Dec 12, 2014
basf_audio 
Driving gloves FTW.
I have to say I'm a little conflicted as well as I missed out on Autopilot functionality on my new P85 by a few days (hence now traded in for my P85D) - but perhaps I'm actually going to get the heated steering wheel by a few days. Right place, right time. But I swirled a bit about missing or gaining features on both sides. In the end, I got the car that I ordered and have loved being fortunate to drive and own these cars. Would I be more thankful for better communication, choice, and transparency? Sure. But I also know that as soon as I drive this fantastic, brilliant car off the showroom - it's going to be crazy insane - and there will be one right after mine that has something slightly different for the same/more/less price than I paid. I expect that after a few more forum posts about this steering wheel (or fill in the blank) Tesla is going to simply stop innovating. <grin> And nobody is getting the heated steering wheel!(taking my ball home...)
All I know is that I'm going to be doing 0-60 launches all day long and rolling on the floor laughing as soon as my P85D gets delivered in a few weeks. OMG - it's crazy insane.�
Dec 12, 2014
ecarfan For $100 you can buy a pair of Tesla driving gloves that will still let you use the touchscreen with the gloves on.
Tesla Gear Shop s Touch Screen Leather Driving Gloves
Then pre-heat the car before getting into it in the morning and you won't miss not having a heated steering wheel.�
Dec 12, 2014
paul7200 Well said. I had a heated wheel in a previous vehicle and told myself I wasn't going to buy again without. Seeing this thread was a great Christmas present; order confirmed yesterday with Feb 2015 delivery.
Next on my list was LED headlights, and while it's likely this will come to the Model S any day now I'll have to deal with it and remind myself how fortunate I am to own such an amazing vehicle.�
Dec 12, 2014
NigelM Or move to Florida.�
Dec 12, 2014
mspohr I've never had a heated steering wheel so don't have an idea if I would like it or not. I do live in a climate where it gets cold in the winter so I can think it might be useful. However, I've had several cars with heated seats and I'm not sure I like them. They are comfortable for a few minutes but then my butt starts sweating and I turn them off.�
Dec 14, 2014
Lerxt I'm struggling to imagine what it would be like living in a place where a heated steering wheel is needed.�
Dec 14, 2014
jerry33 It would be helpful in Texas. Usually it's your hands that get cold first. (I don't bother with gloves as they typically have a one or two day lifespan before getting left somewhere.)�
Dec 14, 2014
spentan I've had it before on a couple of other cars, it's definitely more useful than heated seats because your bum/body is usually wearing something to keep warm.
However I never wore gloves, even when the climate in Canberra (Australia) was below freezing. It kept your fingers nice and warm�
Dec 14, 2014
eco5280 So - has anyone seen or gotten any official word that this is even happening??�
Dec 14, 2014
jerry33 And more importantly, is it possible to retrofit?�
Dec 14, 2014
andrewket No, it's not.�
Dec 14, 2014
gpetti I pushed back on this to find out if the NO was technical or a policy decision. I've also mentioned this in an email to Jerome so if I hear anything different I'll report back.�
Dec 18, 2014
LetsGoFast From the P85D tracking thread:
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Dec 18, 2014
eco5280 
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Dec 18, 2014
NigelM Where's the button for the heated side mirrors?
(Ducks and runs for cover...)�
Dec 18, 2014
3s-a-charm It's right beside the headlight washer button... ;-)�
Dec 18, 2014
AMP85D The heated side mirrors turn on when you press the rear defrost button.�
Dec 19, 2014
bluenation you can't call a car a truly luxurious car that competes with germany, without heated mirrors and wheel. among countless other amenities.
tesla is late, on the one hand. but is rapidly catching up.�
Dec 19, 2014
eco5280 It won't be a true luxury car until it has an umbrella hidden inside the doors.
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:wink:�
Dec 19, 2014
spentan My P85D with SubZero Package went into production today.
I'm hoping that it has the heated wheel, I loved using it when I used to live in below freezing temps, but even in SoCal, its nice for keeping your hands toasty.�
Dec 20, 2014
green1 Of course Tesla has called it a "premium" car, not a "luxury" car.
The Tesla is an amazing car in many ways, but it is not a full "luxury" car and is missing many features common on even less expensive competitors. The true revolution is in the drivetrain and user interface.
Tesla will eventually catch up I'm sure, but they do have a long way to go yet.�
Dec 20, 2014
mspohr I'm holding out for the umbrella. Not a real luxury car without the umbrella.�
Dec 20, 2014
gg_got_a_tesla I lost at the heated steering wheel roulette. Don't particularly need it in the Bay Area though except when going upto Tahoe in the winter.�
Dec 20, 2014
bluenation i lot of people here threw an aneurysm when that motortrend guy said the s class was a better car than the MS, because it wins out on luxury.
so the 'it's competing for "premium" not "luxury"' appears a battle of semantics. And besides....we would all like Tesla to slay the S class Goliath, do we not�
Dec 21, 2014
eco5280 I know most will agree with me so this preaching to the choir, but here are my thoughts:
1) The Model S is outselling the S-Class so regardless what MT says, the people are speaking.
2) I don't really see the cars competing, except on price. The MS is a technological tour-de-force that's more of a touring car (i.e. large 4-door sports car). The S-Class is a luxury tank, heavy, rigid.
3) Both cars have tricks to get to their goals. The Model S is made of aluminum, has thinner everything to let a heavy car feel like a sports car, so it's not quite the height of luxury because it needs to be light. The S-Class uses a monstrous engine to allow it to accelerate quickly, so it gets 15 mpg and needs a 7-speed transmission to get it.
4) Let's talk about economies of scale - Merc has been making cars since before Abe Vigoda's parents were born and the S-Class is in it's 11th generation. Tesla is younger than Abe Vigoda's dentures. Tesla has accomplished something magical and amazing. It will improve (and we'll all gripe) but comparing these cars is not apples to apples.�
Dec 21, 2014
spentan If anyone has any questions, I had 2 p85s this year, sold before the D announcement (made money on both after tax).
Then bought an s550 (2015 fully loaded).
Didn't really like it, sold for a p85d�
Dec 21, 2014
drsaab I see them as competing. They are the only 2 cars I considered. S550 can be tight with abc sport mode. It's quiet. Fast. More luxurious. The MS is more smooth, torquey, contemporary art, fun.
They are both top notch products for 100k .
The Mt test weighed heavily on distronic plus and now autopilot should even that out and the ms with autopilot would probably beat the s550 based on his commentary of why the editor chose one over the other.�
Dec 21, 2014
wycolo Some heating tape fed by a 3 turn clockspring of 22ga quad phone line: "Boom - Heated Steering Wheel!!"
Time as 6* of Abe Vigoda. :biggrin:
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Dec 21, 2014
zzzzdoc My direct comparison is with a long list of Lexus LS models, the latest which I still own an LS600hL hybrid.
Yes both Lexus and MB consider these cars their state-of-the-art technology platforms. Most new features that they have, if good, will filter down to conventional cars. Sometimes those features don't show up for a decade.
That being said, LS sales are down considerably this year, and Model S sales up up by similar amounts. It appears that more and more buyers are choosing the Teslas over the MB S Class and Lexus LS class cars. The Tesla's now outsell the LS, which is an amazing feat. The fact that Tesla is taking away sales from the showcase cars on two mature, well run companies that produce those great cars speaks volumes. We'll see if this calculus changes when Lexus releases their hydrogen fuel cell LS, supposedly in 2016.
When Consumer Reports tested the Lexus LS, it gave it the highest grade they had ever given a car - a 97. This is now #2, as the Tesla Model S has received a 99/100. Pretty heady stuff, and they are pretty critical in their car reviews.
One thing about owning S class MB or Lexus LS vehicles - you really do note which features Tesla should have included, which your own cars have had for years, but have been left out.
Cracked up reading the Abe Vigoda references, BTW.�
Dec 21, 2014
bluenation huh, i didnt know ms was still outselling the s class? that is wonderful to hear, if true.
anyways, i was more referring to the topic at hand: heated wheels, and similar amenities. those are musts on luxury cars. not having such a crucial winter feature means you are playing catch up.
and it appears tesla is catching up.�
Dec 22, 2014
Rockster Holy Cow!
Abe Vigoda is still alive?!?!�
Dec 22, 2014
dsm363 I've been to Tahoe a few times this winter and don't think it's needed. Simply preheat your car and the cabin is more than comfortable. No driving gloves required. Everyone is different of course and sorry you didn't get the feature. Wish Tesla would have rolled that out better.�
Dec 22, 2014
PoweredByRain I'm surprised that anyone would think that the Model S does not have heated side mirrors. You don't need particularly cold weather to have fogged-up mirrors!�
Dec 22, 2014
jerry33 That's true if you are plugged in at both ends of the trip. It's not so true if your car sits all day at work. The heated steering wheel would make the difference between running the cabin heater or not on many days.�
Dec 22, 2014
island Posted an update about my car status and also my experience this weekend with a P85D at a store in a "cold weather" state and full next gen seats installed - yet no heated steering wheel. Here is the link to my post.
#485�
Dec 23, 2014
evp Or -- $60 at Sharper Image (Xmas special; normally $80). Leather Touch Screen Gloves - Men @ Sharper Image�
Dec 25, 2014
neroden Bzzt. Wrong. The issue is that people *randomly* get something better. You can't make the decision with valid information.
This is why model years were invented. You know whether you're getting one before or after the cutoff for changes. Car companies actually avoid making noticeable changes mid-model-year... except for Tesla.
Now, there's no particular reason to have it be exactly once a year. A "version number" would do fine -- that's what the Roadster had. This is done in software as well.
But a constant trickle of visible hardware changes upsets people; "frankenstein" cars which are halfway between 2.0 and 2.5, with some of the new features and not others, which some people *randomly* get (despite having ordered either 2.0 or 2.5), annoy people.
Tesla's going to have to start using model years, or version numbers (either would work).�
Dec 25, 2014
dsm363 They don't have to. As long as what you bought is what is delivered that's the important thing. If you didn't order heated steering wheel then you shouldn't expect it. Sure, someone else may have gotten it but that doesn't impact your car or make it less functional in any way. I understand that some silk feel 'cheated' but Tesla can't really do model years. What dealerships do they have to offload thousands of cars to sit on the lot? They should simply try and be more clear about changes like this and try and make overlap as small as possible.�
Dec 25, 2014
eco5280 It really makes a difference if it's a model year change? So you buy your car Month/Day/Year and then 3 months later they switch to a new model year, and it has all sorts of razzle dazzle upgrades. You've still got a car a little bit older with less features. It's better because ... why again? I'd rather know that I have a chance of getting new unadvertised features, then always saying "maybe I should wait another year to order".�
Dec 27, 2014
grahamsimmonds No I am sorry I don't get this. We are ordering a car (P85D in my case) that is revolutionary in virtually every aspect and you worry about a heated steering wheel option? Before I read this I never even realised that you could get this feature on a car.
I appreciate a lot of you are veteran Model S owners and the magic may have worn off a bit so these things become important. I fear that distractions such as these minor features waste Tesla's time and energy from the ultimate goal of improving EVs so that they can become mainstream.�
Dec 27, 2014
jerry33 1) The magic doesn't wear off--at least it hasn't for me yet--but cold hands do remind you every time that the steering wheel doesn't heat. Yes, it's not a showstopper, but it does impact range because if you had a heated steering wheel, you'd hardly ever need to run the cabin heater.
2) People look at the sticker price and compare the Model S with other cars that have the same sticker price when they really should be comparing it with cars that have a much lower sticker price because of the battery cost included in the car.
3) ICE cars haven't changed substantially in 100 years, so the only innovations that can be done are items such as heated steering wheels. This means that cars at a very low price point have these features--at least optionally--and people, understandably, fail to see why a car costing 3x or 4x doesn't have them. It's perhaps not fair, but the world isn't fair.
4) With any high-tech purchase, if you can buy it, it's already obsolete. So folks who purchase just before the next innovation tend to get upset. There's no way to solve this problem other than to hold off on purchasing, but as innovations will never stop you could hold off forever and not get the enjoyment. It's basically a timing thing. Tesla can't publish a timeline because if they did they would be subject to the Osborne effect where no one would buy the current car because of waiting for the next one. You can see this very clearly in iPhone sales which drop dramatically in the two quarters before a release. Apple can survive that purchase cycle model--Tesla can't.�
Dec 27, 2014
gpetti Why can't they survive announcing hardware release changes?
Tesla announced the P85D in advance and survived the process. Bearing in mind they are not demand constrained and delivery time frames are still in the order of months, I don't see an immediate reason why this would be a problem (though I'm very aware that there are probably dozens of factors that I'm not aware of). To use the latest surprise feature example, while I still think that the release of a brand new car should have included the very latest feature stack from day 1, not day 14, lets say we were in a normal delivery cycle: Tesla states that as of December 8 we will have release x.x which will include a heated steering wheel feature. Owners who didn't care or who didn't have the winter package could get their cars earlier than usual, owners who did care about the feature could wait for it. It appears that there are enough differing opinions on the merit of these features that I think production would continue at a similar pace with little or no loss. I suppose what happens with conventional cars is that they end up with a bunch of cars left over that they have to "discount"; however, Tesla builds to order so this is usually not going to happen. I think they could time price increases with incremental hardware versions too which would give customers another incentive to buy before the version change.
I don't think you can use other high tech purchases to justify the Tesla model as virtually every product I can think of - provides some kind of hardware change warning. The Tesla random upgrade model is bound to cause problems for anyone who is in the "just missed the feature by a week" camp. Some people will talk about why they should accept this why it shouldn't be a big deal, and why this is the Tesla way, but human nature is such that many people will still be annoyed to find out that they randomly missed a feature by a day or a week - particularly if its a feature they were interested in.�
Dec 27, 2014
eco5280 Huh? They announced it the moment they started taking order for it, not in advance at all.�
Dec 27, 2014
tezco But then, when do you put forth the announcement? Concept stage, alpha/beta stage, yearly cycle etc? Tesla is making upgrades so much more rapidly than the established automakers that a yearly upgrade cycle seems much too slow. Tesla is even leaving the cell phone makers in the dust. It's a brave new world out there. I think they have just decided to announce whenever the upgrade is nearly ready for production. It doesn't matter when you set the date for the announcement, it's bound to give some buyers remorse. There's just no way to make it a completely pain-free process. If it really bothers you, buy a used S. Then you know that it's almost guaranteed that any new options won't work with your car. Don't worry, be happy!�
Dec 28, 2014
mrElbe "Don't worry, be happy!"
+1 here too. As long as I get what I ordered. Anything else is icing on the cake.�
Dec 29, 2014
gpetti I agree that they would need to do versions more frequently than yearly. They don't have to be huge (like the P85D). In fact the smaller they are, probably the better. Speaking personally missing a feature by a month has less sting than missing it by a week or a day (or as in the recent debacle missing it before my car has even been built). If someone has had at least a month of driving the vehicle (especially given how excited people get about getting the car) they might grumble but they are less likely to have a bitter taste in their mouth. There are a variety of ways to make this kind of thing work but admittedly I have very little knowledge of what is actually going on at Tesla and the implications of price increases/decreases, order pipeline changes etc. I don't understand your suggestion of buying a used S but its true that for purchasers of a used S they would definitely save a pile of money for whatever feature set they did get; however, saving money was not my objective. I paid big money to make the technology leap to the latest and greatest Tesla model S as of December 2014. I didn't get the car earlier than those who got the feature - in fact I would have got it later than some who got the feature, thus I re-ordered and I will get my car soon enough - likely with the feature - though still not guaranteed. I'm not worrying anymore, I took charge of my own destiny and I'm happy. That doesn't mean I don't care about the process and the way it currently works/doesn't work. I will repeat again that even if the normal process is to announce after a feature is already delivering, to do that in week two/three of the build of a brand new car model was crazy and likely not what they had planned.�
Dec 29, 2014
schonelucht Seriously? The modern ICE car has just as little to do with a Ford Model T than a Tesla has to do with an electric car like the Baker from that time period.�
Dec 29, 2014
basf_audio 
My "99.9% certainty" rolled into 100% certainty when I picked up my P85D tonight.
My post in the middle of another thread was pulled out and was selected to "start" this new thread - even though I was just passing along information from other threads (and a little bit of confirmation from my DS - sorry about that!!). I'm thrilled that my car was in the right build week and being delivered to the right region. I've enjoyed a heated steering wheel on my previous BMW but would never find it a requirement - just a nice to have. I was also one of the set of owners to miss out on auto-pilot tech on my new P85 by a few days - so I can empathize a bit on the options roulette that seems to be happening. Nevertheless, neither were on the order sheet when I committed to any of the orders and the cars still were driven enthusiastically.�
Dec 29, 2014
Andyw2100 Glad it worked out for you! (I got mine too!)
So did you figure out what the other surprise was?�
Dec 29, 2014
basf_audio It ended up not being a surprise really - just the auto-closing charge port. I did keep asking for the "super secret handshake" OS that enables beta testing auto-pilot functions - but my DS walked me out the door and told me to just drive my car.�
Dec 29, 2014
bluenation i generally agree with this post but....that bolded part....there's so much wrong i dont even know where to begin.
if you've ever wondered why many 'car guys' look down on tesla fans, well....�
Dec 29, 2014
Vger May be wishful thinking, but since my wife's P85D has been delayed from Dec 23 to Dec 29 to "week of Jan 5", I am hoping it will win the heated wheel roulette, as well as be delivered with the grey next gen seats. I know, but I can hope... :wink:�
Dec 29, 2014
jweinstein I live in Alaska, and I just learned that my P85D does not have the heated steering wheel. My excellent delivery specialist in Seattle was kind enough to double check for me, as the car is there getting finalized. I went into production 12/16 and finished about 10 days later. I'm still a very happy camper, though!�
Dec 30, 2014
andrewket Based on the picture, it looks like the heat element in the seat may extend up the back? Do you have NG seats and can you confirm? I think this may be new.�
Dec 30, 2014
frosken Heated seats in both the seat and back is definitely not new. I very much felt the heat of the heating element extending up the back on my 2014 P85.�
Dec 30, 2014
andrewket Hmm, I no longer have my 2013 so I can't test. Interesting.�
Dec 30, 2014
breser It may be new at some point but my S85 was like this. The bottom cushion and the back is heated.�
Dec 30, 2014
jerry33 I exaggerated. Should have been sixty years.�
Dec 30, 2014
basf_audio Even though I ordered tan NG seats, i only received the tan leather seats. They are heated bottom and back - as were my previous S85 and P85.�
Dec 30, 2014
3s-a-charm Bummer. I was hoping the production start date would dictate whether you get the wheel but another person had a start of production 12/16 and did not get it but you got one with 12/16 start... I have a 12/15 start so I am less likely now than ever to get this feature. Oh well. Time will tell.�
Dec 30, 2014
spentan I've got 12/19 date and I am picking up tomorrow, will update if heated wheel or not
Edit: has anyone in SoCal received it?�
Dec 30, 2014
timf Since availability has been regionalized, it's highly likely that Alaska gets lumped in with Washington since that's the nearest domestic service center location and Alaska is a small market. The Northwest U.S. hasn't been prioritized for the heated wheel, so Alaska misses out as well. Canada is a different region entirely and I would hope that it would be made available to everyone there. Good luck and please report back.�
Dec 30, 2014
GetAmped I received my P85D yesterday and although disappointed that I did not get any Next Gen seats, I did get the Heated Steering Wheel and it has been nice in the cold weather we are experiencing.�
Dec 30, 2014
sataponw Congratz! Getting the Heated Steering Wheel is definitely the better lottery to win since you will eventually get the next gen seats for sure!
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Dec 30, 2014
jweinstein I will just have to get that heated steering wheel on my P1 10D.�
Dec 31, 2014
shadowinstallz wonder if can add the subzero weather package to my s85d build to get the heated steering wheel.....anyone know if NYC would be part of the heated steering wheel region? i would assume so.�
Dec 31, 2014
sandpiper Interesting. I had assumed that the early Canadian units that got stuck for a month would all be without the heated wheel. Perhaps I'll get one too! Actually, I don't care myself, but my wife would appreciate it.�
Dec 31, 2014
Vger Great to hear! Congrats! There is hope for us still stuck in production... Our service manager hinted that we would have some nice surprises in our car. I am hoping that is one of them. :smile:
- - - Updated - - -
Given the regionalization comments above, has anyone in Canada received a P85D without the heated wheel (assuming the ordered subzero package).�
Jan 2, 2015
gpetti Footbag (Edmonton has just had a car delivered without heated steering and his car started building on the 8th. Getamped did get heated steering and started on the 10th. I was originally waiting for someone in Canada to get heated steering to indicate if Canada was considered a region. What I'm wondering now is whether Eastern Canada out of Toronto or Montreal may be treated differently than Western Canada out of Vancouver. Given that Vancouver's climate is more similar to Seattle - maybe cars coming through there might not have the feature! I had originally heard that cars built from December 8th onwards would have the feature provided the car was going to one of the specified regions. Maybe it was cars built after December 8th. I guess all we know for sure right now is that Toronto and area is considered an eligible region, and cars built on December 10th (and presumably thereafter) in an eligible region should have the feature - assuming it isn't random parts assignment like the next gen seats. Looking forward to some of you Western Canadian adding some data points.�
Jan 2, 2015
jerry33 There's a case to be made for heated steering wheels in more temperate areas compared to those areas that are really cold. In a temperate area you're likely to wear a lighter (or no) coat rather than bundle up the way you would where it gets really cold.�
Jan 2, 2015
sandpiper That's a bit of a stretch!�
Jan 2, 2015
green1 Actually you have that backwards, in a cold climate you wear a heavy jacket, so want the ambient temperature lower, and therefore have more need for a heated wheel to keep your fingers (that aren't in a jacket) warm. (especially with the touch screen controls which discourage (most) gloves)�
Jan 3, 2015
Rockster If it's a priority-driven, supply constrained phase-in of the heated wheel, that's one thing. If, however, it turns it that not all cold weather packages are the same, based upon some vague gerrymandering, I think it's absurd. A person in Dallas, or anywhere, who pays for a cold weather package should have all of the components of the cold weather package. If my hands get cold easily, I shouldn't be denied a heated steering wheel because of my zip code.�
Jan 3, 2015
svp6 When I first heard about the possibility that some "cold" regions receive the heated steering wheel I added the cold package to my order (on December 9); car entered production Dec 18. No luck, although I don't think anyone would argue MN is not the warmest place in US. It seems therefore there are 2 conditions to get this: 1. be in a region that is deemed "cold" AND 2. be lucky at the draw.
I think eventually the cold weather package will include heated steering wheel. For me it was an expensive gamble, as I have not much use for the rest of the winter package. I do not blame Tesla, as when I ordered there was heated wheel in the package description. Will make do with the remote climate control.�
Jan 3, 2015
3s-a-charm What I find most interesting is that the production entered date doesn't dictate when they started adding the heated wheel feature...? I would think that "as of December 16 production start" (or something like this) you will have a heated steering wheel. Strange that it is hit/miss during this production time. I'm Dec. 15 production start - still waiting for my car which is still at Freemont�
Jan 3, 2015
mrElbe I think just like the next Gen Seats, not enough supply is trickling in, so when they run out, the stuff on hand gets installed. BUT, heated steering wheel was never advertised, so getting one is a bonus.�
Jan 3, 2015
robby Has anybody from MA received a heated steering wheel? I'm very close to confirming my S85D order with winter package. Would love love love that feature.�
Jan 3, 2015
onasj Yes, I took delivery Dec 29 in MA and was very happy to get the heated steering wheel (but no next gen seats, front or rear). I speculated in my delivery report thread that maybe Tesla was trying to balance out the love by giving fewer next gen seats to cars that got the heated steering wheel.
The heated wheel is really fantastic, by the way, and it feels like with the heated wheel on and the seat warmer on level 1 I can go without cabin heat for long periods of time (perhaps forever?) if I'm dressed for the winter. So even though it would have been great to get both the heated wheel and the next gen seats, if I had to pick one it would definitely be the heated wheel, especially since the seats will be swapped in but the heated wheel cannot be retrofitted.�
Jan 3, 2015
sataponw same no next gen seat but heated steering wheel�
Jan 3, 2015
woof Just because someone else got it, doesn't imply you will. If you MUST have that feature, I'd suggest waiting until it becomes officially available on the order sheet. Otherwise you are just gambling. And if you don't get it, and it isn't available as a retrofit, you'd probably be sad sad sad. So perhaps just wait a bit bit bit and order what you want.�
Jan 3, 2015
robby Great to hear, thanks.I'd love to but MA $2500 credit is due to expire early next year and, much as I want that steering wheel, I don't $2500 want it.�
Jan 4, 2015
xy46 I won in the heated steering wheel lottery as well, but no Next Gen seats in the front or rear for the time being. My production start date was 12/9, and I live in Michigan.�
Jan 4, 2015
SteelGrey To my delight, my car was equipped with the heated steering wheel. Went into production on 12/16. Still waiting for my HPWC to be installed so range is at a premium. Between the heated seats and steering wheel, I've been able keep the climate control off the vast majority of the time - only turning it on to clear any condensation on the windows. Outside temps have been near or below freezing since I took delivery.
I live in Michigan but took delivery in Columbus... fortunately I also had the next gen seats (both front and rear) installed, too.�
Jan 4, 2015
eco5280 Any Coloradoans get the heated steering wheel? With temps below freezing much of December and now January I can assure you it's needed here, and I added the cold weather package to my order to get it!�
Jan 4, 2015
Barry Fellow Coloradoan here. I have an S58D on order, without the subzero option. I'll add it if and when I know the heated steering wheel is included.�
Jan 4, 2015
NOLA_Mike For some reason, each time I read about somebody getting the heated steering wheel I go out to my brand new P85D and select the Cold Weather Tab to see if the Heated Steering Wheel is there. It wasn't there the first time I checked and it's not there each subsequent time I check.
I need to seek help...�
Jan 4, 2015
sundoc Picked up my car today... had entered production 11/24. No heated wheel for me, but I'd expected that.�
Jan 4, 2015
NOLA_Mike Congrats on finally taking delivery sundoc! Heated steering wheel or not, what a machine...�
Jan 4, 2015
sundoc Thanks NOLA_Mike. It is indeed an impressive machine! Drive safe and enjoy!�
Jan 5, 2015
svp6 I saw the light today.... You see, ever since I had my first car with a heated steering wheel, I thought that is a great option. As you can see I was a little disappointed at first that I did not get it.
Let me share my experience today, in a nice Minnesota weather (-5F this morning, +5 F but with blizzard this evening). I pre-heated the car before departure to and from work. The only thing that comes to my mind is why in the world would I even want a heated steering wheel? The car was nice and comfy, I felt cocooned and spoiled. On my way out of the garage I passed an unfortunate colleague trembling in his ICE car while it was warming up for the ride.
To all people who are delaying the order because the heated wheel - you don't need it. Remote climate controlling the car is 10x better, and you will have it in any Tesla, including the bare-bones version....�
Jan 6, 2015
muleferg 7 f in the morning here in NC. I will be turning on my heater for 20 min to warm the car. Don't miss not having heated steering wheel.�
Jan 6, 2015
woof I don't disagree, but will note that if you are trying to conserve battery power, then using just the heated steering wheel and heated seats uses a lot less energy than preconditioning. Precondition if you're plugged in or have range to spare, but otherwise I'd prefer a heated wheel.�
Jan 6, 2015
gpetti I don't want to argue to heavily for the benefit of this, given that some people have this option and some don't, and I'm still not sure if I will get the feature (and be celebrating it) or not getting it (and convincing myself that I didn't want it anyway), but..... I would think that in our current weather here - temperature routinely below 0 (zero) F (-15 to -30C) - it would take a fair time heating the cabin before a cold steering wheel would become warm to the touch, or at least not cold enough to require gloves. Definitely more energy required than heating the steering wheel but truthfully in this weather I'm probably pre-warming the cabin, and turning on the heated steering.
I'm very surprised that svp6 didn't get the option. Most people who have been built after December 9th or so seem to be getting the feature - if they are in a designated region. I can't believe that Minnesota wouldn't qualify as a winter region.�
Jan 6, 2015
eco5280 Driving in my vehicle without a heated steering wheel, I've been noticing that even after the cabin is super warm and comfortable the wheel is really cold.�
Jan 6, 2015
stevezzzz I won the heated wheel lottery (yay!): car went into production on 12/16.�
Jan 7, 2015
toto_48313 I won the heated wheel lottery too... car was in production from 12/08 to 12/22.
Sounds like most of "canadian" cars with winter package got it.�
Jan 7, 2015
gpetti I have a nasty feeling that cars delivered out of the vancouver service center may not be getting this feature. I've been reviewing the various deliveries on the TMC and it seems to me that for every location that has been deemed as eligible, any cars built from December 8 onwards seem to have the feature. Another poster pointed out that the owner in anchorage was receiving their car out of the Seattle SC and therefore might not get the feature as Seattle is not an eligible area. This sounds plausible (not not necessarily sensible). If we apply the same logic to a location like Calgary or Edmonton, our cars come out of Vancouver which has similar climate conditions to Seattle. Unfortunately we have a very small data sample of received cars in the West and Footbag had his car built on December 8th which is right on the border. I am also aware of a Calgary owner who had a car built from December 13th to 16th and who doesn't have the feature. Not sure if my obsession with this feature extends to getting the car delivered in Toronto!�
Jan 7, 2015
sandpiper There's a large random component in who gets these. I'm in Ontario. A bunch of the cars that were ordered and built with mine got it. Mine did not. I have no idea why. It's almost like the guy on the line has a magic 8-ball that is deciding which cars get what new features!�
Jan 7, 2015
gpetti From the data I've been collecting, nobody who started building before December 8 will get this feature. After that date it is SC dependent. I believe your car was built before Dec 8 (you are only one Vin above my original car) so you fit this hypothesis.�
Jan 7, 2015
sandpiper I'm pretty sure that a few of the other Ontario builds that started in late November got it as well.�
Jan 7, 2015
gpetti I went through the various threads including this one, and started a small spreadsheet. So far I haven't seen anyone prior to December 8 with this feature. I believe that there was originally feedback from one or more of the DSs that this was the date when the feature started too; however I haven't tried to find that post, just reviewing actual delivery feedback.�
Jan 7, 2015
Andyw2100 If you are seriously considering going this route, I'd urge caution and subtlety. You can't just tell Tesla that's what you want to do and why. Someone else posted something about attempting to do that, and being told he could not.
I am almost certain you are mistaken about this. Everything I've seen indicates that December 8th was date that cars had to start production on or after to have any chance at getting the heated steering wheel.�
Jan 7, 2015
svp6 Point well taken. I pre-heated the car with a single cycle of 15 minutes. The wheel is certainly colder than my hands, but not to the point where I would have started the heater if I had it. More like touching pretty much every object near you in a 72F room - feels colder but not at all bothersome.�
Jan 8, 2015
gpetti Well I'm increasingly starting to accept that I will not get this feature. It appears that we are not in one of the regions that is considered a cold region. As we are currently at -20C/-4F I'd really hate to be in one of the cold regions. Actually it can get colder than that too but I think as suspected this is based on the service center location. I did consider for a few seconds various strategies from asking to have it delivered to Toronto (I could be stuck there on business :wink�
Jan 8, 2015
Andyw2100 Do not give up hope.
Tesla is rolling the feature out by region. But by the time they start building your car, your region might be included, or by then all regions could be included. You could still win the lottery.�
Jan 8, 2015
gpetti Thanks for your positive thinking! I'm still secretly hoping that the tesla gloves will actually be required to avoid burning my hands.�
Jan 9, 2015
Fezzik 67429, chicago area, production started dec 16th. Delivery Jan 8th. Have heated steering.�
Jan 12, 2015
verdee The heated steering wheel is now listed as part of the subzero weather package�
Jan 12, 2015
Andyw2100 I know someone who is going to be pretty happy about that!
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Jan 12, 2015
breser This still means you're playing the lottery unless you placed an order with this listed on the configuration.�
Jan 12, 2015
gpetti
This is kind of my worry. My car started building on Saturday so its possible that even if all future builds (with the winter package) have the feature, I might have missed it by 2 days. That being said there are other rumors afoot that maybe 2015 cars all have it etc. etc. Guess I'll find out soon.�
Jan 12, 2015
eco5280 Me Me Me Me Me!�
Jan 13, 2015
Barry Me too. So how do I amend my order to include the Subzero Package?�
Jan 13, 2015
eco5280 Contact your Owner Advisor, or whomever at Tesla you've been in contact with. No guarantees but if there's enough time before your order is ready it should make it. I added it with 10 weeks to go and it got on the order.�
Jan 15, 2015
Barry Done. Added the option, no problem.�
Jan 15, 2015
patrick40363 Did your delivery date get pushed due to the new option? i asked my DS about adding the option and he said it would push my date to the end of March from just late Feb-March now. I passed on it because I can't push the date.�
Jan 15, 2015
mfreese I had the subzero package on my order before the heated wheel was officially listed (order confirmed 12/12). I asked my DS today if I will get the heated wheel, now that it is listed on the package. Here is his response:
"The heated steering wheel is a new update that WILL be included in your vehicle. "
So there is hope for those of us who ordered before it was listed.�
Jan 15, 2015
Barry My delivery date was already pushed back (April) as I requested when I ordered in October. It didn't change.�
Jan 15, 2015
gpetti My DS informed me that I should have the feature. He didn't want to tell me until the feature was officially listed on the website which of course it is now. Thanks to those who rooted for me�
Jan 16, 2015
andrewket Congrats.�
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