Thứ Bảy, 31 tháng 12, 2016

Will Tesla support CarPlay? part 2

  • Jul 2, 2014
    jomo25
    Another +1
  • Jul 2, 2014
    youlikeadajuice
    Yes please!
  • Jul 2, 2014
    igotzzoom
    Carplay will almost certainly be standard equipment on the Gen-III. There might be integration issues with the older architecture of the Model S. As "future-proof" as they try to make these cars, there may be some compatibility issues. I'm not intimately familiar with the "under the hood" electronics architecture of the Model S. Perhaps someone here with more knowledge could speak to the potential reverse-compatibility of the Model S (or X) with something like Carplay?
  • Jul 2, 2014
    stopcrazypp
    Tesla's system is Linux based. Compatibility with Android's system is a given. However, my search didn't come up with whether Carplay will work with Linux based entertainment systems.

    I know Carplay does work with any Blackberry QNX based system though (which Tesla doesn't use), but I'm not sure if the rumors that QNX is required is true.
  • Jul 2, 2014
    Madartist
    I think the best way to encourage the adoption of CarPlay or Android Auto by Tesla is to email them.
  • Jul 2, 2014
    d47m122
    How do we email them about this? Is there a particular address? I have my Model S on order for Sept delivery and I have to say that the lack of at least Apple Accessory Protocol for at least connection with music on my iPhone is frustrating.
  • Jul 2, 2014
    markb1
    service at teslamotors.com
  • Jul 2, 2014
    Madartist
    Or ownership at teslamotors.com
  • Jul 2, 2014
    ZBB

    Keep in mind that OSX and iOS are also *nix based, BSD Unix to be specific. There shouldn't be anything holding Tesla back from implementing CarPlay on the current Model S center screen hardware...

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    I emailed them back when CarPlay was announced. Probably worth another email mentioning both CarPlay and Android Auto. Yes it's more work to offer both, but it will support most of their customers phone choices...
  • Jul 2, 2014
    markb1
    Nope. That's what I thought, but when I emailed this suggestion there, they told me feature requests like this should really go to service.
  • Jul 3, 2014
    bob_p
    Tesla should first get out the 3rd party SDK and Tesla App Store capabilities - and then implement both the Apple and Google integration. And with the SDK availability, another developer could provide additional options.
  • Jul 3, 2014
    iadbound
    Following along with the suggestions made by others, I sent the following email to Tesla service:

    Dear Tesla Service:

    I recently placed and confirmed an order for a Model S 85, and I am really looking forward to driving the vehicle. Despite the amazing vehicle control system that Tesla has put together, the one area where the current technology lags behind my expectations, and those of other Tesla owners I suspect, is the media system and the integration of smartphone/tablet technology. I suspect that most Tesla owners, including myself, are using iOS or Android products. Today, these products are the hub of our technological and media worlds. They go with us everywhere and provide near seamless functionality in almost any setting, except when driving one of the most technologically advanced vehicles in the world: Tesla Model S.

    I have every confidence that Tesla can and will greatly improve the obvious weaknesses in the current media/phone integration set-up. One possible step in the right direction is the adoption of Apple�s CarPlay technology or a Tesla-developed implementation of the same basic functionality.

    Thanks in advance for your consideration.

    ?
    I'm not sure if more words are useful, but I never feel comfortable with a disembodied +1 communication.
  • Jul 3, 2014
    SteveW25561
    Cross posted from the other thread (android vs CarPlay):

    I've emailed ownership before but just tweeted this as well:
    Twitter / SteveW25561: @elonmusk @TeslaMotors Its ...

    Tweet:
    @elonmusk @TeslaMotors It's a shame Model S is not among the cars that support #CarPlay or #AndroidAuto. Don't squander the touchscreen!

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    If you use twitter retweet or tweet something similar. I'm hoping more public request for this will help.
  • Jul 3, 2014
    DBG
    I'll settle for playlist access on my music devices (iPhone and Droid). :) Occasionally sending addresses to my car for later use via the app when I am at my desk (as I do with my older GMC truck) would be nice too.
  • Jul 4, 2014
    Madartist
    I already emailed ownership about this issue. They indicated that they will pass the suggestions on. Either way, the correct response from anyone at Tesla simply should be to take the suggestions from owners and pass it on to the relevent department for consideration.
  • Jul 6, 2014
    bob_p
    One of the great benefits of the Model S and Tesla's commitment to continue providing software updates - is that we're even able to discuss the possibility of adding the new Apple or Google software onto cars - that have already been purchased and have been on the road, even those that are approaching 2 years old!
  • Oct 3, 2014
    Argelius
  • Oct 4, 2014
    Dylan
    I'm afraid if Tesla does not support CarPlay soon they will fall behind, while they are definitely leading now with their interface. They can't compete with iOS and App Store and their thousands of apps/devs. Cannot understand why Tesla doesn't want to be first when it comes to this.

  • Oct 4, 2014
    pilotSteve
    @Dylan - yes that video makes a pretty strong "want" case for CarPlay. I'm increasingly concerned that Tesla engineering is understaffed and working on big future features (good) but ignoring long awaited "utility" features (bad!) like shuffle play, support CarPlay and other stuff that will help sell cars now and keep owners happy with fundamental upgrades that make good on Tesla's implied promise of our cars "always getting better".
  • Oct 4, 2014
    GaryREM
    Licensing fees an issue? Seriously? I don't know if there even are any.

    If KIA, Hyundai, and Fiat, along with the other 25+ manufacturers can do this, and Pioneer can deliver to several of their receivers via free firmware update, I can't understand why people think this is an issue. With all the complaints about media control and navigation on these forums, CarPlay and the Android car feature could quickly resolve some issues for Tesla.
  • Oct 4, 2014
    ZBB
    Come on Tesla... Bring CarPlay (and Android Auto) to us...
  • Oct 4, 2014
    jomo25
    +1 please
  • Oct 4, 2014
    Boppus
    ...and use Apple's Maps?
  • Oct 4, 2014
    woof
    Sure, why not. Apple Map Gate was way overblown (it was shown all mapping apps have similar issues), and Apple's had two years to improve. Reports are that mobile usage of Apple Maps has surpassed Google Maps (UK Carrier Compares Apple Maps vs. Google Maps Usage Data | iPhone in Canada Blog - Canadas #1 iPhone Resource) so they cannot be as bad as the jokes imply.

    In addition, Tesla cannot use Google maps everywhere (China for example: Tesla Model S goes without Google navigation in China | Digital Trends), so maybe they should use Apple Maps where Google isn't available.
  • Oct 4, 2014
    markb1
    Frankly, since Apple Map Gate, Apple Maps has been getting better and Google Maps has been getting worse, at least on iOS. Though I wish they both would let me turn off the useless 3D feature.
  • Oct 5, 2014
    andydoty
    I've been reading this thread for some time with no comment. So, I have an iPhone, iPad and Apple TVs. However, I'm hoping Tesla does not incorporate carplay (at least as the sole infotainment system). The good thing about apple is the ecosystem (once you dive into it) works flawlessly with itself. The problem is... It works flawlessly with ITSELF. Apple imposes restrictions and polices that I believe can impede technological advancement for 3rd parties. You either solely develop for Apple or you do not (no grey area). I like the open and generic nature of Tesla design. It runs Linux, not some variant or "mini-me" operating system like Android. It would seem to me that the potential for advancement is limitless with that choice.

    The one thing I do agree with is the lack of access to the music stored on our iPhone's without streaming via bluetooth. It would be nice if we could control the iPhone via the Tesla so we wouldn't have to store music on a thumbdrive. It would seem a level of integration with both Android and iPhone would be a win for us as customers. I just believe that the Tesla should be "THE ECOSYSTEM" not adopt a specific technology from someone else. Just my rambling thoughts...
  • Oct 5, 2014
    jomo25
    The request for CarPlay would is not to supplant the entire media UI. But to be an option within the existing one. My (perhaps limited) understanding of CarPlay is that it is often an integrated option in the other manufacturer's units. (Not sure about Pioneer's, but I heard others upcoming allow for Android, Apple, or other.) So it wouldn't necessarily be a "solely develop for Apple or not" situation.
  • Oct 5, 2014
    dsm363
    Yes. CarPlay would hopefully only take over half the 17" screen with the Apple UI. When you wanted to go back to Tesla's UI you would.

    I think they will implement it at some point but they have so much more to do.
  • Oct 27, 2014
    fluxemag
    Agree 100%. I like the way Tesla's proprietary apps work, but the seamless addition of an Apple interface with the content on my phone would be great. Fumbling around with my phone to get to Pandora while I'm driving because Tesla chose Slacker is not ideal.
  • Jan 14, 2015
    Jeroen Tirion
    Hi all,

    Last week I spoke with Mr. Guillen, [FONT=arial, sans-serif]Vice President, Worldwide Sales and Service at Tesla. He was quite clear on my questions concerning Apple CarPlay and Google Android Auto: Tesla will not implement either. They will however improve the integration of smartphones into the media center. Part of this was announced in the release notes of software 6.1, and there's more to come.
    Some sort of SDK for third-party apps is still on the roadmap, and presumably an app could be devised to deliver CarPlay and/or Auto. However the development of this SDK has a lower priority and there are serious safety concerns
    [/FONT]- so it may be a long time yet...

  • Jan 14, 2015
    SR22pilot
    Jeroen- This is VERY disappointing. CarPlay is a great fit for Tesla. Plus, it overcomes a lot of the issues of poor phone integration.
  • Jan 14, 2015
    elie06
    I'm not disappointed. If Tesla does implement a way of having a display mirror of a smartphone in the 17' display i'll be a happy man.
    And if they do an AirPlay like protocol (not to be mistaken with CarPlay) it'll be even better.
    So that You know, I'm part of the French Tesla User's club and we did an extensive document on enhancements to the current V6 firmware that we sent to Jerome and that has been passed to the engineering team.
    Among other things we heavily insisted on Smartphone screen mirroring and Elon Musk did tell at a number of conferences that Tesla would implement someting like that in the near future, so keep your fingers crossed !
  • Jan 14, 2015
    wayner
    I am disappointed as well since CarPlay would make it very easy to implement third party options to the built in features of the Model S. For example, I would prefer Spotify to Slacker and Waze is FAR better at Navigation than the built in Tesla Nav. I would be fine if they would just offer native Spotify and Waze apps in the Tesla but that seems to be a long way off.
  • Jan 14, 2015
    SteveW25561
    I'm very disappointed to hear this. Entry level cars and many 3rd party in dash receivers will offer both android and iOS integration and this makes Tesla look far behind in comparison.

    Simple screen mirroring is insufficient since it won't pass back touch screen gestures. Also the user interface won't be optimized for driving situations.

    In addition offering CarPlay or android auto significantly reduces pressure to develop the SDK since I'd imagine most users would be satisfied with their smartphone apps. The MUCH larger smartphone market also means more apps and more rapid development than a Tesla only market.

    These solutions would only need to take up 1/2 the screen and don't forget they simply augment and not replace the native Tesla OS.
  • Jan 14, 2015
    Gizmotoy
    The media and user interfaces are simply not a priority for them right now. Clearly there are a lot of us who think they should be, but based on the trickle of updates in this area in my 14 months of ownership, they're just not. Certainly Tesla has Model X and Autopilot features to focus on.

    I feel bad complaining about this and think it is perhaps asking a lot of them to make improvements here. Then I get into a 5 year old $14k MSRP Hyundai with better iPhone integration than we have and I stop feeling bad about it.

    I don't think I'm owed better smartphone integration, but I do think it's awfully disappointing we have no integration at all. Especially on a vehicle at this price point.
  • Jan 14, 2015
    markb1
    If you want CarPlay support, please email Tesla to tell them. They keep track of the number of people who request a given feature, and use this information when setting priorities. I was told the best place to email feature requests is service at teslamotors.
  • Jan 14, 2015
    bareyb
    The Audio interface could definitely use some work. It's still too difficult to navigate and requires too much attention away from the road. If Tesla can clean it up a little that would be a good start. Apple is probably charging an arm and leg for the service so that's probably the main reason we aren't getting it... :(
  • Jan 14, 2015
    wayner
    Tesla now has a $25B market cap. Surely they can afford multiple dev teams and can work on multiple functionality at the same time.

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    Especially when you would think that Hyundai would be more biased to their Korean cousins at Samsung and therefore Android.
  • Jan 14, 2015
    jomo25
    Very, very disappointed to hear that they aren't planning CarPlay integration. Big mistake and missed opportunity IMO.

    And FWIW, AirPlay does nothing as far as user functionality better than the existing BT capability, so its pointless to me.
  • Feb 15, 2015
    jamieb
  • Feb 26, 2015
    Thxdude
    Sent my feedback to them. What I want: center console with the nice flip down access to the phone dock/lightening connector. I get in the car, snap in my iPhone and CarPlay pops up on the console. Easy peasy. No reason they can't do this along with Android Auto support also. Everyone wants it. Make it happen!
  • Feb 26, 2015
    billarnett
    I'm sure it's far from easy. But it would be worth quite a large effort, IMHO.
  • Mar 2, 2015
    Thxdude
    I say 'easy' in that they are basically implementing Apple's and Google's 'VNC' framework (in simplistic view, this is what it is...). So compared to say writing the current console OS for the S, not so hard :tongue: It is just a matter of priority and resources and most likely not so much current technical limitations. So keep the feedback going to Tesla.
  • Mar 9, 2015
    SteveW25561
    Apple announced today that CarPlay is being launched by all major car manufacturers this year. I've not heard that Tesla is one of them. Say what you want about not needing CarPlay, to have the option adds flexibility for a user, and the large Tesla touchscreen would make this the best implementation out there.

    Many reports on this but here's one link:

    Apple manufacturers, coming to 40 new car models this year
  • Mar 10, 2015
    ecarfan
    Based on production volume, Tesla is not "major", it's a niche player.

    Based on influence, Tesla punches well above its weight class.

    I hope that when Tesla opens up the center console to outside "apps" that CarPlay will show up on our displays.
  • Mar 10, 2015
    caps04
    Cook just confirmed they don't have a relationship with Tesla so very unlikely at this stage:

    Philip Elmer-DeWitt on Twitter:
  • Mar 10, 2015
    markb1
    Sad. Get with it Tesla. You're behind all the major car manufacturers in this respect.
  • Mar 10, 2015
    cgiGuy
  • Mar 10, 2015
    Gizmotoy
    Ouch. So smartphone integration hasn't even been considered yet. That's not good.
  • Mar 11, 2015
    bob_p
    It appears Apple may be trying to poach Tesla engineers. If that's happening, that could complicate a decision to support CarPlay.

    I have an Android phone and rented a Cadillac XTS over the weekend on a trip - and was surprised at how much better the new Cadilllac system is compared to the Model S. Once paired, when I selected my phone for audio, it immediately started playing my favorites list using the phone's music app. And when I left the car and returned, it would automatically resume playing the last song. In the Model S, I have to re-select my phone every time I return to the car.

    The car also supported text messaging. When I received a text message - a pop-up appeared on the console - and the car read the message, and provided me a short list of canned responses on the console.

    If Tesla isn't going to support the full integration with Apple and Android smartphones - can't we at least get some of these basic features added? Either through Tesla software, or by providing an API to allow 3rd parties the ability to do this???
  • Mar 11, 2015
    Gizmotoy
    Agreed. I haven't seen CarPlay in action, and only one car (Ferrari FF) is currently shipping with it. Asking for immediate CarPlay integration is asking a lot. Basic smartphone integration, such as is seen in even entry level vehicles from practically every manufacturer, on the other hand? Far more difficult to explain away.

    I think most of us assumed Android Auto and CarPlay were coming, hence the delays, but it would appear that's not the case.
  • Mar 11, 2015
    tdiggity
    Here's a review of CarPlay via the pioneer head unit you can buy now: 72 hours with CarPlay: Test-driving the Pioneer AVIC-8000NEX | Macworld
  • Oct 17, 2015
    511keV
    OK, we've got V7.0 with Autopilot (Beta) but the Model S still seems incomplete. Numerous state laws are restricting drivers from touching hand held devices while cars are in operation and since the steering wheel controls of the Model S provide rudimentary control of content selection on iPhones, driving the Model S is an invitation to get a citation while trying to access iPhone podcast app content, etc. How hard can it be for Tesla and Apple to get CarPlay implemented over the next 12 months or so and make the Model S the car it wants to be? I understand both Tesla and Apple are control freak companies but they're both doing so to assure a superior customer experience and, hence, should see working together on CarPlay furthers that goal and eliminates the need for Model S drivers to touch their iPhones while driving.
  • Nov 14, 2015
    skilly
    Carplay is pretty much mainstream in the 2015/2016 manufacture's line up. Ferrari, BMW, VW, Chevy, Honda (the list is too extensive note all of them),...and of course aftermarket. This introduces a "next level" compatibility to smartphone technology that is light years ahead of what the current system being offered gives us. Given that its pervasive in the market, this is Tesla overlooking the obvious because they have to re-invent everything to their own codes...not saying that this is a game changer but this 'attitude' of proprietary thinking has brought MANY companies to their knees. In the world that we live today, it will quickly leave you playing catch up in a sea of competition.

    I could be wrong but this seems like such a huge step forward in pleasing the customer being held back due to ego and proprietary behavioral thinking.
  • Nov 14, 2015
    electracity
    Everyone is allowing carplay and android auto. Even the new ford sync 3 will project carplay. I don't think Tesla has a choice. No one wants their car to be a yet another implementation of phone, texting, and contacts.
    How to implement map is a tough one for Tesla.
  • Nov 14, 2015
    CatB
    Having wrestled with (and procrastinated) the daunting option and complexities of converting my entire iTunes library to ALAC, then FLAC, then recreating all my playlists on folders on a USB... I really hope Tesla considers this a priority - not that I want them to be distracted from more important things, but I've got to believe they can code something on Linux that would support enough interoperability without sacrificing reliability.
  • Nov 14, 2015
    skilly
    I know...what would they do if their traffic monitoring and trip optimization actually worked??
  • Nov 15, 2015
    gizmoboy
    They definitely have a choice, and I suspect it's already been made (against implementing CarPlay or Android Auto). I'll be pleasantly surprised if I'm wrong, but I suspect that if I am, it'll be in the M3 and not before.

    And for the record, I'm definitely in favor of CarPlay support.
  • Nov 15, 2015
    KirkDavis
    I hope I'm wrong but given Musk's comment about Apple I don't think Apple is working with them on this.

    "
    They have hired people we've fired," Musk said. "We always jokingly call Apple the 'Tesla Graveyard.' If you don't make it at Tesla, you go work at Apple. I'm not kidding."'
  • Nov 15, 2015
    gizmoboy
    That sounds like more spin than reality; everyone poaches from everyone else in the Valley. (Except when they collude not to. But even then.)
  • Dec 6, 2015
    SteveW25561
    It's a shame to see Tesla lagging when even Ford is releasing better integration with iphone on cars dating back to 2011 with the release of Siri eyes free: a new update for Sync announced:
    Ford Sync car owners to get Apple's Siri Eyes-Free - CNET
    Ford Sync car owners to get Apple's Siri Eyes-Free - CNET
  • Dec 7, 2015
    cwerdna
    Yep. CarPlay: Everything We Know | MacRumors has a list. A list of automakers that will/already support it is near the bottom of CarPlay - Apple.
  • Dec 7, 2015
    HFh
    It would certainly make my life easier. Just Bluetooth with time elapsed and remaining would be nice.
  • Dec 7, 2015
    skilly
    I have to say after using CarPlay over the weekend on a 1,000 road trip that it is an underwhelming experience.

    We would be better off steering clear of it until they get more friendly with the apps on the phone (most aren't supported). First and foremost, I don't know how Tesla could ever support it because it requires your system to communicate directly with your phone - with a hard plug in...having your phone tethered is a pain. Second, it really isnt better in any way at all except for its ability to navigate through your song lists and selecting items and playlists like the phone interface allows. In fact, outside of that, everything else is WORSE than what we have in the Model S interface today - it forces you to use Apple navigation and a reduced version thereof, which is hardly a decent system (no Waze support or any other nav for that matter). Any integration to texts (none for emails) is all really linked through Siri, and ultimately has you reaching for your phone, which of course is tethered...any activity on the phone is mirrored on your screen so if your passenger is navigating through, lets say Pandora, and you need to enter an address, your activity cuts them out of theirs and takes over the screen.

    The system isnt thought out - its clunky and proprietary (worse than the iPhone!)....Im having the head until removed and returned to the shop in favor of the old factory system. Count your blessings that Tesla didn't embrace this system!!

    By the way, for those looking to integrate Siri with he Model S, thats available today - she can read emails; compose; read text etc, all upon voice command. As long as your phone is plugged into charging, and you have selected 'Allow "Hey Siri" in you settings (settings--> general --> Sir --> Allow "Hey Siri") you can activate that feature at any time by simply calling out in your car, "Hey Siri!",,,of course, your phone has to be connected via bluetooth but it DOES NOT have to be selected as your sound source at the time of your request. In other words you could be listening to the radio and ask Siri a question and she will respond through the phone integration - as if you were carrying on a phone conversation.
  • Dec 7, 2015
    liuping
    I plug my phone in pretty much every time I'm in the car, so that does not really bother me. Most iPhone/Android integration systems require you to connect the phone.


    As far as more apps being supported, that is definitely an issue with the current Carplay, but Iit's almost certain there will be Waze support in Carplay before there is native Tesla support for Waze. Same goes for Native Pandora support, Apple Music, Amazon prime music, Google Play, etc.

    Tesla do not have the resources, or will, to add support for many things user want which will be available on Carplay and Android Auto. That is the real benefit from integrating those systems. Tesla can then forcus on what's important to them, like perfecting Autopilot.
  • Dec 7, 2015
    skilly
    Looking at what they have built today (and fully realizing its shortcomings after a year of ownership), moving to CarPlay would be a giant leap backwards if all things remained equal today. Im not even sure how they would do it given that Carplay is really just a giant mirroring tool for the iPhone with extremely reduced functionality.

    Suffice to say, the grass is not greener at all - this is just my opinion of course, but at least its informed with both sides of the discussion (and that isnt to say others don't have the same experience - just speaking about my own experience)..
  • Dec 7, 2015
    liuping
    Car play could be implemented as one of the 2 windows on screen. It would be relatively easy to do, Tesla just does not want to do it.

    While the interface it not great, either is the current Media center, which is a terribly design from both a usability-while-driving and feature set stand point.
  • Dec 7, 2015
    youlikeadajuice
    Mirroring in one of the center screen windows is exactly what I want. Improved functionality will come in time.
  • Dec 7, 2015
    skilly
    And, this same progress will be made with Tesla. Im not a Tesla biggot - in theory I loved the idea of CarPlay...I converted my other car to it. Its just after using both that I can say how problematic the CarPlay interface is...of course to each their own, but my vote is that in its current state, it would be a giant step backwards. It needs a LOT of work in its current form - the apps really don't work without you having to reach for your phone...and if thats what you're having to do, then what is the point?
  • Dec 7, 2015
    HFh
    I don't want CarPlay to replace Tesla's stuff, I want it as a supplement.

    I know I say this a lot, but Tesla can't even be bothered to implement time elapsed and remaining when connected to Bluetooth. Seriously, what the hell? How hard is that?
  • Dec 7, 2015
    liuping
    I'm a huge Tesla supporter and love my Model S (I'm on my second one), but I highly doubt Tesla will update there media center to support other players or add Waze support any where nearly as fast as either Carplay or Android Auto will.

    They just don't have the resources and/or it is not a priority to do those things.

    They can barely get a decent navigation system implemented, and that should be a priority. I can't imagine how low on there list support for Apple Music, or Pandora, or even basic smart phone integration is.
  • Dec 7, 2015
    skilly
    Its a hardware and software problem...if history is an indication of the future, both are problematic and even if they do solve for this, I can't imagine it will be a retrofit...in fact, there isn't a car company on the planet that offers the integration after the fact because any significant integration will require that hardware component and the wiring just isn't plug and play...Ive had BMWs that appear on the surface to be a simple fix; both even have the same phone cradle to the eye; however, BMW apps isn't retro because the entire wiring harness is different. I had the same experience with my Porsche and their integration offering. And that was just to access Apps available in their world and interface with the phone.

    I just don't see it happening, and now I know more about it, I don't see it as a bad thing at all...
  • Dec 7, 2015
    Gizmotoy
    Strange. A friend of ours has a new XC90 with CarPlay and we found it seemed to work extremely well. It did need a direct connection, but supposedly the car supports the wireless option introduced in iOS 9 and they were told a firmware update will enable it in early 2016. True? Who knows. Voice commands worked extremely well. Spotify availability is pretty great. No Waze yet, which sucks, but maybe soon.

    I guess my experience is more limited, but considering the car currently can't do a whole host of that stuff, I find it hard agree that it would be a "giant step backwards." Indeed, this is exactly the kind of flexibility having a touchscreen as the primary display enables.
  • Dec 7, 2015
    ZBB
    I was going to say that iOS 9 support CarPlay wirelessly...

    Also, App Support is up to the app developers to enable the CarPlay-friendly screens. If you use an app that isn't on CarPlay, encourage the developer to support it.

    I really wish Tesla would support it soon -- its designed to supplement the on-board systems (not replace) and gives better integration than we have today... Give us a 1/2 screen CarPlay app in the car and I'd be happy. And they could provide an Android Auto app to keep Android users happy...
  • Dec 7, 2015
    skilly
    I like the music integration. Its exactly what is needed, but that said, I don't think that has to come in the form of CarPlay. And, outside of this it really doesn't do anything you couldn't perform with "Hey Siri" today. And, do it in a less cumbersome manner.

  • Dec 7, 2015
    liuping
    It's almost entirely a software problem, not a hardware one. The hardware "interface" is USB post and/or WiFi (in iOS9). Both of which the Model S has.

    Upgrading other cars are irrelevant, since none are designed like the model S. The Model S has a general CPU running Linux. It's a computer on wheels. Heck, you can even plug a mouse in and control a cursor on screen.
  • Jan 9, 2016
    511keV
    The Massachusetts legislature is holding hearings as part of the push for laws requiring "handheld device free driving" and Tesla's lack of Carplay integration or its Android equivalent is going to become a big problem if these proposals become law. The current Tesla controls do not permit me to easily control the IOS 9 Podcast app and since I spend most of my Tesla driving time listening to podcasts not music or the radio, this is going to be a problem for me. I like virtually every aspect of my 85D but this is one area where it can be improved. I don't think Carplay should replace any of the car's built in functionality but should be one of the items on the current sparsely populated Apps tab.
  • Jan 25, 2016
    markwj
    See here: Hong Kong Tesla Special Event - 25th January 2016 6:30pm HKT - Page 2

    In Hong Kong, last night, Elon Musk said:

    Wow. That is a pretty clear statement of change of direction and support for car play and Android auto. It is something I'm really looking forward to.
  • Jan 25, 2016
    electracity
    Volvo has one of the better new car systems. They allow carplay to be projected on half the screen. Not really elegantly integrated, but it works.

    Tesla will be forced to do something like this. Even if they could replicate the apps, the Tesla programs wouldn't integrate well with the owners computer ecosystem (icloud or whatever). This is the area that Apple will need to exploit well to differentiate an Apple car from everyone else.

    Most people in the apple ecosystem probably wouldn't pay a premium for a car just because it is built by Apple. But most Apple users would pay a premium for a car that was superior an integrating Apple functionality.
  • Jan 25, 2016
    dsm363
    Great news and much easier for them to support I would imagine. They still could get around to supporting native apps among a few approved developers but at least this takes the issue off the table once it is done.
  • Jan 25, 2016
    SteveW25561

    Thanks -- that's great news which I hope comes true sooner rather than later. This would quiet us down while Tesla focuses on other aspects of the UI and software rather than worry about app security and a Tesla app store (especially since, if properly implemented, Airplay/Android Auto are just a display with audio and touch inputs).
  • Jan 25, 2016
    jomo25
    Thank you. This is what is needed.
  • May 21, 2016
    Bladerunner
    Any news or updates on CarPlay?
  • May 21, 2016
    thegruf
    It appears the direction is different. To "project" the phone onto 17 inch screen.

    This has been stated twice by Elon now that I know of, Hong Kong and also in France where he added that the display part is not difficult but the touch part is more tricky, iirc in France he also said release middle of this year. Allowing for usual software delays perhaps we can hope for the 17 inch screen to mirror our phones sometimes this year. A massive step over car play if they can do it imo.

    Google are also working increasingly (you can bet Apple are doing exactly the same) on full Android platform for cars, not just Android auto, this was previewed in a Maserati at the Villa d'Este show.

    Fast moving times.
  • May 21, 2016
    electracity
    I believe Volvo is doing this. They just give a portion of the main screen over to carplay. I will be surprised if this function is not in the model 3. Apple intentionally makes this approach difficult by not allowing the car makers to re-skin their app.
  • May 21, 2016
    Argelius
    About the only disappointment I have with Tesla is the complete lack of any new (or improved) "apps". I seem to remember Elon saying they are coming "soon" (several years ago).

    This is where it seems a huge potential is being lost. Sure, Tesla could open up APIs to third party developers, but are they really going to want to put energy into developing for a third, niche market (after iOS and Android)? Seems doubtful.
  • May 21, 2016
    CatB
    Anybody know more about how this would work? I'm still looking for a way to get music in ALAC format to play on my MS.
  • May 21, 2016
    electracity
    I think there will be a major software release, perhaps coinciding with the model 3 reveal. Probably a flatter look and some new functions.
  • May 21, 2016
    Vince Cobelo
    ^^^ I don't think so. Tesla has to do something with this long before then. They need to keep S and X selling hot and if there is one major flaw in the car this is it. Everything else they are ahead. Not with apps and phone connectivity.
  • May 21, 2016
    electracity
    You could be right. They could be holding the new software for when they need to drive demand.
  • May 22, 2016
    cab
    The real question here isn't "will Tesla offer Carpay and Android Auto?", but will it be retrofittable to existing cars and, if even possible, will it be free? I have serious doubts it will be retrofitted...
  • May 22, 2016
    thegruf
    again, Elon stated in the Paris Q+A (sorry can't find the thread to link to) that they were looking at fully remoting the phone screen and touch functionality and exepcted to release something in the middle of this year, so allowing for a few delays I guess we can hope for somthing quite exciting later this year.
    My expectation is that this will be software only so will be an update for existing owners and will form (pat of?) the much hoped for update to the Media interface.
  • May 23, 2016
    zambono
    If they are able to clone your current screen on the 17, with some adjustments for the aspect ratio it will be better than carplay or auto since you will be able to use any app that works on your phone. I hope that their implementation makes audio playback simple and without any loss in quality.
  • May 23, 2016
    eyespii
    Ugh this would be amazing. In my mind, I'm imagining "projecting" the iphone screen to the car display, much like in the way that you would when you use Airplay to mirror your iphone's display on something like a TV. Except in this case, you would be able to interact with the phone via the tesla touchscreen. Right now, unless I'm mistaken, when you Airplay mirror, you can't interact with the phone from the external display at all - all controls are still done through the iPhone.

    Is there any system at all that works in the way that I described above? I would absolutely love to be proven wrong, and despite Elon's musings, I don't see it happening, at least any time soon...
  • May 23, 2016
    eclipxe
    No and this won't be possible on iPhone. Apps can't access the overall screen buffer. AirPlay doesn't support control back to the phone.
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