Jan 21, 2016
kf93 could be a car that has been sitting inside a showroom for a while. Do they rotate the cars in those? I can't imaging the car inside of tyson's corner mall in VA gets driven that often.�
Jan 21, 2016
DougH Maybe but for 2 years, doubtful.�
Jan 21, 2016
HankLloydRight I'll see your "76 miles" and raise you 50 miles:
85 kWh Performance Model S P29474 | Tesla Motors�
Jan 21, 2016
ahurst And with every option available at that time�
Jan 21, 2016
ahurst
They corrected that one - 15,000+ miles now�
Jan 21, 2016
DougH Yeah I figured it was listed wrong.�
Jan 21, 2016
FlatSix911 This may be a new record ... my Inventory car was delivered with 5 miles at the Fremont factory.
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Jan 22, 2016
MsElectric So you got a $5 discount? :biggrin:�
Jan 22, 2016
FlatSix911 With only 5 miles and 2 months in Inventory, the discount was $2,500.�
Jan 23, 2016
cab Ah for the good old days of 2015 Q4 "get 'em sold!" price drops...pricing (especially P85 and P85+ cars) has stagnated a bit it seems. Unlike the new cars (which qualify for the rebates) I don't suppose there is much incentive to drop prices in January.
I would assume the next round of drops will likely occur in March as they try to hit Q1 numbers, preview the Model III and HOPEFULLY Model X production ramps up more and folks start trading in their Ses. The latter should also help to push a few more cars to the private sale market as well.
My "plan" is to test drive the new 2017 Volt (had a 2012...lease was up in July and GM decided not to roll the 2016 Volt out in Texas) around March when it gets here and then "make the call" as to whether I go for it or step up to a CPO Model S. Honestly, my biggest dilemma? I work from home 98% of the time and the "financially responsible" version of me is like "WTH...why do you even need ANY new car???!!!"...I really hate that guy.�
Jan 23, 2016
AMPd I have a decision to make in about 4 months.
My standard 85 will reach 50k miles, the decision I'm faced with is purchase an extended warranty or trade it in and upgrade to a p85+ via CPO (I drove the p85+ and loved the handling, it was fantastic!) OR lease a brand new p90d, the p90d is quicker than the p+ but some might say the handling on the + is better, but with the p90d I can get the exact options I want...
Im indecisive, I go back and forth everyday�
Jan 23, 2016
KJD If you must test drive a new Volt, then please test drive a new Tesla the same day and tell me which is the better car.
As far as being financially responsible, I could ride the bus to work every day and save a bunch of money over owning a car, but I choose not to. Call it a guilty pleasure if you like.�
Jan 23, 2016
cab So to be clear, I already know the Model S is an awesome ride (4 test drives later), but the new Volt may be "good enough" from an enthusiast point of view. I neglected to mention one of my primary drivers here is the "fun to drive" factor. The old Volt was awesome, but it never inspired me to want to "have fun" in it. Even with the bit of torque it had off the line, I almost never nailed it since it wasn't "satisfying" (note: my two previous rides were 400hp V8 stick shifts, etc.).
Comparatively, I test drove (over 3 days) the BMW i3 with range extender and it was a blast to drive around town (light, tossable, just FUN), but its freeway manners were really marginal, the ride was choppy, suicide doors were impractical, etc - too many negatives. Now the new Volt is getting a lot of praise for its "fun to drive" factor as compared to the original and performance seems signifcantly improved - hence my comment that it may be "good enough" in that area. Conversely, I might find it is more similar to the old Volt than I had hoped and I might come away feeling "meh" about the overall,improvement. Oddly enough, the Chevy BOLT might also be a "funfactor" contender given its form factor and sub 7 second 0-60 time (BMW i3-like w/o all the drawbacks).�
Jan 23, 2016
DougH Why not just buy the cheapest Model S you can find?, there are such good deals right now....private party not through Tesla.�
Jan 23, 2016
Jo- Where are those deals? In looking for the "cheapest one I can find" with RFS, nowhere have I seen better deals than the CPOs- which have had a handful pop up sub-45k..and bare bones 60s around 35K...Ebay, Cars.com, panjo, etc. are all over-priced for the 60s and high mile, early vin 85s. Not that I'm doubting you, but I'm just not finding/seeing them.�
Jan 23, 2016
No2DinosaurFuel Call up or talk to your local tesla showroom they might be able to find something barebone or even non cpo sold as is for really good price.�
Jan 23, 2016
Jo- Yes, I have done that and have a couple guys keeping an eye out for me. I was more addressing Douglas's statement that there are "such good deals...not through Tesla" when trying to get "the cheapest Model S you can find." I'd like to be pointed in right right direction if that's the case. I haven't seen a better deal elsewhere myself.�
Jan 23, 2016
DougH There's a cheap P85 with Autopilot listed on this site, that's a pretty good deal. If you are picky then you will not find what you you want for a while.
I am selling my P85+ with AP but it aint cheap:wink:
2014 P85 Autopilot $69k
2013 model S P85 fully loaded priced to sell�
Jan 23, 2016
mmd That car is sold already! He or she got a nice showroom discount of $6887 for 2327 miles last Jan.
2014 P85 Autopilot $69k�
Jan 23, 2016
marty2112 Go with the P90D..... I was in the same boat and loved the way the + drove. After driving a new P90D for a weekend, I completely lost my desire for the +. The newer cars are just built so much better and if you wait a few more months, we should have a new nose job...�
Jan 24, 2016
AMPd I love the current nose�
Jan 24, 2016
FlatSix911 Love the build quality on my 70D.
Agreed ... let's hope that Tesla does not use the storm trooper nose from the Model X!
This is much better...
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Jan 24, 2016
dgpcolorado One of the lower priced S60s, $46,300, has reappeared:
P12651
I think this was the one I was looking at a couple of weeks ago but I had to pass on it because it was registered in Denver, which means that it isn't eligible for the Colorado tax credit.
Perhaps it came back on the market because the buyer was also from Colorado and belatedly learned about the tax credit.�
Jan 25, 2016
Phillmonroe Me too I don't like the Model X style nose even though that wouldn't stop me from getting one.
Yeah I like this front way better than the actual nose cone they use. I thought they should keep it similar like bmw but guess they wanted something different.�
Jan 25, 2016
Butcher Thinking of upgrading my car with a one that has Autopilot. Is there a way to know which cars have autopilot on the CPO site? Is it all 2014s with tech package?�
Jan 25, 2016
Larry93428 No. My "2014" with tech package does not have autopilot.
~Larry�
Jan 25, 2016
mkjayakumar The ones after 56k vins have autopilot.�
Jan 25, 2016
DougH Use Hank's site, you can choose to search for AP.
http://ev-cpo.com/�
Jan 25, 2016
marty2112 Have you guys seen the new X nose in person? Trust me, you will like the refresh.....
The way the T floats is very cool. I do admit that it is not as flattering on white as most pictures depict. You must see it on blue, black, grey to appreciate.�
Jan 25, 2016
MsElectric I agree and I think Tesla will do a really great job with the new nose and it will make the Model S look even sleeker. I personally think the Model X looks just great in white.�
Jan 25, 2016
ecarfan The CPO web page for an individual car lists the "Features" for that car. If the car has Autopilot it should be in the list.
Here is an example 85 kWh Performance Model S P62304 | Tesla Motors
It has "Tech Package with Autopilot".�
Jan 26, 2016
sitter_k just brain storming here but is it possible these are Canadian cars being send back for sale due to the low Canadian dollar, there hasnt been many cars added on the Canadian site? Do Canadian cars have different vins?�
Jan 26, 2016
HankLloydRight I don't think so. None of the "No Location" cars have a RENC (Region: Canada) option code, they're all RENA (Region: North America).
Yes, I know Canada is part of North America, complain to Tesla.�
Jan 26, 2016
kwjayhawk Hank,
Can you help clarify why some VINs have a P in front of them? Specifically I'm looking at those lower priced S60 and S85 where some have P and some have just numbers but I'm guessing it has something to do with P's being early vins? Would those P's have or not have something? (Thinking early battery pack/DU?)
Just trying to understand in hopes of a future purchase.
Thanks,�
Jan 26, 2016
supersnoop The first 1,000 or so start with S (for Signature), and then they switched to P with five digits. Now, they've built so many car, they need another digit, so they dropped the P.
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Autopilot was introduced in September 2014. Some vins as low as 48k have it, and some as high as 59k do not. You can't be certain based on VIN alone.�
Jan 26, 2016
HankLloydRight Besides what supersnoop said, this might be of interest to you (and others): Decoding Tesla Model S VINs�
Jan 26, 2016
sitter_k Don't worry I'm not one of those inferiority complex Canadians lol�
Jan 26, 2016
kwjayhawk Thank you snoop and hank. Helpful indeed.�
Jan 27, 2016
chriSharek I JUST checked the CPO list to see if any had Autopilot! Thanks for this post. I don't see any that are < P85Ds though . . .�
Jan 27, 2016
Cyclone Are you getting a 2nd S before your first is delivered Chris?�
Jan 27, 2016
Wshowell Is it just me or are the CPO deals fewer and further between for all models? Lots of high mileage cars and a ton of 60s that have no business being priced over $50k. This car besides being an early VIN is the only one I'd consider being a good "value". 85 kWh Model S P02316 | Tesla Motors
pre Christmas deals were the best and since then the choices haven't been attractive IMHO. Thoughts on what's going on from corporate? Maybe the delay will get me an AP car if my patience can hold out.�
Jan 28, 2016
chriSharek Wshowell, I have ordered exactly what I wanted - description in signature below. But, I thought I would check and see if there were any CPOs that might fit the bill. NOTHING. There are a bunch of P85Ds from those that have to have the latest and greatest ludicrous mode and the 60s you mention, but if you want AP, you're spending $100k on a used P85D. Nothing in between. I guess I'll have to "settle" for the car I ordered.
Oh, I have asked my local sales team to see if they can find an inventory car that might match closely. I might save a little, but I'm not expecting a miracle.�
Jan 28, 2016
DRasheed I agree that the deals have worsened over the past 2 weeks or so. I noticed the overall inventory has gone down from about 520 to 465, so it seems like the cars are getting bought faster than new ones are coming onto the market. Seems like simple supply and demand is driving up the prices.
As to why the supply is going down or demand is going up, it would be hard to know for sure. Maybe the CPO site is getting more popular/well known? Maybe there haven't been many trade ins lately?�
Jan 28, 2016
ahurst And where are CPO 85D's? I rarely see those.�
Jan 28, 2016
Cyclone Give it time. A couple factors control why they are more rare:
1. They began deliveries a few months after P85Ds, so they are a younger "model" to have hit the CPO market
2. They were never the "top of the line" model, so the buyers of them may be less likely to trade up soon.
-- Some P85D buyers may have bought that model for more than the Tesla experience or eco-friendliness. Not all of them, but some of them. Thus, this "crowd" is more likely to have traded in for a P90D or a "supercar" from another company.
This doesn't explain every scenario, but likely plays in role in why CPO 85Ds are more rare than CPO P85Ds.�
Jan 28, 2016
Pinot.Noir Is it just me or did Hank's CPO website go down?�
Jan 28, 2016
ahurst Down�
Jan 28, 2016
dgpcolorado Seems to be working fine for me.�
Jan 28, 2016
HankLloydRight Everything seems up and running.
In the future, please use the EV-CPO.com CPO Consolidator support thread Thanks.�
Jan 28, 2016
2krazykats So glad I got mine in December with the EOY deals. I'm subscribed to EV-CPO but haven't seen any deal since as good as what I got. Granted mine was an inventory that didn't appear on the site but my OA was able to find me a car I truly love driving every time I'm in it and am getting fed and state incentives for 2015.
contacting a Tesla OA might be another option to consider. Good luck!�
Jan 28, 2016
DRasheed After complaining that there were no good deals, a car popped up today that was just what I was looking for so I pulled the trigger! Guess the squeaky wheel gets the greasin...�
Jan 28, 2016
SmartElectric Nice. P? AP?�
Jan 29, 2016
mrjedistud
From what ive seen there was a noticeable drop in price back in November and December. Since then I haven't seen the same level of prices. It could have just been that there were higher mileage cars for sale back then. I think trade ins come in waves. As tesla was pushing to make year end sales goals on new cars this resulted in a large number of trade in s from customers. I would suspect that the next big push in cpo volumes will be when the x deliveries hit in full force or when the first leases expire.�
Jan 29, 2016
AMPd Congrats!
Specs?�
Jan 29, 2016
Zaphod It wouldn't have been a white P85 with AP was it? If so, you stole my car! J/K..:tongue:
I saw it posted and was waiting to get the approval from the wife and came back shortly after and it was gone...snooze you lose...�
Jan 29, 2016
Drucifer Need to get spousal pre-approval so you can pull the trigger at will. Trust me on this.�
Jan 29, 2016
Zaphod Oh yes, definitely have that now�
Jan 29, 2016
DRasheed I'm on a tighter budget than the average poster here so I ended up with a grey S85, 2013 with about 22K miles. Rear seats, leather, pano, and air suspension. Got it for 58,200. I don't think that it was the best deal ever, but it was exactly what I wanted so I pulled the trigger.
I really wanted the 85 battery, and I have 2 young kids who will fit in the rear seats for several years so that was a must for me. Needing rear seats really limits your selection, unfortunately, since less than 20% of the cars have it. I acknowledge the "cool factor" of autopilot and strongly considered getting a new 70, but the range of the 85 battery and saving another 12K was more important to me.
I got the alert from Hank's site, and within 20 minutes I put down my deposit.�
Jan 29, 2016
HankLloydRight Sweet!�
Jan 29, 2016
SmartElectric Well,um....if it's 12am and she's been sleeping for a few hours and you say 'hey I just put down a reservation for a used Tesla' and she says 'huh? Ok' does that count?!�
Jan 29, 2016
dgpcolorado After mulling it over for awhile I decided to look for a 2014 with a VIN at 38,000 or higher to get a somewhat newer build, rather than go for one of the cheapest cars. (I also kicked around the idea of leasing a new 70D, but after spending more than $30k over three years I'd end up with no car.) I'd been watching the car I bought for several weeks hoping that it would come down in price but I really wanted to get moving on it before my spring travel season starts in late March. So, I pulled the trigger yesterday.
I picked up one of the "overpriced" S60s mentioned by several others upthread � albeit with very low miles � after comparing it to a more expensive (+$8500) but slightly newer S85 with higher miles. I'd have to pay a $1500 transport fee for either car, so that wasn't a consideration. Since the car hasn't been registered in Colorado it will be eligible for our $6000 tax credit.
Getting the S60 will mean somewhat longer Supercharging times, but otherwise range won't be an issue on the routes I plan to drive. And I live in "Supercharger heaven", with six Supercharger stations* within Tesla range of my house in the mountains.
Because of the low miles I assume that the car won't have had a DU replacement, so I expect that I will face that someday. And it will be a major nuisance with the nearest Service Center 330 miles away, but I'll manage.
* Glenwood Springs, Grand Junction, Green River, Moab, Blanding, Farmington.�
Jan 29, 2016
DougH I loved my 60, but the range anxiety got to me and I traded up to a P85.�
Jan 29, 2016
dgpcolorado I've been driving a LEAF for 4+ years without range anxiety. Being an expert hypermiler and comfortable with energy units I don't anticipate problems. I expect that using rated miles as an energy proxy or Wh/mile consumption versus miles traveled/remaining will be pretty straightforward for me. The longest leg I face on any long trip is 147 miles with relatively little elevation change by Colorado standards (Tremonton, UT to Twin Falls, ID). It isn't a route that I do in winter.
I'm also perfectly happy to drive 65 in the right lane if needed, as opposed to going 80-85, as seems so popular among performance-oriented Tesla drivers. It is a different mindset; I just listen to audio books and chill.�
Jan 29, 2016
DougH You will love it. Tesla's are so much funnier to drive than a Leaf.
Congrats!�
Jan 29, 2016
KJD Congrats on the new purchase. After driving the LEAF for that long you are really going to enjoy the Tesla, I am sure.
What are the details on the Tesla?�
Jan 29, 2016
pchilds You will be able drive at the speed limit again, I do now.�
Jan 29, 2016
abasile Very happy for you! I'm sure you will thoroughly enjoy your new ride.
For now, I'll be keeping myself content by reading of everyone's Tesla experiences here. My wife's preference is do a bit of long-postponed remodeling before we buy an expensive car. Since we pay cash for everything, this means waiting a bit longer (months, not years, thankfully).�
Jan 29, 2016
DougH Love that more and more people are able to get into Tesla's.�
Jan 29, 2016
dgpcolorado I really like driving the LEAF and it may well be more comfortable than the S, although that remains to be seen. I am looking forward to being able to take longer range trips, especially to Moab (about 145 miles) which I often do as a day trip or one-nighter. The back roads I use to get there are lovely and only used by a handful of locals.
I will really miss the heated steering wheel in the LEAF; I rarely use the heater here in sunny Colorado, even when it is 10 degrees F, so that isn't an issue for trips under an hour. I'm a thin-blooded Hawaiian so I dress warmly in winter but after three decades here I'm used to the snow and cold.
The S60 I am buying is basically the same "stripper" I would have ordered new (except that I would have liked a D for getting up my long steep driveway in winter; I'll get some cable chains for this car). It is white, has only 6000 miles on it and looks pretty new from the pictures. The idea was that even after a couple of years of driving it the car would still have some trade-in value, should I want to get a Model 3. Or I could keep it if I was happy with it. Not looking forward to driving a huge "land yacht" though. I do hope that I can fit my mountain bike in it without too much difficulty (I am tall so my bike is fairly large). So I am pleased that the S is a "liftback".
I have solar panels so I pay nothing for electricity (I've built up a 900 kWh credit over the years, so the extra electricity needed for the S, versus the more efficient LEAF, is covered). There are also Level 2 public charge stations at two of my main local destination cities. I use them so that people can see them getting used; EVs are still rare out here in the boondocks. [My grocery shopping trips are typically 70 miles round trip with 2500 feet of elevation change: it isn't suburbia. And all of my local driving involves steep hills, curvy mountain roads and significant elevation changes.]
And I am really looking forward to getting rid of my ICEV and going to just one car, a BEV, at long last.
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Yes, family concerns need to come first. I had some reasons for making the move now rather than waiting for the 3.
Should be fun driving the S from Ouray over Red Mountain Pass, as you can well imagine!�
Jan 30, 2016
DougH I don't know it it was just me or not but the 60 felt zippier, more nibble so yes I think it will be a blast over the pass.
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mama mia
85 kWh Performance Model S P63935 | Tesla Motors�
Jan 30, 2016
Wshowell Curious to what everyone's thoughts are on how best to spend $55k CPO all NON AP:
choice A: 60 battery, fully loaded with options, higher vin>40k, low miles <10k
choice B: 85 battery, few options, higher vin>40k, med miles >25k
choice C: 85P battery, stripped, low vin <5k, higher miles >40k
i live on the Ca coast with Superchargere in every direction (except the ocean) within 45 miles and never more than 100 miles away from 95% of my distance driving.�
Jan 30, 2016
DougH I would always go for the power of the P.�
Jan 30, 2016
viperboy I'm coming out with 131k brand new. looks like a 17k discount for <8k miles. A steal if you were looking at a new p85d imo�
Jan 30, 2016
Wshowell Always P even is it's a 2012 VIN under 500? Just trying to gauge evaluate the value of performance over, built quality, mileage aka wear and tear, versus features and range.�
Jan 30, 2016
DougH With the choices you gave yes. If it's a CPO Tesla is going to update the lower VIN somewhat. 60 are a blast to drive but, for me anyway, the range anxiety drove me nuts. The miles seemed to go down way to fast. And for me, an basic 85 is a no go.
I did search your price and there is a nice looking P85+, which gives you the power and the better suspension, might want to consider that.
85 kWh Performance Model S P18906 | Tesla Motors�
Jan 30, 2016
andrewknight i just made this same decision a couple weeks ago and went with option C. I was originally going to go with option B but decided that the P was worth the $5k premium. For mid 50's you will get a lower vin build but it doesn't have to be a stripper you just have to be patient�
Jan 30, 2016
Wshowell Thanks for the comments. I know you've had several S's so it's valuable. Funny, I'm literally in Manhattan right now on a business trip so this NY car has me thinking about the salt truck I saw dumping a ton of salt on Park Ave. gotta' be rough on any car. Walking back to my hotel tonight I passed a hotel "Roger Smith". The hotel has their own P85+ for chauffeuring their guests around right out front. How ridiculous is that purchase? A + with 21" to take someone to Times Square, Empire State, Central Park etc. someone uniformed basically checked every box possible when making the purchase for the hotel. A 60 would have been better for such things.
the link you provided is a sweet P85+. I'll be calling USAA to better understand how my rates will change depending on what I ultimately decide on.
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Thank you everyone, sitting back and reading your comments. Helpful!�
Jan 31, 2016
Drucifer I did C, but fully loaded and somewhat more than $55k. You will have a tough time finding a P85 without a lot of options, since the original P85 buyers were not skimping on the rest of the car.�
Jan 31, 2016
dhanson865 I'd go with A or B depending on color preference and options preferences and what A and B have.
Range isn't an issue for me and doesn't sound like it will be for you.
I'd specifically call Tesla and ask if any of your A or B options have the AP hardware and can have AP enabled. That alone would make me choose that car over one that didn't have that option.
Personally I'm avoiding cars that don't have that hardware though I could live without the software activated until sometime later, just so long as I have the software when I want to use it (given a couple hours or days, however long it takes to purchase the software upgrade).�
Jan 31, 2016
mrjedistud I went with option c. at $61k I was able to get a fully loaded p85. if you have to stay below $55k an older and or higher mileage option should be doable. you may have to wait a bit for the right car but you will be able to get something. best of luck.�
Jan 31, 2016
JPUConn CPO 70D with 50 miles (likely not the right mileage) for $69,500 in Florida
Model S 70D 094617 | Tesla Motors
Awd
white
pano
tan leather (not next gen)
glossy obeche
textile headliner
if it doesn't say autopilot that must mean another $3k to enable?�
Jan 31, 2016
cman8 I might be wrong but I thought someone said that all CPO cars had AP enabled on them. But its weird thats a 2015 and no AP. Frankly you could do better ordering new and getting the tax credits with a better package. Dont know why that one is listed without being eligible for credits.�
Jan 31, 2016
HankLloydRight For a while, Tesla offered the "Tech Package with Autopilot" before they broke it out separately and made the Tech package standard. This was likely a car that didn't opt for the Tech package, and therefore doesn't have AP.
Only Inventory ("new") cars are eligible for the tax credits (except in CO). Most CPO cars are used and therefore not eligible for the credits. This car is clearly a used car.
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Oh, I see, it only has 50 miles.
With no Tech Package or Autopilot, I really doubt this was an Inventory car (demo/loaner). Most demos/loaners are close-to fully loaded.
Who knows the story, but I'm sure this is definitely a CPO/used car.�
Jan 31, 2016
cman8 Just looked on hanks site and it list it as an AP car�
Jan 31, 2016
HankLloydRight Well, golly! So it does!
It also has the code for No Tech Package. So this is a coding error on Tesla's VIN webpage.�
Jan 31, 2016
cman8 Haha. Just replied from tapatalk, didnt realize it was you.�
Jan 31, 2016
freeewilly Model S 70D 094617 | Tesla Motors
No longer available...�
Jan 31, 2016
cman8 That one was weird, 50miles on it and still no tax incentives? That 90D has over 2k miles and still has the refunds available.�
Jan 31, 2016
irvineboy There is a lack of inventory right now and prices have all increased since Dec.�
Jan 31, 2016
dalamchops none of the cars listed w/ 50mi actually have 50mi on the ODO, it's just the placeholder until it gets updated.�
Jan 31, 2016
DougH Lack of inventory?, have you seen Hank's site?
There's 447 cars for sale, what is it that you are looking for that is not listed?�
Feb 1, 2016
sitter_k A dual motor cars in Canada.�
Feb 1, 2016
Cyclone However, a car produced when AutoPilot was part of the Tech Package, but the buyer didn't add the tech package would still come with the required hardware for it. Thus, this could be the previous owner didn't get the tech package, but Tesla activated AP as part of the certification process (like unlocking SpC on 60s). Just a guess though.�
Feb 1, 2016
DougH How could you have such an amazing car without Tech. That's like having an ipod without headphones�
Feb 1, 2016
HankLloydRight That's pretty much the only way this could happen, logically.
The problem still existed that this car didn't show Autopilot on the Tesla page, while it still had the option code for it.�
Feb 1, 2016
Cyclone After some people found cars with different options, colors, or even models from the description page, I stopped putting faith in that. But of course, that was like 100 pages back, so recent viewers wouldn't know about that.�
Feb 1, 2016
mkjayakumar Don't take the options listing in that page as gospel. Especially between tech package and AP. Just call a CPO advisor and ask. They would be able to find it for sure. Since these are in a service center, someone can walk over and confirm the options.
That was what happened in my case where the website listed mine as Tech Package with no mention of AP, but their internal records said AP. So someone walked over and confirmed that it had the hardware and also the software was enabled.�
Feb 1, 2016
SmartElectric Model S 85D 093619 | Tesla Motors Canada
Just came up on Tesla website, and obviously Hanks app today.
Go get it!�
Feb 1, 2016
cman8 Gone�
Feb 1, 2016
DougH That was fast!�
Feb 1, 2016
irvineboy So just because it lists "TP", there could be a chance that it may have AP? Not having pictures makes it difficult.
Let's say it has the AP hardware. How do you know if previous owner activated it so buyer does not have to pay additional $3000 to enable it?�
Feb 1, 2016
DougH Magical Unicorns are most likely not going to happen anymore. Tesla knows that AP is a wanted feature so it will most likely list all cars with it and activate it if it's not already activated. They can now charge a premium for it.�
Feb 1, 2016
sitter_k F that was fast. I just checked hanks at 730pm too!
How much was it?�
Feb 1, 2016
DougH $98900�
Feb 2, 2016
Dilbagh Did you pickup your car? Was everything else and the condition as you expected?�
Feb 2, 2016
Dilbagh Is there an app for Hanks website?�
Feb 2, 2016
HankLloydRight Not yet, I'm trying to find a good and efficient way to display dense tabular data on a mobile device.�
Feb 2, 2016
No2DinosaurFuel Thanks for listing the price. That is a pretty good deal considering it is about 70K or in usd. Add conversion fee and other taxes, it is not a bad deal for a 85D. Keep those prices rolling back!�
Feb 2, 2016
DougH well when you can now buy a P85D for the same price or less, I'd rather get the P85D.�
Feb 2, 2016
No2DinosaurFuel P85d for $70K cpo? Did i miss a great deal???!!!�
Feb 2, 2016
spentan (It was in CAD$)�
Feb 3, 2016
mkjayakumar Yes. Been driving it for a few days now and completely blown away by AP.
I have a 75 miles round trip commute and AP has definitely reduced my stress level quite a bit.�
Feb 3, 2016
DougH Since this thread is moving at a snails pace is that a sign that CPO sales are slowing?�
Feb 3, 2016
playoutside If anyone is looking for a P85+, here's a deal for you:
$55,000, VIN: P14838, 45K miles, grey on grey, 21" grey wheel, carbon decor and spoiler, tech, suspension, sound:
Pre-Owned Model S | Tesla Motors
I doubt it will last more than a day.�
Feb 3, 2016
flankspeed8 as slow as the X delivery threads? :tongue:�
Feb 3, 2016
DougH Yikes. Just read it :crying:�
Feb 3, 2016
playoutside [FONT=arial, sans-serif]Anyone fancy a Model S with no wheels?
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Feb 3, 2016
flankspeed8 Mildly sarcastic. X deliveries seem to be at a snails pace also. Seems like they are producing a lot but holding them at the SC for a qc check and some undisclosed/unknown repairs.�
Feb 3, 2016
FlatSix911 It's the very special edition James Bond Hovercraft model ...
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Feb 3, 2016
DougH No curb rash!�
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