's so exciting stevezzzz, Congratulations! The New Tessie is going to be a real Beauty and Fasttttt�
Nov 15, 2014
andrewket She is the devil. So the next question is.. What of your sig?�
Nov 15, 2014
stevezzzz What of my Sig? It's the question of the hour, for sure. I find it incredibly difficult to part with the Sig Red beauty, such an historic car and a future collector's item; and for the moment I'll make room in the garage by getting rid of my RDX. Marcia will enjoy driving the 'old' S, I'm sure. The real question: what happens when the X arrives?�
Nov 15, 2014
MarcG Quick update here: got an email this morning that yet another new document was updated to My Tesla (that's 3 docs in 3 days).
This one is the "Configuration and Final Price" document that has the MPVA/vehicle config on page 1, and a detailed breakdown of the total price, taxes, various fees, and balance on page 2. Makes it feel more and more real!
For those of you who are financing, does any part of this document show your lender information and loan amount?
The Alliant rep I've been working with mentioned the MVPA (he probably meant Final Price sheet) needed to show this for them to fund the loan.�
Nov 16, 2014
Hybris Ordered: 9/11/2014
Confirmed: 10/11/2014
Estimated delivery: Late March
Scheduled delivery date:
Actual delivery date:
Delivery location: Stockholm, Sweden
Color: Gray
Wheels: 21" Gray turbine
Interior: Tan next generation seats, Carbon, black headliner
Options: All but the silly overpriced premium interior package
Trading up from: 2014 P85+ With all options�
Nov 16, 2014
dweeks
The Motor Vehicle Purchase Agreement is not the price breakdown. It is a separate formal purchase agreement document that you electronically sign. My lender, Energy FCU, required they get a copy signed with by Tesla and I.
Once I e-signed it, it took Tesla a little over a day to return me a version with both my signature and that of one of their financial people. I then sent THAT one to the lender
Hope that helps...�
Nov 16, 2014
mrElbe Production has to start soon if the projected delivery dates of Dec. 5 and 8 are to be realized.�
Nov 16, 2014
MarcG How do you e-sign the MVPA? I don't see such an option in My Tesla.
Depending on delivery location, they could technically start production during the last week of November for a delivery in the first week of December. The question I have is, do they stop for Thanksgiving or keep going in shifts.
I plan on visiting the factory during the early part of that week (Monday/Tuesday the 24/25th) and will ask that question, along with "are you building P85D vehicles yet?" :biggrin:
BTW my DS mentioned production on mine is currently scheduled for the first week of December and I have one of the early VINs, if that gives any indication on production schedules at all..�
Nov 16, 2014
wk057 I actually asked my DS about this, and they said that my 12/5 date is still on target. We'll see.�
Nov 16, 2014
MarcG Did you ask him when production is slated to start on yours? If you're in NJ and 12/5 is indeed the delivery date, I would assume that it should leave the factory by the last day of November at the latest..�
Nov 16, 2014
wk057 Yeah, I posted this here back when I got my estimated date:
Told me when it would be done, not started, so, sounds about right, since that would mean finishing production next week some time, although no change on My Tesla yet.�
Nov 16, 2014
gpetti She didn't say "end of line date" was November 24th?
apparently that means the start of building. Apologies if that is not the case and you already knew that.�
Nov 16, 2014
Vger Struggling with all the same issues, Steve! Except in our case, Maggie gets the P85D! I am going back and forth about letting the Sig go now versus next year when the X finally arrives, or, or,... Aaaaaa!!�
Nov 16, 2014
dweeks I got an email saying the purchase agreement had been put in MyTesla. It uses a process called DocuSign to allow to electronically sign it and notify Tesla that you did so.�
Nov 16, 2014
gpetti I thought I had updated the sheet previously but my delivery date is now December 10 (to Calgary). It will actually arrive at the Vancouver service center along with a bunch of other cars (apparently) on December 8th. I may attend a walk through on the 9th (will visit my brother in Vancouver as I did the last time) and then I'll receive the actual delivery on the 10th - possibility of the 11th depending on the time to transport from Vancouver to Calgary. Last time they left in the evening and arrived the next morning - not sure if there will be a larger transport vehicle this time as I suspect there are a bunch of deliveries out this way.�
Nov 16, 2014
wk057 Exact quote was: "Looking at the dates, the Model S is expected to finish production the week of November 24th."�
Nov 16, 2014
stevezzzz Vger, you and I are truly fortunate people to be faced with a problem like this. :biggrin:�
Nov 16, 2014
mrElbe So, to finish Nov. 24, production has to start in 2 or 3 days. Any bets?�
Nov 16, 2014
NOLA_Mike Finish the "week of Nov 24th" does not necessarily mean finish on the 24th. In fact, I bet it could start production on 11/24 and finish on 11/29 and that would still be finishing the week of Nov 24th.
But I hope you're correct and we start seeing some "in production" posts soon...�
Nov 16, 2014
andrewket This is correct. It's the week that the car will enter production. So an end of line date of 11/24 could mean a car that begins production anywhere between 11/24 and 11/30.�
Nov 16, 2014
sundoc This is pretty much the same time frame my DS mentioned for the first batch of P85Ds going into production... Coming closer!�
Nov 16, 2014
gg_got_a_tesla DS said in his intro email that delivery window's Dec 17 - Dec 30. Will be out of town Dec 22 onwards through the new year; aargh... not sure the delivery will happen in time. Noted these dates with the DS but, no reply since.�
Nov 17, 2014
MarcG Hmm I still don't see any option to DocuSign anywhere. The link to the following documents just opens a PDF:
Model S Order Agreement (11/13)
Delivery Configuration (11/14)
Configuration & Final Price (11/15)
Which one of these did you sign, if at all (and if not, what is it called)? Thanks.�
Nov 17, 2014
Vitaman My DS mentioned that there will be a second purchase agreement closer to delivery that will prompt you to DocuSign.
So for now......sit back and savor the wait.�
Nov 17, 2014
Cottonwood I got an e-mail that my P85D should start down the production line before the end of November and I am about 1,600 VIN slots later than the lowest VIN on the spreadsheet.
Extrapolate from that as you wish...�
Nov 17, 2014
MarcG Just saw today's "Factory Upgrade" blog about production:
Factory Upgrade | Blog | Tesla Motors
So it sounds like we SHOULD be already in production. Any updates from anyone's My Tesla dashboard?�
Nov 17, 2014
randompersonx That says they made a new section to build the new smaller motor that goes in the front of the P85D and both front and rear of S85D.
Most Likely Tesla has started producing our motors but not yet the actual cars.�
Nov 17, 2014
sandpiper
I confess that I'm a little nervous about getting one of the first handful off the line.:crying:�
Nov 17, 2014
Andyw2100 I'm nervous too, but I don't think first handful or first few thousand makes a big difference. I'm just nervous about whatever kinks they may need to work out of the system not having been worked out before they make our cars, since this is a new model. I'm trying not to worry too much.�
Nov 17, 2014
randompersonx As far as the motor assembly goes, AC Induction motors are very simple, and this should be a simple matter of scaling the existing design smaller. I'm sure there are other areas for problems to crop up, but I'm not worried about the new motor specifically.�
Nov 17, 2014
cynix That's weird, I thought they sourced the motors from a Taiwanese supplier.�
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