Dec 4, 2014
MarcG Totally agreed! I also asked the Sr. Manager of global delivery experience when I can expect to get a delivery date, and she said I'm welcome to set one up with my DS but to be aware that it's subject to change at any time. So no way to get a firm date at this point although I'm in the last stages of production... Very strange.�
Dec 4, 2014
spentan Just had a chat with Sales Advisor,
Delivery can either be December or March, January and February are completely filled up for International Deliveries apparently.
I don't know if I'll be able to claim the whole $7500 back this year. But just gonna bite the bullet and order today.
I will update the spreadsheet as information comes available.
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Dec 4, 2014
lsnetman Just spoke with my DS today after getting an email asking for payment plans. I asked which car the email was referring to, assuming it would be the P85, but he said it was for both, and that I should still expect delivery before the end of the year for both the P85 and the P85D. I asked about the delays noted on the forum, and he said yeah, but that December delivery is still expected.�
Dec 4, 2014
crazybrit We have been focussed on the singular issue that might be holding things up. I am wondering if there are more than one. A new configuration, a new line, I would think they have a punch list of items to work through.�
Dec 4, 2014
lolachampcar osama,
You're upset because Tesla is talking to you. ANY other manufacturer (actually, the dealer) will just tell you it is delayed and push you by a month without any explanation. The simple fact that Tesla communicates at all only gives us a window into the chaotic world that is trying to produce widgets.�
Dec 4, 2014
spentan Just confirmed order,
will update spreadsheet when I get VIN.
omfg, so excited.�
Dec 4, 2014
gpetti I agree that production seems to have slowed down with regard to P85D (as per our sample of TMC users). As others have pointed out, they could focus on other models while the P85D is held up, but additionally whatever the hold up is, they can only pump out so many cars and stockpile them. They are not setup for large inventory storage other than however they are handling international vehicles etc.�
Dec 4, 2014
Dallas1 It's no surprise to me. I'm fully ready to register in Texas and pay the annoying sales tax. I just didn't realize it FIRST had to be registered in California in order to get around Texas's restrictive law. But now I understand why.�
Dec 4, 2014
OConnorStP I just talked to my DS. My conversation was on a very practical level -- makes no difference to me when my car arrives, I just need to keep the folks that are buying one of my cars informed on when I can deliver the used car to them and how many miles it'll have on it. He's pretty careful to be conservative in his estimates and is still giving me dates in December. My car is in "paint" today. I have a feeling there are going to be a lot of "Christmas Teslas" or "Tesla Christmases" this year.�
Dec 4, 2014
MarcG Email update from my DS:
So again, no commitment on a date and no indication that there are any issues whatsoever. So it seems the waiting and guessing games continue...�
Dec 4, 2014
crazybrit Alliant is busy
I have been working on the financing for my P85D. Yesterday, my loan officer was difficult to get a hold of. I mentioned in an email that he must be very busy. This was his response:
Sorry about that but yes Tesla is kicking in as I have closed 5 today and 15 to go for the remainder of the week.
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What does that mean? Are cars getting delivered, or is the "closing" before delivery? This is just one guy of many at Alliant.�
Dec 4, 2014
Aargau Well, I signed an NDA at the factory tour, so can't really say too much. Definitely no pictures or video. The Tesla folks were very nice and tried to answer my questions on the P85D delays, but didn't have too much information. I saw some finished P85Ds, one was at the public supercharger. That leads me to believe P85Ds are finished, although I don't have any figures on how many.�
Dec 4, 2014
pdx What can you tell us about the finished models? Did you see a grey one with grey wheels?�
Dec 4, 2014
yoyo yes! It is moving (again)! Mine just went into production sometime this afternoon
now needs to get trade in and everything else done quickly�
Dec 4, 2014
Aargau This may be interesting to some. In the public area.
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Dec 4, 2014
pdx That's earlier than any vin we have on the spreadsheet.�
Dec 4, 2014
bluenation definitely agreed.
there are other examples: X reservation holders upset at lack of comm, S buyers who got theirs days before the D announcements.
People really misunderstand the necessity of good comm in *amazing* customer service.
back on topic: make sure you guys post some HD videos of your new cars when they get here! i'd love to share them with some of my peeps! (not to mention, disprove the naysayers !�
Dec 4, 2014
MarcG Yep, and notice the 11/2014 date of manufacture.�
Dec 4, 2014
NigelM Mod note: discussion the range of the D went to Range-Reduced-on-Dual-Motor-Configs. Pls continue that discussion over there., my apologies that the split wasn't pretty but it'll hopefully keep this delivery tracking thread err, on track.�
Dec 4, 2014
spentan Added info to Spreadsheet. Will update as information is determined.�
Dec 4, 2014
RiverBrick iirc, there was talk of having such a requirement in Canada, but the dealers said, "look, we're good boys, you don't need to legislate, we'll voluntarily supply all that information."
This was a decade or so ago. Since then, some dealers have become "lazy" and don't post the stickers. Luxury brands are the ones most often guilty of this. Someone asked a BMW dealer why no car had stickers in their showroom and their claim was that is was unnecessary due to consumers being so knowledgeable nowadays.�
Dec 4, 2014
crazybrit Have they started to build RWD cars earlier? This would be a bad sign for us.�
Dec 4, 2014
uselesslogin Not as many posts but one guy is getting his Monday when it was originally scheduled for the 17th.�
Dec 4, 2014
crazybrit I would be concerned if January production is moved to December.
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Dec 4, 2014
Jgdixon 
Anyone else notice that it says Recaro next Gen seats?�
Dec 4, 2014
3s-a-charm I suppose my guess from 2 days ago makes a lot more sense now?!
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Good catch! Also good to see they are still Nappa seats!
Also why is the range stated on the sticker much less than the Tesla website advertises? (242 vs 285)? Just a different way to calculate the range?�
Dec 4, 2014
toto_48313 There is no Tesla Seat on Recaro website... not yet at least.�
Dec 4, 2014
uselesslogin There is another thread with the details. Calculated from this sticker and considering the 2013 EPA testing rules the original S did not have to test under it is 284 miles highway range from a 100% charge. 242 miles is the combined range from a 90% charge.�
Dec 4, 2014
NigelM There's a whole thread on that subject.....Range-Reduced-on-Dual-Motor-Configs, I moved the discussion over.�
Dec 4, 2014
Papafox You have to appreciate that you're buying a supercar with up to 7 seats that can go 0 to 60 in 3.2 seconds and gets the equivalent of 89 miles per gallon. If this combination of attributes doesn't put a shudder into the competition, I don't know what would. Congratulations to all you soon-to-be P85D owners! Please do share some videos, as previously requested.�
Dec 5, 2014
3s-a-charm Production has virtually stopped... ??�
Dec 5, 2014
WarpedOne No.�
Dec 5, 2014
yoyo at least 2 P85D entered production yesterday
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Dec 5, 2014
3s-a-charm compared to 9/10 per day on the days of Nov 24-26... then down to 1-2 per day.
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Dec 5, 2014
yoyo no concrete evidence, but I suspect this has a lot to do with how many people put down their info on the tracking sheet. It is unlikely that only 150 or so P85D got ordered, more like over 1000 I would assume. Like someone else suspected, there were lots of early adopters in the early tracking. I have also seen other forum members mention about P85D order but did not see their names (I scan through the Chicago area orders - as I suspect many Chicago orders would be staged and shipped together�
Dec 5, 2014
andrewket I'll re-sort the spreadsheet again later today.�
Dec 5, 2014
wk057 My P85D was initially scheduled for delivery 11 minutes ago.�
Dec 5, 2014
pdx My P85D was initially scheduled for delivery 3914 minutes ago.�
Dec 5, 2014
commasign 1320 minutes ago for me.�
Dec 5, 2014
Jaff @ Jdixon...I was looking at the sheet for our "old" P85 yesterday before we traded it in...(sniff!...read separation anxiety)...I noticed the Canadian ? U.S. content has dropped from 55 or 56% down to 50%...wonder why?�
Dec 5, 2014
AMN New Recaro (Italian?) seats, Israeli Mobileye hardware, new Bosch (German?) brakes... that should do it.�
Dec 5, 2014
Bobbyducati thats my car. so yes seems like RWD cars are still currently being built (mine finished on the day before thanksgiving). My original date way back when was the 3rd, it moved back to the 17th right after the D announcement, and is now scheduled for pick up on monday (the 8th, its already there and waiting).�
Dec 5, 2014
breser Recaro is a Germany company, not that this means the seats are made there which is what is important.
But this theory is busted because my September 2014 S85 without Autopilot hardware said 50% on the window sticker. That car of course does not have the new nextgen seats, Autopilot sensors, or the electromechanical brakes.�
Dec 5, 2014
DPDsModelS
Give or take a few seconds, right? :tongue:
Seriously, I am hoping you guys get your delivery ASAP as I know I am behind you in the pecking order!�
Dec 5, 2014
bonaire one more motor - Taiwan source for both electric motors. Italian seats, as others said.�
Dec 5, 2014
EarlyAdopter Tesla builds their own motors in-house for the Model S.
You can see the custom rotor winding in the High Efficiency Drive Train video on this page about the Fremont factory upgrade:
Factory Upgrade | Blog | Tesla Motors
The Taiwan thing was just for the Roadster.�
Dec 5, 2014
breser The motors are made in Fremont. They were made in Taiwan at one point but not anymore. Tesla had to increase their US content of their vehicles to qualify for the loan with the Department of Energy and at that point they moved motor manufacturing in house. This also happens to be shown on the window sticker, it says where the motor was assembled.
Also again, Recaro is German. Recaro - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia�
Dec 5, 2014
bonaire I think the re-sort disconnected the names from the data of that line (B to the right). Do you have a backup?�
Dec 5, 2014
EarlyAdopter My P85D was originally scheduled for delivery next Tuesday and could still make it on time if they sent it today.
Come on Tesla! Ship. Ship. Ship!�
Dec 5, 2014
bonaire From this quote, it seems Fukuta makes the motors and Tesla assembles them into a motor/inverter/drivetrain configuration.
But it could be wrong:
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Dec 5, 2014
andrewket Where does this keep coming from? Tesla builds their own motors. You can watch it on the video that was recently released (sorry, would link it, but I'm on my phone and it's a pain.)
Edit: ok, news to me. Maybe they're being built in house and from a supplier?�
Dec 5, 2014
breser I think Fukuta is just making some components now. At one point I think they made the whole motor. I know the motor is assembled in the US, the sticker sheet outright says that. Where the components are made isn't as clear.
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There's this article that's been posted before:
http://english.cw.com.tw/article.do?action=show&id=14438&offset=0
It's from October 2013 and Fukuta says they're prepping for Model X motors.�
Dec 5, 2014
EarlyAdopter It is wrong.�
Dec 5, 2014
MarcG Quick update from my DS this morning:
I'm still scheduled for a tentative delivery date of next Wednesday, December 10th in Fremont. Let's see if it holds.�
Dec 5, 2014
gpetti Well one of my various dates was yesterday yet my key chain still looks like this. A sad reminder of former days of Tesla driving. I've been driving ICE cars long enough now that I no longer leave them running or forget to lock them. That's just wrong.
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Dec 5, 2014
andrewket Would one of you who created a script to check the dashboard mind sending me a copy via PM? You'll save me the trouble of writing it myself�
Dec 5, 2014
spentan In.gif�
Dec 5, 2014
wk057 Sent PM.�
Dec 5, 2014
pmppk 63853 entered production this morning�
Dec 5, 2014
Vitaman It may interest some of those with Late December deliveries that my DS said that my car (and I'm sure many others) is scheduled to be built starting Monday, Dec 8.
She thinks final inspection will occur Monday Dec. 15 ,with cars heading East sometime after that.
When I asked her if the Delivery would be before Christmas, she just could not commit.
Feels great to know that there is an actual date when it will be built! Really tired of the Queue.�
Dec 5, 2014
DPDsModelS +1
While I am not totally giving up hope for my 12/20 delivery date, I'd trade it for getting out of the queue, into production with some degree of certainty that I can actually take delivery in 2014!
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Dec 5, 2014
Firewired I can't get mine to commit to any specifics. So ipI appreciate you sharing yours. I likewise can't wait to get "some" change on the dashboard.�
Dec 5, 2014
gpetti Being in Production loses its shine when you been in it for 2 weeks and nobody knows why and or when you will get out of it. I remember how excited I was when it first went into production. I was somewhat less happy when it went BACK into production and now when I look at it every day and its still in production I'm pretty disappointed. Still, its kind of nice to know I have a cool, mostly built, P85D car out there somewhere.�
Dec 5, 2014
MarcG You know, you can find out from either your DS or the headquarter's inside delivery team what stage of production you're in. Should be "final inspections" in your case, but it would be good to know anyway.�
Dec 5, 2014
randompersonx The best part of being in production for 2 weeks is when your DS insists that your car is in the paint process after 2 weeks.
Perhaps these cars are being hand-painted, and that's the hold-up.�
Dec 5, 2014
Hands_Free 
I for one can't wait. Found this yesterday.�
Dec 5, 2014
sickfox +1000 :biggrin:
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Dec 5, 2014
crazybrit My car has been scheduled to be out of production on 12/15 since the say I confirmed the order. I talked to my DS today, and mentioned this thread. He has been watching it too, and knows nothing. He is also not surprised about the delays. The only date he has ever given me is the 12/15 date, and says that my car should be here towards the end of the month, but will not commit beyond that. I honestly think that any DSs that are giving more information are actually shooting from the hip. They know no more than we do.
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I am just waiting for the first P85D to get loaded onto a truck, whosever it is.�
Dec 5, 2014
MarcG Doesn't have to be loaded on a truck if taking delivery at the factory :biggrin:
And at this rate, I wouldn't be surprised if the first P85D was delivered locally.�
Dec 5, 2014
crazybrit Unless they figure they can find the solution to a problem while the car is in transit, and fix it at delivery :wink:�
Dec 5, 2014
wk057 Hmm... got an email about an updated purchase agreement.
This one has actual information on it. Specifically, "VEHICLE TO BE DELIVERED ON OR ABOUT: 12/12/2014"
Says the seller is Tesla in NYC...
I'd prefer NOT to go to NYC...
Unrelated, looks like they finally added 6.0 release notes...�
Dec 5, 2014
Scothawk So does anyone have "Production Complete: Your tesla is being prepared for shipment" on their dashboard or did those who had it go back "In Production"?�
Dec 5, 2014
EarlyAdopter Ah, good catch. I got this final MVPA to Docusign this morning as well and mine says the same - TO BE DELIVERED ON OR ABOUT 12/12/2014
My original (conservative) delivery estimate from the beginning of last week when my car went into production was 12/10/2014.�
Dec 5, 2014
gpetti As mine had already been completed (November 26th), my DS was basically telling me that it was about to be loaded on a truck. He was originally expecting it might arrive in Vancouver on Monday (last) but he later revised that to arrive in Vancouver today. Even when I told him that my dashboard had jumped back to inProduction, his systems told him it was ready for transport. As far as he is concerned the car was completely done and he hasn't been told anything more. Whatever they are waiting for, my car may be retrofitted (if its seats or something). Otherwise it is sitting somewhere waiting for whatever the delay is.�
Dec 5, 2014
LetsGoFast The only combination of events that would really suck is to take delivery in 2015 and miss the tax credit but still have a 2014 VIN.�
Dec 5, 2014
Firewired Agreed. Also would stink to have to get the credit re-run because of delaying beyond 60 days from approval.�
Dec 5, 2014
tcampos My D just entered into production today. with this plus other posts I've seen in the last couple of days, seems like things are moving again :-D�
Dec 5, 2014
crazybrit I thought it was 30 days�
Dec 5, 2014
andrewket Spoke with my DS. He confirmed all P85Ds are still being held. HQ is being tight lipped. They are not sharing with the field why or an estimate as to when the cars will be released. My car is still in production, but it's moving very slowly. It was body in white on Monday. It entered general assembly this morning (Friday). DS agreed it's slower than normal.
So for now the only thing to do is be patient.�
Dec 5, 2014
RichardL The idea of proceeding slowly through production surprises me - from my tour it looked like you start at one end and move forward in sequence.
Going slowly implies there are now 'buffers' where cars can be held - I assume other cars are going through as fast as possible and hence passing the Ds?
Perhaps its only at major transitions - production of the body in white, at the end of painting and at the end of general assembly.
Anybody understand the process better?�
Dec 5, 2014
electrish I am no expert in car manufacturing, but the spreadsheet indicates that production has stalled. Many of the forum members are focused on their delayed delivery, but seem to overlook the dearth of new cars currently entering production. I don't think that this can be explained by any of the previously suggested causes, such as missing/ill-fitting seats, unavailable window stickers, or initial robotic misalignment. Window stickers, for example, are available as documented by Aargau's photo. The seat company has been in business for more than 100 years and knows how to provide a high quality product. We also know that Tesla can successfully build the P85D, as they have shown during the demo event, however, these vehicles were most likely assembled by hand, at least as it related to the front motor.
Could the initial respectable number of cars entering production during the first week, but not during the second week and the unusually long production time of greater than 2 weeks mean that these vehicles are clogging the line since they have to be assembled, at least in part, by hand, instead of the usual automated process?
Do we have any proof that this is not a problem of scaling up production due to technical problems with the assembly of the front motor, for example? Maybe some experts in automotive manufacturing could chime in.�
Dec 5, 2014
gg_got_a_tesla Latest update from DS is that my car will be ready for pickup sometime next week. He's going to followup again on Monday with an update.�
Dec 5, 2014
MarcG Sounds like Tesla is waiting to release a large initial batch of P85Ds around the same time, starting next week, but as to why - I have no clue.�
Dec 5, 2014
FredTMC Thx for update! Really good to see if tesla will soon break this P85D delivery log jam. It'll be great to see a lot of happy owners taking delivery. Can't come soon enough.�
Dec 5, 2014
electrish Keep us posted, since that would indicate that the production problems can be solved!�
Dec 5, 2014
bonaire On the bright side, they are making various customers cars who ordered in September and October now. I bet they are glad to hear their cars are now getting built and not waiting on the P85Ds ahead of them.�
Dec 5, 2014
Firewired Crazybrit,
Energy FCU is 30 days, which they will extend for an additional 30.�
Dec 5, 2014
wk057 I find it a little silly that everyone's DS seems to have a different set of information...�
Dec 5, 2014
AlMc Or shares different info with different folks. :wink:�
Dec 5, 2014
gpetti It looks like about four of us reached completion. I think mine was the first to show completion and also might be the only one that went back into production.�
Dec 5, 2014
fiksegts Mine went into production today....�
Dec 5, 2014
andrewket I've either been in production since 11/25 (dashboard) or 12/1 (DS). Still there!�
Dec 5, 2014
sundoc So. Montreal's Tesla store grand opening today... I wasn't there but was sent a text from a friend.
4 P85Ds there.
Guess there some out in the wild now...
Apparently the seats are pheonmenal and though there was a ton of snow, it stuck to the ground.
Now I don't at all understand this delay.�
Dec 5, 2014
Aargau Whoa. Just went into production. VIN 64190.�
Dec 5, 2014
SkiD Also just went into production. VIN 63007. Nice birthday present.�
Dec 5, 2014
spentan Happy Birthday,
I confirmed mine yesterday, an still not in production. I presume a VIN has to be assigned first?�
Dec 5, 2014
Aargau Yes, after confirmation they'll update the status to show a VIN#, then it will move to production queue, then into production.�
Dec 5, 2014
gpetti If I had to guess, based on what little information has been shared by various DSs including mine, the recent bout of cars kicking off on top of the few that have entered production since the logjam, i think the problem will be resolved over the weekend and cars will be completed and continue according to the usual process, I.e. Some pickups will start next week and those of us getting deliveries will receive cars the week after. I was starting to wonder if they were actually rebuilding my car (it went back into build on December 2cnd) but presumably they would have to use a different VIN number?�
Dec 5, 2014
3s-a-charm Whoa, wait... nope - still in the queue! Darn. Congrats! My only salvation is knowing that I'm not taking delivery until Dec 24-29 and that in theory once it goes into Production it can be at my door in 10-12 days so there is still hope.
How do they handle model years and VIN numbers... I keep hearing that the model year is dictated by the VIN but that Tesla matches the year to the delivery date unlike every other manufacturer. Thx.�
Dec 5, 2014
MarcG You know, I have the same gut feeling but no idea why. Crossing my fingers for deliveries starting next week!�
Dec 5, 2014
redp85d In production tonight hoping for a 12/12/14 or 12/14/14 pick up@ Factory . Ppl call me Mr.optimisitic :tongue:
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Dec 5, 2014
NorthShore Asking for payment?
Okay my P85S has been in production since 11/25 and at this point I just imagine it riding around and around the factory on that automated track for hours a day while the workers occasionally put on a lug nut or headlamp as it glides slowly past.
It's still in production but tonight I got an email requesting payment.
Is that a significant change or are they just charging me rent for the time my car is spending laying around the factory?�
Dec 5, 2014
gpetti I had already paid for mine (and signed over my old car) - basically I had everything done for a potential December 4 delivery.�
Dec 6, 2014
andrewket Funny you brought this up, because I started to type this idea in a reply yesterday and decided not to post it. If Tesla completely destroyed a car that had never left the factory, maybe they could create a second one with the same VIN, but imho having a process by which this can happen is a dangerous. If two cars with the same VIN were to leave the factory, badness would ensue. Much better to just give you a new VIN. Remember that the VIN is encoded in several places in the car.�
Dec 6, 2014
sundoc Give it a few days... I suspect Lawrence will get a couple of them. All 4 probably went therefore store opening and the test drives.
Check out the Canada thread for pics etc.
Thanks for the offer to tag along if you fly out�
Dec 6, 2014
mrElbe If Sundoc can't make it, I would love to fly with you to Montreal. We would just have to make sure that they can schedule us for test rides.�
Dec 6, 2014
electrish I would really like to share your optimism, because that would mean that some of us might still take December delivery.
Your point of Tesla re-building the cars in the queue is a good thought, however, that would mean that they let forty-some cars go through before detecting the flaw. I think it's more likely that they may have detected potential problems after a handful of cars, after which they had to fix things by hand, caused the observed slow-down.�
Dec 6, 2014
andrewket Sounds plausible. I get nervous about items that are built by hand. Inconsistent, generally more susceptible to annoying things like rattles that are very difficult to fix, etc.�
Dec 6, 2014
3s-a-charm I had a good laugh out loud about the image you painted below... thanks!
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Nice setup/color! That's what I originally had but changed to black.
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Dec 6, 2014
crazybrit
As I mentioned in an earlier post, I don't think there is any one issue, but a punch list of them. Monroney Sticker: Check, Seat Issue: Check, Motor Viration issue: working on it.
Here's hoping that they are getting down to the last few items.
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Dec 6, 2014
toto_48313 Montreal is now the largest Tesla Store in North America.
Was there yesterday evening, and 4 P85D were there, and test ride were amazing!
REgarding my P85D (64774) My delivery specialist told me it wil enter in production on dec 8, and delivery planned for dec 20...
I'm selling my previous (04241) today...�
Dec 6, 2014
redox Just to make you feel "better": I was asked for payment, had a delivery date. I paid. When funds transferred my DS called me to tell me the date was cancelled and no new date in sight.
I know, coincidence of course...
-- Greg�
Dec 6, 2014
lolachampcar I arrive to pick up my car with a check in my hand�
Dec 6, 2014
redox Indeed. That's sort of the price to pay for being an early adopter. We're going to deal with a bunch of bugs to debug, but to be honest we knew what we were getting into.
I hope that after they ran the line for a few cars and found out the issues, they're going to fix the issues, re-run the same car specs through a whole rebuild on a new (fixed) prod line, and fix the first batch by hand so they can be used as loaners/test cars (but not customers).
That would mean new VINs for these customers of course. I wouldn't mind a new VIN, but I would mind hand-crafted patches. For that amount of $$ you kind of expect perfection.
-- Greg�
Dec 6, 2014
Cottonwood Hmmm.... What's up, Google is tells me that I no longer have permission to look at the spreadsheet?�
Dec 6, 2014
ariporad Weird, me too.�
Dec 6, 2014
flyboyzz1 I suspect Tesla shut it down. They didn't want us to be able to track how slow the line is moving.
:smile:�
Dec 6, 2014
andrewket Hold on.. Looking into it.�
Dec 6, 2014
gpetti I tend to agree with what you're saying, I.e they detected problems after a handful of cars that had actually completed production, unfortunately mine being one of them. They could be hand fixing the problems while also working on the line but I was musing that it's also possible that they might have just rebuilt a few from scratch which would also lead to a week delay or so. I'm fine with the hand fixed idea as I know that if there were relatively few needing fixing then they will be getting special attention�
Dec 6, 2014
andrewket Ok, access control to the spreadsheet has been fixed. It's a little worrisome, because I didn't change it. It had reverted to private, with only 2 named individuals other than me who had access. A bunch of you must have tabs on your browsers with the spreadsheet up all the time, because as soon as I fixed the permissions ~10 people connected within 15 seconds. It was funny.�
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