Apr 28, 2015
jgs Me too. Actually I just kicked it back to "normal" today to spare my family on a road trip. Yes, I can retrain my foot, but why?�
Apr 28, 2015
LetsGoFast I don't see any changes to the notes.�
Apr 28, 2015
majorlance Just received my update notice and it is in progress... But (as a prior couple of posts mentioned), what exactly does Sport mode vs. Insane do? I've kept my P85D in Insane mode (a little bit of self awareness for me) since the car was delivered.
Are there any advantages other than a slightly slower acceleration? Is it smoother, less jerky etc.? I find that I can manage (read baby) the accelerator as needed in Insane but can go "to 11" if needed with the Insane setting. Just wondering...�
Apr 28, 2015
andrewket I've been keeping insane mode on as well, and have no problems controlling the rate of acceleration with the pedal. I've switched it to sport a few times on road trips, but I don't think it was necessary.�
Apr 28, 2015
MarcG Per the last update on this (.168):
"Insane mode is now more insane! Your car accelerates even faster when in insane mode, improving 0-to-60-mph performance in this mode from 3.2 seconds to 3.1 seconds. The accelerator pedal is also now more responsive in insane mode."
(emphasis mine)�
Apr 28, 2015
majorlance Hmmm. It was pretty responsive before! I bet that is where the other .1 seconds of acceleration comes from... not an increase in power.
So now Sport mode might make a little more sense...
Thx!�
Apr 28, 2015
electrish I got .188 today, too, over the air.
And it appeared during the day, which is a first for me, since all other upgrades appeared at night.
I never received .168; anything new in .188? I didn't find any surprises in the release notes.
- - - Updated - - -
Insane and Sport are still there on P85D.
However, I don't think that they are interchangeable.
I've played around to see if both are similarly efficient during my hilly commute and I feel that Sport is more efficient than Insane.
I can get to the low 300s Wh/mi in Sport, while I am stuck in the mid to high 300s in Insane, even when mostly using TACC and Range Mode on the highway.
This difference may be due to the more powerful rear motor in the P85D, compared with the 85D.
Maybe that's why both driving modes are still available on the P85D.�
Apr 28, 2015
MarcG Ever since the SW version that included torque sleep was released (I believe it was 6.1 2.2.139), I've left my settings in INSANE mode and RANGE MODE = ON and have been averaging around 340 Wh/mi.�
Apr 28, 2015
REBroker I just installed 188 on my P85D, coming from 153, I thought we were already at 0-60 on 3.1secs, I'm I wrong? I went out and tested it, the acceleration is certainly different, it seems more aggressive. I was quite impressed, it just felt more supercar like. I think I'm in love all over again! I loved the aggressiveness, hopefully I'm not just hallucinating! I felt like the car was just jumping a bit and way more fun. Can any one else confirm this?�
Apr 28, 2015
AllenWong The acceleration has been quicker since version .168. So at 153, you didn't increase it yet. Now you did.�
Apr 28, 2015
majorlance Yep. I went right to .188. Over the last couple of days, felt a little left out as I didn't receive the .168 release. Stuck on .153 (I think?).
I may switch to the sport mode for daily usage. I only charge to about 80% (200 miles) and most days only drive 10 miles or so (but some days maybe 50). I figure that 80% doesn't stress the battery any more than 60%. And I actually have taken to setting it to rated range mode in miles (vs. percentage). Just makes me feel better... Sorta like a full tank of gas used to! The percent of battery was stressing me out... Funny how habits and emotions are hard to change.�
Apr 28, 2015
REBroker
Thanks, regoapps. When you went from .153 to 168, did you feel a big change on initial acceleration for launches? Or was it a "meh" improvement? Upon first impressions it feels drastic for me.�
Apr 28, 2015
GonzoDad Just updated to .188. The increased power off of the line is quite noticeable, as is the pedal sensitivity. :biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:
Motors seem a bit louder as well, which is fine with me.�
Apr 28, 2015
breser I don't think there's any efficiency differences if you don't really slam on the peddle. The first night they added sport I thought their might have been, but it was particularly bad weather. Having put a few thousand miles on since I don't think there's any difference. Including this morning getting the best efficiency I've seen yet (259 Wh/mile) on my 70 mile highway commute.�
Apr 28, 2015
REBroker
Glad I'm not hallucinating! I'm loving this update, it just feels nice after getting used to the previous performance to get a new punch in power
I also noticed the motor be more, noisy, but not horribly so and worth the tradeoff imo.�
Apr 28, 2015
FlyingJat This may be totally dumb -
What is tracker? Why your answering me, how do I update it?�
Apr 28, 2015
Phil K Here's the tracker:
Firmware Upgrade Tracker - Tesla Motors Club - Enthusiasts & Owners Forum�
Apr 28, 2015
R�B So unless you have a P85D or a non performance model Tesla won't be providing you any performance improvements.
All of us P85 owners should start a support group.�
Apr 28, 2015
kabirakhtar just got today's software update notification for my 60. hooray for not being entirely obsolete!�
Apr 29, 2015
LVSP85D Still running on .168 and waiting for .188.�
Apr 29, 2015
LVSP85D Did anyone with .168 get .188 update?�
Apr 29, 2015
benjiejr And @GonzoDad... I also noticed the significant difference along with a passenger. I was wondering if it was my imagination. Even 30-60 feels much improved.�
Apr 29, 2015
FlyingJat Yep- upgraded overnight. Heading out to check it out shortly�
Apr 29, 2015
AutoExcited Has anyone tested the 1/4 mile time since the update to a faster insane mode? Also, at one point, there was talk of a more responsive, faster "mid-range" 60-120 or 60-90, that was in addition to the top end update and the 0-60 update, do we know if that's still coming and if so when? Final question, has anyone tested the faster 0-60 and found it to be in the high 2's or is it just getting down into 3.0 seconds speed now?�
Apr 29, 2015
steve841 I think Tesla should add to P85's ....
"Not Quite Insane Mode"�
Apr 29, 2015
dirkhh Quite easy to see in the tracker - yes, a few people did get .188 after having had .168, but the majority of the upgrades seem to come from .153 (and one came from all the way back .124 - not sure if PhilK really skipped that many versions or just forgot to enter one of the upgrades he got)�
Apr 29, 2015
LVSP85D i was among the first batch to get .168 and am still awaiting for .188. Hopefully there will be further improvement from my perspective.�
Apr 29, 2015
dirkhh Sorry I do not own a stopwatch that is accurate to 1/10th of a second.
- - - Updated - - -
Or, I am a little netter than SPORT but not quite insane mode.
Or. FAST and FASTER (quick and quicker?)
- - - Updated - - -
I too went form 153 to 188 last night/�
Apr 29, 2015
MarcG Strange, I can't PM you... sorry to clutter the forum... would you mind adding and upgrade entry to the tracker?�
Apr 29, 2015
MSEV Yep, I did.�
Apr 29, 2015
swengl I was thinking "Nearly Insane" mode for us 85D drivers...
I went from something (I can't remember now, probably .168) to .188 last night.�
Apr 29, 2015
tomas I installed .188 update last night. On my first drive today about 5 miles into the drive a warning came up telling me to contact Tesla Service about the TPMS sensor. It can't be a coincidence.�
Apr 29, 2015
ivg That's called "neurotic mode"�
Apr 29, 2015
REBroker Yep I did, and to be honest didn't see any difference whatsoever...�
Apr 29, 2015
Phil K
I guess part of it may be how one drives, this morning while going to the office I couldn't really push it much and had to just sit back and take it easy, during that whole drive it felt the same as before. But if one drives more aggressively, the car seems to respond better.�
Apr 29, 2015
dirkhh No, I didn't skip anything. I'm from Hong Kong so the update pathway may be different from US cars. As far as I know, many Hong Kong people got nothing after .124 till yesterday when they started to have .188.�
Apr 29, 2015
commasign I got .188 yesterday and on the brief drive to the service center for a scheduled visit I thought I did notice that the fun pedal seemed more... "direct" for lack of a better term. It may all be in my head, of course, but yes, I'd say it felt peppier.
And then I got a P85 as a loaner. And I was shocked how sedate and almost sluggish it felt in comparison. This is not intended as a dig on the people who love their P85 and keep telling us that the P85D really is no faster. And the loaner is an odd duck... VIN49503, yet it does have AP (so this must be one of the first AP cars produced - there are cars all the way into the 52k range that don't have the AP hardware). And of course it has the "loaner mode", but I thought that only limits the car to 80 or 85mph and shouldn't affect acceleration. The loaner is on .160, btw.
Anyway, I was very surprised just HOW MUCH peppier the P85D is compared to the P85.
- - - Updated - - -
Thanks for the clarification - Hank had mentioned to want to add the geo location as additional information to the tracker. The problem is that our sample is still fairly small so it may not contain enough data to make the geo data relevant, but still, it would be another interesting angle into all that...�
Apr 29, 2015
brianman Haven't noticed any performance improvement in .188. But torque sleep seems to be much more aggressive. I'm able to cruise at 70mph with the power meter halfway between 0kW and 30kW.�
Apr 29, 2015
AmpedRealtor P85Sig and P85D with .153 -- even my passengers can distinguish the quickness of the two easily. And I love both.
P85D got .188 last night, but it was wet out so I didn't test it out much.�
1/1/2015
guest I suspect your recent update included changes to the pedal mapping. Elon hinted at new pedal mapping coming in 7.0, maybe they are introducing it earlier than expected or are simply trying it out?�
Apr 29, 2015
Gizmotoy It has a lot more torque, it wouldn't be unheard of for the P85D to feel quite a bit snappier than the P85. That said, it's extremely easy to manipulate that feeling by altering the pedal response (manufacturers particularly love to do this with their low-HP cars). Reality is, it's just about impossible to make an objective judgement on peppiness if the possibility of a pedal response change is in the mix.�
Apr 29, 2015
blogth My 85D shipped from factory on 4/10/15 with .124 installed; Received and installed .188 yesterday. No intervening updates. Regen appears to take a slightly longer to kick in; Acceleration much snappier, TACC smoother. Love this machine.�
Apr 29, 2015
morbot I went from .124 to .188 last night, but I think the middle patch mostly effected P models right? I'm on a standard.
Was too tired & zoned out this morning to pay attention to any different feel of the car, will see how the evening commute goes.�
Apr 29, 2015
LVSP85D Did u notice any difference?�
Apr 29, 2015
Todd Burch I also went from .124 to .188 on my autopilot P85 today. I didn't notice any changes.�
Apr 29, 2015
Phil K S85 delivered 3/28 and updated to .188 2 days ago. I agree that regen seems to take longer to kick in.�
Apr 29, 2015
andrewket That's a shame. I rather like have direct control of regen using the accelerator. I'd also prefer stronger regen.�
Apr 29, 2015
breser I've got .188 and I haven't seen any difference in regen. I'm deeply skeptical of any claims of changes to regen because every single update there are people claiming that. That's not to say that Telsa never makes changes to the regen, it's just a very difficult thing to measure and the car doesn't behave 100% consistently so it's easy to think there has been a change when there really hasn't.�
Apr 29, 2015
SteveS0353 Classic (non-AP) P85+ updated to 6.2 (2.4.188) this evening. I've updated the firmware tracker.�
Apr 30, 2015
ecarfan My 85 (December 2013 build) just got .188. I was on .124�
Apr 30, 2015
dirkhh Thanks for that, we still see non-AP cars get 101.36.2 but have very few that got 2.4.188. I talked to my SC yesterday and they couldn't explain the 101.36.2, either.
Would you mind adding your data? We have only two entries for .188 in the tracker, JoeNe and SteveS0353 (and no entries at all from you :c )�
Apr 30, 2015
breser Has anyone else noticed that TuneIn and Slacker are really flaky in .168 and .188. Prior to those two releases they worked very reliably. But now I have crackling followed by short drop outs of sound fairly often. Given the crackling I don't think it's losing 3G since that was always just a silent drop off before.�
Apr 30, 2015
OrlandoKen I just got.188
I had 6.2 and it just updated to .188. Anyone know what's in it?�
Apr 30, 2015
NigelM Nothing new. It's just bug fixes.�
Apr 30, 2015
benjiejr 
The go pedal does seem more responsive and it feels quicker. Nothing scientific. But that's what the notes also claim.�
Apr 30, 2015
benjiejr I've been on .188 for a couple days and I haven't noticed this.�
Apr 30, 2015
dirkhh I assume you did the post-install reboot? Just checking... I haven't spent much time in the car since .188 but I've had random Slacker issues after upgrades in the past and often they went away with a reboot.�
Apr 30, 2015
dsm363 There is a sticky thread at the top of this section.�
Apr 30, 2015
dirkhh And there is a tracker that allows us to understand the firmware roll-out better...
OP: would you mind adding your data to the tracker? You can create a login here, add a few simple stats on the car and then enter the update...�
Apr 30, 2015
SteveS0353 I installed .188 last night on my classic (non-AP) P85+, and did a post-install reboot this morning before I took the car out of the garage. There are 2 issues I've noticed already...
I tried an other reboot when I got back home, but the charge locations are still not showing up on the nav display.
- It took a good hour before the radio (XM or FM) would play, although the media app was able to detect the signal and displayed the details of what was playing correctly, but no sound. I tried changing the source and channels several times, but nada. Then when I got back home and opened the door, the radio suddenly sprang to life. Very odd, never experienced that before after an upgrade.
- The nav display is not showing the places I've charged before, even my home, although they all appear in the "Visited Chargers" list under Places.
The driving experience seems no different at all, and I was not able to identify any difference in the release notes.
Edit: I found why the charge locations was not showing -- the little lightening bolt button on the top right corner of the nav display had been reset by the upgrade (or reboot). Turned that on again, et voil�.�
Apr 30, 2015
Kilowatt I've seen some strange things with phone call log not being up to date (iPhone 6). It seems it won't update properly.�
Apr 30, 2015
Lawsteve I just updated the tracker. I went from .153 to .188 this morning.�
Apr 30, 2015
GeekGirls Ours just updated this morning from .153 to .188 as well on a 2012 production vehicle, predating autopilot by a long shot. What is the tracker being referenced here? There was nothing in the OP.�
Apr 30, 2015
dirkhh It's in my signature. Simply go to the tracker website and follow the instructions�
Apr 30, 2015
mibaro2 Just got prompted for my 2nd update for 6.2
I was on .136 before.
I'll see what version this update puts me to.�
Apr 30, 2015
mibaro2 It updated me to .188�
Apr 30, 2015
rickgt At .153 but got update notice today. Will report and update tracker tomorrow�
Apr 30, 2015
Kbra Whats in 6.2.188?
So i was at 6.2.124 and now im at 6.2.188. The release notes look the same from the original 6.2 update. Anyone know what was tweaked or added? Obviously nothing major but curious what refinements were made...�
Apr 30, 2015
breser It comes and goes but rebooting it hasn't exactly helped so far. Sometimes it goes away for a bit and sometimes it stays gone. Starting to wonder if there isn't something wrong with the car.�
Apr 30, 2015
mknox 6.2 (2.4.188) today. Added to the tracker.�
May 1, 2015
Stealth I have a P85 and installed 2.4.188 (was on 2.4.136). I took a test drive after the update and it seems a bit more powerful and the tires seem to squeal a bit more before traction control kicks in. So did this update really give me better acceleration like the P85D got recently? Did it modify the inverter firmware?�
May 1, 2015
spentan I don't know if its just me, but I've definitely noticed a significant difference with my P85D and acceleration between 50-80�
May 1, 2015
xy46 Updated my P85D to .188 yesterday, after receiving software update notice on 4/29. Discovered a minor bug related to emergency flashers that I realize was at present at least since .168. I will post that separately under the thread for 6.2 bugs.
http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/showthread.php/45330-Bugs-in-firmware-6-2/page21
Dirkhh - I have added this most recent update to the tracker, and I realized that I erroneously posted that my last two updates came by Wifi. This is incorrect, they came across 3G. I couldn't see how to correct this, so hoping you can help me here so the data stays as accurate as possible. Thanks again for creating this great tracker!�
May 1, 2015
tomas There's a guy at tesla engineering who's been given the assignment: "confuse the tracker"�
May 1, 2015
Cyclone He is also responsible for keeping us on our toes!�
May 1, 2015
Duckjybe Do the release notes say anything about the P85 acceleration improving?�
May 1, 2015
Kalud No and I tested with the Tesla API, I have the exact same power output from 6.1, 6.2 built 153 and this new 188 build.
Most of the time I get a limit of 338kW (353hp) and sometimes (when the battery is hot perhaps) I get 345kW (462hp)
- - - Updated - - -
...but maybe it gets the power ramp up faster, I need to compare logs of same kind of acceleration, like from dead stop.
Here's a screenshot from dead stop to 60mph on 6.2 build .188
�
May 1, 2015
apacheguy I hit 313 kW peak in my S85 with a refurb DU last weekend. SOC 97%. The P has a much faster ramp up to peak, but not a much higher peak delivery compared to an S, something I've never understood.�
May 1, 2015
Kalud I fully agree, I have a log of a S85 hiting 338kW (in fact, sustained). I'll compare the ramp up but yeah I don't understand why there is so little difference from a S85 and a P85 in terms of peak power.
- - - Updated - - -
Here's the log for a S85 at 90% SOC.
�
May 1, 2015
lucadelbo Yesterday I updated to 6.2 188 and I lost the normal-sport acceleration slide in my 85D. Any other owner with the same problem?�
May 1, 2015
shadowinstallz Not a problem....read the update notes�
May 1, 2015
santana338 2.4.188 fixes the audio mute on entry bug�
May 1, 2015
HankLloydRight If you go and enter another firmware update with the same build and install date, it will replace the existing one.
But these days, there isn't a measureable difference between people getting updates between 3G and Wifi like there used to be.�
May 1, 2015
apacheguy Very interesting noting the disparity between my measurement of 313 kW at 97% and warm temps (~70 F). One theory I have is Tesla upgraded the DU inverter and it now has slightly higher efficiency at peak power draw. That would explain why you only see 345 kW compared to 363 kW measured in brianman's Sig and it would also explain why I see 313 instead of 338 kW.
Still confused as to why an S85 has much slower ramp up to peak compared to a P85. TC should be the only limiting factor in ramp up to peak power draw.�
May 2, 2015
thebishop Definitely seems there is a geographic aspect in play also for the update cadence - got my first update today and went from .124 to .188 - had the car on well working wifi for a few weeks, so wifi vs 3G does not seem to be that important (I got .188 over 3G when parked at the airport for a few days...). Updated the tracker.�
May 2, 2015
Peter_M Just installed .188 and either that update or .160 seems to have fixed the bug in "submarine mode" where if you entered the 007 code while the Suspension controls page was open, it would display a submarine with a wheel on it (or a car with no wheel when you turned it off). Glad to see software developers at Tesla are fixing the critical bugs :wink:. Now they need to get someone to drop that leading zero on the clock!�
May 2, 2015
jerry33 That's a feature, not a bug�
May 2, 2015
Kilowatt With .188 update I have had my dash unexpectedly reboot on entry several times?�
May 2, 2015
gg_got_a_tesla Finally moved from .153 to .188 today. Suspected that the download may have been suspended just as it was in the past with a 6.1 version - Tesla service had recommended rebooting the touchscreen at that time to resume the download. After waiting patiently for a few days despite all the reports of .188, decided to reboot the screen and voila, while the car was parked near my workplace gym, the .188 download succeeded.�
May 2, 2015
SUN-day Driver Oh, I thought THIS was the thread where people would be talking about 6.2 bugs, so I have been reading it before deciding whether to apply the update I have now or wait until they fix the bugs they introduced in it and push out a new one. Great. Off to read that thread now.�
May 2, 2015
rickgt Went from .153 to .188
so far don't notice much difference.
Updated the tracker�
May 3, 2015
MarcG Check your energy savings setting. It's most likely ON.�
May 4, 2015
R�B Does anybody know or have heard that Tesla is planning any performance improvements to the P85 models anytime soon? All performance updates have gone to either the P85D or the non-performance models....�
May 4, 2015
AmpedRealtor Hi from Buckeye!
I also have a P85 and would like some love, but the performance improvements so far have only been to the dual motor fleet. Elon did say that the P85D performance improvement would benefit the P85 "to a lesser extent" because we only have one motor/inverter versus the two in the AWD models. Whatever improvement the P85D received in terms of its rear motor performance should also have translated to the P85, but the lack of a front motor/inverter in our cars will limit the amount of improvement.
I've accepted that Tesla can tweak the AWD models and squeeze out more performance because of the dual motor design, and that there is very little they can do to improve performance of our singe-motor cars. I'd love to be wrong, and hope there are surprises in the works. But I plan for the worst and hope for the best.�
May 5, 2015
stace Isn't that *this* thread? Am I missing something.�
May 5, 2015
mibaro2 Funny you should mention that. I got into my Nissan ICE rental yesterday, and they had a leading 0 on the clock when in am/pm mode. I had never seen that before in any of the ICE cars I owned. Is the leading 0 on the clock becoming the new norm?�
May 5, 2015
napabill What? You in some kind of hurry?:wink:�
May 5, 2015
anxman On the .188 firmware, I'm seeing improved performance of the Active Blind Spot detection. Model S correctly identified vehicles entering and exiting my blindspot up to 75mph. Prior to this update, at 75mph, I would see many failures of the system.�
May 5, 2015
spentan I have also noticed the Blind Spot Monitoring System being much more accurate since the update.
Does anyone have any idea when we can expect 6.3? or 7.0?�
May 5, 2015
gg_got_a_tesla Nope.
Wonder if Tesla engineers are doing it right in terms of source code management given that the X is just a few months away. I hope that they are going to work with a single code line for both the S and the X (with whatever feature's appropriate for each vehicle). The release of 7.0 may coincide with that of the X.�
May 5, 2015
dirkhh Pardon the interruption for a programming announcement...
Part of the reason for doing the tracker (besides getting amazing statistical data) was to reduce the noise here with "got it / haven't gotten it / why didn't I get it" posts.
So in order to work towards that I will continue to reward people who post to the tracker with reputation points (sorry, on the days where a TON of people get a release I run out of the ability to give reputation way too quickly so not everyone gets it - I know, life's unfair) but I will only give reputation to people who post to the tracker and do NOT post here that they got the version and posted to the tracker.
i.e. I really want people to post to the tracker and avoid posting here with simple "I got it" posts. Of course, if you are the first one with a new release (easy to tell from the tracker) or if you find a new bug or can confirm that a bug is fixed, etc, by all means post. But please don't post "I got it" posts.
Thanks and sorry for the interruption.�
May 5, 2015
anxman I tested this again today on 280N from Palo Alto to San Francisco and the active blindspot accurately detected cars for the journey. I'm looking forward to the improved UIs in 7.0.�
May 6, 2015
dirkhh Interesting Slacker bug today on .188: suddenly it went song hopping. Shows next song, doesn't start playing. After 10 seconds or so, hops to the next song, same thing. Kept doing that. Strong 3g signal. Switched to fm and back, didn't help. Finally rebooted center screen. After that Slacker was back to normal�
May 6, 2015
Fezzik Yeah SLacker has been weird. Skips a song half way through, or makes that old CD skipping type of issue. I even had one where it was doing a fast foward of the song but playing it. Weird.�
May 6, 2015
hiroshiy Have any of you seen this before? Today I was driving the highway in Japan and this message came up.
Imgur
# tapatalk crashes if I try to attach a photo.
There seems to be no Superchargers but many CHAdeMO chargers around, like every 10 miles.�
May 6, 2015
pgiralt I've had this happen to me a few times over the years in a variety of releases. When I've seen it, the slider actually looks like the song is playing really fast and then when it gets to the end, it switches to the next song. Switching from Slacker to some other source and back fixes it as well.�
May 6, 2015
MarcG That would mimic what Apple does when they release new hardware. I doubt Tesla is mature enough yet to pull it out, but I guess we'll see when we get to it. I, for one, can't wait for 7.0 with full auto-pilot features!�
May 6, 2015
Andyw2100 I believe Tesla has corrected the odometer issue in version .188. Details here: Do P85Ds and S85Ds have inaccurate odometers that overstate distance traveled? - Page 7
Edit: I started a new thread on this here P85D and S85D odometer inaccuracy corrected in firmware version 6.2.2.4.188 so others may add their data that I hope will confirm my assertion that the issue has been resolved.�
May 6, 2015
dirkhh No, that's not what I observed. Both the "amount cached" and the "amount played" bar didn't move. Very much like what happens if you have no 3G signal. But I had strong signal. And as I mentioned I switched to other sources and back and that didn't fix it. A reboot of the center screen did.�
May 6, 2015
TexasEV I've had to reboot occasionally for Slacker issues with every version of the software over the past two years. I doubt it's a bug just introduced in this last build.�
May 6, 2015
pgiralt Sorry - didn't notice the comment about switching to FM and back. Does sound like a different issue.�
May 6, 2015
anxman I noticed today on my drive down 101 that the Active Blind Spot works great for straight line driving up to 75mph now. It doesn't work correctly on curves and I'd also like to see the size of the detection to include anything on the side of the vehicle, and not just in the blidnspot.�
May 7, 2015
Andyw2100 Based on just a few trips, I'm pretty certain that I can agree that efficiency is improved in .188. On a couple of set routes that I record regularly I've seen significantly better numbers since receiving .188.
The only reason I'm stopping short of saying I'm 100% certain is that there are a couple of other variables, and I'd like to record a few more trips before I say that I am 100% certain. The vast majority of the trips I recorded were with snow tires on, and in colder weather. It's only recently that the weather has warmed up, and only very recently that I switched to all-season tires from snow tires. Even so, I'm still fairly certain .188 has improved my P85D's efficiency.�
May 7, 2015
dirkhh For me .188 is also much better than .153... But the weather had gotten warmer here in Portland and that could be making any firmware specific change.
But from before .188 to after with very consistent driving on the same routes Wh/mile has dropped by 20-30 (so 6-9%)�
May 7, 2015
xy46 Seeing improved performance with .188 as well. Just finished roundtrip to Chicago and back in the last couple of days and was seeing energy use hovering around 300 or even lower - even with part of my travel during a rainstorm. It has been much warmer here, but even so I think this is significantly better than I would have expected to see from weather changes alone.�
May 7, 2015
tomas Warming weather makes a HUGE difference. Fact that .188 got pushed exactly when midwest weather turned is I think causing false positives among MS owners going into their first spring.�
May 7, 2015
wk057 So...... whats next? 7.0?�
May 7, 2015
Andyw2100 There is a chance you are correct, and I did make reference to that possibility in my post upthread.
On the other hand, dirkhh is not a new Model S owner, and he seems to agree.
And some of the trips I've been charting have been at similar temperatures (I record temperature) but the efficiency is significantly better. The variable I'm not certain about is the wind. I try to record that too, but it's less accurate than the temperature. That's one of the reasons I said I wanted to collect some more data before stating I was certain.
Another reason I'm pretty confident that the increase in efficiency is real is that I plug all my trips into EV Trip Planner, and compare my efficiency to what EV Trip Planner would predict. The recent trips with .188 have been significantly better. EV Trip Planner takes temperature into account.
Below is today's trip, and the comparison to EV Trip Planner. Before .188 it was rare for any of my numbers to be better than the numbers EV Trip Planner predicted, unless I had a strong tailwind. As you can see, today's numbers were all significantly better.
EV Trip Planner
Estimates:
Date Distance RM Total Energy Avg Energy Hwy Speed Cabin Temp Outdoor Temp Wind Elev Change Conditions Payload Distance RM Total Energy Avg Energy Spd Factor 5/7/15 58.3 51 15.3 263 65-70 62 81 2TW (630) Clear 425 57.7 53 15.9 275 1 
�
May 7, 2015
harry Actually, no -- .197 It was pushed to one of our S's tonight�
May 7, 2015
Andyw2100 Also, while we're talking about the possibility of an efficiency improvement in .188, let's not overlook the fact that I'm fairly certain .188 has also corrected the odometers' over-statement of mileage in P85Ds and S85Ds that had been taking place. See this thread: P85D and S85D odometer inaccuracy corrected in firmware version 6.2.2.4.188. (It would be great if others could confirm this.)
It was generally accepted that the over-estimation was by about .8%. So an efficiency metric based on mileage, like Wh/mi is even "more better" to the tune of .8% more better.
What I mean is if your Wh/mi now is exactly what it was before, it is actually about .8% better, since the car is now recording longer, but more accurate miles. So if you're seeing what appears to be a 10% increase in Wh/mi, it's really more like an 11% increase in Wh/mi.�
Không có nhận xét nào:
Đăng nhận xét