Oct 17, 2012
GeorgeB Hi everyone,
I know the last few months have been quite frustrating surrounding two issues: Model S delivery dates and the sequence of deliveries. Our communication on these two issues has been weak at best. There are reasons for this, but it will only sound like an excuse if I try to explain them, so I will not.
What you need to know is that we have been intensely, intensely working on these issues. A personal communication will be going out today to all Signature reservation holders that have not received their car (or are scheduled to receive their car in the next few days). This communication will explain at a high level what has happened and what will happen going forward.
For those who have been caught up in this whirlwind of issues, I apologize for the inconvenience. Our first communication to help take care of this will be out soon.
Sincerely, GeorgeB�
Oct 17, 2012
steve841 George ... classy!
Nonetheless, I've vocally (so to speak) supported giving Tesla a lot of latitude as I appreciate the headaches you all are no doubt going through.
Anxiously and patiently waiting...�
Oct 17, 2012
kevincwelch Thanks, George.�
Oct 17, 2012
mnx Great news for all those who are waiting! I wonder if the personal communication will go out to the Canadian sigs as well.�
Oct 17, 2012
timdorr If any Sig holders don't mind, could they post this communication here? I think it would also help out the rest of us in line who are getting anxious.
And thanks, George, for taking charge of the situation and trying to make a change.�
Oct 17, 2012
AnOutsider I got a call from a Tesla rep today.. It was to tell me I had been transferred to a new delivery specialist. Coupled with this post.... Perhaps this means wheels are turning...�
Oct 17, 2012
efusco Thanks for making us aware and acknowledging the issues, George. It would be nice if the details were more public and at least the next 1000 or so post-Signature folks could get some sort of update to know what to expect as well.�
Oct 17, 2012
teslasguy Just talked with my Delivery Specialist who informed me that there is a huge push today getting cars out for delivery.
She didn't elaborate on the details, but simply stated that deliveries are once again in full gear and the plan is still for all Sigs to get delivered in the next few weeks.
I am P1117 and she said that based upon what she's seeing currently she would expect to see my paperwork come through to her within the next couple of weeks, and barring any new issues I should see delivery by the end of November. She was understandably very cautious in her replies, but did a great job of handling my questions in a very polite and professional manner.
I've NO doubt that everything that can be done to keep things moving (in a quality manner) is being done.
Patience cricket, patience. :-/
Thanks George!�
Oct 17, 2012
AnOutsider Hope George doesn't hate me for sharing
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Oct 17, 2012
steve841 I just got the GB email and appreciate the explanation... But it raised a question.
Exactly what does, "making changes to the Performance Model" mean?�
Oct 17, 2012
Mycroft That email could have been sent out a month ago. As soon as they started reaching forward in the reservation numbers, they should have realized that cars would be delivered out of sequence. Communication has always been Tesla's greatest weakness. Is it Elon's Achilles's heel? Even if it is, George as a marketing guy should know how valuable proper communication is to keeping customers happy.�
Oct 17, 2012
ckessel I appreciate, as always, George's contributions here and fairly direct phrasing. The words give me some hope, though assuaging the concerns/worries I've developed will be based in the deeds: useful communications, cars delivered on time, etc. Tesla often mentions being more like a tech company than a car company, which is usually good, but of late it's been too many of the less desirable tech cliches (it's 90% there, almost ready, just a couple bugs left, we'll fix that in a patch, etc...). Having been in far too many of those types of software projects, I know it feels horrible on either side of that customer/provider relationship.�
Oct 17, 2012
Mycroft They replaced the CF elements on the lower parts of the car with the same plastic used in non-Perf cars. The CF was getting damaged too easily.�
Oct 17, 2012
ElSupreme I am pretty sure he means the removal of the Carbon Fiber on the low points of the car.�
Oct 17, 2012
steve841 Ok.. I recall that. I figured since that change was some time ago, there was a new modification being made.�
Oct 17, 2012
ElSupreme It takes a long time to make a change like that. First you have to cancel all of your orders for the carbon fiber bits. Then make sure you can make the same bit out of plastic, and most likely change it. Then have someone make up a die and make a few test bits. Then you have to find someone that can supply thousands of those parts.
And then other things come up like will it paint properly?
Will it look acceptable?
Is it going to stay on once it gets ran onto a sidewalk?
... and so on. 'Little' stuff like that can takes months to get ironed out.�
Oct 17, 2012
Sparrow I hope George isn't saying that the 2 week delay we heard about over the last week or so is really going to be 4 to 6 weeks. In my book 2 to 4 of those weeks have already happened to any of us Signature buyers that had delivery windows given to them this month.�
Oct 17, 2012
steve841 The only flaw with that logic, which makes absolute sense, is that they already had existing parts for non perf models. So, other than a supply issue, there'd be no logical reason to "change" the perf model, just use what's in the bin.�
Oct 17, 2012
Jgdixon George
Someone posted your email already, which I didn't get. How does all this impact Canadian Signature reservation holders?
thanks�
Oct 17, 2012
Citizen-T I'm going to save this line in my toolbox if you don't mind George. I'm sure it will come in handy someday.�
Nov 27, 2012
3lectronica I don't think Tesla has gone that far out of sync. I be he has a Signature Performance, and he meant "Performance" by the "P".�
Nov 27, 2012
mnx That makes more sense... Someone asked him on that thread to clarify but I suspect you are right.�
Nov 27, 2012
jasonkelly Jason Kelly vin 1039....looks like Dec. 9�
Nov 27, 2012
kevincwelch Wow: a regular production vehicle took delivery??��?? :what:�
Nov 27, 2012
timdorr I'm pretty sure that's Performance 1187. I did some searching and it's suggested he's a Signature holder by his posts.�
Nov 27, 2012
Discoducky Possibly and I'd say probably: amcohen site:www.teslamotors.com/forum/forums - Bing�
Nov 27, 2012
Discoducky So, now there's this and the waters just got muddier: Model S Deliveries - latest actual info on dates and vehicles being delivered | Forums | Tesla Motors
Also, here is why I believe he is Production: Model S Deliveries - latest actual info on dates and vehicles being delivered | Forums | Tesla Motors
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Nov 27, 2012
sublimaze1 @ discoducky - I am not too convinced that this is anything major-league (e.g. muddied waters). I think this is a confluence of true fact, general pre-supposition, and rumor. I think the only thing that we (R and P) can hang our hat on is that Sigs needed to be finished first. Delivery to, say, Hawaii would have to be understood as a compromise for, say, P10 who gets his or her car at Fremont. One suggests Rs and Ps are mixed. I tend to believe this. One other suggested batching and delivery issues (e.g. 67 cars are along I10 through the US, so put as many on trucks as we can and if that means pulling P4XX, so be it). I would only succumb to pure confusion if P4,xxx got an email saying Dec 4-18, or R 1XX got an email saying Feb 4-18.
Either way, this is a hectic time for us (regular reservation holders, Tesla Employees, federal income tax filers) and within a few more weeks, we will have it all ironed out. That is not to say that we will all be happy, but the pieces of the puzzle will all be arranged.
In clich�s name,
WJ�
Nov 27, 2012
efusco Payment sent and authorization for shipping granted!! Apparently it can take 1-2 days to actually load and ship though.�
Nov 27, 2012
sublimaze1 Way to do, doc!�
Nov 27, 2012
adurstewitz I just received another reply for an HQ Product Specialist Team Lead stating that my car, P3853, is beyond the supply chain and actually in line at the factory. Another point of significance that he stated - "We are still on track for a late December delivery for your Model S."
Given the release of a batch of delivery emails, plus the concept of delivery events I think they're getting more bullish. I'm not saying it'll actually happen, but that Tesla seems to be getting more confident that they will.�
Nov 27, 2012
shokunin It's quite possible that anybody who's order a performance model (due to parts shortages or quality issues), 40kw, and 60kw packs are being skipped over in the production sequence in order to build cars that they can build and deliver. I'm sure there are some performance models being made based on what's available in their supply chain (priority for CAN Sigs), but maybe the nonperformance 85kw are being batched.�
Nov 27, 2012
ckessel Seems hard to believe, but given I'm P2840 I'll certainly maintain hope! Maybe Tesla has secretly been hiding thousands of bodies in white in an underground vault...�
Nov 27, 2012
driver_EV I got the email overnight and have a two week window for delivery beginning Dec. 16th!
No VIN yet.
Standard Model S, White, 85 kWh, Grey leather, GlassPanRoof, StudioSound, 19"wheels, ActiveAir, MattObeche, TwinCharge, HPC
R514�
Nov 27, 2012
JakeP Just to add another datapoint, I just called and inquired if it was possible for me to change from standard 85kWh to Performance. The response was no, as parts for all 85kWh builds through my sequence number had already been ordered, and I had been "sorted for production". My car won't likely hit the production line until early Jan, according the current guesstimate (which is what I had expected).�
Nov 27, 2012
Larry Chanin Hi Dave,
Thanks. I received confirmation a few minutes ago that its on its way!
See you later tonight.
Larry�
Nov 27, 2012
DouglasR Pardon me, but this sounds like the lead-in to a Gothic horror novel: "The Mad Scientist and his Army of Virgin Brides"�
Nov 27, 2012
ClearwaterBchSteve Yea! Congratulations Larry!�
Nov 27, 2012
efusco That's great Larry, wish they'd have loaded mine on the truck with yours.
Evan, Via Tapatalk�
Nov 27, 2012
ClearwaterBchSteve This is a bummer if true but it's highly possible since I'm noticing folks with much higher "P" sequence numbers posting that they have been "notified". From what I have seen, they are non-performance models.�
Nov 27, 2012
efusco Yea, that sure looks to be the case...wonder how much the cost for the perf is going to go up once the announce new pricing? Another $5k? (Not to derail the thread...)
Evan, Via Tapatalk�
Nov 27, 2012
EdA Intense!!!�
Nov 27, 2012
kjwcanary I finally have something substantive to add to the thread.....
Just got this response:
Hi Kevin,
Your Model S now has a VIN and an expected delivery in December. Your VIN is: xxxx01682
Updated delivery windows will be provided by the Delivery team. Once your vehicle is actually at the Seattle service center a member of the Delivery Expereince team will be able to schedule an exact day.
Best regards,
I'm P2159 - 85KWH, Grey, cloth seats, tech package, air suspension, studio sound in WA�
Nov 27, 2012
adurstewitz Wow, that is excellent Kevin. It seems things are really starting to roll!
P3853 - 85kW, Grey, 19'', Air Ride, Tech, Child Seats
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Nov 27, 2012
Rodolfo Paiz I have a question for y'all. I have a Roadster and ordered within the window of early sequencing, and My Tesla says I have #459. That makes me R459, right?�
Nov 27, 2012
mcornwell A confirmed P reservation holder in the 2000's with a VIN? Awesome!�
Nov 27, 2012
LakeForest Do vin #'s reset with production cars or are you extremely lucky and have one of the first 500 production cars? If they reset time to buy some stock!�
Nov 27, 2012
AndyM You have COMPLETELY made my day! Thank you!
I'm P1988, in the Portland metro area, and I was wondering if I would have my car before year's end!
I have more hope now.
(I know: Hope is not a strategy.)�
Nov 27, 2012
metafor Was this before or after you had confirmed? I was under the impression that upon confirmation, you can choose either the performance or standard.�
Nov 27, 2012
Robert.Boston Received my magic email at 5:49pm EST. P1635, non-performance 85kWh, green, pano, air suspension, Tech, Sound Studio, tan leather, lacewood, delivered to Boston. Delivery window December 5-19.
W00t!!�
Nov 27, 2012
kjwcanary Maybe our cars will be on teh same truck�
Nov 27, 2012
DouglasR For what it's worth, of the Rs that recently got this delivery email, quite a few of them are Performance cars. I understand that they might have treated Ps differently, but clearly whatever shortages there may have been did not prevent them from scheduling deliveries of General Production Performance cars to R reservation holders.�
Nov 27, 2012
efusco It should have an "R" before the number if its an R sequence
Evan, Via Tapatalk�
Nov 27, 2012
DouglasR Kevin, is your car Performance or non-performance?�
Nov 27, 2012
kjwcanary Non performance�
Nov 27, 2012
JakeP Congrats Robert.Boston....will yours be the FIRST green delivered???!!!�
Nov 27, 2012
kjwcanary Do you have a VIN? Curious where mine is (VIN1682), compared to yours.
Congrats BTW!�
Nov 27, 2012
mcornwell <------ <scrambles to check Junk Mail folder for 'tesla'>�
Nov 27, 2012
Rich105 I've got the same config as Robert.Boston (green/tan/lacewood, pano, 85kw, active air, tech, sound). I was reservation R43 - picking mine up tomorrow at factory! VIN 01261.�
Nov 27, 2012
Trnsl8r Green? Fantastic. There better come a slew of pictures tomorrow...�
Nov 27, 2012
JakeP Sweet!!! Please post pics of your green machine, to help tide me over until mine arrives in 2013!�
Nov 27, 2012
efusco Interesting, I'm R77 with VIN 1267, just 5 over you, but with a 34 difference in sequence numbers. Hard to believe 29 people between us dropped their reservations.
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Current theory is that these are all non-performance going out now and that there is a backlog on the performance parts.�
Nov 27, 2012
strider From what I can tell Performance and/or CF interiors are in short supply so it's likely that folks in between you are being delayed by parts shortages which would account for the jump in sequence numbers.
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Correct.�
Nov 27, 2012
ToddRLockwood All righty then, Robert! Sounds like a beautiful combination.�
Nov 27, 2012
Babylonfive Everyone keep in mind that the 60 and 40KWH are being skipped until those packs are approved. My rep told me to day that the 60KWH pack is likely to be approved for early January deliveries, but I'm not holding my breath. <sad look>�
Nov 27, 2012
Petrokalis AWESOME! That's the exact same as my car (excluding the delivery to Boston). Hope to hear something myself soon (P2420).
:biggrin:�
Nov 27, 2012
Todd Burch I'm P1577 (a few before Robert.Boston), also 85 kWh non-Perf, in somewhat the same area as Robert (MA vs. VA) and haven't received any email. There seem to be other factors at play.
Edit:
Just called Tesla. They indicated that I should expect to hear from Tesla within 2-3 weeks regarding scheduling and delivery finalization. He expects my car will likely be delivered at the very tail end of December (YIKES! Cutting it close for this year's tax credit!)
He said that I have no VIN yet, but they sometimes come in batches. (He said the next batch of VINs should be coming in within 2-3 days). I asked if my car had started production, and he wasn't entirely certain but might get an update within a few days.
He thinks in 2-3 weeks when Tesla contacts me I should have a much better idea of when I'll get my car. For those Ps with higher numbers and delivery timelines already, I'm happy for you--but admit it's a little bit of a bummer getting my car after you guys! (I'm ashamed to feel that way...hehe)
I wouldn't care if I weren't so close to the end of the year, but yikes I might just barely make the cutoff.
A few more bits of info:
The Tesla rep I spoke to on the phone said they're full bore through the holidays. Not sure if they get XMas day off itself, but the other days they'll be working. (Possibly X-Mas as well).
Finally, it seems that determining whether your car will be delivered by the end of the year based on your P number will be futile. The sequence is random enough that if you are anywhere near the cutoff (+/- 1000 or more cars), you are just in a gray area and won't know until you get a delivery timeline from Tesla.�
Nov 27, 2012
aviators99 My car left the factory on the carrier last night. My DS has been in touch with the shipping company, and it will be at the service center in Dania Beach on Monday or Tuesday.�
Nov 27, 2012
adurstewitz I just had a similar conversation with the a rep about my reservation. He said to check back in a couple of days for a VIN.
Getting close!
- Andrew
P3853 - 85kW, Grey, 19'', Air Ride, Tech, Child Seats
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Nov 27, 2012
DouglasR That theory does seem to be holding up -- I haven't been able to find any performance Ps with delivery notices -- but it's not true of the Rs. Plenty of performance cars there.
As to CF, I have performance but no CF, #P983, and I've heard nothing. I suppose they could defer all performance vehicles just because it is simpler.�
Nov 27, 2012
Todd Burch I have the same config as you, minus the twin chargers. Please post pics and impressions in the Delivery thread when you get it--can't wait to see this config!�
Nov 27, 2012
inkynote I'm confused regarding which "reservation number" people are using. Our original number, which in My Garage is to the right under the words "Model S" is #1574. When we finalized our order, we were given RN009924 which resides under "Reservation Number" in My Garage. Is Robert.Boston's P1635 the pre or post finalization reservation #? Are we P1574 or P9924? I think we must be P1574 because I can't think of any version of sequencing which pushes us to the 9924 number.
We are general production, non-performance, 85 kWh, active-air, 19", twin chargers, brown, tan leather, lacewood, pano, jump seats, parcel shelf. Olympia, WA.�
Nov 27, 2012
Todd Burch You sound like P1574. Robert is P1635. I bet you and I reserved within a few days of each other.�
Nov 27, 2012
NigelM That's your sequence number....which most people here call your reservation number. Cars are not produced exactly in order for a variety of reasons (not limited to, but including production batching and delivery logistics) but, based on other activity up-thread, #1574 is likely to see some action in the near future�
Nov 27, 2012
Tempus Echo on the sad look there. I was expecting to be far enough back in line that the 60 kwh battery wouldnt affect my order. I really hope we hear something about those battery packs soon. Would love to at least hear EPA numbers.
On the other hand, it really is vicariously exciting to see so many R and P numbers being contacted today.�
Nov 27, 2012
Mike_Schlechter Interesting, I have green, obeche, pano, tech, and am P457 and not a peep. Oh well.
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I promised myself I wouldn't email Tesla, and I would be patient, but seeing all the P's I just emailed. Hoping to hear something soon.
Trying SO hard to be patient!
P457 - been waiting since March 2009...�
Nov 27, 2012
EdA Woohoo!!!�
Nov 27, 2012
Rodolfo Paiz My reservation number is "RNxxxxxx" with the x's being a six-digit number. But at the left, below where it says "Model S Performance", it only says #459.�
Nov 27, 2012
gg_got_a_tesla I concede, Robert�
Nov 27, 2012
JRod0802 Congratulations! I'm glad you're getting it before year-end. That must be a big relief.�
Nov 27, 2012
Liz G My advice is go to the Teslamotors forum and post your question on the Bulletin board. If enough of us 60kw's keep asking maybe they will post us some kind of answer.�
Nov 27, 2012
Robert.Boston Thanks, I'm thrilled. Also helps avoid emergency tax maneuvers. As promised, I signed up for delivery in front of the Hancock Tower (where I work, and home to Bain Capital and a dozen other private equity firms) -- partly because it's easier for me than home, but partly to attract a lot of attention. There was a gorgeous Ferrari delivered there last month; now it's Tesla Time!�
Nov 27, 2012
dsmith2189 Has anyone else noticed that the "P"s getting their delivery window seem to be all 19" wheels?�
Nov 27, 2012
DouglasR I got a VIN tonight! 01527. More info to come. P983 PERFORMANCE. No CF.�
Nov 27, 2012
ClearwaterBchSteve This is killing me now! I'm being held up by choosing carbon fiber accents??? argh! Congrats!�
Nov 27, 2012
NigelM CF is slow to produce compared to other materials and, from my reading, seems to very difficult to achieve consistent quality. Wouldn't surprise me if CF is a hold up and it wouldn't surprise me if it eventually disappears as an option.�
Nov 27, 2012
steve841 It's worth it!�
Nov 27, 2012
dsm363 I agree. If it is really what you want, the wait will be worth it.�
Nov 27, 2012
ModelS1079 Robert, that is truly magical. Thrilled thrilled thrilled for you. So good. Hey I can not help but wonder - no news for me, P1079 (recall I am 85 tan pano air tech sound armor obiche gloss -Detroit I know!). Should I give them a call?
And really happy for you. The wait has been great, but the ride ahead will be phenomenal. Bravo!�
Nov 27, 2012
contaygious Clearwater we need to hang in their for our sweet cf! It's so much nicer than I've seen in other cars.
Congrats to everyone getting dates!�
Nov 27, 2012
Tempus love it! can't wait to hear the delivery report for this one�
Nov 27, 2012
ClearwaterBchSteve I'm totally with you on that! I can feel things starting to move now with "P's" being notified. My wife and I had a chance to drive the car and see a number of different configurations at Test Drive. I stand by our option choices. I as well am excited for everybody who is getting their cars. We are all part of history in the making. It will be a great "ride"�
Nov 27, 2012
Doug_G The story I heard is that they couldn't produce high quality CF at the planned production rate, so they had to get a second mold set made. That takes weeks. Presumably that's all sorted out by now, but of course there's now a backlog to clear.�
Nov 27, 2012
austinm3 Just as an FYI, I am P210, and I called today. They had no info for me. They gave me a probably December with no details. I have performance and no carbon fiber.
Happy for those 2000+ getting emails, but feeling a little shorted like the sigs did. I put the deposit down 7:30am the morning I saw the press release 3.5 years ago. I would hope I would see the car this year.
I am in Kentucky a bit out of the way. Wonder if location batching is the problem for me.�
Nov 27, 2012
timdorr Did you get a date range?
P.S. All this info is giving my spreadsheet quite the workout. If any Tesla employees are reading this and my spreadsheet has been a thorn in your side for a while, you can feel satisfied that you've made my job very difficult this week�
Nov 27, 2012
mklcolvin It looks like these are all 85 kWh cars; could TM be batching the orders by battery pack size? I'm a 60 kWh - has there been any of these delivered yet?�
Nov 27, 2012
Zythryn What size battery pack?�
Nov 27, 2012
Discoducky Nope, I haven't see anything for 60kWh before Jan/Feb. But keeping my fingers crossed. BTW, great handle!�
Nov 27, 2012
austinm3 Performance only comes in 85kwh.�
Nov 27, 2012
ModelS1079 Guessing:
There were lots of cancellations accumulated over 3.5 years in the first 2500 non-sig, R and P cars. Example: I was told by a reliable Tesla rep (VP) that there were 400 non-cancelled R's, but there were many more than 400 R's sequenced. Same for P's, I suspect. And they are ramping up -BIGTIME. and they are all 85s so far - I was told 3 weeks ago that 60s would not be touched until January, which was new then. And they have been holding cars while the last sigs, as feasible, hit the road. As a result, we see Tesla flying thru the R's and now well-into the Ps. Here we go.
Are these not great days? Remember the first day you signed n here and were a little surprised to discover there was a whole network of like-minded zealots? Remember e first few posts in July from the first few owners? Pioneers like Ron and Barbara, Dadaleus, and many others. My number will come. Got my popcorn again and ready to watch everyone else's delivery announcements fly. Bring it on.�
Nov 27, 2012
DouglasR Sorry my post was so cryptic. We were at the theater, and I had just a few moments to respond on my phone.
So I had asked a contact in the Ownership Experience team if he could give me an update on my car. It took him a couple of days, but tonight at around 5:30 he emailed me to say "it's getting close." He gave me my VIN (01527), and said we should have more info in a couple of days, and that the Delivery Team is reaching out to as many people as possible.
This is not as good as getting the "It's time to set up delivery" email, but I certainly feel very hopeful that this will be coming soon. The communication is significant in a couple of respects. First, there has been a lot of speculation that Performance cars were being delayed. Mine is the first Performance P that I know of to get a VIN. Possibly there is a delay involving carbon fiber (I have Lacewood trim, and no spoiler), but at least they are not delaying all Performance cars.
Second, his comment that the Delivery Team is reaching out to as many people as possible implies to me that we just need to be patient. We haven't seen a large enough sample to draw conclusions about which features are causing delays. I suspect that in a few days, this will become much clearer. It is quite possible that some delivery specialists are simply more swamped than others, and that is what is causing the seeming randomness of the sequence numbers we are seeing.
So for those who are curious:
#P983
VIN 01527
P85 Performance
Pearl White
Pano Roof
19" Wheels
Tan Leather
Lacewood
Tech Package
Sound Studio
Active Air
No child seats, package shelf, spoiler, or twin chargers
To be delivered to Seattle�
Nov 27, 2012
dennis25 That is awesome, Robert! haven't heard anything yet but i'm checking my email every six seconds. i'm going to stay optimistic and hope that they're going to put my car on your delivery truck. i'll keep you posted. (p1675 - silver, black leather interior, 85kwh, sound and tech package, air suspension)�
Nov 28, 2012
Francis Lau Mike, I recommend that you email tesla to check in. I think you will get good info from them.�
Nov 28, 2012
ClearwaterBchSteve This is a puzzle, theoretically since you don't have carbon fiber, you should be getting notified like the other "P's" with 85KWh- there must be something else... I too put down my deposit within a day or so of the original announcement - I was away on a business trip and did it from my laptop in a hotel room. I'm in Florida, even farther from Fremont,CA than Kentucky�
Nov 28, 2012
napabill To add to the confusion, I received my VIN#, after requesting it, a couple of days ago. I agreed to not post it here for a couple of days so as to not rile things up. I'm P-83 and my VIN# is 1571 and may be available for factory delivery this weekend. It is curious that P-983 has VIN#1527, well after my P# but well under my VIN#. Also I saw a posting that P-153 is being delivered at Hawthorne on Friday. Inconsistencies seem numerous.
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Forgot to mention that P-83 is Non-Perf, Brown with Tan, Solid Roof, standard sound, Active Air Suspension, Tech, Obeche Matte, 19" wheels.�
Nov 28, 2012
stinnett_P813 I am in the same boat as you. I placed my deposit over 3 years ago. I called yesterday and was given the same information. Which was really that they have no information. All she could say was that I should get it by mid January. My car is 85 kwh performance, blue, no carbon, 21" wheels. I may be wrong, but I am starting to think the wheels may be a hold up. I have only seen a couple 21" wheels with delivery information.�
Nov 28, 2012
badgerlake Same here (P264). I wish they would just tell me if it's the 21" wheels, b/c then i'd just buy the winter tire package w/ 19" wheels and wait for the 21s when available.�
Nov 28, 2012
EdA I too was making that conclusion (21" wheels will slow down your order).
Was going to do some data mining on the delivery spreadsheet but:
a.) options are one field
2.) it seems very slow
iii.) got too much real work to do
/Ed�
Nov 28, 2012
contaygious Same here. I deposited very early. I'm told about a week or two until I hear something.
Glad to hear some perf #s contacted, but still don't see any dark rims and only a handful of cf trim in the spreadsheet. I've got to assume they are coming in slower.
Congrats to napa Bill! Hopefully you pickup this weekend!�
Nov 28, 2012
napabill As was said by someone else, nice to have some information, but I don't hear no fat lady singing just yet!�
Nov 28, 2012
Arnold Panz We saw the same thing with the Sigs where some people seemed to jump the line with their VIN relative to their reservation number, and others were way behind. I wouldn't try to discern that it's this or that part (21"wheels, cf, geography etc.). The factory is kind of like a chef getting tons of orders at once and just picking which meals to make in whatever order is best for him, regardless of who placed their order first. Assuming that they get ramped up to 400 cars/week soon, it shouldn't impact delivery times too much (and not nearly as much as it did the out of order Sigs), and you'll drive yourself crazy trying to figure out why one car is ahead or behind in line relative to where it "should" be.�
Nov 28, 2012
bosgig I have a Feb/Mar delivery estimate (P8189). Interestingly, I was told by a Tesla rep that if I order 85kwh with active air, my delivery will likely be in January since those are "in production". I find it surprising, if true, that I would skip that far up. Any others hearing this?�
Nov 28, 2012
adurstewitz Yes, Tesla has said constantly that general production will be built in batches rather than in order. This is why we are seeing huge jumps in the sequence numbers getting there email/VIN right now.�
Nov 28, 2012
Schlermie Since Tesla was having supplier issues for a few months, I have this image of a huge stockpile of partially built cars arrayed into a corner of their facility someplace. Now that the supplier issues are mostly resolved, they can start completing those partially built vehicles, but they can only access the ones at the edge of their stockpile, because the others are painted into a corner. As a result, the cars end up getting completed in a random order as they start pulling cars from the edge of the array.�
Nov 28, 2012
artsci Not what I was told. I ordered 85kwh with active air and my delivery range is Feb/March.�
Nov 28, 2012
austinm3 I reached out to them again today, and they are looking into it. They told me that there should be nothing in the way of my being in production since they are producing cars like mine right now (mine is very similar to a signature ... basically maxed out). However, he still did not have a VIN or delivery range even though all paperwork is in order, and there seems to be no reason for me not have been contacted.�
Nov 28, 2012
ModelS1079 A Tesla Convoy to Massachusetts would be perfect. Spoke w Tesla and looks like my delivery window will not be available for still a couple of weeks, but "very likely" to be delivered this year. I'll go with that.�
Nov 28, 2012
PureAmps I have the same delivery estimate of Feb/Mar, and had been assuming that means an April delivery based on the delivery rate of signature vehicles and the publicly stated production ramp. But several recent events have led me to believe I will be getting my vehicle sooner rather than later.
The first indication was that Solar City moved up my EV plug installation by two months. They contacted me in late October saying I had no vehicle delivery date, so it would be weeks before my installation would be completed. Then less than a week later (and the day after the Tesla earnings release), they called me up and said that based on my vehicle's delivery date they wanted to schedule installation ASAP. The work was completed the following week. I really didn't think much of it at the time, but something increased their sense of urgency.
Obviously the flurry of general production activity in the past couple of days is a strong indication that production is ramping quite well, despite apparent shortages of certain trim components.
The final piece of evidence for me was watching the Nat Geo manufacturing video and their recent talk of price increases. I have always suspected that Tesla was low-balling their 20k/year vehicle number to set expectations low in case of problems with manufacturing, low demand, etc. They clearly do not have a demand problem, North America alone can easily consume 20k/year based on reservations rates. The price increase further shows that demand is not a problem, as they are already optimizing profit margins. And after watching the video, they clearly can churn out way more than 20k cars a year on that line, assuming supply chain issues are worked out. In one segment of the video they showed a step in final assembly where the team was trying to complete that step in under 4 minutes and 40 secs. If you are only producing 400 cars/week over two shifts you do not need station cycle times under 5 minutes. That's less than 32 hours/week of work on that one station (basically less than one shift).
So while I don't expect my car in January, I'm thinking February is now a more realistic possibility...�
Nov 28, 2012
HFh Same here, I'm 7889... but, I have carbon fiber. Is that's what is holding us back?�
Nov 28, 2012
Lyon I reached out to Tesla yesterday about my delivery date and got a reply today. Nothing new to report, only that I would be contacted 2-4 weeks in advance and that I'm still looking at a January delivery. That feels like a long way away but I'm looking at my calendar and it's really not. Even if it's more like the middle of February (what I'm expecting) it's still not that far away.
For further reference I ordered: Blue/Tan/Matte Obeche, Performance, Silver 21", spoiler, Tech, dual chargers, sound, jumpseats, paint armor. Pretty sure I only left off the parcel shelf and the HPWC.�
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