Jan 23, 2015
Phil Seastrand Why does Bonnie always have to bring facts to light that squashes our wishful thinking? ?
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Jan 23, 2015
bonnie Bad habit. I'm working on it.�
Jan 23, 2015
NigelM Folks need to realize that the chances of stumbling over a telling piece of inside information are about as good as really stumbling on a pot of gold at the end of a rainbow. Most employees don't get knowledge of this type of stuff more than 24hrs in advance so they don't have to lie to us all; those in the know don't tell because the boss likes to announce these things himself. Friends of friends, brother-in-laws-sisters-wife, assorted strangers and acquaintances all have no better idea of the real date than any of us can guess at. Sorry.�
Jan 23, 2015
bonnie ^^. Additionally, "those in the know" get into the positions they have by knowing better than to share information that they're not supposed to share.�
Jan 24, 2015
Trev Page Loose lips sinks ships as they used to say during the war. Tesla uses at lot of things from Apple's playbook: announce things when you're ready and always at your own events in order to maximize media exposure�
Jan 24, 2015
markb1 There are plenty of examples of Tesla announcing things way before they are ready. Model X (in early prototype form) was one. Also CHAdeMO adapter, battery swap, center console... you get the idea. Perhaps they are trying to be better about this, but they certainly haven't been in the past.�
Jan 24, 2015
Adolphus Based on S launch party (I assume there was one), are those with X reservations likely to be invited?�
Jan 24, 2015
ohmman Heh. I think the comment meant to announce when they're ready... for the announcement. Not so much when the product is ready. I definitely think they're working on how communication and timing go together. Elon made a comment about his issue with timing recently. I foresee that getting better as the company matures.�
Jan 24, 2015
TEG Yes, and yes...�
Jan 24, 2015
NigelM There was a Model S party/event with test rides in beta cars BUT the reservation list was much shorter than that of the X. Assuming that Tesla starts at reservation #1 the number of folks receiving invites will depend on capacity and how many acceptances they get. There are currently ~24,000 tallied reservations and previous calculations indicate there might be an assumed >15% drop out rate so that still suggests there are a potential ~20,000 live reservations; Tesla couldn't manage a single hands-on event with 40,000 people (think reservation holders plus S.O.) so it's likely that if a launch party takes place* then it'll fill up with the earliest reservation numbers first, unless Tesla decides to do a multi-day event.
*We're all assuming that an event will take place but it's not guaranteed.�
Jan 24, 2015
roblab Burning Man drew 66,000 people. Then they went away. The desert is still there, and this is the best time of year. Hmmmmmm. Potential.�
Jan 24, 2015
bonnie Now THAT would be an event.�
Jan 24, 2015
aronth5 This probably sums up what many are thinking:smile:
And no, this didn't come from a fortune cookie!
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Jan 24, 2015
napabill That's what I want to do. Take my cherry MS to a lakebed to get coated with 3" of fine silt. Pass.�
Jan 24, 2015
TSLAopt I have a strong hunch that the X reveal will be almost exactly 6 months after their D launch party. Just seems to make most sense to me for a lot of reasons�
Jan 24, 2015
Trev Page Perhaps they are learning. I think the D introduction was a good example. They said deliveries would start in December and they delivered on that, quite well it seems judging by the amount of Ds on the road right now�
Jan 25, 2015
NigelM A few reasons why there may not be a X reveal party at all:
- They already had a launch party
- There's too many reservation holders already
- All the people who can't make it will feel frustrated
- All those who don't get invited will be ticked off
- A number of us would burn a ton of fossil fuel flying in
- It's expensive
- It's a management distraction
- None of us will cancel if they don't hold a party
- A press release with photos will give us something to happily chew on
- We'll all be delirious if they just put up the design studio
Why put on an expensive, time-consuming party when everyone already wants your product anyway?�
Jan 25, 2015
tenstringer009 I think this could be a time for them to shift and do more region-based parties. That way they could have a couple very large parties (SF, LA, NY, Europe) and max those out at a reasonable number. For other, less populated areas, have the various galleries/service centers host. Then, have a live-stream going from wherever the actual reveal is to all the various party locations. Still not easy by any means, but at least it'll keep the attendees at a more reasonable number per location, people don't have to fly around to get to the event, and hopefully they can satisfy more reservation holders than if they just had one big one.
Of course, Signature reservation holders (no matter where they live) should be invited to wherever the main event is and be given a noticeably more special experience (first ones to drive it, etc.).�
Jan 25, 2015
ecarfan Nigel, I agree that those are all good reasons for not holding an X launch event. But I still think Tesla will do it because the production version of the X is clearly going to be much better than the earlier prototype version we have seen to date (the white X) based on Elon repeatedly stating it will be, and that will attract significant media coverage which will be a positive for Tesla.
And revealing the final production-ready version of the X will simply make us all feel a lot better, even those like me who have no intention of ordering an X but as a TSLA shareholder would like to see the stock start rising again.�
Jan 25, 2015
gg_got_a_tesla A party will happen for sure; that's just Elon's style - he's a bit of a showman. Yes, it'll generate tons of "free" publicity and awareness for people who haven't paid attention thus far. Will help with the stock price too.
Agree with some of Nigel's points though; it's going to be a very tricky business to come up with a list of invitees and such a party is not "green", all things considered.�
Jan 25, 2015
bonnie Party at my house. Bring beer.�
Jan 25, 2015
adiggs
I have this picture of Nigel baiting the bear, and wondering what will happen�
Jan 25, 2015
timf Elon did say that they would have a big event to reveal the Model X when speaking at NAIAS, so I'd virtually count on it.�
Jan 25, 2015
AlMc Not that I don't want to hang with my TMC friends at your house BUT.......will there be a beta X to test drive?�
Jan 25, 2015
bonnie If there is a beta X here AND Tesla does not have a party ... yes. (But I think they'll have a party.)�
Jan 25, 2015
AnOutsider I agree. Good reasons Nigel, but you can come up for good reasons not to do a lot of things (like the D reveal). Plus taking everything in on what we know of Tesla and what just feels right, I'd bet money there will be a reveal event.�
Jan 25, 2015
Cattledog I hopped on this bandwagon many months ago - sort of a rolling New Year's Eve party around the globe. Forgetting logistics, if they could get a couple of Model Xs to regional parties and reveal them all across 24 hours (say all the US at the same time and then follow around the globe) that would be the bomb.�
Jan 25, 2015
hobbes I know how we can make the rumor come true and have a lot of fun at the same time...�
Jan 25, 2015
Supercharged I personally do not like the look of the Model X. It looks too much like an ordinary KIA Sorrento etc.
Does not stand out, except for the Falcon Wing doors.
And part of the reason is just that, the Falcon Wing doors. They are fine in Southern California, Southern Arizona and Florida, but everywhere else, where there is ice and snow, could be major issues with ice crunching in between the seams.
I think there is a good chance it might come out with ordinary doors only, which would be a major disappointment for most.�
Jan 25, 2015
Tyl I was told yesterday that the Model X will not have the same front as in the pictures of the Model X. The nose cone is gone! The overall look is sharper and very awesome! We'll see?
I hope the information shared with me is correct! I predicted we will see the Model X for the first time on April 15th 2015....... to soften Tax Day! My source laughed!�
Jan 25, 2015
ItsNotAboutTheMoney I note you didn't say anything about not having a beta X there, which can only mean 1 thing: Bonnie has or will have a beta X!
(Logical fallacies be damned!)�
Jan 25, 2015
AnxietyRanger I think what, if anything, we have learned from the numerous Apple leaks is that the moment you start including support acts into a product development, manufacturing and launch cycle, the chances of leaks increase exponentially. In the case of Apple, this weak link has often been floor-level employees of Asian manufacturing partners. Apple is air tight, but it doesn't help when someone else in China isn't.
Once the progress is witnessed by people who are not high up, who do not have such a large vested interest in keeping the secret - on the contrary, may have an interest in the opposite (be it monetary leaks to some news outlet or just plain old gossiping) - things start unraveling far more easily.
For example, it wouldn't be completely unfathomable a product unveil could be leaked by someone involved in the preparations for the event itself. Say, someone from a printers who sees a poster or an invitation, or a caterer who gets catering specs and makes an educated guess. Such leaks, of course, by nature would be far less reliable than an unlikely leak from high-up as it is more prone to misunderstanding or being misinformed.
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Jan 25, 2015
bonnie I think I already tipped my hand on this one ...�
Jan 25, 2015
Krugerrand I imagine they'll have tested it/will test it for winter scenarios. And no, it will not come with ordinary doors. Elon has already stated publically that the Model X comes with the falcon wing doors.�
Jan 25, 2015
AnxietyRanger I'm sure they test, but I must say Model S isn't all that winter-friendly. The charge port freezes shut easily, as do the frameless windows making closing doors precarious, the door handles don't retract if ice manages to form on top of them which isn't too hard, and the folding mirrors sitting on a "platform" means ice can form on both sides of the platform while the mirror is folded in, locking it in place during the night - forcing it open isn't as nice as on some competitors either, because the areas hitting the ice are painted or metal and not dark plastic as often the case. The trunk gathers snow and ice in the seams quite a bit and so forth.
None of these are EV related issues, but they are practical considerations. Let's hope Tesla has learned lessons for the Model X.�
Jan 25, 2015
Krugerrand I'm sure they've collected data from Model S ownership and applied that knowledge accordingly to the Model X.�
Jan 25, 2015
AnxietyRanger Of course. Also, let's hope there is a Model X beta or two doing the rounds in Canadian winter wilderness.�
Jan 25, 2015
Trev Page Apple itself is able to keep secrets just fine. It's the suppliers that can't control leaks coming from employees trying to make a few bucks.�
Jan 25, 2015
AnxietyRanger But that's, really, the point. It doesn't matter where the leak comes, if it comes. A Tesla leak doesn't necessarily come from Tesla itself.
In fact, just a short while ago some Model X CAD drawings made it out here (quickly pulled by Tesla demand) that were widely assumed to come from a third-party accessory maker due to their nature.
It may not always be for bucks either (although in the Apple/China case it may well be), the reason may be the same as for gossiping in general. People tend to feel important for a moment when they have something to share.
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Jan 26, 2015
NigelM Regional parties would be fantastic but that would just massively multiply costs and logistics. Did you miss all of the failed past attempts at live streaming? I'm sure folks would be more excited to see an online design studio than attend a local party with live stream from a different time zone.
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Stock will jump and we will all rejoice if there's a press release with photos (and design studio will send us all into raptures); no need for a costly party for thousands of people.
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Elon like to surprise and do things differently. It would be more of a surprise just to spring it on us without a party. The free press and publicity would come just by inviting 10 journalists for a coffee and a test drive.
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Wouldnt be the first time that Elon got carried away and mis-spoke. Besides, could also be a big press event with 50 journos.
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The D was a surprise and didn't have a 20,000 person wait list. Model X isn't a surprise, it was revealed already; from here on out its just about the details.
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Not necessarily good news for shareholders. That's a lot of cost right there. We're all desperate for a tidbit so there's no need for Tesla to offer up a four course meal.�
Jan 26, 2015
AlMc As a reservation holder (like many here)I am good with 'party/no party/multiple parties' as long as it is 'soon'. As a stock holder (also like many here) an announcement that the 'design studio' is open is enough for me.�
Jan 26, 2015
Rheazombi literally just dealt with nearly every single thing you just mentioned while in rural Maine for several days during a snow storm and zero degree weather. None of them really bothered me. The main thing I cared about was how well it handled in the snow which was awesome. The heated seats were also much appreciated.
Some de-icing spray goes a long way.�
Jan 26, 2015
Krugerrand That's usually in the 'winter' kit anyway, isn't it? Along with the kitty litter, chocolate/granola bars, extra gloves, blanket, portable shovel, etc... We usually carry around fuel conditioner as well, which is certainly not a requirement with the Model S. :smile:�
Jan 26, 2015
bonnie Sounds like the Colorado winter kit - except I'm confused by the granola bars. Doesn't that take up some of the room you'd normally have reserved for the chocolate?�
Jan 26, 2015
PlanB Why would they do a launch party so soon when the X isn't being delivered until 2016?�
Jan 26, 2015
AnOutsider For NEW reservations. Current reservations are *expected* to begin delivery this summer.�
Jan 26, 2015
bonnie Are you new here?�
Jan 26, 2015
PlanB Ahhh.....but does anyone really believe that is going to happen?�
Jan 26, 2015
bonnie Yes.�
Jan 26, 2015
AnOutsider I'm not sure of the actual time frame, but if I had to go with my gut, it's that the X is mostly ready and they're maybe just being cautious at this point (doing more tests, making tweaks etc) to insure the shipped product is as good as they can get it without delaying it another year.
I wouldn't be surprised to see significant deliveries slip to say Septemberish though.�
Jan 26, 2015
Nubo Yes, if September comes to mind when you think "Summer". :wink:
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+1. I'd love for there to be an event at the factory, since we're nearby. But all I'm really looking for at this point is a useable timeline and a design studio to tide us over and to use for planning.�
Jan 26, 2015
NigelM Exactly. I think that's what we all really want; Tesla management's time, effort and budget might be better focussed on getting us to that point rather than trying to organize a giant event.�
Jan 26, 2015
CmdrThor Summer goes until September 22, so I wouldn't be surprised at all for deliveries to begin late August, early September. That wouldn't be considered a delay based on what has been publicly said recently (Summer 2015, Q3 2015 ..)�
Jan 26, 2015
Blastphemy No. Our local Tesla store in the mall told us that deliveries of anything other than Signatures are "extremely unlikely" in 2015.�
Jan 26, 2015
bonnie So 1) that would mean that X would begin deliveries in 2015, and 2) it's extremely unlikely that stores have any information we don't have at this point.
It's been demonstrated repeatedly on this forum that well-meaning employees at the stores do not know material information (nor should they). And if they DID have material information, they would then have no business casually sharing it.
I expect to get my X this year.�
Jan 26, 2015
30seconds summer in San francisico basically runs from late Aug through mid October. Summer in Fremont & however begins in July. Weather wise not calendar�
Jan 26, 2015
CmdrThor They also want to sell you a Model S now, and rightfully so. That's the car Tesla can sell today. Tesla store employees aren't nearly as shady as car dealership employees, but they are still a business trying to sell the cars they have now.
The next meaningful update will either be an announcement of a Model X event where the production beta and design studio would likely be revealed, or the 2014 Q4 financial results shareholder letter (sometime in February).�
Jan 26, 2015
Nubo I agree. I just think it's humorous. When the public thinks of Summer, they think June, July, August and fun at the beach. When manufacturers announce a Summer launch, they are dreaming of the Autumnal Equinox, wool sweaters and falling leaves. :tongue:�
Jan 26, 2015
Pollux Not to mention the rear camera quickly filming over with snow, rain, road muck. I would've thought that even in California these problems would be both obvious and serious but I've never heard anything attributed to Tesla about the need to keep the sensors operating in adverse conditions. Everything I've read so far about the D suggests that this problem persists in spades, across the new D sensors and the software that depends on them.
Alan
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Jan 26, 2015
Merrill Depending upon how many Model X vehicles they can build per month, let's say 2000 and if they do not start delivers until September then I probably will not get mine until next year. Bummer!�
Jan 27, 2015
AnxietyRanger I agree, for a RWD, the Model S moves on snow and ice better than average. The drivetrain is better than average in this regard, tons of linear torque certainly help. (And, I'm sure, D is great.) On the flipside, the design of the car, as far as snow and ice issues go, is worse than some of Tesla's high-end competition in my experience. Freezing charge port is the worst, for obvious reasons but also because it probably would have been the easiest to fix - perhaps the new ports in the latest cars already are. I've never suffered from a frozen ICE gas tank cover the way I have been inconvenienced by Tesla's charge port freezing shut even in mild weather without obvious snow/ice, if there is some wetness and freezing involved. The trick to push rear of the hinge while unlocking the port at the same time helps and 6.1 with keyfob release is great there.
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De-icing the Model S charge port doesn't seem to be very easy, because it is the magnet that seems to freeze shut and it is not visible. External ice or ice in the seals is easier, of course. I hear someone managed to unhinge the entire magnet from the cover when trying to open a frozen port. The best trick I've found, as said in my previous post, is applying moderate but steady pressure on the rear of the charge port door, behind its hinge, while at the same time opening the port from the Tesla app or now in 6.1 the keyfob (UMC button seems too unreliable for this trick). This allows the pressure to break away the ice, the moment the magnet is released. If it doesn't work, one has to re-try again because the magnet re-engages quickly.
The charge port seems most prone to freezing shut when the weather hovers near freezing to freezing, when there is more wetness involved. At dry, significantly below freezing temperatures it is clearly less of an issue.
De-icing may help with other parts, of course, but I would prefer design that would avoid such issues better. I've brought out a hairdryer on a few occasions, never done that before with any other car, let alone to get that car filled up.�
Jan 27, 2015
Rheazombi
It would be pretty neat if the winter package came with self-heating door handles, chargeport, and defrosting side windows.
+ Some way to clean off the camera (not sure how this would work)
FWIW: When my chargeport gets stuck, this tool comes in really handy: Amazon.com : Car Audio Dash Removal Plastic Pry Tool Yellow - 2 Piece : Vehicle Audio Car Mounts : Car Electronics�
Jan 27, 2015
Blastphemy I hope you're right, but I anticipate getting mine in early 2016 despite having a reservation below 5,100. My guess is that Tesla will deliver the first 10 Signatures in 2015 and then everyone will have to wait until 2016.�
Jan 27, 2015
bonnie Then I'll get mine this year�
Jan 27, 2015
NigelM More than 313 I hope!�
Jan 27, 2015
lodenthal I sure hope you all are correct. With a sequence number in the low 8,000s, I am anticipating 2016. I am so glad to have the Model S to keep me company in the meantime.�
Jan 27, 2015
timf As long as Tesla continues to reiterate Summer/Q3 deliveries, I fully expect all the U.S. Signatures and several thousand production models to be delivered in 2015. It certainly sounds like the production line will be in place as long as no testing issues hold up the release. Even if they push back to Fall, I'd still expect all U.S. Signatures to be delivered this year.�
Jan 27, 2015
adiggs This is about what I'm expecting to play out this year. If there is a 3 month lead time (totally making that up) between Design Studio going live and first shipments, then we might just soon be replacing this rumor thread with fun threads like "Insurance for your Model X" and "Financing Deals for your Model X" - those are threads I want to be participating in. (Yeah yeah - they'll be duplicates of the Model S versions, but it's the intent that matters).�
Jan 27, 2015
Merrill Well if they start deliveries in September and only produce 300 a month then they would deliver all the Sig's by the end of year. I really hope they can produce more than 300 Model X vehicles a month.�
Jan 27, 2015
felixtb I don't expect to get mine until 2016... then again I'm in europe.�
Jan 27, 2015
jeffgel I noticed that they brought down the Model X Website, reducing it to a single landing page... Is this in anticipation of revealing pricing?�
Jan 27, 2015
bonnie Discussion about the website changes over here: Model X Subsite Updates - Page 13�
Jan 28, 2015
ohmman I'm in the same range, and anticipating the same timeframe. I'm disappointed to have a depreciating Honda Odyssey sitting in the garage barely being driven, though. I've considered selling it a number of times while I wait, but it comes in handy on occasion. Not without a bunch of gagging and eye-rolling from both me and my wife (and two kids), though...�
Jan 28, 2015
FlasherZ I'm offering an over/under of September 30 on S744.�
Jan 29, 2015
mzpolo I got a dollar on the under�
Jan 29, 2015
FlasherZ I'm hoping, and I'd love to pay that bet.�
Jan 30, 2015
timf Given the beta making an appearance at long last, I've rethought my expected timetable and have come up with the following Model X release schedule.
Early/Mid April - Production Reveal
This allows Tesla all of Q1 to sell Model S without the distraction of Model X looming on the horizon. The P85D was revealed shortly after the end of a quarter, so this seems like a timing Tesla is comfortable with. With the amount of work they did to camouflage the beta, they can comfortably test in public for a couple more months without needing to do a full reveal.
Early/Mid May - Design Studio Release
Timed to coincide with the Q1 earnings release and conference call, Tesla announces this milestone in Model X development as a further sign it remains on schedule.
Early/Mid August - Production Begins
After several months of testing their production line, the first customer ordered Model Xes roll down the production line. Production starts out at about 100 units the first week and adds an additional 100 units each week over the course of a month so that all 1,200 U.S. Signatures are built by the end of Q3.
September - Signature Deliveries
Customer deliveries start around Labor Day and a push is made to get as many of the U.S. Signatures as possible delivered by the end of September.
October-December - Production Continues
Over the last 3 months of the year, Model X production gradually increases from 500 to 1000 units a week. LHD European Signatures are built for delivery by the end of 2015, but the bulk of the remaining units are U.S. production models. Approximately 8,000 U.S. production units are built and delivered by the end of 2015.
I admit the production numbers may sound a bit aggressive to some, but Tesla has indicated they will be ramping up much faster with Model X than they did with Model S. Between their desire to reach an annualized production rate of 100,000 units by the end of 2015 and the backlog of higher valued Model X orders to work through, these numbers seem reasonable to me.�
Jan 30, 2015
NigelM [My bold for emphasis] That seems like a contradiction to me. A production reveal is ready for production (with associated leadtimes on materials and tooling etc) so shouldn't need significant testing.
BTW, Signatures are North American not just U.S.�
Jan 30, 2015
timf It's not a contradiction, it's how every other automaker handles releases. Take the Volt for instance. We've seen camoed Volts running around since last summer. They finally revealed the production model at NAIAS a couple weeks ago, but still kept exact pricing and ordering details under wraps. Regular production does not begin until July, but now that it's been unveiled they can parade it around and run their test fleet and factory openly.
Granted, Tesla is not like other car companies so there's no reason they have to follow a similar pattern, but there's no reason not to expect a big reveal several months in advance of production. The point is unlike the Model S beta which was fully revealed early in the test process, the Model X beta will likely remain more concealed until farther along in the testing process.
And yes, I did not mean to neglect the Canadian Signatures. They do have their own reservation sequencing, but will likely be built on a similar schedule to the U.S. Signatures prior to any European models.�
Jan 30, 2015
NigelM I hear you, and to be clear, I've said before I think Q2 is when we'll see things but I suspect that the X is close to final and won't need much more testing.
(Did you mean the Bolt not Volt?)�
Jan 30, 2015
Merrill Do you really think that they would have the design studio in May and I could finalize by the end of May but not take possession of my Model X until January 2016.�
Jan 30, 2015
timf I do mean the Volt as I said. The Bolt is still nothing more than a concept so it hasn't gone through the test process yet.
No, you won't be able to finalize your order until your reservation number is called. Only Signatures would be allowed to at first, then everyone else would be let in over several months based on reservation number. This all assuming it works the same as the Model S.�
Jan 30, 2015
FlasherZ *whistle* from Facebook:
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Jan 30, 2015
AlMc Do you know this individual? A Founder or Sig holder? Thanks�
Jan 30, 2015
FlasherZ No. Just a post in the FB group. Others have asked his reservation #. He said he would post it tomorrow.�
Jan 30, 2015
bonnie He's not Sig #1 or #2 ... and I haven't gotten a phone call. If he was a Founder, he'd not be sharing information publicly (and he'd know he was a Founder Series).
My guess? Whoever called him wants to talk him into a Model S.�
Jan 30, 2015
FlasherZ I'll feed information to here if the thread reveals anything. What was interesting was the "delivery June" comment. :shrug:�
Jan 30, 2015
bonnie How many people have come here all excited because they learned something from their local store/service center? June delivery? Nope.
(And I'd love to be proven wrong. Because I'd like my X. But there's a certain level of reality I need to keep in my life. "June delivery" just throws it all out of whack.)�
Jan 31, 2015
FlasherZ The response says he was told delivery early Q3. So the Sept 30 over/under still stands.�
Jan 31, 2015
timf Apparently he didn't realize Q3 starts in July, not June. It's good for them to be shooting for beginning of quarter though. That way they might actually make end of quarter.�
Jan 31, 2015
TEG Don't know his status, but I think it is this guy from Las Vegas:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/dtsteele
Dan Steele (@dtsteele) | Twitter
Dan Steele - AngelList
Tesla Model S Achieves Best Safety Rating of Any Car Ever Tested Tracky
Tesla CEO expects feds to clear Model S in fires Tracky�
Jan 31, 2015
mulder1231 Also be aware that someone might be purposely start rumors, to get everyone excited prior to earning release so people make bets and drive stock price up in anticipation... and get hammered afterwards when the rumor turns out falls. I'm not saying this guy did this, but it is a strategy by some bears that has worked in the past.
I don't short the stock, ever. So for me, I always prefer to go into an ER with lowered expectations.�
Jan 31, 2015
bonnie It's this guy: https://www.facebook.com/dansteelesfl?fref=ts&ref=br_tf
Profile photo matches the photo of his post in the group.
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For what it's worth, I think you're all giving far too much importance to this guy's post about his delivery. Think about it. How many people have come onto the forum and announced the delivery of the X would be "soon| start next month | some other date"? Right. He's another one. He didn't even know his reservation number, said he'd post the next day. Anyone here NOT know their reservation number? No? Did he post it? Not yet.
I guarantee that when Tesla calls to talk to me about my reservation, it will not require going into the store first to talk with a delivery specialist. Why would they have done that with him?
I'm sure he has an X on order, not saying that. Just saying that sometimes our need for information causes us to park reality. If he was a Founder Series, he would know better than to jump the gun and announce before Tesla does.
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Jan 31, 2015
jpreiner I'm Canadian model X reservation holder #32, and for what it's worth I've not received any notification.
J.Preiner�
Feb 1, 2015
EchoDelta There something about your patience that I admire.
I'm sad this thread turned around from its previous course so I'll add for good old times' sake:
Model X soon aloft
crescendo speculation roars
expect wood panels�
Feb 1, 2015
FlasherZ I didn't place much importance on it. At this point, it comes when it comes - I was just sharing it.�
Feb 1, 2015
bonnie Hahahahaha @ 'just sharing it'. I'm sure your face looking totally innocent when you typed that, too.
You don't fool me.�
Feb 1, 2015
FlasherZ That's my story, and I'm stickin' to it!
I can't say I wasn't a bit more hopeful that others, too, were being contacted. We're all hoping to see more news appear. You have the distinction of being one of the first and of course you'd be the first person I'd trust when it comes to news on the X. But hey -- sticking to it here -- "just sharing".�
Feb 4, 2015
Nubo There once was a car so shy
that nearly three years went by.
The crowd needed pampering
so Elon sent scampering
something to catch their eye.�
Feb 4, 2015
pthill65 "This car," said he, "is Model X.
It's the very last letter in S3X.
With it's Falcon Wings,
And wood panelings,
I expects you're all writing out checks!"�
Feb 5, 2015
anticitizen13.7 Tesla usually gives 1 week notice for big events, and today is February 5, so if no invites go out today, I think it's safe to say no Model X party by February 12.�
Feb 5, 2015
Cattledog Good point. Would be a great 1-2 with earnings call 2/11 and reveal 2/12 though!�
Feb 5, 2015
NigelM Reveal will be in Q2. Anyone want to bet with me? :smile:�
Feb 5, 2015
AlMc But when will the 'reveal date' of the reveal be released?:biggrin: That is the real question:wink:
My hope/bet is the reveal date is revealed on the CC for ERQ4, so Feb 11th. I already owe you at least a six pack already on former lost bets so not sure what I can afford�
Feb 5, 2015
ItsNotAboutTheMoney May he meant that. Or the revwal of the reveal of the reveal.�
Feb 5, 2015
Cattledog Depends how you define reveal.
Public reveal? No thanks, 50/50 bet and I'd rather invest in TSLA.
Private reveal? I bet some people on this forum have already seen it.�
Feb 5, 2015
NigelM That won't happen, at least not a specific date. I've said April/May (Q2 is a safer bet) for some time and although Tesla might confirm their timeframe I doubt they'll give specifics that far out.
Someone else already owes me cash and another person has to write poetry about my forecasting talents after losing bets. I'm on a roll baby! :-D�
Feb 11, 2015
Clprenz Dreams Crushed.... You'll see it at delivery folks�
Feb 11, 2015
flankspeed8 I think they are going to have to walk that statement back. How in the heck will they get people to plunk down 100k for a vehicle that has not been seen?�
Feb 11, 2015
AnOutsider i'm actually OK with this. i'd made peace with no launch party�
Feb 11, 2015
AlMc Yes. Me too. As much as I wanted to pay back some of my losing bets to a couple of the mods (who shall remain nameless) at the reveal I am OK with saving TM time and money by foregoing the event.�
Feb 11, 2015
Rheazombi well some pretty revealing photos are making their way around reddit/imgur at the moment....�
Feb 11, 2015
bonnie Those people have already plunked down $40k. And you forget the first Model S Signature deliveries were to people who had not yet driven a Model S.�
Feb 11, 2015
EarlyAdopter That's not at all what I heard on the conference call. I heard that there are some cool features that they won't be revealing until the Model X ships, not that they won't be revealing the Model X itself until it ships. That would make no sense.�
Feb 11, 2015
bonnie Agreed. I heard the discussion and just thought, 'Cool, there will be some surprise features when I take delivery'. I didn't hear anything that would lead me to believe that I wouldn't see the Model X before picking options, etc.�
Feb 11, 2015
NigelM Now AlMc?�
Feb 11, 2015
ecarfan No they won't. They have almost 20,000 people who have put down a deposit on a car they have not seen in final form or driven. Those people are going to take the car sight unseen. That is many ,onthe worth of production. Tesla will show all the details of the X on the day they deliver the first X. On that day everyone will know all about the car and many more orders will be placed.�
Feb 11, 2015
andrewket I won't be buying one until my wife can take a test drive. She is on the petite side and in some cars she cannot see very well because of the B-pillar, or the seats will not adjust sufficiently, etc. It would be nice if the X has adjustable pedals.�
Feb 11, 2015
goneskiian +1
As is my wife. We'll be test driving before buying. Hopefully there's time between initial deliveries and when we need to finalize. Reservation # just under 4000 for us.�
Feb 12, 2015
FlasherZ I signed my MVPA before the test drive event. I'll do it again in a heartbeat.�
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