Jan 12, 2013
patp One thing I really do not like on Model S (and my other previous cars) is that the license plate is illuminated by yellowish incandescent bulbs while the rest of car is total LED.
As anyone replaced them with something whiter (LEDs or superwhite bulbs)? Also, what's the bulb type?�
Jan 12, 2013
vcor Last week I went over looking at every LED I could find on the Model S to get a lamp count, and noticed this too. I suspect they either couldn't source a LED bulb in time, the LEDs had directional problems, or ones they got were unsatisfactory in some other way, so they went with incandescent. It's a 36mm Festoon bulb. My 2007 LS460 has LEDs for the license plate, so it was surprising to see this on the Tesla.
I'll likely replace mine too. Strange that such a minor thing is bothersome, but no reflection on Tesla - the incandescent does actually work. If this is the only complaint, they are doing a hell of a job!�
Jan 12, 2013
araxara Yes, I have replaced my license plate bulbs in my Model S with LEDs. The bulbs are 36mm Festoon type (long skinny). I bought a pair of LEDs from eBay. The only "issue" I had was that the LEDs were 1.5W each and produced way more light than the stock bulbs. Since they are unidirectional, I rotated them a little. I've since ordered some LED bulbs that are 1W each - unfortunately, my car is being serviced and I can't replace the bulbs with the 1W ones yet. Here is a link to the 1W bulbs I bought:
2 Super Bright White LED License Plate Lights 1.5" Festoon 6418 C5W 1 WATT
You need to be careful with these LEDs, since they have a metal body. The clips in the license plate light housing that hold them could potentially short out. I covered the LED light housing ends with electrical tape which was appropriately hollow punched.
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Jan 12, 2013
FlasherZ As they were loading my model S on the flatbed for its trip to Chicago, I was surprised myself to note the incandescent bulb and began my own hunt for replacements. Thanks araxara!�
Jan 12, 2013
efxjim Thanks, have ordered bulbs!�
Jan 12, 2013
Mike_Schlechter When I get a license plate I'll worry about how it is lit...�
Jan 12, 2013
steve841 A before and after shot would be greatly appreciated!�
Jan 12, 2013
araxara Sorry, I didn't take a before shot - I suppose someone else could post a picture of their unmodified lights. After shot will come when I get my car back.�
Jan 12, 2013
Babylonfive Was there a clear plate over that location?�
Jan 12, 2013
araxara Yes. That's a picture of the LED light mounted in the housing. There is a clear water tight cover that is screwed into place. I was just trying to show the LED held into the clips (which can cause a short if the bulb is not properly insulated). Actually, when removing the clear housing, there are plastic clips on the housing that clip to the ends of the bulb and make it easier to remove.
Here is an image with the LED bulb held in place by the plastic clips. Note that there is no insulation installed yet on the bulb ends:
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Jan 13, 2013
Al Sherman Would you mind showing a pic with the insulation on?�
Jan 13, 2013
efusco araxara, could you show a photo of exactly where you put the electrical tape? I'm a tad confused about what contact areas are of concern.�
Jan 13, 2013
araxara Sorry for the confusion. I've updated the photos on the original reply.
My shorting concern is probably overblown: Both pins are insulated from the body (checked this visually and with a continuity meter). If the LEDs were to slide on the clips that hold them in place, one of the clips would touch the body. But the other clip would be sufficiently away from the body, so there is no shorting potential. I just wanted the peace of mind.
Here is a more detailed image of the LED bulb (1 Watt bulb shown) which may help illustrate the problem:
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Jan 13, 2013
efusco Ok, that's kind of what I thought you were saying and it makes sense to add a little extra insulation. The new photos really clarify that quite a lot. Thank you very much. I've ordered the 1W bulbs and look forward to installing them.�
Jan 13, 2013
swegman The link provided by Araxara indicates these are 1W bulbs in the heading. However, reading the specs in the ad states they are 2W each. Has anyone received these bulbs yet to confirm their actual wattage, and whether the brightness is correct? Thanks.�
Jan 13, 2013
mknox So,how many extra miles of range does this mod give you? :wink:�
Jan 13, 2013
jerry33 If the OE bulb is 10W and the LED is 2W (based on the text rather than the title) you gain 8W, at 300 Wh/m you will get one mile for every 37.5 hours of driving with the lights on.�
Jan 13, 2013
vcor Since there are two bulbs required, you should gain 16 W (10W - 2W)*2 = 16 W. This means you get 2 miles per 37.5 hours of driving!
Or at $0.14/KW hour for electricity, you'll save $8.75 for every 1000 hours your lights are on.
These are the kinds of big savings I live for! Use 1W bulbs and save even more (although not much more).�
Jan 13, 2013
Jeeps17 I wonder why Tesla went old-school with these bulbs.
Notwithstanding the energy savings noted above, I find that LEDs in that position look substantially better at night that incandescents (IMHO). They really do stand out from the crowd in traffic.�
Jan 13, 2013
jerry33 I assume they did it to save a few bucks, or perhaps they couldn't get a reliable supply at the time they were finalizing the design. They didn't go with LED headlights either.�
Nov 20, 2014
Larry93428 Does the Model D come with incandescent lamps in the license plate light?�
Nov 20, 2014
breser My September 2014 S85 had them, but I'm trading it for an 85D. I'm betting the new cars still have incandescent plate lights. I bought LEDs for the S85 but put the regular bulbs back in before trading it. So I've got the LEDs waiting to swap out when I get the 85D.�
Dec 8, 2014
Larry93428 One of my LEDs quit and the other is intermittent. (This after very little night driving.)
I pulled the failed one and it reads open in both directions. Is that a valid test with an Ohmmeter?
The LED is marked: OSRAM 12V 1W 6498 CW 600nk 3Q
Should I buy another pair or am I wasting my money?
The package was labeled 6418 but the ID is 6498 bothers me.
Thanks for your help,
~Larry�
Dec 9, 2014
aneusomy I'm wondering if I have the same problem. My P85 is just over 2 months old. I bought LEDs from VLEDS as others have suggested on this forum (6K light). After a few weeks one LED "blew". I exchanged the pair. Now I thought another one has "blown" except I see it working intermittently. I've no background in electric/mechanical/etc, so not sure what to do. Tesla doesn't want to test the wiring or anything to see if it's a problem with the car. It seems randomly to come back on then off; not sure how to reproduce or provoke it. Anyone have any ideas?
Thanks all in advance�
Dec 9, 2014
sickfox Just installed my license plate LED.
6K from VLED.
Skill Level: 2 (newb) :smile:
Time to finish: ~10 minutes
4SUPER9 - You crack me up. I read that too in this thread so I was pacing myself and bust out the tool box. 10 minutes later, done! :tongue:
Taking it out from package: 1 minute
Removing it from plastic with care = 2 minutes
Unscrew and install the first LED: 5 minutes
Took a picture of first completed LED: 30 seconds
See the difference? warm vs cool
Completed the second set: 1 minute (my skill level went up)
Took a picture of the final mod: 30 seconds
Enjoy, or rather the car behind you will enjoy it! :biggrin:�
Dec 11, 2014
Larry93428 I got these from PEP BOYS:
They are working OK so far.
The packaging is interesting as it includes everything you need to see the light in the store.
There is a battery, switch, clips and wires, all unwanted and useless, and will clutter the garage forever.
The rack in the store has red, amber, blue and white LEDs all for you to push the red button to try them out.
Anyway, these are working OK for me.
~Larry�
Dec 14, 2014
aneusomy Hi guys,
In case any one else is having issues with intermittent license plates lights (LED -- specifically the VLEDs, see my post above where my right plate light sometimes comes back to life) -- maybe I'm one of a few isolated cases -- I thought I'd write down what I've done that I think fixed it, if it may help anyone else:
I tried using electrical tape along the rim of the LED wall where the (thin) insulator strip is, thinking that the light socket metal pieces may be touching and shorting it (as someone else earlier in the thread also suggested).
Not sure if this specifically fixed things, but upon placing the lights back into the socket they worked fine.
So I then put the screws back into the plastic pieces and tightened them in position, figuring job done, and to my surprise now both lights weren't working. I loosened the screws a bit and both lights came back on.
Not sure why this is an issue, but it appears you can't tighten them all the way or something doesn't fall in place (?) properly and so my lights didn't work.
I'll keep an eye to see if the lights now work properly.�
Dec 14, 2014
scaesare Also, I'm not sure of the situation with some other brands of LED lamp replacements, but the ones I got from Amazon felt just a hair loose in the bulb socket... as if the replacement was slightly shorter.
I wound a strip of electrical tape around the edge/side of the socket assembly once the lamp was installed, thus "cinching it down" a bit before screwing the unit back in to the liftgate.�
Dec 14, 2014
pete8314 I was hoping to have my LED bulb set for sale by now, but shipping is so slow at this time of year. I'll post here when they come in (within the next week I think), but they're designed exclusively for the Model S, in terms of size (exact match for the OEM bulb) and color (same temperature as the front fog lights). They're also a higher-quality type of LED bulb (genuine Cree) sourced from a Taiwanese manufacturer that supplies other major automotive brands, and have built-in insulator pads and polarity indicators. They've been tested in a handful of Model S's in most climates with a zero failure rate, but they're covered with an unconditional 2-year guarantee anyway.�
Dec 14, 2014
AmpedRealtor The VLEDs fit perfectly and work like a charm!�
Dec 14, 2014
aneusomy
I'm still having mine from VLEDs go on/off intermittently. I've either a defective bulb, or perhaps like yours they are a hair loose in the bulb socket.. ugggh�
Dec 16, 2014
EarlyAdopter Out of curiosity, how do you guys know its gone out? It's not like you can see it while driving.�
Dec 16, 2014
Paul Carter Usually notice it when I unlock with the back in sight. My VLEDs are on the blink now too. Will try and see if I can try the tape/loosening..Thx for the tips all!�
Dec 16, 2014
aneusomy I tried the electrical tape (see pictures) on my VLEDs but one bulb still seems to blink out.
If you compare these bulbs to the standard filament bulb that came with the car, they are bulkier (the LED and walls protude out) so I wondered if this was the cause of it shorting out somewhere. So, I wrapped the sides to prevent the sides of the bulb from touching the socket holders; and also the top portion of the bulbs because I noticed at the deep in the socket there is a metal piece, and wondered if when the plastic bulb holder / bulb was in, it would touch the metal and short.
Regardless, made no difference.
In the end, I wonder about the fit of these bulbs, if it's the bulbs themselves that have issues, or just that the Tesla socket sucks. It may be I give up and just try a different brand.
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Dec 17, 2014
AmpedRealtor Turn on your rear camera while driving at night, it's pretty easy to see the glow cast on the pavement behind.�
Dec 19, 2014
sickfox Aneusomy - How long did you have your VLEDS? I bought mine last November and installed it a couple of weeks ago when I got the car. So far, I have no issues. But now i'm wondering if I should pay attention. Initially, when I installed one, it didn't work. But I reversed the led and it worked. Hopefully yours work out. the VLEDS are not cheap so I hope we dont keep on replacing them.
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Dec 19, 2014
Xenoilphobe Ive had my vLeds in for a year - no issues - and super bright. I moved the crappy amazon ones (they also got super hot) to my ford fusion hybrid - one is now is intermittently failing.�
Dec 19, 2014
Gizmotoy I had one of the AGTs posted earlier in the thread crap out. Just ordered a replacement. Maybe I should have checked here first. When the replacements show up I'll try to figure out if it was just loose or actually burnt out.�
Dec 19, 2014
aneusomy Hi
I got the car Sept 30; got the VLEDs about a week later. I've paid attention to the polarity. I think initially I assumed everything was OK, so I wasn't really paying attention. But about a month later I noticed one light (I think the right) was off when I unlocked the car while standing behind the car. I thought that bulb was defective -- even switched it to the other socket, didn't work -- so I exchanged it fairly quickly. I didn't really test it rigorously. But I figured the problem was solved once the bulb was replaced. But then I started having problems again about a week later with the new one -- my left light. But this time I was too busy to rush and exchange it, and oddly the thing randomly turned back on, which is when I started figuring that it's a loose connection or the bulb is flaky.
On the one hand, my delivery specialist said that the Model S seems to have an issue with the LEDs (didn't expand on it); he himself had problems with LEDs for his plate that kept turning on/off. He seemed to try different brands and found something local which seems to have worked for some time now (he said "fingers crossed").
Anyway, when these lights work, they're nice. The interesting thing is that really it's always the same side bulb that's not working this time (the left); and last time (the right), so I wonder about the bulb. The first time I exchanged the bulbs, I exchanged *BOTH* (the "defective" one and the good one)-- wish I kept the good one to see test if it's a bulb issue (maybe they have a quality control issue).
Uggh. Eventually I may just go replace the ? flaky bulb and see if things work; will reply once I do.
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Jan 12, 2015
pete8314 Following up on this, they're now available, with installation instructions here.�
Jan 13, 2015
Xenoilphobe grab some aluminum foil and beef it up -- it will be tighter and you won't have the intermittent issue.�
Jan 13, 2015
sickfox Now I'm having the same LED issue with my VLED. My left side LED is not working intermittently. It weird because when I first turn on the car, both lights are working. After a few minutes of driving, it turns off. I did some tests - switched the LED to the right side (did not work), switch the white plastic that holds the LED with the LED to the right side (did not work), moved the right LED to the left side (works). So I think in conclusion, I have a faulty LED.
Hopefully, the replacement LED will solve the problem. Will report back after a month or two. :crying:�
Jan 16, 2015
aneusomy Hi all,
I thought I'd post an update, if anyone is interested.
So I continued having intermittent reliability issues with my VLEDs. Instead, I now got a set of LEDs from Abstract Ocean (http://www.abstractocean.com/led-licence-plate-bulb-kit/). I have had them over a week now, and all I can say is that they work beautifully and reliably. I am SUPER happy.
1. These bulbs worked right off the bat - no flickering, flakiness, "sensitivity" to how much I tightened/loosened the screws, or other non-sense. They. just. work. Funny thing is, out of habit I keep checking on them half-expecting one bulb to be off, but no, they keep working
2. They are just a tad brighter than the VLEDs.. fantastic.
3. They give off nice white light and look great. Just a touch warmer in colour than the VLEDs, but I think it looks better this way and matches the backup/reverse white LED lights.
If anyone is interested, I can post some pictures of the lights working. BTW, if it makes any difference, my P85 was delivered Sept 30 2014.
In the mean time, here's a comparison photo of the VLEDs (the "rounder" bulb) and the bad boys from Abstract Ocean (the "block" bulb). Notice the thick white insulation at the sides! (The VLED bulb has black insulator tape that I stuck on, to no avail).
Ben
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Jan 16, 2015
Tony Lin thx ben, was looking for a set.�
Jan 16, 2015
Gizmotoy Those look nice. Seems to be a refinement of AGT's design: Amazon.com: AGT 36mm LED Bulbs Pair White 6000K 3423 3425 46413 6418 6423 6451 6461 6475 6476 6461 6486X: Automotive
I would have ordered AO's version a few weeks ago when I replaced mine had I known AO worked to develop an improved model.�
Jan 16, 2015
sickfox Ben - Thanks for posting.
If my replacement VLED is still not working, this is my next action item.
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Jan 16, 2015
hans You might find that those kind rotate over time and then the light is not being projected in the correct direction.�
Jan 16, 2015
Gizmotoy Not that one data point is particularly useful, but my AGTs, on which those appear to be based, have been fine over the past 13 months. Still pointing down. They're really snug in the housing.
One did fail, though, and I just replaced it.�
Jan 16, 2015
pete8314 I guess that technically they're a refinement on the basic design, but they are an entirely different bulb and manufacturer. I tried the AGT ones, but as they state on the listing, the all-metal body makes them susceptible to shorting. Also, 36mm is not quite the right dimension to match the OEM bulbs, and 6k doesn't quite match the other LED lamps on the car. All small details, but that's what makes us special�
Jan 16, 2015
trils0n The AGT bulbs I got over a year and a half ago have been flawless. I got the 36mm and they seemed to fit perfectly. What is the correct dimension? They have little plastic insulator rings as well -- are they not sufficient to prevent shorting?�
Jan 17, 2015
pete8314 Not sure about the insulator ring, I'm just going by what they mention in their Amazon listing:
36 is a little short, but based on a sample of around 12 OEM bulbs, there's quite a wide tolerance in these things.�
Jan 17, 2015
xy46 I just bought and installed a set of the Abstract Ocean LED bulbs today. Very snug fit and look great. Very happy with them so far.�
Jan 18, 2015
aneusomy Me too. You cannot believe how such a small thing has been so frustrating.. that having them finally working has made me happier than I should be over something like this. These bulbs are great!
Anyway, a few people PM'd for a pic; I've attached one. I could do one in daylight too if requested.
Ben
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Jan 19, 2015
Phil K Great photo Ben!�
Feb 16, 2015
hingisfan Uggg....somehow I lost one of the little rubber washers that go on the screws. Any idea hoe I can find one? Or is it not really a big deal?�
Feb 16, 2015
Eseell Any hardware store should carry rubber washers.�
Feb 16, 2015
Larry93428 Right. Look for O-rings.
~Larry�
Feb 16, 2015
breser That word is forever going to give me nightmares now.�
Feb 16, 2015
auger These were mentioned way back in the thread, but I went to AutoZone several months ago and picked up a couple of Sylvania 6418 LEDs. They fit well with no "mods" and have worked perfectly ever since. Plus instant gratification.
http://www.autozone.com/electrical-and-lighting/seat-belt-light-mini-bulb/sylvania-led-ashtray-light-led-mini-bulb_/449374_678836_19973/�
Feb 16, 2015
Paul Carter So my VLEDS went on the blink and one burned out (actually some of the VLEDS actually burned right off like they shorted!).
Found something to try at Metropolis Metrotown (Burnaby, BC) - Overdrive Auto Tuning Ltd near Winners/HomeSense.
Very inexpensive at $5.99 each. Part # 36mm-2smd-w-canb (36mm festoon 2 smd led while canbus). A little less light than the VLEDS, but I like them.
They clipped in very snug, but not into the cover. Anyway he looked up which ones should be used and that's what came up, so I went for it.
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Feb 17, 2015
pete8314 IT's not a big deal; I'm sure they help prevent water intrusion, but in all the testing I've been doing I think I've lost 2 of the 4 now.�
Feb 24, 2015
breser I had a set of VLEDS that I bought for my S85 and saved to put in the 85D. When I put them in the 85D one was being a bit finicky. But I got it to work. But I soon noticed it was out again. Tried getting it to work but it refuses to light now. I've given up and ordered the Abstract Ocean set.�
Feb 24, 2015
xy46 You will not be disappointed with the Abstract Ocean set - they have worked flawlessly for me!�
Feb 25, 2015
hingisfan I just ordered up a set as well as a couple screen protectors....had the coupon from my fob covers order. Don't have the time or patience to mess with cheaper bulbs. If anyone doesn't have fob covers, the quality of the silicone covers from AO is amazing. I absolutely love them.�
Feb 25, 2015
JPP Pete--is it still true that current Model S production still uses old incandescent license plate lamps? is this a US DOT issue? I assume not as other cars sold in the US have LED lamps. Guess it keeps you in business...�
Feb 25, 2015
breser I'm not Pete but my 85D I picked up a week ago still had incandescent license plate lamps. I'd bet money that Tesla is just buying a part that includes the bulb from someone. They certainly didn't have the volume to get a part special made for them in the past. They might now but they may just not have gotten around to it yet.�
Feb 25, 2015
Sogorman +1 for the guys over at Abstract Ocean. Swapped out the standard incandescent bulbs for their LED replacements on my S85 yesterday. Easy as pie, and looks great.�
Feb 25, 2015
pete8314 It is true, I'm not sure why, always wondered that on my other cars as well, Tesla isn't alone in putting LEDs almost everywhere, except the license plate. The size of festoon bulb they're using is particularly standard either, so I'm sure it comes from a parts bin, presumably Mercedes, but finding the equivalent size LED was not easy, none of the good OEMs produce them in bulk. Same bulb in use on the Roadster, apparently.
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I think it's just an oversight on their part. I certainly don't have the volume they have, yet my bulbs are 100% designed for this specific application, nobody else has these bulbs). The downside is that margin is actually very thin (I know, I hear violins playing in the distance!), because I'm not able to order in volume (i.e. 10,000+ units).�
Feb 25, 2015
DavidB I'll also give a shout-out to Abstract Ocean.
I love their silicone FobPockets. Even after several months of use, my FobPocket seems to be just as clean as when it was brand new. Well done, AO!
Likewise, I'm very impressed with Abstract Ocean's LED license plate bulb replacements. The bulbs are both whiter and brighter, and look much better than the light bulbs that came with my Tesla.
http://www.abstractocean.com/store/�
Feb 25, 2015
aneusomy I've gotta also give a shout-out to Abstract Ocean.
I had issues with my VLEDS in this car, but the Abstract Ocean bulbs are ROCK SOLID and have been from the moment I put them in, for the past few months now. I cannot be happier, and without hesitation I recommend them to any owner who wants a beautiful set of LEDs for their license plate lightning.
Thanks Pete!!!!!!�
Feb 27, 2015
morbot Just finished installing my LEDs from Abstract Ocean, they look great. Captured a few pics: Before, half-installed, and after:
This is the before shot, using the standard bulbs:
Here's the midway shot. LED on left, old bulb on right:
And the final results, looks great & easy to install!
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Mar 2, 2015
breser Just to clarify, I'm assuming they'd need to get the manufacturer of the license plate lighting assembly they are using to change bulbs. That manufacturer probably wouldn't bother to do it for a few thousand assemblies. Getting a bulb made like you did is certainly a possibility for Tesla. But if the assembly is already together (as I'm assuming) and they have to change bulbs then they're paying for bulbs they don't need and they have to spend money on labor to change them. So I still think volume matters here.
Installed the Abstract Ocean set tonight. Worked without any fiddling. I'm happy with them. Thanks Pete.�
Mar 2, 2015
JBrown4390 +1 Abstract Ocean license plate bulbs are a perfect plug and play solution.�
Mar 3, 2015
pete8314 Thanks for the all the kind words. Partly as a result of this thread, we're now out of stock on the site, should have lots more coming in about two weeks. If you can't want that long, and you're in the US, we still have some stock in our Amazon store.�
Mar 4, 2015
Eseell Installed the Abstract Ocean LEDs in my new Model S yesterday. Only took a couple of minutes, super easy and they look great!�
Apr 24, 2015
iKhalid Just submitted an order from Canada as well. Also a VLEDS refugee.�
Apr 25, 2015
pete8314 They're on their way to you...thanks for the order, hope you love them!�
Apr 26, 2015
aneusomy I've had my Abstract Ocean bulbs for a few months now (see earlier in the thread, also a VLEDS "refugee" lol). Just checking in to say these bulbs are still going strong and are awesome!! Definitely an essential purchase for any Tesla owner. Thanks again Pete!!!!
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Apr 26, 2015
iKhalid Thanks! I think I will.
Just a technical question, do they have resistors in them? Not a big deal for me but I hope they don't, because they are nor required in Tesla, and they consume a tiny bit of energy�
Apr 26, 2015
nico1199 is there an install guide somewhere in this thread? i prefer not to look through 24 pages...�
Apr 26, 2015
iKhalid Just remove the small screws (2 on each lens) and remove the bulbs. Nothing fancy.�
Apr 26, 2015
nico1199 that's what i figured; just wanted to make sure. thanks!�
Apr 27, 2015
xy46 There are two small plastic washers between the screw heads and lens. Make sure you don't lose them, as they are there to prevent water intrusion behind the lens. It's an easy job, and you will be glad you did it. They look great and the Abstract Ocean bulbs work flawlessly. I have had mine installed for months now and no problems. A second thank you to Pete!�
Apr 30, 2015
pete8314 Sorry for the delay: install guide for the AO Bulbs is here: LED Bulb (licence plate) Installation Guide
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Correct. There's a diode, but no resistor.�
May 5, 2015
iKhalid I just received Abstract Ocean LEDs in the mail and couldn't wait to install them. So simple, that you don't even have to remove the screws completely. Anyways, back to the bulbs. Here are some pics:
1. A comparison between VLEDS (right) and the new Abstract Ocean LEDs (left).
2. Comparison between the bulbs. Many small LEDs vs 2 big LEDs.
(thanks for the mystery item :wink
3. VLEDS' bulb (the burnt bulb) showing some rust in the place of the LEDs that fell! Not sure how that happened...
4. Final result; sorry for not waiting until night time, but I think some other members have already uploaded a few.
(I just realized how great are the photos taken by Nexus 6)�
May 6, 2015
pete8314 Awesome, and great photos!�
May 13, 2015
tliving Here's a before/after picture of the Abstract Ocean LEDs (replacing my original ones):
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Jul 11, 2015
FlatSix911 Well done!�
Jul 11, 2015
travwill Probably be said many times... I also replaced mine with the LEDs from Abstract, first day or so had the car actually. Took five minutes and looks much better! Recommend it for sure ;-)�
Sep 18, 2015
razumny Has there been any word on why they have gone for incandescent bulbs on the mod. S? I gather the word is that the mod. X will ship with LEDs...�
Sep 18, 2015
FlatSix911 There are only 4 incandesenent Edison bulbs on the Model S and all can easily be replaced with LEDs.
Two 36mm festoon bulbs above the license plate and two 168 bulbs inside the side turn signals.�
Sep 18, 2015
JPP ...I read somewhere on these forums that the license plate lamps on recent builds are now LED.�
Sep 18, 2015
razumny It would be awesome if it did. I guess I'll see if that's true come late December/early January...�
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