Nov 5, 2012
gg_got_a_tesla Saw this in the letter to shareholders:
http://files.shareholder.com/downloads/ABEA-4CW8X0/2085554337x0x611344/42cb80fa-6f64-4e48-93ff-2da29de21acc/Q3%202012%20Shareholder%20Letter%20Final.pdf
Did Tesla reach out to any early Sigs on here to try out the beta? Would one of you want to ping Tesla to find out more?�
Nov 5, 2012
clea Often participating in a beta also means signing an NDA so they may not be allowed to respond ...�
Nov 5, 2012
Arnold Panz Nope. They have executives (Founders, I suppose) trying it out now. Was told this by multiple people as I went through the delivery experience. There's no exact ETA for getting out of beta, but assuming all goes well for the execs trying it out right now, it should be ready around year-end.�
Nov 5, 2012
cinergi Probably true, but maybe some of them read the forums? We could offer suggestions in the hopes someone's reading it ... would have to base it off what we saw from the beta event at the factory ... but some feedback (even if the features already exist) is better than none!�
Nov 5, 2012
ADN_ModelS I thought the app was going to be out "later this summer" (see Charging Model S | Tesla Motors in the "check on your car section). Being in Boston, I can assure you summer is good and over. So... it should ship any moment?�
Nov 5, 2012
kevincwelch I suspect that they gave the beta to people who specifically don't read the forums! :biggrin:�
Nov 5, 2012
dsm363 I've been using it for about 2 weeks but wasn't allowed to talk about its existence. I e-mailed the beta team since Telsa themselves announced it so got the ok. I'm still not allowed to talk about what it does or post pictures but it's nice so far. Works great.�
Nov 5, 2012
cinergi Ditto. Quite literally, ditto. Pretty pleased with it!
(I wasn't kidding when I said the testers might be reading the forums :smile
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Nov 5, 2012
spatterso911 Ohhh, you guys are so very sly! Glad to hear that the program is alive and well, in good hands, and is working well. Can't wait to see the final product.�
Nov 5, 2012
ggr Us too. Only iPhone so far, and I have an Android, so my wife has been playing with it. Mostly while we were in Maryland running away from the hurricane in a rental car, she said "The BGC is at home, happy and charged".�
Nov 5, 2012
kevincwelch I don't suppose one could "accidentally" leave the app in a bar, a la iPhone 4 and Nexus 4, eh?�
Nov 5, 2012
Jason S Well... I did leave my iPhone at work tonight. But I don't have the app! :crying:�
Nov 5, 2012
gg_got_a_tesla Aha, traitors in our midst
Please stress-test the app if you can by using it when there's a lot of network traffic going on in the background (installing a bunch of app updates, downloading emails etc.) and/or when a lot of apps are suspended (in the 'tray'). Poorly-coded iPhone apps tend to crash a lot in such situations.�
Nov 5, 2012
Jason S Or use a packet manipulation program on your connection to the internet. 5% packet loss and 500ms jitter?
Oh nevermind, you are really testing its swap to flash capabilities. In that case you want to load a cr*pload (technical term) of apps on the phone then switch between them a bunch while telling the car to do stuff. Telemetry while doing that or getting notifications from the car would be a good stress test.�
Nov 6, 2012
kevincwelch Would be nice if they would design an accompanying desktop application as well (web portal?) I think a nice example of this implementation is the Sonos desktop controller and the smartphone apps (obviously this uses a proprietary mesh network, but the concept would be similar in delivery).�
Nov 6, 2012
contaygious Hope android app releases at the same time, but sounds like it is behind,�
Nov 6, 2012
kevincwelch Kind of annoying that companies rush to get out the iPhone app first given that more people have Android phones. Maybe they did some market research and going that more Tesla owners/buyers have iPhones.�
Nov 6, 2012
Doug_G The problem is that there isn't one Android platform. There are many, many different incompatible Android devices, and very few have market share approaching the iPhone. Developing and testing Android apps that work on many different devices is a challenge. Last I heard you needed to test on several dozen devices to ensure widespread compatibility.
In comparison, the iPhone has a large market share and it's pretty easy to develop an app that runs on all of them.�
Nov 6, 2012
markwj Yep. I've done this (OVMS), and the Androids have been at least three-to-five times as much effort as iOS.�
Nov 6, 2012
ClearwaterBchSteve My company develops mobile apps in the transportation space. Doug_G is absolutely correct. The Android OS is more open and flexible to developers than iOS, however this introuduces many more compatibility and stability issues because of so many different "flavors" of system versions. Those of you familiar with Android will understand what I mean by 'flavors". I work with Android, but USE an iPhone - iOS please Tesla�
Feb 1, 2013
Doug_G That's what I did this morning. I turned the heat on first. Interestingly, I was able to turn on Range mode, watch it start charging, and flip it back to Standard. Because the cabin heat was drawing a lot of power, and I was plugged into 110V, it kept right in charging in Standard even though it was almost full.�
Feb 1, 2013
zax123 Sounds to me like these are all workarounds to what should really happen which is the app or the car should explicitly have an option to warm the battery via AC before unplugging. I just hope Tesla is listening and that it's possible to do with the existing hardware.�
Feb 1, 2013
nrcooled So maybe I am the only one
Nice VA plate BTW!�
Feb 1, 2013
cinergi You're not. I'm an iPhone user and I bought an S3 so I could also beta-test (I've been a private beta-tester of both the iPhone and Android apps for some time now) on that platform. I now have two phones :smile:�
Feb 1, 2013
ElSupreme I just want to ask:
Where is the Windows Phone love? Where is the computer love.
I find it crazy that I have to do this from an Android (and soon Apple iOS) device.�
Feb 1, 2013
jhs_7645 I believe you have to buy a car.�
Feb 1, 2013
contaygious Got my map working after force closing app. Thx!�
Feb 1, 2013
FlasherZ No you don't. At the auto show I was controlling Liz's car for an hour or so.�
Feb 1, 2013
fiksegts no windoze... they should let us use the my tesla website to control it was well..
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Feb 1, 2013
dtich +1. said 72F since 11 last night. (bluestacks on mac os, car on .42)�
Feb 1, 2013
ckessel I hope they have web version at some point. I don't have a smart phone, but I could login via browser to tell my car to heat up while I'm eating breakfast or when I leave work to head out to the parking lot.�
Feb 1, 2013
FlasherZ I showed my wife the functionality of the app to update in real time and display speeds and such. I then joked it's not the marital infidelity car of choice - now she knows if I want to take the old Mustang or GTO that she should be concerned.�
Feb 1, 2013
napabill After much poking around, I finally was able to DL "Movies & TV", enter my Google info, and download the Tesla Model S app. But when launched it shows the sign-in screen in a horizontal orientation, and the sign-in areas are not active. What am I missing?�
Feb 1, 2013
dmizock Quit and restart the app�
Feb 1, 2013
napabill Figured it out. Put it into tablet mode.
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However, when in tablet mode, the screen size eliminates the top and bottom of the screen. A problem in the "Charge" screen. Can't access charging mode buttons. Also, as previously reported, the Location button crashes the app.
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Feb 1, 2013
dtich yeah, i used tablet mode to sign in for the first time, then switched back to default, which is phone sized vertical. all the buttons draw correctly that way and it's still very readable. fwiw.�
Feb 1, 2013
Hut So, did it warm up the pack and got a decent regen result this morning?�
Feb 1, 2013
Doug_G Yes, but only because I made it start charging again. I plan to evaluate whether it warms the pack or not this evening. (I forced it to start charging to warm the pack this morning.)�
Feb 1, 2013
Zas Actually, i am starting to believe that the mobile app DOES warm the battery pack. I had my car parked outside in -8C / 17F for about 6 hours.. and usually when i start my car i will have NO regen or very very little regen.... but this time i started to pre-heat my cabin for about 20 min.. and i when i started my car i had regen limited to 40kw - so i am thinking if i preheat my car long enough i should have FULL regen.
When i leave work today i will check it again.. this time i will heat it for 45 min..
Hoping other members on the forum can test this out too... but this looks promising.�
Feb 1, 2013
Hut Is your car plugged in outside / @ work? If not, I wonder how much energy is used pre-heat the cabin & possibility the pack. Will you result in a net gain or loss on the total energy consumption if you are not plugged in.�
Feb 1, 2013
Zas My car is NOT plugged in at work - thats why the pack is getting cold... not sure about the energy consumption yet, just trying to figure out if the pack is being heated firstly..�
Feb 1, 2013
Getting Amped So The answer to energy consumption question depends on whether the battery and cabin are heated independently, and whether that heating is optimized. If they were independent and optimized (minimal energy use to arrive at a common "Ready Time", and you got in your car at that time) then the energy use would be the same as if you got into a cold car with a cold battery and started driving (provided your subsequent trip was long enough to result in both the cabin and battery reaching their "warm" temperature).
So it's possible for the energy use to be the same. However, if any of my previous statements aren't true (like things stay warm too long before you get in and drive away), then you're going to use more energy preconditioning.
Let's hope version 2.0 of the app has a "Ready Time" and optimized battery and cabin preheating so we can do it without any range penalty. Right now it appears that the process is not optimized.�
Feb 1, 2013
miemrich I second the need for Windows Phones!�
Feb 1, 2013
Doug_G They are heated independently. You can tell by looking at the power consumption. If you get into the car and turn on the cabin heater, power drain goes up to 5-6 kW. If you sit there without turning the car on it stays at that level. Some time after you turn the car on, the power draw increases to 10-12 kW.�
Feb 1, 2013
Getting Amped So Thanks Doug_G. We need a Ready Time feature, where the battery and cabin heating are done in an optimum way to minimize the energy usage. If the battery takes a long time to heat up it's dumb to needlessly keep the cabin warm that long.�
Feb 1, 2013
Larry Chanin Basic question:
I've got the application running nicely on my Android phone. How do I gracefully exit the application without doing a forced stop?
Thanks.
Larry�
Feb 1, 2013
zax123 Press and hold the home button and then swipe it off the screen.�
Feb 1, 2013
mcornwell Closing out apps was necessary on older versions of Android, but most devices running 4.0 or higher don't need it IMHO.
That being said, there doesn't look to be any way to gracefully shut the app down.
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Not on all phones. On my EVO LTE, holding down the home button launches Google Now... Perhaps you mean the recent apps button?�
Feb 1, 2013
Larry Chanin Thanks for the response, but that doesn't seem to work for me.
Larry�
Feb 1, 2013
gmontem I third the need for a Windows Phone app!�
Feb 1, 2013
gaswalla This is true for most phones using custom ROMs. For most 4.0+ android phones, use the recent apps button and then swipe the app off the screen to force close. The Tesla seems to need this after it's used.�
Feb 1, 2013
kcveins Update for iPhone - still not here....�
Feb 1, 2013
Discoducky yeah, there are even more out there, include me!�
Feb 1, 2013
gg_got_a_tesla Anyone tried packet sniffing yet? Maybe, the server API being used is RESTful? It'd then be easy to build a web app, a Windows Phone app, etc. I'll try to take a stab this weekend or when I'm waiting to be vetted for jury duty on Monday�
Feb 1, 2013
PureAmps I tried last night using the BlueStacks emulator. They are using ssl to secure the traffic so you can't just use a packet sniffer. I'm planning to try mitmproxy to peek at traffic once the iPhone app is out. Unfortunately you can't set a proxy server in BlueStacks so can't test yet.
I'm mostly interested in how they have implemented security for my own peace of mind. But figuring out the API would be useful. I can think of lots of useful things to do.�
Feb 1, 2013
aronth5 Is there anyone besides me who doesn't even have a reservation but who just had to install the app on my Android last night? I showed the Tesla icon on my phone to my wife. She just shook her head and sighed. (lovingly I hope!) Oh what has this forum done to me:smile:�
Feb 1, 2013
rekoh anyone else have a Blackberry ?
I know.. I am stuck with that device for work, I hope they make the app for that too !�
Feb 1, 2013
brianman A few days ago. Dogma thread.�
Feb 1, 2013
Doug_G Temporarily.�
Feb 1, 2013
Seattle not enough windows users to make them pri 1 for the app
The top priorities for remote control are android, iphone, and the web. Anything else will be just a vanishingly small percentage. It's fine to do win ph, but there are probably as many bb users as there are w.p. Does the android app only work on 4.x android or does it work on the old version too?�
Feb 1, 2013
timdorr You can packet sniff SSL on the plain Android emulator. You simply have to add a trusted CA, which is available via a fancy UI in the settings as of 4.1 (Jelly Bean). I may whip that out tomorrow at some point. Here's the instructions on how to set it up with Fiddler: Fiddler Web Debugger - Configuring Google Nexus 7 running Android 4.1�
Feb 2, 2013
eelton Somewhat off topic, but the New York Times review of the new BlackBerry 10 was the most glowingly positive I've ever read. Also, Android apps can be easily adapted to run on it, so I expect the Tesla app will eventually be available.
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Feb 2, 2013
artsci Now that some of you have experience with this app, I'm curious to know how quickly the car responds to commands. I have OnStar for my Volt and it's dreadfully slow. Don't know how the signal processing is done via OnStar but quick is not a adjective I'd ever use to describe it.�
Feb 2, 2013
Doug_G Click-one second-two second-honk!�
Feb 2, 2013
markwj And the initial connection to the car?�
Feb 2, 2013
Blurry_Eyed Seems very fast, I'd say within a few seconds. My Nissan Leaf app can sometimes take a couple minutes to connect (if it connects at all) and refresh. The Model S app seems to refresh and control things almost instantly, great job Tesla!�
Feb 2, 2013
timdorr Yep, it's all RESTful JSON coming back. Sweet! Looks like it's a Ruby app, probably Rails, running on thin. Interesting, as I would have at least gone with unicorn, if not puma.
Everything's at portal.vn.teslamotors.com and it appears to be nested resources under /vehicles/:id. I haven't re-run the auth flow, but here's the resources I see so far:
/vehicles
/vehicles/:id/mobile_enabled
/vehicles/:id/command/charge_state
/vehicles/:id/command/climate_state
/vehicles/:id/command/vehicle_state
/vehicles/:id/command/drive_state
/vehicles/:id/command/gui_settings
/vehicles/:id/command/door_unlock
/vehicles/:id/command/door_lock
/vehicles/:id/command/honk_horn
/vehicles/:id/command/flash_lights
/vehicles/:id/command/sun_roof_control?state=vent
/vehicles/:id/command/sun_roof_control?state=close (presumably we'll get some some variable control of how open it is)
/vehicles/:id/command/charge_start
/vehicles/:id/command/charge_stop
/vehicles/:id/command/change_max_range
/vehicles/:id/command/charge_standard
/vehicles/:id/command/auto_conditioning_start
/vehicles/:id/command/auto_conditioning_stop
/vehicles/:id/command/set_temps?passenger_temp=25.0&driver_temp=25.0 (appears to be celsius temps)
Neat stuff!�
Feb 2, 2013
Doug_G Just timed it at 3 seconds. This may vary a little, of course.�
Feb 2, 2013
yobigd20 Haha I wonder how many people are honking the horns of cars still sitting at the factory. You could screw with the people putting final touches on your car lol�
Feb 2, 2013
richkae The car has a button to enable/disable app access. It defaults to disabled.�
Feb 2, 2013
yobigd20 Note to iPhone/windows owners: you could install bluestacks on your home pc then use an iPhone Remote Desktop app to remote into your home pc and control the model S.�
Feb 2, 2013
AnOutsider Very cool. I assume you'd just need to auth then, and then you're free to hit those APIs at will (and bring apps to other devices). Tesla would likely frown on it, but I'm not sure there's much locking down they can do.�
Feb 2, 2013
gg_got_a_tesla Well done, timdorr! Thanks!�
Feb 2, 2013
bbmertz Useful tip. As an alternative for iPhone users, we could just wait a few more days for it to be released by Apple... Yah, like that's going to happen, since we Tesla owners clearly don't have a lot of patience as demonstrated by the number of us checking the App Store every 10 minutes! :wink:�
Feb 2, 2013
hans Awesome. I want to curl my sunroof!
I tried my Bluetooth OBDII adapter to try and get some more detailed realtime telemetry off the car but it can't talk the 1mbps speed I suspect the canbus runs at. I might buy a more expensive one from amazon so I can return it if it doesn't work.
guys we should start a thread on home brew integration to the model s via all these avenues.�
Feb 2, 2013
Doug_G Does it Heat the Pack? CONFIRMED!
Before:
After (24 minutes later):
Conclusion: Turning on the heater via the Remote App does indeed heat up the pack!�
Feb 2, 2013
NeverEnough I don't even have my car yet and I'm checking the App Store even though all I would see is a login screen. I guess it's something to do to fill the 3-5 week wait.�
Feb 2, 2013
Doug_G Curious fact from my above experiment: I only "lost" 6 Rated Km. That would correspond to about 1.3 kWh. Doesn't seem like enough.
Speculation: The pack capacity was reading low in the first picture due to the temperature, and was more accurate in the second picture.
Conclusion: You can't draw any conclusions from my experiment about how much power was drawn from the pack. This means I can't tell you if the pack warmed up because I was drawing power from it to heat the cabin, or if it warmed up because the pack heater was running.�
Feb 2, 2013
apacheguy I think it would be neat to have the pano roof vent feature extended to the windows in a future release. For instance, all the windows in the car could be lowered half an inch. That way you would get some cross ventilation, which would passively cool the car more effectively than just opening the pano.
The app is pretty awesome, but so far I've only used it through bluestacks. It won't let me login to the app using my HP Touchpad on cyanogenmod. I'm anxiously awaiting the iOS release.�
Feb 2, 2013
ahimberg I did the same thing, except I don't have a car so I couldn't get to the commands part. working on a windowsphone app now (since I only have a VIN, my app only logs in and shows you a VIN so far, but with this info I can start geting this stuff in and test it when my car arrives)�
Feb 2, 2013
Getting Amped So @Doug_G - sorry I won't get my car for a few weeks. Can you tell from the display if you would have regen available immediately after you warmed your car up?
Thanks.�
Feb 2, 2013
hans Yes, the dotted yellow line shows how much regen is allowed when it is limited. In the before picture there is ~5 kW of regen allowed and in the after picture his car has 30 kW on regen. When the pack is fully warmed up there will be no yellow line at all (full regen).�
Feb 2, 2013
Zas Yes, i agree... i did a similar test with similar results.. but i noticed that even when i left the climate control on for 45 minutes the regen dotted line was still limited to around 40 kW.. the limitation did not go away completely - so i am thinking that the battery pack is being warmed only because it is drawing power to heat the cabin -
Doug G, your pic shows after 24 min warming the regen was limited to 30 kW.. can you try a 1 hour warming and see if you get the same results i do ? ( limited to 40 Kw )
But the problem with this kind of testing is that if you set the temp 21C.. within 20-30 minutes your cabine will hit that tempreture and turn OFF.. so for my 45 minute test, i had to keep cranking up the cabin temp.. to the point where it was 27.5C / 82F - and at that point it shuts off and wont heat any more.. at least for me..
I will try a 1 hour test myself today and see what happens.
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I was playing with this feature a lot yesterday.. continually heating / cooling my car for over 2 - 2.5 hours.. and i did not notice a more significant loss of rated kms.. i didnt check how much , but it was much more than before when i did not use this app.. but then again.. i dont think a person would use it to that extent on a daily basis�
Feb 2, 2013
Getting Amped So Thank you hans and Zas. You mentioned 30 and 40 kW; what is considered "full" regen?�
Feb 2, 2013
goaliemanshark 60kw is max regen�
Feb 2, 2013
contaygious The app takes so long to load and connect that it is useless to me right now. By the time it connects my phone goes I to standbys and I have to wake it up and start the process all over. I tried opening it and walking 5 minutes to my car and it was still loading by the time I got there so I couldn't really utilize it.�
Feb 2, 2013
aaron.s All -
Plugged my S in when I got home yesterday, car finished its standard charge by 5:30pm with 241 rated miles - I left it plugged in. This morning the cold night had reduced the rated range to 222 miles. I started heating the cabin about 30-35 minutes before I needed to leave. Just before I left I looked at the app and saw that not only was the cabin being heated, but the car started charging again (towards standard charge).
I was quite surprised.... I'm "guessing" that it noticed that as it was heating (perhaps drawing power from the pack and not the plug), that it was not "topped" off at standard charge and decided to start charging again. When I left I did have regen limited a bit - but I am guessing that was because I didn't give it enough time.
Anyone else see this behavior?
Aaron�
Feb 2, 2013
Doug_G You can't conclude that the pack heater wsn't running for a couple of reasons. First of all it is very obviously adjustable power (probably PWM). Secondly even at full power charging in cold conditions I don't get full regen when I unplug. I conclude that either the pack heater doesn't try to heat it enough for full regen, or that it cannot.�
Feb 2, 2013
cinergi I've seen that happen a couple of times. The app needed a force-restart. It should never take more than a few seconds to load. If you're having trouble with it, always try the force-restart method. (And report the trouble here so Tesla's aware of it)
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Yes I've seen the car initiate charging when I turn climate control on ... and only if the rated range is low enough.�
Feb 2, 2013
timdorr You should try killing the app and then restarting it. You can do that usually by going to the home screen (or another application), holding the home button, and dragging it off the recent apps list. That's the case for any Android 4.0 or higher phone. It may be different if you're running an older version of Android or your phone manufacturer has that feature customized.
It seems while not actively using the app, the car goes into a power/bandwidth saving mode. In that state, it may take some time for the app to respond, and it appears to be a bit finicky with how it handles that timeout. While they tweak that bit of code, you can do the kill/restart trick to hopefully have the car in an "active" state by the time you restart the app.�
Feb 2, 2013
yobigd20 i went into settings and changed the app size to tablet and fiddled with keyboard (turned off various checkboxes) and closed & restarted the app and i was able to sign in. unfortunately for me, no cars linked to my account yet. lol not surprised though.�
Feb 2, 2013
huntjo I am dying here! WTF is taking applestore so long!!??!�
Feb 2, 2013
adurstewitz I'm sure it's the volume of searches for "Tesla Model S" causing there servers to overload. :/�
Feb 2, 2013
timdorr The current average turnaround time is about 6 days: Average App Store Review Times So, give it until the end of next week before getting out the pitchforks�
Feb 2, 2013
markwj I don't see any evidence that Apple is to blame here. The approval process is pretty smooth now, and determinable.
Once approved, it is up to the developer to push the button to release the App (if and when he so chooses). The actual release process is automatic and pretty much the same between Apple and Android - they say up to 24 hours, but my experience is that from pressing the button it takes less than an hour to release to the stores.
Given the two explanations that (a) Apple is going out of their way to block your App, or (b) TM haven't hit the release button yet, I would go for the simpler one (Occam's Razor).�
Feb 2, 2013
richkae Clearly the evidence is that Apple is to blame, but there is no evidence it is malicious. They are just subjecting the Tesla app to their normal slow review process.�
Feb 2, 2013
napabill Someone posted here a while back that Apple doesn't allow "beta" versions of apps into the store. Could be a long wait, while the Droid folks test it.�
Feb 2, 2013
araxara I don't see how this is "Clear". We have not gotten any word from Tesla that they submitted the app to Apple for release AND that Apple is holding things back. If we are to believe previous hearsay, then Tesla did submitted the app to Apple, had it approved, and was waiting for the Android version to be ready before they pushed the button to release it. I'm thinking that they have found some problems after the Android beta version was released and are working to correct them.�
Feb 2, 2013
giants2001 At my factory tour last week I was told that Tesla is waiting for both android and iOS apps to be completed before releasing either one of them. He said one was already done and they were waiting for the other to be completed. They wanted to release both apps at the same time to avoid showing favoritism.
For this reason I tend to believe that Apple is causing this delay.�
Feb 2, 2013
richkae It is most likely that Tesla submitted both apps at the same time. Android does not have a review delay and Apple does.
All of the mobile app development I have been involved with builds both in parallel and the Android apps are immediately available and the iOS ones are delayed due to review.
This is the most probable scenario to me until I see evidence otherwise.
If you are waiting for the iOS version, you should hope this is the case, because if it hasn't even been submitted - the wait will be longer.�
Feb 2, 2013
Thumper Preheated the cabin before leaving this morning. App worked perfectly. Location function stopped working this afternoon and hasn't worked since. Mmmmm? Anyone else experiencing this?�
Feb 2, 2013
markwj What evidence? I have heard nothing official, just rumors.�
Feb 2, 2013
markwj Seriously? A parallel development ends on exactly the same day?
By comparison, OVMS development on the iPhone and Android started at about the same time. The iPhone version was out first. Nothing to do with Apple approval times - it just happened that iOS development was quicker in this case.
When I'm developing for iOS, I complete a working version and submit to Apple with a hold-before-release setting. I then work through the review process - which can take 5 or 6 days if clean, or longer if there are issues, until approval is obtained. From then on, it can be instantly released - and completely under my control. Updates to the App work the same way (but the approval process is much quicker and more likely to go through without issues).
I repeat: there is no evidence that the delay here is Apple's review process. It may very well be (if TM submitted it for approval late, or there were other problems during the review process) - but there is no evidence to suggest that. Given that the iPhone version has been shown running on real iPhones for 10+ months, I doubt it.�
Feb 2, 2013
FlasherZ I've been using the app for about 2 months and have been using the pre-heat religiously. In most cases, after pre-heating, if it is freezing or colder, I get into the car and regen is limited to 45 kW (compared to starting at 15 kW if I don't pre-heat).
It does appropriate pre-heating of the battery pack but handles it conservatively.�
Feb 2, 2013
timdorr Woah, let's all calm down a bit here. There's no evidence for anything. All we know is there's an Android app now and an iOS one on the way at some point. There are a multitude of reasons for why that could be, but speculation gets us no where and we should just wait for a bit before grabbing our pitchforks�
Feb 2, 2013
Zas thanks FlasherZ, I got the same result after a 2 hour pre-heat / pre-cool test... My car was parked outside in -8C temperature and I ran the climate control for 2 full hours to see what the max regen I would get, and it was the same 40 kW or so... So the battery does get heated, but to a limited amount.
during those 2 hours my rated kms went from 330km to 280km , although it was cold outside.
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I find sometimes that after you run the app, and then open it again ( as its running in the background ) it sometimes stalls on the circling loading animation...I find I have to "kill" the application and restart it, and it works fine...this happens quite frequently for me..but keep in mind, that I am playing with the app a lot as well.�
Feb 2, 2013
napabill PITCHFORKS, PITCHFORKS, PITCHFORKS!:cursing:�
Feb 2, 2013
gsxrex Don't forget the popcorn.�
Feb 2, 2013
mcornwell A few times I've opened the app, and on the Location screen, there isn't a map, but the grey charge bar, without the green charge overlay on it. If I close out the app and restart it's fine. Anyone else see this? My phone is a HTC Evo LTE running Android 4.1.1
Otherwise, the app is awesome, and blows away the OnStar app for the Volt, both in speed and functionality. I too did the horn test earlier today, and it was literally a one second delay...�
Feb 3, 2013
yobigd20 Looks like someone posted a 5 minute video on youtube going over the beta app on android.
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Feb 3, 2013
rlpm That would be cinergi, aka Ben Goodwin.
Thanks Ben!�
Feb 3, 2013
cinergi LOL I included that video earlier in this thread :smile:�
Feb 3, 2013
yobigd20 hah, sorry must have scrolled by it.�
Feb 3, 2013
JoshG I'm using it on Bluestacks... and all works well except the "Location" tab. Hitting that tab on the app while in Bluestacks crashes the Tesla app and puts me back to the Android home screen. Happening to anyone else?�
Feb 3, 2013
mlascano iPhone app is out!!!�
Feb 3, 2013
Doug_G Yay! Downloading it now!
... and here it is
Interesting that it's got my color right but my wheels wrong (summer wheels are grey).�
Feb 3, 2013
PureAmps Just installed it. It seems to honk my horn just as well as the Android version running on BlueStacks.
I'm sure we will see an official blog post tomorrow officially announcing both apps. It's pretty obvious at this point that Tesla set a release date for the app of this evening, and that the app was not stuck in Apple's review process. Not sure why they didn't release both simultaneously...�
Feb 3, 2013
dtich oh thank goodness!
iphone app is great. really smooth, responsive. (iphone 5, latest public release software). all functions work well, including location (which failed miserably on the android/bluestacks config). so happy.
(one note, my interior cabin temp seems to still be off. reads 72�F and i know it's much closer to like 60 at this moment. i wonder if this is pointing to a general sensor issue with the cabin, seeing as we (i and others) have had trouble getting the climate system to adequately maintain/sense actual temperatures... i may take a fluke temp meter out there one day soon and measure actual differences between what it says and what it is...)
yay, iphone app. which incidentally scales very nicely on ipad using the 'x2' button. not jaggy or ugly in any way, just fills the screen. excellent!
... well, another anxious (read: annoyingly impatient) new tesla owner milestone crossed. check. ?.�
Feb 3, 2013
Trnsl8r Yeah, same here. Color is right, but wheels are 21" even though I have 19". (Picture on car's dashboard is correct.)�
Feb 4, 2013
PattyChuck I would suspect it has something to do with ensuring the robustness of their system before opening the floodgates. Call it a 'soft-open', if you will. Since (according to TMC highly scientific poll done awhile ago :wink�
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