Dec 10, 2015
mpt OK, I'm in, deposit paid.�
Dec 10, 2015
dpeilow So that's 6-0 to Europe
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Dec 10, 2015
AEdennis We claim @MPT... He IS current President of Plug-in-America! [emoji4]�
Dec 10, 2015
dpeilow With that many EVs I'd be disappointed if he wasn't�
Dec 10, 2015
AEdennis What some call an EV Meetup, @MPT calls the "driveway". [emoji12]�
Dec 10, 2015
mpt EV America is in CA, everyone knows that, I'm halfway between in no-EV-land.
Seriously though, I'm the only US resident to put down a deposit... come on team USA!
{no, I really can't pull that off can I? And, I await the punishment for the first comment.}�
Dec 10, 2015
Oba Will there be a demonstration for public viewing in SoCal?�
Dec 10, 2015
dpeilow That is the plan.�
Dec 11, 2015
Oba Sounds great. Maybe at an OC meetup?�
Dec 11, 2015
AEdennis I reached out and we'll see when it is ready. I'll post if we do end up having a demo with them.�
Dec 15, 2015
dpeilow USA mounting a late comeback.
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Dec 15, 2015
dpeilow CHAdeMO on Twitter: Today we are celebrating: #chademo charge points globally cross the 10,000 mark.�
Dec 15, 2015
gregd So, the graphic brings up an interesting point... 50% of the DC fast charging is CHAdeMO, so 50% isn't. The Tesla Superchargers are far less than 50%, so there's still a lot of choice out there.
What specifically do I need to look for to know that any particular "DC Fast" charge station is CHAdeMO? There are several so-labeled in the greater area here (California Highway 680 corrider around San Ramon), but all the map says is "DC Fast Charge". Are these stations going to be compatible?�
Dec 15, 2015
Oba Any DC charge station that is not at a BMW or VW dealer will always have CHAdeMO (even if combined with CCS). There are so few CCS only stations in North America, that it would be difficult to actually find one.
I believe that this announcement from the CHAdeMO Association refers to worldwide chargers. China uses GB/T.
IEC world standards:
System A - CHAdeMO (worldwide)
System B - GB/T (China only)
System C - SAE CCS COMBO1 (US) & Menekkes CCS COMBO2 (Europe)
No IEC designation - Supercharger (Tesla only, private)�
Dec 17, 2015
ravng I am definitely in on this, as long as the work can be done somewhere I can reach with my car�
Dec 19, 2015
Stefan T I miss the Jdemo allready, on my 3 last little longer tripps i had problems to get eunght charge becase of diffrent problems with charging (chargers and ICED, fuses, and contact have dropp out from adpter) , but have fix it but it had been much easier with Jdemo�
Dec 19, 2015
dpeilow There are some RAV4s with the JdeMO upgrade already in Norway, so someone local must have the expertise to fit it.
See CHAdeMO for Tesla Roadster, Quick Charge Power JdeMO deposits | Page 6 | Speak EV - Electric Car Forums
Failing that, if a few more owners in Scandinavia sign up, I'm sure someone like Neil in the UK could come there to do the work.�
Dec 22, 2015
ravng I am currently in contact with Tony about this. Will also try to get a few more local Roadster owners onboard.
Just read in the news that they are building 150 new gouvernment sponsored chademo/combo/type-2 22kw chargespots in Norway next year, so this would really help me with the super charger envy
I can ofcourse use the type-2 22kw (basically 32A on my roadster) outlet on all the new locations, but it's to slow. If they had gone for the type 2 43kw instead (60A single for roadster) I wouldnt mind, but 32A is just irritatingly slow.
Anyway, even If I don't get a chademo upgrade I guess 32A charging spot every 30 kilometres (and 60A every 300 or so) is better than in many other countries in the world, so I cannot complain to loudly�
Jan 4, 2016
dpeilow It is now confirmed final price is $2999 plus shipping and taxes.�
Jan 5, 2016
Juanmax What about installation place? Does it take boot space away or will it be fitted next to the a power electronics cooling fan? Is the Chademo slot under the rear number plate?�
Jan 5, 2016
m0rph I will need to see more of the final installation of the product, and learn more about the installation schedule and location in Europe, before I make the payment.
I did make summer holiday plans that need a Roadster that can travel to the south of Spain in less than 24h (~2000km). So I'll need it for sure, but I won't buy it blindly.�
Jan 5, 2016
dpeilow The plan for the installation is to have the control box under the boot/trunk next to the motor cooling fan. The CHAdeMO inlet can go anywhere but they are talking about behind the rear number plate so that it normally cannot be seen.
The installation schedule is planned for June for the first batch. There is likely to be one group done just south of London. If you can get a cluster elsewhere in Europe then it is possible that we can persuade them to come to you. Otherwise, drive over to us and we will have an install party�
Jan 6, 2016
m0rph I hope it will be compatible with the "snow dam". I have my doubts here...
Well, I live in Bruges so that one I can skip
Let's wait and see if we get a detailled view of a finished installation before the end of February. Then I'm in.�
Jan 6, 2016
Habious I was thinking the same thing, but with regards to those of us who have trailer hitches installed (in that same area).�
Jan 6, 2016
Oba What is a "snow dam"? I'd love to see a picture of both the "snow dam" and trailer hitch (and how it's mounted).�
Jan 7, 2016
m0rph Snow dam:
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Jan 7, 2016
dpeilow Can you please put an arrow on the pic to point out what it is.
By the way, over on SpeakEV Tony Williams has said he plans to be in England in May to fit the first batch of JdeMO units.�
Jan 7, 2016
m0rph
I updated the picture. As you can see the space is limited there, especially on 2.5s that have the other antirollbar that goes around the motor fan. The Snow dam would also need to be cut as there is no space to run cables right now.�
Jan 10, 2016
AEdennis I'm talking with Tony and Sam C (the owner of the Roadster being used as the test bed). We're hoping to have it for the OC Meetup on the 23rd, but not sure yet.
So, get on the OC group or email list if interested as I will probably send a note there too.�
Jan 11, 2016
dpeilow That would be awesome if you can post some new information.�
Jan 16, 2016
AEdennis Got a soft commitment from the guys. They'll confirm as we get closer to the date, in the meantime, sign-up here. We also have a soft commitment from Mark Z to bring his Model X, pending a few repairs.�
Jan 16, 2016
samcarney I'm confused about the "snow dam". I have not experienced this condition? Isn't there an aluminum sheet that covers that area? The entire bottom of the Roadster is covered. How does the snow get in there?�
Jan 19, 2016
m0rph From the side and even the grills in the rear bumper. If the snowdam is not installed (as in many regions), you can see the fans and motor when you look through the wheels. Then it's completely exposed to the elements.
What you describe is just the undertray and is plastic in the back (the part that is now removed on my pictures).�
Jan 19, 2016
samcarney Thanks m0rph I see the area were the snow gets in. The "undertrays" on my 1.5 and early VIN 2.0 are metal. Maybe not aluminum but definitely NOT plastic.�
Jan 22, 2016
AEdennis Heard from TonyWilliams that Sam's JdeMO Roadster won't make it to Anaheim this weekend. Maybe next time.�
Jan 26, 2016
Oba Hi, I'm the owner of Quick Charge Power and we're offering the CHAdeMO upgrade for the Roadster now. Feel free to ask any questions.
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Jan 26, 2016
TonyWilliams Hi, I'm the R&D Manager for Quick Charge Power LLC, and we're offering the CHAdeMO upgrade for the Roadster now. Feel free to ask questions.�
Jan 27, 2016
dpeilow Hi Tony,
Good to have you here to update the Roadster community.
Are you able to give a general update on progress?
Have you managed to find a local 2.x to check the CAN messages are the same?�
Jan 27, 2016
TonyWilliams First, let me offer an overview of the project. JdeMO for the Tesla Roadster is a follow on to the successful program for the Toyota RAV4 EV. For that vehicle, we have delivered over 50 units, with almost 50 more prepaid orders.
This past week, I was involved with updating the firmware on 14 JdeMO units, all in Northern California. I was able to drive my RAV4 EV (with a range of 100 to 140 miles) that is equipped with JdeMO over 1700 miles in 6 days from San Diego to Sacramento, and return. JdeMO truly is a game changer for any car that doesn't have fast DC charging capability, like the Tesla Roadster. I did this trip entirely with fast DC charging and never once pulled out my UMC (JESLA).
Currently, there are over 10,000 CHAdeMO stations in the world. Approximately 2000 of those are in the United States, primarily on the east and west coast and around major metro areas in the middle of the country. In other words, you will still want to bring your UMC with you for coast-to-coast journeys. In Europe, the CHAdeMO stations are far more pervasive, with almost 3000 installed with much more even disbursement throughout the region. CHAdeMO is not only the largest network of chargers in the world, it is also the only one that uses the exact same plug everywhere in the world. Not even Tesla can say that.
Most public fast charge stations will allow 120 amps, therefore the Roadster will charge its 300 volt to 415 volt battery at about 45kW up to about 80% capacity. A typical charge from 20% to 80% will take approximately 40 minutes.
For the Roadster JdeMO project specifically, we performed a proof of concept charge event in December of last year, just six weeks ago with a 1.5 car. We have written software now specific for the Roadster, which was completed this past Thursday. At 11 AM today, we will be testing that new software in Orange County, California.
Contrary to early reports, we will not be installing the charge inlet in the boot / trunk. Our default location will be from behind the rear license plate, however folks who would like to place it elsewhere are welcome to do so. We just won't be involved with that type of work.
On the hardware front, we will be using most of the existing hardware that was developed for the RAV4 EV. This allows us to have an excellerated development program, which we intend to have complete by June 2016. Deliveries of production units are intended to begin this summer.
We have not tested integration with Roadster 2.0 or 2.5, however we do not expect any surprises.�
Jan 27, 2016
dpeilow Great, how did the software test go?�
Jan 27, 2016
shrink Tony,
Welcome back!
Thanks for your work on this!
Would you please post a picture of the default charge inlet location behind the rear license plate?
I'm having a hard time imagining it since the plate does not flip up like on an old car for the gas inlet. Are you modifying the plate mounting bracket in some way for access or will the inlet be below the plate and mounted on the rear diffuser?�
Jan 27, 2016
samcarney I can answer that for Tony. The charge inlet will be behind a"flip-up" license plate.
We don't have a photo yet, more details soon.�
Jan 28, 2016
m0rph "Sorry officer, I only forgot to close the charge inlet.. It was not my intention to hide my license plate. Honestly".
Besides that, I'm not happy to cut any part on my car. I have a different idea, but I first need to see the actual part (size) to know if it will work.�
Jan 28, 2016
Habious I'd be curious to see this, too. I tried installing a flip-up license plate frame on my Roadster (to allow better access to my receiver hitch) and I couldn't get it to work. The problem was that the license plate mounting holes (on the car) are right at the top, and there's no room above that for the hinge.
A flip-down plate might work in your case (but wouldn't work for me, because the receiver is below the plate...not behind it)�
Jan 28, 2016
Stefan T An other thing to consider is the size of EU licens plate are difrent from US plates�
Jan 28, 2016
dhrivnak I have a flip up license plate on my Volt to get to the receiver and it works quite well.�
Jan 28, 2016
Oba We completed a Phase 1 software test on Sam's 1.5 Roadster yesterday. There are a few issues which we will address in the coming week and retest sometime in the next week or 10 days. Also, when the Roadster showed up for testing, it was mostly fully charged. So, we didn't really have a lot of time and battery capacity to test it with. Therefore, our next test will be with the Roadster at near zero percent. We charged the car to 100% (about 215 miles) at the CHAdeMO station and ended our day of testing.One interesting tidbit that caught us by surprise was that the state of charge percent changes between range mode and normal operation. I don't know of any other car that operates this way.�
Jan 28, 2016
TonyWilliams We completed a Phase 1 software test on Sam's 1.5 Roadster yesterday. There are a few issues which we will address in the coming week and retest sometime in the next week or 10 days. Also, when the Roadster showed up for testing, it was mostly fully charged.
So, we didn't really have a lot of time and battery capacity to test it with. Therefore, our next test will be with the Roadster at near zero percent. We charged the car to 100% (about 215 miles) at the CHAdeMO station and ended our day of testing.
One interesting tidbit that caught us by surprise was that the state of charge percent changes between range mode and normal operation. I don't know of any other car that operates this way.�
Jan 28, 2016
TonyWilliams I heartily encourage you to place the charge inlet any place you feel like installing it.�
Jan 28, 2016
TonyWilliams Here are the dimensions to the charge inlet / port:�
Jan 28, 2016
TonyWilliams Here are the dimensions for the charge inlet / port:�
Jan 28, 2016
Doug_G In Standard mode the Roadster "hides" the top 10% and the bottom 10% of the pack capacity. I guess the logic is you can flip to range mode for the 10% reserve when you are pushing things. Anyway that's the reason for the weird capacity indication.�
Jan 28, 2016
Oba So, we could add a line of code to limit the charge to "100%", and then the user can select whether that 100% is a range charge or not. This solves a unique situation with this car.
We will likely include our green selection button alongside the inlet:
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Green steady = operating normally
Short blinking = reports 1/2 battery SOC% to charger (84% full battery would show 42% on the charger) - tap button to enable / disable
Longer blinking= change charge rate to 1/2 power (100 amp charger would operate at 50 amps max) - press button to enable / disable
Fast blinking - charge rate is automatically reduced due to temperature threshold (+10C to +45C is normal rate)
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By pressing sing the button for 3 seconds or more, the charger will shut down, and you can unplug.�
Jan 28, 2016
TonyWilliams So, we could add a line of code to limit the charge to "100%", and then the user can select whether that 100% is a range charge or not. This solves a unique situation with this car.
We will likely include our green selection button alongside the inlet:
***********
Green steady = operating normally
Short blinking = reports 1/2 battery SOC% to charger (84% full battery would show 42% on the charger) - tap button to enable / disable
Longer blinking= change charge rate to 1/2 power (100 amp charger would operate at 50 amps max) - press button to enable / disable
Fast blinking - charge rate is automatically reduced due to temperature threshold (+10C to +45C is normal rate)
**********
By pressing sing the button for 3 seconds or more, the charger will shut down, and you can unplug.�
Jan 30, 2016
TonyWilliams The license plate will still be visible at 45 degrees tilted up. The charge inlet needs to move out 5" to clear the 6" tall license plate, in addition to an additional 4.5" to fully expose the charge inlet. Total movement is 9.5"�
Jan 31, 2016
markwj Feel free to have a look at vehicle_teslaroadster.c in OVMS:
Open-Vehicle-Monitoring-System/vehicle_teslaroadster.c at master · openvehicles/Open-Vehicle-Monitoring-System · GitHub
In the vehicle_teslaroadster_minutestocharge() function, there are a bunch of algorithms to normalise/convert imCapacity in standard, range and performance mode (don't forget performance mode). That is indicated miles, but SOC behaves the same. Those algorithms are courtesy Tom Saxton, who is the most knowledgeable person (probably inside and outside Tesla at this point) on that subject.�
Feb 19, 2016
samcarney Somewhere in San Diego Feb 18th, 2016
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Feb 19, 2016
TEG That must be Roadster #436 :
For Sale By Owner: Roadster 1.5 Silver/beige, Factory Warranty until 5/2016, SoCal car - SOLD�
Feb 19, 2016
drees It's at the EVgo station at Black Mountain Road off Hwy 56.
Vons – Rancho Penasquitos Center | San Diego, CA | Electric Car Charging Station | PlugShare�
Feb 20, 2016
jeremyz I thought it was going to be hidden behind a flip up/down license plate. Coudl you send a picture of the chademo connector taken directly behind the car?�
Feb 20, 2016
samcarney The location of the ChaDeMO port has not been finalized. The JdeMo mounting, CAN bus wiring, and ChaDeMO port are still in the Beta prototype stage. Our objective is to get the first JdeMO Roadster on the road for some real world testing, while the final production assembly details are completed.
This charge session provided 135 ideal miles in 45 minutes. I will provide more detailed information on charge sessions, and final production versions of "JdeMO for the Roadster" as we move forward with the project.
Regards�
Feb 20, 2016
Stefan T The charging speed is near 300km/h (288 km/h) (135x1,6/.75)
That's good speed�
Feb 20, 2016
samcarney Stefan, I will provide more detailed info in future posts. I suspect that a 1 hour charging session will provide 150 miles of charge. The the amperage was beginning to decrease as the battery reached >60% (standard rate). Near the end of my 45 minute charge the amperage had decreased from 120 to 45 amps. The last 15 minutes of a 1 hour charge would bring down the 288 km/h figure.
A charge rate of 150/245 mph/kph, is quite good when compared to an HPC's 56/91 mph/kph @ 240 volts/70 amps�
Feb 20, 2016
Juanmax Looks promising. How many degrees did the battery temperature increase ?�
Feb 20, 2016
samcarney I did not record temperature for this charge session. Previous tests resulted in a 5-6 degree Celsius increase during a 30 minute session. Ambient temp was 15 C, cell temperatures never went beyond 30 C.�
Feb 25, 2016
AEdennis The guys just posted a Youtube video of them charging a 2.5 and 1.5 Roadster!
Woot!
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Feb 25, 2016
ecarfan And at 106A, no less. Impressive.�
Feb 25, 2016
Stefan T Good to see a 2.5 be chaged by Chademo charger
I'm wait for mine kit so i can charge mine from a public fast charger�
Feb 25, 2016
AEdennis Looks like the JdeMO for Roadster project is getting some press coverage - Transport Evolved - JdeMO for Roadster.�
Feb 26, 2016
gregd So, is the inlet for the 2.x models going to be to the side of the PEM, like it is in the video? They state that the 1.5's inlet was in a temporary location, but never clarified the inlet positioning for the 2.x models. I kind of don't like having the trunk lid open while charging, as I wouldn't be able to leave the car alone.�
Feb 26, 2016
AEdennis It's been discussed on the SpeakEV thread, @TonyWilliams has said that the port can be mounted anywhere and that the final locations has not been determined.
I believe the 1.5 was placed there because a lot of folks have indicated that behind the license plate with the ability to flip down is what many requested.�
Feb 26, 2016
gregd Right, and I've been following the thread there too. Just looking to see if they've made any decisions about the default location.
Note that the inlet for the 1.5 in the video wasn't behind the license plate, but rather down below. I can tell it's temporary. The 2.x, however, looked a bit like what they did for the Rav4, so the thought about it being a primary site (understanding that customers can direct otherwise) was what I was looking to clarify. My concerns with that location are two: needing to keep the trunk lid open while charging, and service access to the PEM by Tesla. We don't want Tesla to have to deal with an aftermarket gizmo while doing their regular work. It's also kind of a tight spot for cables that thick to be routed around in.�
Feb 26, 2016
Habious My biggest concern with this project is that Tesla would open the trunk, see this gizmo, and say "We're not going to work on your car until that Gizmo is removed". A less-likely (but still possible) scenario is that Tesla will look at it and say "We've decided that, since you've modified the car so far from our original design specs, we're no longer going to service your car at all. Period. Even if you undo the modifications."
As far as I know, there's nothing keeping Tesla from blacklisting a car for service, because it's been "over-modified".�
Feb 26, 2016
gregd So I did check with my local SC on this. The service manager told me that it would NOT cause a blanket refusal for them to service and support my car. Now, my car is already out of warranty, which is where the issue would be. If the car were under the original warranty, or a gizmo is attached to a component that is under warranty (including the 1 year warranty that comes with a replaced part), then it would be a source of discussion. Not a blanket "No" - they would presume the device is innocent - but if things looked like there might be an interaction of some kind, they'd likely take a step back and start talking time and materials.
My own opinion is that their stance is quite reasonable in this regard. I just want to be as out-of-the-way as possible, to be fair to them in allowing them do the work I request (e.g. yearly service). I would encourage you to have this discussion with your own SC, as this sort of thing seems to be more of a local decision than we'd perhaps expect.�
Feb 26, 2016
ecarfan And if your local service manager moves and you get a new one who does not adopt such a tolerant attitude...good luck with that. In my opinion there is a significant risk in making such a major modification to a Roadster. Every owner will have to make their own decision as to whether or not it is worth the risk, as you point out. Thanks.�
Feb 26, 2016
Habious Yup. That's my thoughts as well.
I was thinking about it from the other perspective. I'm considering the possibility of moving from the Washington, DC area to the Raleigh, NC area in the next few years. While the Tyco Rd. TSC might be OK with this (I don't know either way - haven't approached them about it), what happens if I move to Raleigh and the only TSC within driving range says "Sorry, no"?
...and, for those that say "Tesla won't do this", they already have. There are Roadsters on the road right now that Tesla has blacklisted. Damaged cars that, in Tesla's opinion, shouldn't have been repaired (but others disagreed and resurrected them). But, these cars won't ever be touched by Tesla again. Not for annual service, not for recalls, not for firmware updates. Those owners are completely on their own.
Yes, a "battery/charger modification" isn't the same thing as rebuilding a salvaged car but, it shows that such a blacklist does exist. There is a line in the sand somewhere. Cross it, and Tesla will never talk to you (or touch your car) again. Does this cross that line? I don't know. I don't think it will but, until Tesla (corporate) says (in writing) that they're OK with this, I won't be doing it...as much as I love the idea.�
Feb 26, 2016
dpeilow My service centre also said they would be ok with it.
The upgrade is very simple to disconnect: The two battery terminals in the PEM and one connection to the CAN bus diagnostic port. If there was a suspicion that it had or was causing a problem it can be isolated electrically. There are no software mods to the car. It would be churlish of Tesla to object on principle.�
Feb 27, 2016
gregd "Order" placed. I'm in!
This is a game changer for the car, and I think makes an important statement both to the EV community and to Tesla about the importance of the charging network, and the importance of access for all cars to it. Tesla understands this, obviously, with their Superchargers. But the others not so much. And for Tesla, it sets an imporant precident about the next phase of the car's life, with 3rd party improvements. Who knows, maybe the Roadster 3.5 will come with an OEM of Tony's adapter.�
Feb 27, 2016
Juanmax I'm in, but I live in Germany. I've heard of plans to have some jdemo installed in Norway by a Toyota dealership. Norway is way too far. What about UK? Which option do I have?�
Feb 27, 2016
nikwest I'm in Germany, too. There's an installation meeting planned in London. Or we might find somebody in Germany willing to do the installation.
I think installation should be pretty straightforward. The high voltage being the biggest issue.�
Feb 28, 2016
AEdennis So, I figured a way to save three of the four Periscope sessions on YT.
First session -
Continuing Session
A little extra, Model X charging CHAdeMO (and check in on the Roadster in the middle)
It was hot in Irvine, CA today, so I didn't stay until the end, but the guys were adding range.
I also met the owner of the Red 2.5 at the brunch, but he had plans after, so he did not charge with Sam and his 1.5�
Feb 28, 2016
markwj Seeing OVMS showing the charge was surreal. Do you have any better quality screen shots of what was shown? I really should talk to the developer of JdeMO to make sure OVMS is showing the best it can for this.
Or PM/eMail me the vehicleID and date/time you did this charge and I'll have a look at what we saw.�
Feb 28, 2016
AEdennis Unfortunately I was doing this as a Periscope session for he interested parties discussion at Speak EV. SamC has been testing the Beta on a 1.5 and he made a Y cable to split the signal. It was a VERY BRIGHT and warm day in Irvine...�
Feb 29, 2016
samcarney Mark, unfortunately the OVMS screen did not video well in the bright sunlight. However i can tell you that having OVMS available during my charging sessions was invaluable. The ability to monitor the pack temperature during charging definitely eliminated any concerns I had with overheating. OVMS proved the Roadster cooling system to be quite capable!�
Mar 2, 2016
ravng Does anyone have a link to the male and female diagnostic connector at digikey or similar, since it seems like we have to make Y-cables�
Mar 2, 2016
samcarney ravng you will need 2 female and 1 male connector along with the specific pins for each connector. I used Mouser Electronics there was NO Minimum order for these parts. BTW: you will only need a Y-cable if you want to connect OVMS and JdeMO to the DIAG port together.
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Mar 2, 2016
mpt Has anyone asked Mark WJ? I think he may have the cables... may...�
Mar 2, 2016
markwj No, but I'm here :biggrin: and thrilled to see the progress in this project.
We don't have those cables as standard, at the moment. I built a few myself, for my own use (primarily so I could have OVMS + a CAN logger plugged in at the same time). Two white sockets, one black plug, in a Y. But, they were kind of ugly and klunky.
An alternative is to change the OVMS cable to add a white DIAG socket next to the black plug. Slightly less klunky and would allow something else to connect.
We can get these cables made cheaply in China, and with good quality crimping (plus soldered if we want), but minimum quantity is 50.�
Mar 2, 2016
dpeilow I'd be in for one.�
Mar 3, 2016
ravng Just payed for the jdemo yesterday, and I do (ofcourse) have the ovms.
I have the tools for crimping them myself, but If you do a mass buy I will join in. I guess there is no rush�
Mar 4, 2016
nikwest I'm in too for the Y-cable.�
Mar 4, 2016
dpeilow Are you on SpeakEV? The conversation is going on there: CHAdeMO for Tesla Roadster, Quick Charge Power JdeMO deposits | Speak EV - Electric Car Forums
One other thing you might be able to help with is making the cooling fans kick in at a lower temperature.�
Mar 4, 2016
Gremlin Here's the video on the JdeMO for the roadster from a NvGO charger. Works on the original and 2.5 version.
Tesla Roadsters Charge At CHAdeMO Thanks To JdeMO - Video - Inside EVs�
Mar 7, 2016
ibcs What does the CHAdeMO connector look like when it's not plugged into the Roadster. Preferrable the one that was installed on the bumper. Any pictures.�
Mar 7, 2016
dpeilow It's not yet finalised (what you see is a development version) but the idea under consideration can be seen here: CHAdeMO for Tesla Roadster, Quick Charge Power JdeMO deposits | Page 24 | Speak EV - Electric Car Forums�
Mar 7, 2016
ibcs Thank you. The placement of the charge port is the only point holding me back at this point. Obviously, you don't want something sticking out to distract from the Roadster itself.�
Mar 31, 2016
dpeilow Don't forget that today is not only Model 3 day but also the last day for JdeMO deposits.�
Mar 31, 2016
jnordeng Done and done�
Apr 6, 2016
ibcs JdeMo order placed 4/6/16. Waiting for Roadster 3 upgrade before installation of JdeMo.�
Apr 20, 2016
ElectricLove Here are some good photos of what the "post-install" could look like:
2011 Roadster 2.5 Sport with DC Quick Charging (CHAdeMO)�
Apr 20, 2016
ibcs From that picture, the trunk must be open to charge on CHAdeMO?�
Apr 20, 2016
AEdennis It's important to note that @matt_in_ca Roadster is one of two initial JdeMO installs, and I believe that his car is in a prototype location.�
Apr 20, 2016
matt_in_ca That's correct. And I had specifically requested the port to be located in this position for I like the current, stock rear aesthetics of the car.�
Apr 20, 2016
ibcs After consideration I understand your point to not change the aesthetics of the car. It will be a hard decision when it's time for the upgrade.�
Apr 21, 2016
dpeilow We need to see the final configuration first, but I'm still in two minds about relocating it up front under the hood.�
Apr 21, 2016
dhrivnak My Volt has a flip down license plate holder to access a hitch I added. It works well and no one sees the hitch under normal operation. So behind the license plate seems to be the easiest�
Apr 21, 2016
ibcs If you have time, please show a picture of the license plate hitch sounds like an nice idea.�
Apr 22, 2016
hcsharp I don't think I'd want it up there. Too hard to run the cables.�
Apr 22, 2016
ElectricLove Running cables from front to back would be "nearly" impossible for the size needed to do this, if going to be done it should go through the side-skirt on the passenger side, there are already HV cables there for the HVAC system.
However, if anyone ever needs to use this information; There is a "low power" (few 12AWG and some 16/18AWG) wiring harness that runs from front to back along the passenger side which was (I presume) used for Lotus components, I think there are about 7 or 8 wires that simply terminate in a blank box at the front and same at the back... If you ever need to run wires from front to back you should be using this harness so it is seamless!�
Apr 24, 2016
dhrivnak Here is a shot of my Volt with the hidden hitch. It should work for the JdeMO in my humble opinion.
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Apr 25, 2016
dpeilow On US cars with the form factor of your license plate I think this will be invisible, but in other countries where they tend to be more narrow and rectangular I would like them to ensure it's out of sight when not in use.
I posted on another forum but so far without any traction: I think it would be sensible to put an external junction box on the HV lines located over the right wheeel arch, rather than drill extra holes in the PEM. I'd like to keep the PEM stock so there are no quibbles over replacements, future 3.0 upgrades or indeed removing the kit if I ever sold the car.�
Apr 25, 2016
ViperDoc At that location or another, I have ordered the JdeMO and agree that I am looking for an install that avoids drilling extra hols in the PEM for the same reason. I think it is likely I will snag that battery upgrade in the 7-10 year zone (since I pre-paid for a replacement) and don't want any issues.�
Apr 25, 2016
ElectricLove Oh, I like this HVJB (High Voltage Junction Box) idea, but that is a tight space to fix one and it should be rather robust. Does anyone know if the ChAdeMO port on the JDeMO retrofit is "always live" when the battery rails are live? In other words; are there contactors in place that isolate it during driving mode and only bring it on line when used for charging?
Those contactors could also be located in this HVJB, just like the other OEM EV are doing this type of system... An HVJB addition just makes a ton of sense to keep it safe and up to par with the industry standards for these types of things...�
Apr 26, 2016
dpeilow Be helpful if you could add your voice here CHAdeMO for Tesla Roadster, Quick Charge Power JdeMO deposits�
May 13, 2016
dpeilow FYI
Quick Charge Power on Twitter
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May 15, 2016
DrTaras I much prefer the placement below the license plate rather than opening the trunk. If something like that is what will be, Tony, then sign me up and maybe I need to pull my Roadster off the For Sale Board: 2010 Most FAMOUS Customized Tesla Roadster SPORT Out There!�
May 15, 2016
AEdennis @DrTaras I don't think @TonyWilliams spends much time around here anymore...
You might want to sign up here...
You can update your sign from Faster than a Ferrari, Greener than a Prius, to recharges on CHAdeMO�
May 15, 2016
DrTaras In the midst of doing that sign up now; thanx.
Phunny about the banner update
PS-All signed up also on CHAdeMo charging for Tesla Roadster as well as CHAdeMO for Tesla Roadster, Quick Charge Power JdeMO deposits�
May 17, 2016
dpeilow You just signed up for it in the past few days? Cool.�
Jun 28, 2016
dpeilow An update from Quick Charge Power
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