Jul 5, 2012
Ocelot I have been actively following the model s discussions, even though I am an X reservation holder. There are definitely some things I would really like to see at this price point, (which I am unsure the S has).... and it seems Tesla employees sometimes frequent this site, so thought it might be a good idea to start a list.
1. roof rack-discussed extensively already, needs ability to hold kayak
2. sunroof
3. memory seated position for at least two drivers.
4. ventilated/cooled seats.
5. heated seats.
6. heated steering wheel.
7. heated side view mirrors/windshield
8. automatic trunk closure
9. blind spot indicator
10. driver seat automatically goes back when turn car off, making ingress and egress easier
11. trunk partition- the old CRV ie not this years model had a midway partition that was solid-ie. can put heavy things on it. this made packing super easy, and usually would throw stuff underneath and put stroller on top.. http://www.suvche.com/UploadFile/product/201032514421972797.jpg
12.....
feel free to add to list/comment. i feel these are all reasonable conidering you can get them on most cars for way under the pricepoint of the tesla.�
Jul 5, 2012
AnOutsider 1) has been confirmed (no details on how it will function or what it will hold)
2) it has, though not sure how wide or if it opens (there's windows on the falcon doors)
3) S has this, can't see why the X wouldn't
4) Can't see why they wouldn't be able to get this in S 2.0 and X 1.0
5) S has this
6) same as #4
7) same as #4
8) S has this, I'd imagine a crossover would definitely have it since there's so much focus on storage and cargo room
9) Fairly certain it's coming to S, so #4
10) do we know if this happens or not currently on the S?
11) Never seen that before, but that's a pretty cool idea�
Jul 5, 2012
100thMonkey I'd like to see a normal door option in place of the falcon doors. we need to be able to put all kinds of stuff on the roof from time to time. skis, kayaks, storage box etc. As long as falcon doors are the only option, the X won't be on our list, sadly.�
Jul 5, 2012
mikevbf AnOutsider,
I know it's been confirmed that there would be a "cool" roof rack solution for things like skis. Have you seen somewhere the rack would actually carry bigger objects like kayaks? That would be pretty amazing given the footprint of the door up top.�
Jul 5, 2012
mikevbf Some alternatives to putting stuff on the roof have been suggested on this thread: Model X Roof Rack|Trailer|Toys
Of particular interest is a lightweight multi-use trailer which would have better aerodynamics than having stuff on the roof. Being a kayaker, I admit though I prefer having them on the roof. Though if I talk about it any more on this thread I will get in trouble with the big bad moderator :scared:�
Jul 5, 2012
WhiteKnight I would like to see a mini-refrigerator as an option.
Also would like the performance version to be more aggressively masculine!�
Jul 5, 2012
bonnie Whose afraid of the big bad moderator? YOU afraid of the big bad moderator!
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Jul 5, 2012
mikevbf Maybe some photos of guys skinning and cleaning a deer in the back?�
Jul 5, 2012
bonnie Or just guys cleaning!�
Jul 5, 2012
Lloyd
That's a very false stereotype. I know lots of women that love to hunt. I'll stick up for them!!�
Jul 5, 2012
bonnie Options I'd like to see ...
- Easy to install dog barrier (don't like how some off-the-shelf ones dig into the headliner and sides, causing damage)
- +1 on the small fridge installation
- tow hitch/wiring standard
- falcon doors that hinge both at the top and on the side (allowing a roof rack with the latter)
- ventilation/controls in the back
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Jul 5, 2012
AnOutsider Meaning a way to set the individual fan speeds/temp back there, or just vents in all the rows in general?�
Jul 5, 2012
bonnie Both. Good ventilation with separate controls (also controllable from the screen).�
Jul 5, 2012
bonnie Actually, it's not 'cleaning a deer', it's 'dressing a deer'. And women are particularly good with the 'dressing' skills.
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Jul 5, 2012
mikevbf busted I'm not a hunter, just done some fishing.
I like most of the suggestions already made. I have one slightly radical suggestion. You know how people say, "it even makes you coffee"? Why not have the lower part of the "opportunity space" have a removable coffee capsule brewer. You fill it with water and press the coffee button on the screen. It brews straight into the fitted, no spill insulated mug in the cup holder. Then you really would not have to stop at the gas station. The key to a successful design would be no mess and easily cleanable. And the only better smell than fresh brewed coffee is a hot bag of freshly roasted beans in the car. If you have a local roaster, try it. Can you tell? I'm a coffee addict. We need something other than the falcon wing doors to distract the media from all the truly amazing features and abilities of the Model X.�
Jul 5, 2012
Lloyd Jura!�
Jul 5, 2012
Saxena 12. Should also have memory mirror positions for 2 drivers, if model x ends up with mirrors instead of side cameras. Not sure if this feature would be needed for the camera mirrors.�
Jul 5, 2012
100thMonkey a trailer is a no go around here for me. It essentially doubles the fee to get on a Ferry and it detracts from the driving experience. When I brought it up with my wife, she simply stated, "the X has those funky doors that make it impossible to put anything on top, that won't work for us, period!" Cool innovations have to be practical or be options.
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Jul 5, 2012
Ocelot anoutsider, thanks for taking time to address each point, I learned some things.
Agree with trailer not really an option, have zero room to store a trailer.
Fridges? Coffeemakes? Either you are touring with the grateful dead, or not allowed in the house!:tongue::biggrin:
(if it's the former, I am in!)�
Jul 5, 2012
Norbert Isn't the Model X roof too curved for having big stuff on top? Maybe Model Y, 30 % longer, straight roof, more like a camping bus, with space for optional mini kitchen?�
Jul 6, 2012
Local host Here is my list. I had actually thought of creating this very thread for the exact same reason. Hopefully TM is reading and taking note.
1. 85 kWh and 100 kwh battery options - This would at least allow us to match range with the S and avoid the 10 % penalty because of weight. Hopefully battery costs will have decreased enough so that TM can keep costs the same as the 60 kwh and 85 kwh of the S.
2. Storage - Driver and Passenger Opening Door Pockets, Centre Console Box Storage with Armrest, Front Seat Back Pockets, Move cup holders to the front of the cabin, Rear cup holders, Overhead sunglass storage, flip down rear center arm rest with storage and cup holders.
3. Removable second row seating - any one seat or all of them.
4. Aux power front and rear
5. Rear seat entertainment
6. Auto dimming high beam headlights
7. Tire pressure monitor
8. Rain and light sensor
9. Adaptive cruise control
10. Electrally foldable auto-dimming heated side mirrors
11. Headlight washers
12. Winshield wiper deicer
13. Heated and cooled front and rear seats
14. All wheel Drive
15. Heated stearing wheel
16. Heads Up Display
17. Panaroma Sunroof
18. Ultrasonic Parking system
19. Air suspension
20. Towing package
21. Bluetooth
22. Auto up / down for all windows
+1 on the more agressive, more edgey design. When I look at the nose of the model S, I wish the X had similar design ideas. Some pictures I see look great, others are a bit disappointing. It all depends on what angle the car is caught.
I also don't mind the idea of a small beverage cooler, although I doubt it would make it into design.
http://editorial.autos.msn.com/10-outrageous-options-on-luxury-cars#5
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Jul 6, 2012
WhiteKnight I was thinking more like pylons on the side to mount the car-to-car missiles!!�
Jul 6, 2012
Teslawisher Don't discount the X just yet because of the roof-rack thing. Let's see what they come up with. They've stated they have a very interesting solution being worked on for this. Maybe when they announce it, it still won't work for your needs. But, until then... don't write the X off just yet!�
Jul 6, 2012
mikevbf Nope just a serious coffee addict. Here is a joke:
How do you know when a dead head has stayed at your house?�
Jul 6, 2012
bonnie They're still there.�
Jul 6, 2012
mikevbf You got it Bonnie. And having gone to west coast college, I confirm the truth of this joke.�
Jul 6, 2012
bonnie I got a few rides on the Dead's jet - the pilot, Steve Kahn, was a friend* of mine. (And was piloting the helicopter that fateful night.)
I have stories. But those would be off-topic, so I won't post
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Options. Let's see. I would like a middle seat (both rows 2 & 3) center flip down -- handy for skis, yet you can still load plenty of passengers. Not everything has to go on a rack or trailer.
*To clarify: He was a friend, not a 'friend'. Hahah. I was the lead engineer for an aviation product in the 80s that put all the Jepp charts on a cdrom, along with a object-oriented database that allowed flight planning. It all fit into a box no bigger than the Jepp case pilots carry (so we knew it would fit in the cockpit). But yeah, great Dead stories.�
Jul 6, 2012
mikevbf I would love to hear more of those stories one day.
As for those skis down the center, make a little hole a ski bag can poke through in the middle bottom of the middle seats. This space should be able to close to. I think this was an option on the Jetta a long time ago. I hoped they would do it on the Model S. I will try and find a photo unless someone can beat me to it ...�
Jul 6, 2012
bonnie I also had that option on a BMW I owned - used it frequently.�
Jul 6, 2012
Ocelot I also would love to her some of your stories! maybe in another thread...or if you ever are up here in Canada....
sorry for the loss of your friend.
peace and my favourite dead joke...
o, John Denver passes away and goes to heaven. He meets Saint Peter at the pearly gates, who greets him warmly and says, "Welcome to Heaven, John! You have lived a good, honest life, and we have a nice place all set up for you. If you will just follow me, I'll lead you there now." So John Denver follows Saint Peter on a path that winds gently through the woods, until they come out to a clearing. There, along the banks of a deep-blue lake, nestled into a valley surrounded by dazzling, rocky, snow-capped mountains, is a beautiful log cabin, smoke gently floating out of the chimney. Sitting on the wrap around porch is a beautiful guitar and a large dog who barks joyfully at their approach. John Denver exclaims, "Zeke! My old dog Zeke! I can't believe it!" Overjoyed, he pauses for a moment to take everything in...
While he is hugging his dog and breathing in the fresh mountain air, he spies an enormous castle on a neighboring mountain. There are flags waving from atop the castle, emblazoned with dancing bears, skulls and roses. The hedges outside are trimmed into lightning bolt and musical note shapes. Bubbles and glitter are pouring out of the windows, and the unmistakable sound of the Grateful Dead's music is blasting from inside.
John looks at the castle, then looks back at his log cabin, which suddenly seems a bit less grandiose than it did a minute ago. So he says to Saint Peter, "Um, sir? I don't want to seem ungrateful here, but I am curious... Why is it that I get this modest log cabin, when Jerry Garcia gets this huge castle?"
Saint Peter chuckles and says, "Oh John... that's not Jerry Garcia's castle. It's God's!"�
Jul 7, 2012
Doug_G Since we're thoroughly off topic here, I just thought I'd mention a curious anecdote. When I got my Roadster test drive, the next guy to go out after me was a member of the Grateful Dead. He had a whole entourage in tow. No idea if he bought one.�
Jul 8, 2012
Kevin Harney Back on topic....
I would really like to see TM take the opportunity with the Model X to really try and start moving forward in the Luxury/premium department.
So I would like to see them integrate more of the bells and whistles missing in the Model S
Blind Spot warning
Lane Change Warning
Drowsy Warning
Adaptive Cruise Control
Crash detection and braking system (Both front and rear) - rear would be nice for the X since it will have limited visibility back there and be a kid/people hauler
etc etc....
I would like these things in my Gen3 and I really want them to get started moving in that direction. BRING ON THE TECH !!!! TM, I know you can do it�
Jul 8, 2012
mikevbf I have mentioned this before in another thread on Model X, but I would like good clearance without resorting to raising the car with air suspension. Something in the neighborhood 8.7" like the current Subaru Outback would do. I think that is what Bonnie got someone to measure the beta Model X at.�
Jul 8, 2012
bonnie I did! I brought my tape measure to Santana Row and had one of the guys under the X, measuring it. And if I remember correctly, is was just under 9".
But please remember that X is a prototype, things change - so speak up about what you want for clearance.�
Jul 15, 2012
bonnie Brought up on the Model S subforum - they're looking for a camera to view the kids back in the jump seat. A great idea.
And an even greater idea to have that option available for the Model X. I'd like to be able to see the third row/back of cargo area from the driver's seat.�
Jul 15, 2012
mikevbf One thing I hope with the Model X is they do not treat AWD like Performance on the Model S. In other words let us get the AWD without being obligated to get a larger battery, air suspension, specialty wheels etc. If Tesla feels they have to package the AWD with something, make it something like a cold weather package ie heated seats and mirrors.�
Jul 15, 2012
brianman Agreed�
Jul 15, 2012
AnOutsider If AWD requires more battery power, they might force a larger battery option.�
Jul 16, 2012
rcf8000 I know this is heresy, but I'd like to see a 10KW gasoline engine powered generator installed in the frunk. This would make road trips much more feasible for me. And without adaptive cruise control I won't be taking any road trips with my X.�
Jul 16, 2012
bonnie I don't want the extra weight and a whole 'nother system to take care of. That would be a deal-breaker for me.�
Jul 16, 2012
AnOutsider And, Tesla wouldn't do it.�
Jul 16, 2012
rcf8000 Tesla might not do it, but I'll bet some enterprising owner will do it.�
Jul 16, 2012
bonnie I guess after having driven an electric vehicle for 1 1/2 years and having taken long road trips, the idea of a generator just strikes me as extra work. And a range killer.
But all that said, you should configure exactly what you want. Just saying I see no need for it, based on real life experience. (And the supercharger network totally puts that to rest, for me.) I've only kept an ICE because my three dogs won't fit in the Roadster. But I'm selling that as soon as the X is on the way.�
Jul 16, 2012
rcf8000 I'm proposing a generator as an OPTION. Obviously, a lot of buyers wouldn't want it. A couple of other points: As far as added weight is concerned, I figure that the generator would weigh about 250 lb. Considering that the X will probably weigh over 5000 lb., what's another 250. As far as the supercharging network is concerned, Tesla says that using it on a routine basis is not recommended because of degradation of the batteries. And I imagine that the network will mostly serve interstate highways. But there are a lot of travel routes in the western U.S. that don't involve interstate highways.�
Jul 16, 2012
bonnie Curious, how much do you currently drive/year?�
Jul 16, 2012
rcf8000 About 6000 miles per year in my SUV, which I don't use for road trips, and about 8000 miles per year in my LS430, which I use for road trips.�
Jul 16, 2012
dsm363 That would bring in all other kinds of regulations, maintenance issues and cost to an already expensive car. If they were going to include a gas engine, they'd be better off downsizing the battery pack to give it maybe 80 mile range (double the Volt) and have the gas generator. Tesla will never do this. Doesn't make sense to design an option for the car that will rarely be used and drive up cost and maintenance issues significantly. If you could find a generator that is portable and could output greater than 40A (what you'd find at an RV park) then you could try that.�
Jul 16, 2012
rcf8000 Portable generators that put out 40A at 240v are not uncommon.�
Jul 16, 2012
mikevbf What a sweet combo a Roadster and a Model X. Makes me dreamy just thinking about it.�
Jul 16, 2012
mikevbf That would make sense if it were true, but if memory serves right, the extra regen from all 4 wheels might more than make up for it. This came up early in conversations about the Model X.�
Jul 16, 2012
AnOutsider Regen? I meant if driving all 4 wheels needed more power than can be pulled at once from a 60kwh pack (similar to how the perf needs the 85kwh pack)�
Jul 16, 2012
mikevbf The first post in this thread mentions it:
Model X Pricing
There is more extensive discussions on it somewhere. Given how far we are from production, I probably should have stated it a little less like fact and inserted a strategic "might"�
Jul 17, 2012
VolkerP Gensets with enough continuous power output to move a vehicle are not portable. Try googling some 15kVA gen sets and go see yourself.
Typical appearance:
This one features size 1300x700x1100mm (~4.3x2.3x3.6ft), weight 560kg (~1200lbs). And that is without sound insulation.
This ICE range extender idea for a performance BEV like TESLA goes nowhere, IMO.�
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Jul 17, 2012
rcf8000 The Generac XG10000 weighs 300 lb, available at Home Depot for $2099.�
Jul 17, 2012
bonnie Did you look at the output of that?�
Jul 17, 2012
dsm363 I really think that if carrying around a powerful generator for that once a year you really need it isn't worth it. You might be better off buying a traditional ICE if having an engine on board is a major concern. Tesla will never do it so it'd be up to you. With campgrounds everywhere why would you need it? Do you drive more than 200 miles a day where running out would be a concern?�
Jul 17, 2012
rcf8000 Perhaps I'm not familiar with the facilities at campgrounds. So I drive up to a campground and plug in for a 10 hour overnight charge. Am I supposed to sleep in my car?�
Jul 17, 2012
bonnie Well, I suppose you could sleep in your car. But many places have cabins for rent and are within walking distance of other hotels, restaurants, theaters. Worst case, you take a cab.
Or you could just pick a hotel for the night that will allow you to plug in. That's what I do. Then I have a fully charged car in the morning, ready to go.
But right now you're arguing for a generator that will charge you more slowly than a 40amp outlet at the campground AND will reduce your range.�
Jul 17, 2012
rcf8000 No, I'm arguing for a generator that will provide 40A.�
Jul 17, 2012
bonnie So setting aside how much range you could add before running out of gas & how long it would take you & how much range you lose with the extra weight ... You're prob going to have to do that after-market if you still plan on getting a Model S. Tesla is not going to provide one (they'd lose far too many customers and all credibility).
Is this car really the right car for you? It feels like you're trying to solve a problem that may not really be a problem.�
Jul 17, 2012
rcf8000 I'm getting a Model X, not a Model S. The Model X is exactly right for me to replace my Mercedes GL450, which I use only for local trips and occasional day trips. I think I'll like the Model X so much that I will also want to take it on long road trips, which I don't think it's well suited for. However, I am open to be persuaded otherwise. I am very excited about the Model X, and the Model S for that matter, but that doesn't mean that I am willing to totally overlook their limitations.�
Jul 17, 2012
bonnie Oops, X, not S. Sorry. Just saying that YOU will have to be the one to persuade you otherwise. And that will likely happen after driving for awhile. All the talking in the world isn't going to make a difference, you just need to see the reality.
And then you'll be on the forum, reassuring the next person.�
Jul 17, 2012
dsm363 I see your new post about the intended use. Do you have a 150+ mile round trip daily commute? For a campground you simply call ahead and ask if you can charge and how much it will be. If you are driving 400 miles that day and you make it 250 miles to the campground you'd stay there for about 5 hours to recharge at 40A then keep going. You would just need a place to charge at your destination.
The Model X will easily handle your around town and local trips. It's really all about planning ahead when you travel outside your round trip range of the battery pack.. I agree you'll find it's much less of a problem than you think. If you had a gas generator would you pull off to the side of the road or stop at a restaurant to recharge? You'll find more and more public 30A chargers and campgrounds than you think. Plus by the time you get your Model X in 2014 the Suoercharger network should have been started as well.
Maybe these posts should be moved to a new thread In the Charging and chargers section 'Is a gas generator needed for my EV?'�
Jul 17, 2012
WhiteKnight It sounds like what you're arguing for is an Extended Range Electric Vehicle (EREV) like the Chevy Volt where you have a battery and you lug around an engine to serve as a generator when you want to go further than the battery permits without recharging.
Here is the SUV you want:
VTRUX Suburban
VIA-VTRUX-SUV-Flyer-04.pdf
Bob Lutz certified!
Or you could just mount a generator on a trailer and tow it behind the car.
There is 0.0% chance that Tesla will offer a generator option to customers. They have already ruled it out.�
Jul 17, 2012
rcf8000 The VTRUX Suburban is definitely not what I want!�
Aug 28, 2012
RDoc My desired options:
- The main option I'd like is a 100 KWh battery. My guess is it would be about a $7500 option over the 85 KWh.
- Luxury rear seating option for adults. We often do trips with another couple in back. Separate seats with arms, not a bench. Seating for 4+2 is fine.
- A non-falcon wing door option. They look cool, but don't seem all that practical or reliable, particularly with New England late winter icing. Split middle seats would be more comfortable and allow reasonable access to the rear seats.
- Dual plugs for the dual chargers so the car could be plugged into 2 240V charge cables simultaneously when alone at a charging station.
- Ditto the cargo separator panels or something similar. There's so much room in the back I'm concerned about stuff sliding around. The good handling will exacerbate the problem too.
- Contrary to other views, I'd like a low suspension, around 6" the same as the S. I'm not going off road and the streets are reasonably plowed. Actually, a "low rider" option would be very cool. Use LED lights underneath for economy of course, and maybe the air suspension could hop the X?
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Aug 28, 2012
ModelX I would love 500 miles of range, nice rear seats with seat warmers and I do need the extra road clearance of an SUV. I am excited about the falcon wings!�
Sep 2, 2012
RDoc On lower ground clearance: How about an automatic setting on the air suspension of the X such that it lowers the car when stopped. Aging and handicapped parents and friends (and owners) would find that very appealing and it shouldn't be too hard to do. We had a couple of Citroens in the past that had that feature and it was great. Incidentally, the Citroen jacking system was to just raise the suspension all the way up, stick a light but very sturdy jackstand in next to one wheel, then lower the suspension all the way, thereby lifting the suspended wheel.
There's a whole question with the X of how is it going to be used. So far the notion is that it's mainly a family car to replace a minivan, but I don't think I'm alone in wanting a car optimized for medium distance adult travel and local cargo use. The upright seating has the potential for making it a very comfortable cruising vehicle for two couples, better than the S for example. The vehicles intended use changes what options an owner would like quite a bit.�
Sep 2, 2012
jerry33 And there's nothing quite as cool as when the suspension lifts up after starting and the Citroen goes into hover mode.
One of the very best features of the Citroen.�
Oct 10, 2012
Matthew049 YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!�
Oct 11, 2012
Matthew049 1. Aluminum package interior for the performance version
2. different performance wheels than the ones currently on the model S
3. more aggressive/masculine appearance for the performance version�
Oct 11, 2012
Discoducky I'd like TM to use the same parts on the X to keep costs down, but also offer options that make it unique. Still want 5 star in all categories crash safety, but would also like to see more optimizations in the interior to maximize head and foot room. I wonder if TM has considered sinking the battery a bit lower in the skateboard chassis to allow for better foot room since the X will have bigger tires and air suspension, this would optimize interior space as well as be a more aero shape underneath the car. Also, would be nice to see golf ball like dimples to minimize air drag.�
Oct 11, 2012
ElSupreme Dimples work for golf balls and other tumbling objects. Because there is always a feature that will disturb air (at the correct location) to decrease trailing low pressure regions.
But for a fixed orientation object (like a car or automobile) those dimples create more drag, than a simple fixed surface feature designed to disturb the air. So a small ridge, or a panel gap is generally a much better way to disturb air on a car.
There is some advantage to having more skin drag, in some cases, while reducing the boundary layer (Think of raising your Cd but lowering A for a total lower CdA, this isn't exactly how it works but is a really good description of functionally how it works). But again strategically placed fixed features can achieve this effect also.�
Oct 11, 2012
Doug_G Actually, Mythbusters proved a dimpled car does work:
Mythbusters: Dimpled Car MiniMyth : Video : Discovery Channel�
Oct 11, 2012
ElSupreme I actually knew about that test, and well tried to qualify my statement a little. I said dimples were worse than 'simple fixed surface feature designed to disturb the air'. I would much prefer a simple trip edge than a dimpled car. I don't really wash my car, and don't mind the dirt so much but with dimples?!?
And dimples are for people too lazy to actually look at the real aerodynamics of a body (or can't because the object is always changing orientation).�
Oct 11, 2012
jerry33 Or they live in Texas and it rained overnight. Dimple installation is free in that case.�
Oct 16, 2012
Matthew049 
ok, the X6 is a very similar style of car and i absolutely love the looks. ive never owned a bmw and have no plans on buying one but i sure would like to see Tesla make the Model X a little more ballsy like the X6 is!!!!!!!!!!!
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the aluminum trim interior option for the X6. come on Tesla!!! offer it!!! Carbon fiber is kinda.... blah! it's not like carbon fiber is super attractive or anything, unfortunately it's the best option they offer�
Oct 17, 2012
rugbymonk I made the following suggestions at the Grand Opening of a new store in NJ this past weekend:
1. Tow hitch of course
2. Biometrics vs. key (think Bloomberg keyboard fingerprint logon) to unlock and start, with key necessary for valet only
3. Charge adapter for same connection to Roadster or vice-versa
4. Option for charge-port on either side (since my wife and I will share an HPC (true love!)�
Oct 17, 2012
AnOutsider I agree with all your ideas. On #3 though, by the time the X rolls around, I would imagine there would be more cars out using the Model S-style adapter than Roadster, so perhaps an adapter for the roadster would be the best solution to get it caught up so to speak.�
Oct 17, 2012
tdelta1000 ditto�
Oct 22, 2012
Wenche Space for carrying 10 pair of skis! Along the middle of the floor, or under the floor, please�
Oct 22, 2012
nustada 1. Missile launchers
2. A complimentary license to kill.
3. A random James Bond theme song preprogrammed to play when you start driving.�
Oct 31, 2012
brianman A regular appointment with Q for Thursday during lunch.�
Nov 1, 2012
sublimaze1 Did anyone say 3 1/2" lift kit?�
Nov 13, 2012
Ocelot not sure if it has been mentioned, but more screens for the backseats ( road trip with the kids anyone?) would be a big plus. also maybe a power folding third row.�
Dec 5, 2012
Al Sherman The day I reserved my Model S I showed my wife the Model X rollout video. She watched patiently (even though I've been torturing her with Tesla conversations for 3 years) and looked up at me and said "I'll take one of those." Soooo, I reserved her a Model X.
The only thing I REALLY need is for the Falcon doors to be adjustable as the S hatch is. I don't think (not sure) they would open in our garage. We have to be able to adjust them so they wont hit anything, AND get in comfortably without contorting our tired old bodies and those of our friends. Did I mention I REALLY (ie: show stopper) need this?�
Dec 5, 2012
Rodolfo Paiz Similar story here. Roadster's been "in the family" for 15 months, and my wife has never driven it. Says she might not give it back if she did, so I haven't pushed the issue. :-D
But when I showed her the Model X rollout video, she just said "OK... you get the sedan, I'll take that one. Perfect."�
Dec 5, 2012
adiggs I'll be looking either for folding or removable rear seats (middle and back row); turn the Model X into a really big 2 person station wagon. The ideal setup will leave me with enough space in back for an air mattress. And in practice, the bulk of all that space will be used for doing random fetching and carrying.
Heck, if the passenger seat can fold flat or otherwise be arranged so that especially long objects can extend up into the passenger seat area, that'd be especially nice.
That leads to some sort of cargo liner as an option as well. After all, fetching and carrying tends to leave grit and dirt behind, and I'd rather that was contained and easy to vaccuum / clean up!
It's all about the options for how to arrange the interior space.�
Dec 5, 2012
fengshui At the launch event, Elon demonstrated and claimed folding middle and back row seats creating a lay-flat cargo area. As a prototype, that may not make the final cut, but it was on their radar. I too would love to be able to get a mattress of some form back there for car-camping.�
Dec 7, 2012
EchoDelta I would be disappointed if they didn't; and would have to invent some sort of insert shenanigan to make it flat f the dogs.
I wish someone w access to a Model X prototype took detailed pictures of the trunk and 3rd seat area in folded and propped positions�
Dec 9, 2012
aronth5 Since the supercharger network is supposed to be capable of 120kW total output what about the possibility of a future Model X-120 charging at 120kW?
Would this require changes to the Supercharging network or is that capability already built in?�
Dec 9, 2012
fengshui The output of the supercharger has no relation to the size of the battery in the car.�
Dec 9, 2012
brianman "No relation" is a bit strong. The capacity of the battery has some relationship to its max charging rate, which then has a relation to the output of the supercharger. No?�
Dec 28, 2012
RDoc If they can do the side view cameras in place of mirrors, how about at least the far side having two cameras, the normal one looking back and another looking forward? The idea is that when parking, the forward looking camera would look down to show the front tire/curb distance and a better perspective of where the front corner of the car was relative to anything in front of the car. This is similar to the side mirror automatically tilting down to show the rear tire/curb relationship. This seems to me like a better option than separate parking sensors.�
Dec 28, 2012
AnOutsider Hey, if it can rotate 180 degrees, you can do that with one cam.�
Dec 28, 2012
RDoc OK, so in parking mode, the car rotates the mirror back and forward as you shift into back and forward. That could work I think.�
Dec 29, 2012
EcoHeliGuy A second camera is cheeper, and also less mechanical, so no long term fatigue.�
Dec 29, 2012
RDoc What might also be good with a parking camera system would be small side lights for night use.�
Feb 9, 2013
MikeL I want to add another vote for second and third row seats that either remove or fold flat & low. If they come out, floor should be flat.
i would probably leave them all at home a lot of the time. Save on weight and have the world's sexiest cargo van�
Apr 10, 2013
Mayhemm Just reserved an X yesterday. Here's my list:
1) Bigger battery option - Model X already weighs more than Model S, so a bit more weight won't hurt. Plus the AWD version has to drive TWO motors. I fear the 85KWh battery of the S won't even get me to the next community if I want to travel.
2) Stow-able/Removable 2nd/3rd row - I will never use more than two rows and would prefer the option for an extra big boot.
3) Parking assistance system (cameras, audio/visual sensors, etc) - Doesn't need to go crazy here, but Model X must have something
Everything else I can take or leave.�
Jun 5, 2013
Steven Loyens Have to agree with MikeL, I would remove the third row and move the second row back a good 30cm. Have more space to offer my parents a nice place to travel as they are getting a bit older and less mobile. Would offer me a huge cargo space in the back and one extra in the front.
Bring it on!!!�
Jun 5, 2013
Johan I agree with this strongly, and I also think is very likely will happen. 120kWh?
Removable 3rd row of seats with a 2nd row that slides back and forth, either as one unit or each seat individually, I have assumed all along will be an option. If not, I think it would actually be a dealbreaker for me (yeah I know it's a strong word but in this case for me approriate).
This will definately come. The EU Model S har optional parking sensors and I'm sure this will be introduced soon on the US Model S and hence the same on Model X.�
Jun 5, 2013
JoNoSaisQuoi I don�t want the third row; if I am forced to take it then Iwill be driving the church ladies around the rest of my life! I love them but�.
I need all of the leg room I can get in the second row, oneson is 6�8� and the small one is 6�6�. Iam not waiting for Gen3 because I double if they will fit into the back of it.
No third row for me please.
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Jun 5, 2013
fengshui If you want a large 2nd row and a big cargo space, why not just get the Model S today? Is it the AWD, or something else that has you waiting for the X?�
Jun 5, 2013
RDoc I definitely want the third row, but only occasionally. What I want a lot is very comfortable 2nd row seating for older family and friends on long trips, to include comfortable heated seats, separate climate control, and lots of leg and head room.
What might be good would be a way to fold up the third row seat bottom the same way theater seats fold, thereby freeing up a few more inches that the second row could slide back into. Most of the time I wouldn't use the third row seats, and when I did it would only be for short trips, but multi-hour/2 day road trips with another couple won't be unusual at all.
It's also essential that the second and third row seats can be removed/folded to give a lot of flat cargo space.�
Jun 5, 2013
felixtb +1....!�
Jun 5, 2013
fengshui We know the X will have this. Elon demonstrated it very plainly at the reveal.�
Jun 16, 2013
Steven Loyens It's the higher seating that's important to me. As both my parents are getting older and can't get down and up again for the lower seating a Model X with the slightly higher seating would be the solution.�
Jul 1, 2013
lloyds Solar panels to help with charging the vehicle or running some of the electronics while the car's in motion? Too far fetched? I hope not.�
Jul 1, 2013
bollar Sure why not as an option. It will basically no difference to the main pack, but would help the 12V, and it does make a statement. I think it looks good on the Fisker.�
Jul 2, 2013
spleen I'd rather not see this. Solar panels on cars are a gimmick, no more and no less. It was meaningless on the Fisker except to establish "green cred" and it's equally meaningless on the Nissan Leaf (too small to generate any significant power to offset usage) As a scientist, I'm sure Elon won't put in something like this that would be just for appearance's sake.�
Jul 2, 2013
fengshui Elon was asked about solar panels on the car at the Shareholder's meeting. He didn't think it was worth the hassle with current technology.�
Jul 2, 2013
Mayhemm How about just a PV-themed sticker to put on the roof, for those so inclined. The charging rate would be about the same...�
Jul 24, 2013
lloyds I do hope they figure out the roof section to accommodate ski / snowboard racks with the Falcon doors. I head to Big Bear every year, so this would be very important to me as I'm sure many are also on this boat.�
Jul 25, 2013
darthvdr I agree. I kayak with my wife, so this would be very important.�
Jul 25, 2013
NigelM Tesla would have to work really hard to ignore the roof-rack question as so many of us have asked. BTW, there's a discussion here: Model-X-Roof-Rack-Hitch-Rack-Trailer-Toys�
Jul 25, 2013
bonnie +1. I don't want gimmicks on my Model X.
(Nor do I want a 'Hello Kitty' interior, in case any design folks are looking for ideas to make the Model X attractive to women. Just sayin'.)�
Jul 25, 2013
NigelM Custom interior for Bonnie:
But with plenty of "techie" stuff also please.�
Jul 25, 2013
FlasherZ A giant vertical ("mohawk") ski rack.�
Jul 25, 2013
felixtb it would be nice if they were able to unify the glass in the roof more so one could get a part of it that was openable above the driver and front row passenger..... though probably difficult.
roof rack is important, but already at the reveal, when I asked, they said they have a really cool solution for this so I guess we will find out in time.�
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