May 26, 2016
HankLloydRight Cyclone already did answer -- no, there are no option codes for 3G vs. LTE.
But with that attitude, would you want any work done on your car, ever? The lifetime trip odo reset could have been a result of something entirely unrelated to the LTE upgrade, and it was just one isolated case. Also, again, it's not like it bricked the car or changed the performance or fit or finish of the car. A resetable trip odometer was inadvertently reset. I'd hardly call that any kind of significant issue or problem related to the LTE upgrade. Seriously?
I'm 100% sure that you'll never find any repair, retrofit, upgrade, or even regular service item that has had a lifetime over the entire Tesla fleet of "zero" issues or problems related to it. That just seems an extreme position to take over something hundreds (or thousands) of people done, and there have been "non-zero" reports of problems. "Non-zero" is an extremely high hurdle to hit, if not impossible.�
May 26, 2016
Jeffgtx I'm not sure why this is escalating or why you talk down to paying customers but I'll try one more time to defend a legitimate feature question in your support thread.
Cyclone is not the developer. You are. Your answer matters.
I never suggested the upgrade bricked the car. I said there were issues that made it not worth it to me. I'm allowed to have an opinion. The benefit of Lte is not worth that to me. I've done plenty of other retrofit work on my cars where the trade off was worth it to me. In this case it is not. And in order to defend my question why I didn't want to just deal with it after purchase, I explained why m. Not sure why that entitles you to unilaterally determine my attitude and call me chicken little.�
May 26, 2016
HankLloydRight Well, I really wasn't trying to talk down to you, so I apologize if it came across that way. Chalk it up to having a very different risk-reward profile.�
May 26, 2016
Cyclone The simple answer is there is no option code for LTE (I pointed Hank to the description of the option codes I found way back when, and he has since greatly improved upon that). The only surefire way to have LTE and know it wasn't a retrofit is to get a 2016 Model S. 2015 could be from the factory that way, but yo wouldn't be able to determine that easily before or after purchase (since Tesla won't release prior service history to you).
Personally, I live in an area where AT&T HSPA+ (Tesla's 3G) is more than enough for my needs. This isn't original HSPA (original 3G), but HSPA+ (enhanced 3G, later marketed as 4G but not LTE). So for me, I just wouldn't care which one a car had.
BTW, Jeff, while Tesla does not disclose service history of the car to the new owner, I would ask the Owner Advisor to look into whether the screen had ever been replaced under warranty. If for any reason the screen was replaced (even if not b/c of the LTE retrofit), the dash would have been opened up. If that is something you must avoid, I would make sure to have the OA look into it for any car you decide to purchase - even a new one.�
Jun 14, 2016
xveys Hi Hank, it appears that most of the CPO cars in Europe don't show up in your list. Eh the Netherlands has 6 cars but only 2 show up in the ev-cpo list. Glitch maybe?�
Jun 17, 2016
Rahul Hank not sure if this has been asked before but would it be possible to add Dated Added to the historical data?�
Jun 17, 2016
HankLloydRight I try to keep the table width friendly for most monitors/devices, so adding another date field would definitely push that limit even higher.. But there's also the Days on Market value which is just the difference between date added and date removed, so I don't think it's too hard to back out the date added from the DOM value, without the need to add another wide date column.�
Jun 17, 2016
cab For you guys with LTE - does going to www.speedtest.net in the car show similar speeds to the same activity on your phone when sitting in the car (note: there is also a phone app from speedtest.net)...sorry, I know this isn't really the thread for this!�
Jun 29, 2016
Fiver Just re-subscribed to the history option, but I don't see the members area like I did last time. I am logged in. How long does it take to reflect my upgraded membership?�
Jun 29, 2016
HankLloydRight I just sent you an email. I am out for a while and will correct asap when I get back!�
Jun 30, 2016
playoutside Hey Hank, is there anyway to setup an alert for a Model X? Thanks�
Jul 1, 2016
HankLloydRight Yes, I'm the option code area include: MDLX
But there only have been 2 so far, and they might have been errors because they disappeared in less than an hour.�
Jul 30, 2016
HankLloydRight Tesla just released an updated Preowned website with more filtering and sorting than they had before (although not quite as extensive as EV-CPO), and they changed the links to each car to use the entire VIN and not just the last 6 digits, so it's going to take me some time to revamp EV-CPO to work again. Unfortunately I'm at TMC Connect today, Bonnie's party tomorrow, and a Fremont factory tour on Monday, so I'm not sure I can fix it all on the road, but I'll try.
So in the mean time, many things on EV-CPO probably won't be working just quite right. Sorry for the inconvenience!�
Jul 31, 2016
HankLloydRight Ok, Tesla made a number of internal changes to their CPO site, and now EV-CPO is working again, although not at 100%.
Tesla also has removed all of their inventory cars from their Preowned site, and now it is only listing true CPOs, and EV-CPO now reflects this.
There are a few outstanding issues on EV-CPO which I'll fix when I get back on Tuesday. There's only so much I can do on a macbook air from my hotel room. But at least for now it seems to be working for US CPO cars listed on Tesla's site.�
Jul 31, 2016
Skione65 @HankLloydRight,
Thanks for the quick work! We appreciate it!
Ski�
Jul 31, 2016
ba2002 Is this really true? I seem to be seeing inventory cars still?
Buy a new Tesla today | Tesla�
Jul 31, 2016
HankLloydRight Yes, Tesla has now split off inventory cars from CPOs. I have not yet integrated that new page into EV-CPO.com. I'll do that as soon as I return from TMC Connect weekend in Tuesday. While I'm here, I'm going to Fremont for a factory tour tomorrow.�
Aug 1, 2016
HankLloydRight I had some time this morning, so I was able to add back in the Inventory cars.
Will fix any lingering issues tomorrow.�
Aug 1, 2016
Fiver
As a heads up, history isn't updating.�
Aug 1, 2016
HankLloydRight Oh I know.. I'll fix that tomorrow. Thanks.�
Aug 6, 2016
ArtC What happened to the CPO/ Inv. column?�
Aug 6, 2016
HankLloydRight They are now broken out into two separate sections, as Tesla has done on their site to separate real CPO (preowned) cars (see: Pre-Owned Model S | Tesla) from "New Inventory" cars (see: Buy a new Tesla today | Tesla)
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Aug 6, 2016
clarkbariowa Buddy Brent has a new deal if anyone is interested. Role the dice on 85k miles.
- I have a 2013 Model S85 to sell for $40g.
84k miles, but tight as a drum and all service performed by Tesla.
Non-CPO, but great deal for the enthusiast who wants a nice toy.
Black with Tan interior, HiFi, 19s, Sub-Zero, Premium Interior and Lighting, Pano and Paint Armor, No Smart Air or Third Row.
Brent Seavey | Pre-Owned Sales Advisor, Midwest/Central U.S.1200 Old Skokie Valley Rd | Highland Park, IL 60035
w 847-579-0028 x 72102 / m 630-849-4233| [email�protected]�
Aug 7, 2016
GFORCED Thanks for this. I watched the link like a hawk until pulling the trigger last week. Without this link, I would have probably bought used from a dealer with little or now warranty left. Now I have a CPO car with 4 more year warranty!�
Aug 7, 2016
GFORCED Thanks for this Hank! It helped me purchase a CPO P85 cheaper than local dealers and with 4 year warranty! I really appreciate it. ;-)�
Aug 7, 2016
HankLloydRight You're welcome!! Congrats.�
Aug 9, 2016
xveys Hi Hank, can you tell how often the European sites get updated on your site?
There is one car that i was interested in (vin 23204) which someone snatched away yesterday, 1-2 hours before me. It still appears on ev-cpo.com though.
Thanks for the tool already, really helpful in my search!�
Aug 10, 2016
Cashoverass You have Vin 151327 listed with AP, AP is supposed to stand for autopilot, right? My Tesla sales person confirmed this car doesn't have AP.�
Aug 10, 2016
HankLloydRight Thanks. That car has option code TP03 which at one point in the past was for cars with "Autopilot Convenience Package".
But that option code is now for "Power and Lighting Package". I've adjusted accordingly.�
Aug 11, 2016
mwbbrown Love the site, thanks.
One small bug I've noticed. When filtering the US Model X inventory by wheel type the 22" Onyx Black is the only type that works. So if you filter by 20" Silver it shows no results even though there are plenty. I assume it's something to do with the inch symbol (") since the Onyx wheels are the only one with a (-) instead of a (").�
Aug 11, 2016
HankLloydRight Yeah, that's probably the issue. I can fix it a little later today or tomorrow. Thanks.�
Aug 11, 2016
HankLloydRight Now fixed. thanks.�
Aug 12, 2016
mwbbrown 1 hour and 2 mins from first post acknowledging the problem and announcing it's fixed. Damn, I feel like I owe you a subscription.
Thanks.�
Aug 12, 2016
HankLloydRight Thanks. I've been in the live/24x7 website business for 18 years. So when something (anything) is not working, a lot of people are probably effectect besides the one or two people who raised the issue. EV-CPO is small compared to my other properties, but the same edict applies to them all. I absolutely hate it when websites don't work (even a little), so I strive to make sure that doesn't happen to any users of my sites. Thanks for using the site.�
Aug 18, 2016
dckiwi I just signed up for a premium membership on ev-cpo.com today. When I ran my first search of CPO inventory Model S vehicles I saw a ton of 'hidden' listings. I didn't have time to look at them, but when I returned later and ran another search all these 'hidden' listings are gone.
I doubt that many cars sold in an hourWhat am I missing? Thanks
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Aug 18, 2016
theflyer Hank, thank you for making the EV-CPO tool. I've had a number of alerts running for awhile now; earlier this week I found the car I wanted from one of those alerts. I'm now anxiously awaiting delivery. I didn't think I would be an owner of a Tesla until the Model 3 arrived, but your tool allowed me to find a 2014 with autopilot and low miles at a price I was willing to pay.�
Aug 18, 2016
HankLloydRight
I've been working on the Alerts page today to incorporate Model X and other options, and I removed the hidden cars from the resulting list. But I just took that out so you should get better results now. I will fix up the rest of that page tomorrow to show more/better information in the Alerts result table.
Congratulations!!! Thanks for the feedback.�
Aug 18, 2016
dckiwi Hrm there are definitely more results now (431 vs 200 something before). However I still don't see the hidden listings - I believe they have a special character before the location name?�
Aug 18, 2016
HankLloydRight Yes, hidden cars should have an "@" sign after the location name. I can see a few. You can try searching for "@" in the search box to find them. This is something I plan to improve tomorrow.�
Aug 18, 2016
dckiwi Ok thanks for the quick responses!�
Aug 18, 2016
Az_Rael I am having some trouble with an alert I am running. Today it shows (1) car (it was 7 yesterday), but it looks like there are more than that in the main CPO list.
Here is the Alert parameters:
Premium Audio:Y;
Color:Blue,RedMC;
Country:US;
CPO/Inv:CPO; Interior:GreyLeather,GreyLthr&Alcant,GreyNappa,GreyNextGen,GreyPerf,TanLeather,TanLthr&Alcant,TanNappa,TanNextGen,TanPerf;
Options PK01 X037;
Roof Pano;
Tech Package:Y;
Wheels:19Any;
Year:2013,2014,2015;
It only shows (1) match (the page won't load to show me what the match VIN is), but I think the following VIN's do match this search:
P31975, P32016, P52549, P51024 unless I am missing something.�
Aug 18, 2016
HankLloydRight Yeah, I'll have to dig into this tomorrow. I'm not at my dev desk tonight, but I promise to get this sorted out asap.�
Aug 18, 2016
HankLloydRight I made one change -- Tesla recently changed all the option codes for colors... that might have been excluding a few. Other than that, I'll look into it tomorrow.�
Aug 18, 2016
HankLloydRight Ok,once I fixed the colors, I'm seeing 13 cars matching these criteria.�
Aug 18, 2016
Az_Rael That might have been it. I now have 13 matches showing and all of the example VINs are listed now! Thanks!�
Aug 19, 2016
rscott0 Same here! I wanted a CPO Model S with AP at a decent price, knowing it would be nearly impossible to find. Less than 2 weeks ago, I got the E-mail alert. Now I have a Model S in my garage! So count this as yet another "Thank you!"
Waiting was definitely not easy, but as any Tesla owner will attest to, well worth it.�
Aug 19, 2016
HankLloydRight Thanks for the feedback folks! It's comments like these that really make my day.�
Aug 19, 2016
HankLloydRight System update notice: Alerts for price changes are now only sent out if the price changes $500 or more. Price fluctuations of less than $500 are not recorded. Once the price changes $500 or more, then the price on EV-CPO will be updated and alerts will be sent out.
Tesla is fond of pushing out dozens or hundreds of $100 price changes (both UP and DOWN), generating lots of pretty useless alerts to be sent out. So it is possible to see a small price differences (<$500) between Tesla's site and EV-CPO, until the price difference hits $500.�
Aug 19, 2016
dckiwi I actually don't get any results when I search for "@' in the search box. Not sure what I'm doing wrong. Also, the alerts.php page is not available - I guess it's down for maintenance currently?�
Aug 19, 2016
HankLloydRight It's working from here. There's now a separate column for the hidden attribute.�
Aug 19, 2016
HankLloydRight If you have complex alerts, it could take a minute to load the alerts page.�
Aug 19, 2016
dckiwi Weird, this is what I'm seeing: (wonder if it's an issue w/ my browser)�
Aug 19, 2016
dckiwi Also no place to manage alerts (see screenshot). I've cleared my browser cache and tried both safari and chrome.�
Aug 19, 2016
HankLloydRight Do you have a current Premium subscription? Are you logged into that account? If you post screenshots please don't crop anything out like the url or the page footer.�
Aug 19, 2016
HankLloydRight Open the subscription tab and see what it says. A Premium sub will also have "Member Area" and the "Hidden" sections. They are not on your page so either your sub ran out or you are not logged into the right account.�
Aug 19, 2016
dckiwi I am a current Premium subscriber and I am logged in. Sorry about the screenshots - here's a better one. You'll see I'm logged in (at the bottom, I just redacted part of my email address). You'll see there's no alerts link and there are no results from the @ search.
Thanks for your help.�
Aug 19, 2016
dckiwi Ugh sorry user error! I had two accounts registered. I had paid for premium on one and was using the other. Again, sorry for the false start on this one. Ok off to look at CPOs�
Aug 20, 2016
theflyer I too was waiting for an AP car to arrive. Having the ability to set alerts by specific features was really key. For me, I had three criteria: 85kWh pack, AP, and 19" wheels. Its clear from the activity on that alert that AP cars are showing up more frequently now.�
Aug 20, 2016
HankLloydRight I've been working on the Alert page lately to add Model X and other MX features.
For people that haven't seen it, here are all the ways you can set up alerts:
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Aug 24, 2016
HankLloydRight Another update today.. if you have a Premium subscription, the "Options" popup for each car (accessed by clicking on this icon:)is now enhanced with Option Categories, in order to make the long list of options more digestible.
Now you can quickly "at-a-glance" see the options you are most interested in. Here's one example.
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Aug 24, 2016
Az_Rael Should we be cautious of the EV-CPO data until this update is finished? I have P16267, P19847, P24262, P26343, P27889 showing in my alert that do show X037 on EV-CPO, but the detail page source code does not appear to include X037. Only one that meets my criteria, P32016, has X037 on the actual detail page.�
Aug 24, 2016
HankLloydRight Only a little bit, as far as I can tell now, the PFM are the only option that seems to be out of sync. If you're unsure, go by the car detail page on Tesla.com for the options on the car. Or if you know how, open up the HTML source and see if X037 is there or not.
This is at the top of my list to get fixed, but it's not simple.�
Aug 24, 2016
Az_Rael Thanks for the update! I do know how to check the page source, so I will just double check them for now.�
Aug 25, 2016
goofygrin what would be super helpful would be to scrape the estimated lease payment. That gets us a ROM discount amount (and helps find those sweet lease deals where there's a large discount from MSRP).
I'd also like a column for filtering on premium package (although I know over time the contents have changed... power lift gate? That's really my concern).�
Aug 25, 2016
HankLloydRight I looked into the leasing numbers, and the monthly payment is calculated on-the-fly with javascript taking all the options, mileage, msrp, and discount into account. That's not to say I couldn't reverse engineer the code to calculate it on this end, but that's a bigger project to undertake.
I'll look into the PUP as a column, but in the mean time, you can search for option code PI01.�
Aug 25, 2016
HankLloydRight I've also now fixed the phantom Power Folding Mirrors errors in their source data. 330 cars had the X037 option sent when they shouldn't have. My code now has to open up every car's detail page and compare the two option lists and calculate the differences and adjust accordingly.
While running that code, it came across at least 20 other cars that had some other weirdness in their option code listings. I'm sending off a note to my TM contact to see if we can get all these fixed, as I hope they are interested in not having inconsistent data. But since most of the errors are about the PFM which their site doesn't search/filter for, I'm not sure how much traction I'll get. But at least EV-CPO.com now it accurate for those 330 cars previously reporting PFM that didn't actually have them.�
Aug 25, 2016
Skione65 @HankLloydRight,
Great Update (Options Categories)!!!
Ski�
Aug 25, 2016
HankLloydRight I'm moving the site to a Cloudflare front end tonight, so if anyone notices anything out of the ordinary, please let me know.
Thanks.�
Aug 28, 2016
robski Not a real biggie but I was cruising the experimental section and notice a couple P85Ds that were ~$5k off - 082522, 081890. I realize this is "experimental" tho.�
Aug 29, 2016
HankLloydRight Thanks, I'll investigate. The "hidden" cars are only updated once per day (it has to call the page for each one to check).. and right now there are almost 800 hidden cars (which is pretty strange in itself!), so that's a lot of pageviews hitting the Tesla website. So I try not to abuse it too much.�
Aug 29, 2016
lakerholic I have a request: find me a non-facelift P90DL like the six I passed on over the weekend and now regret doing so! HAHA. JK. Hoping for a miracle flood of 2016 non-facelift P90Dls hitting the hidden inventory fields soon, but that may be like hoping to win the lottery.
In all seriousness, thanks for providing such an awesome service to us all. It's bee fun daydreaming, procrastinating, and, ultimately feeling regret for passing up cars. Eventually I'll grab one, and the referral credit will be coming your way!�
Aug 29, 2016
HankLloydRight Thanks for your feedback!!
Unless I'm missing something, there are 157 such cars on the site matching that criteria. 6 are listed, 151 are "hidden". Unless you were being sarcastic.. I'm not sure.�
Aug 29, 2016
dalamchops The ones in hidden are sold (mine included)�
Aug 29, 2016
HankLloydRight Not all of them. I just randomly clicked on about 10% and they were all listed for sale (not removed). What's your VIN?�
Aug 29, 2016
dalamchops Correct, they still show up, but are unsearchable via Tesla.com, mine's 114012. The deposit is already put down and in transit soon.�
Aug 29, 2016
HankLloydRight That's the purpose of the hidden cars -- they are all unsearchable on Tesla's site (in fact you can't even search for VINs
But it is still listed: Model S P90D 5YJSA1E43FF114012 | Tesla
I suspect they'll take the listing down when you actually buy the car (not just a deposit down).
But that doesn't imply that most/any of the 156 other cars that fit lakerholic's criteria are already sold.�
Aug 29, 2016
lakerholic I just realized I needed to sign up for premium to see the additional cars. Hopefully they pop up. I'm not seeing them at the moment. Love love love the site!!�
Aug 29, 2016
lakerholic Found it! Let the fun begin again!!�
Aug 29, 2016
HankLloydRight Congrats on your new car!
But just be aware the "hidden" cars is experimental -- it's hard to tell if any particular car is available. If you find one you want, try to buy it and put a deposit down, but they may get back to you that it's not available. Use at your own risk!!�
Aug 29, 2016
dalamchops
They were all taken down at one point, and came back. All the MCR P90Ds are definitely sold as a lot of them were discussed in the other thread about the ridiculously low lease prices.�
Aug 29, 2016
dalamchops BTW, i notice quite a few of X's not showing up on your site, they're not searchable and only show up as an "inventory match" when you configure a new vehicle.
ex.
Model X 90D 5YJXCAE25GF008080 | Tesla
Model X 90D 5YJXCBE20GF008249 | Tesla
Model X 90D 5YJXCAE24GF005428 | Tesla
Model X 90D 5YJXCBE29GF011070 | Tesla�
Aug 29, 2016
HankLloydRight Again, I just went through about 20% of the MCRs P90DLs and they are all still listed for sale. And as I said, if they just have deposits on them, they will still appear as listed (which is why the section is labeled as 'experimental') and the listing are most likely taken down as the deals are actually closed. So again, I don't think you can say "they're all sold". There are 70s MCR P90DLs listed -- there weren't 70 people jumping on the low lease deals in that thread.�
Aug 29, 2016
HankLloydRight Any of those cars need to have been listed on the "Inventory" pages at least once in order to be picked up. There's clearly unlsited inventory that they are showing for "inventory matches" that aren't listed on the "Inventory" site. There's no way for me to pick those up.
You can look at the first car listed -- DSB in Pennsylvania. Not listed on the "New Inventory" site.�
Aug 29, 2016
HankLloydRight None of these cars are listed on the "New Inventory" pages, so they'll never show up on EV-CPO until they are.�
Aug 29, 2016
lakerholic I just tried to put deposits down on about 10, all are gone (got the dreaded "Something went wrong" error when I clicked Buy and attempted to place a deposit). My only hope is a deposit falls through on one ore more of these, so I can jump on it. Or that the only one left locally that fits my criteria gets a further price reduction to move the car.
Will still have my eyes and ears glued to the ev-cpo site!�
Aug 30, 2016
SD_Engnr There may not have been 70 people discussing the cars in that thread, but there were a lot of people that jumped on the lowest priced P90DLs. I've been in communication with 3 different OA's and they confirmed that all of the sub $1000/month P90DLs are sold/leased. They seriously went like hotcakes.�
Aug 30, 2016
HankLloydRight It's good to see *something* different happens.
Yesterday I tried clicking "buy" on about 5 and it worked, but I wasn't going to actually make a deposit.
Like I always say "experimental"!!�
Aug 30, 2016
DougH There are 3 P85+'s listed that all most likely have AP. V VIN's higher than 52K�
Aug 30, 2016
HankLloydRight Is Tesla enabling AP on all CPOs? These cars probably have the AP hardware (based on VIN), but I think would require physical confirmation before assuming they have AP hardware. If the AP was enabled, I'd expect Tesla to be listing them as such. Caveat Emptor.�
Aug 30, 2016
lakerholic You can click "buy" on any of them. It's after you enter all your information and click the purchase button at the end that the error occurs.
As you said, experimental means just that. Still grateful for the site!�
Aug 30, 2016
bonaire Hank - The way it is looking now, if you sort on the right-hand column (date/time) it is sorting on alpha and not on proper date/time format. So, 8/29 4Pm, then 8/29 4Am, then 8/29 3Pm and then 8/29 3Am, etc. Not PMs first then AMs next if DESC sorting.�
Aug 30, 2016
HankLloydRight What browser are you using? I've seen this before with different browsers.
I've also considered removing the time altogether because it's not all that important, whereas the date listed is.�
Aug 30, 2016
Pando IE 11 (Win10) doesn't sort properly. The times as they are currently displayed are confusing. 01pm looks just weird. It almost looks like 24hr notation but there is the am/pm added.
I'd say make them hh:mm in 24hr format (only one extra : character needed, only very minimal additional horizontal space needed).
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Aug 30, 2016
HankLloydRight I used to have it in 24h format, but that wasn't very user friendly.
Also, the hour a car was added in Dec/2015? Not really useful information.
I'll just take it out.�
Aug 30, 2016
Pando I agree, but it would still be somewhat useful if it sorted by the actual date AND time, not just randomly based on the displayed column. In other words, sort by the queried datetime field, not by the formatted text string that is displayed (if your web table grid module allows it).
This is of course only useful for new entries posted recently.�
Aug 30, 2016
HankLloydRight In order to speed up the page loading of the home page, for Premium members, I moved the ever growing "Hidden" car section to its own page, just like the "History" section. It's also now broken out into separately loadable sections so you only need to load the particular section you are interested in.
You'll now see a link for 'Hidden Cars' under the 'Member's Area" section.�
Aug 30, 2016
lakerholic Nice work. So, just confirming, once the orders are "processed" some of these cars in the hidden inventory section will fall off, correct? And similarly, there could be cars that come on to the hidden inventory section that have just not officially been placed into the public inventory section?�
Aug 30, 2016
HankLloydRight That's my understanding on the first part.
For the second part, for a car to be found as "hidden" it had to have showed up on the public listings at least once, and then removed. It could be removed because it was sold, or moved to a demo/loaner status, or they just decided to de-list it. But then at some point, the car's detail page becomes active again (has a 'buy' button) but isn't relisted. That's why I call them 'hidden'. It's not possible for hidden car to just show up without being on the public site at least once and captured by EV-CPO.�
Aug 30, 2016
Pando Aaah, thanks, that makes sense now. I wasn't entirely clear on how could your system pull this "hidden" inventory without it being listed. You're saving the original link when it's first listed and then checking it for updated status later.�
Aug 30, 2016
HankLloydRight Yup.�
Sep 1, 2016
HankLloydRight Ok, as we were talking about the 'hidden' cars, Tesla just went through and purged about 750 of those cars.. there are now only about 86 "hidden" cars still listed for sale.�
Sep 1, 2016
Skione65 @HankLloydRight,
What do you mean by 'purge'? Removed them? What do they do with those purged vehicles?
Ski�
Sep 1, 2016
HankLloydRight They finally reconciled the cars that actually had been sold with the 'hidden' listings that made it appear that these cars were still for sale.�
Sep 1, 2016
bonaire Small bug. In Europe, a car may show up as a mileage of "3 172 km"
Model S P90D 5YJSA7E40GF136117 | Tesla France
But in your list, shows up as "3" - that space is being treated as termination. I guess look for the km and take all tokens, ignoring whitespace?�
Sep 1, 2016
Skione65 @HankLloydRight,
Ah....thanks for the clarification. I remember clicking afew buys and getting the "something went wrong" response.....that explains it.
Ski�
Sep 1, 2016
HankLloydRight Thanks. There were a few like that, now fixed.
I have code to parse the miles (or KM) from all the European countries, including the space in France (I actually remove that space and other characters in two different places). I think the ones you found were added several months ago before I had that code. But that really shouldn't happen going forward.�
Sep 2, 2016
HankLloydRight New feature announcement for EV-CPO.com!
I've now added a "Real Time Listing Feed" section, so you can now watch any changes that occur to the database in (almost) real time.
There's a new section called "Real Time Listing Feed" that when open, shows you a scrolling list of the most recent changes, including:
- - New Listings
- - Price changes (up or down)
- - Sold cars that have been relisted
- - Hidden cars that are now listed
- - Location changes
There are three separate feeds, one each for United States, Canada, and Europe. Click the button for each Region. Also, there's no need to reload/refresh the webpage, it automatically grabs new updates on every cycle through the listings.
There's also a slider bar for you to change the scrolling speed if it goes to fast or slow for you.
You can click on any car image to be taken directly to the Tesla Motors detail page for all the options and more photos of each car, and of course, the "Buy Now" button.
This feature is open to everyone -- no subscription or login necessary!
Enjoy!�
Sep 2, 2016
Pando This is pretty cool! Would you be able to add a date in front of the time? It's scrolling, but without knowing the date it's confusing.
>>10:30 pm -- Model S Trim...
>>4:40 am -- Model S
>>9:00 am -- Model X Trim:...
>>3:07 pm -- Model S Trim: S85 VIN:....�
Sep 2, 2016
bonaire Minor (?) Enhancement request for those who may enjoy it.
From the main list page, Trim level shows P90D, P100D and so on. However, if you are parsing the options list, could you "sniff out" Ludicrous mode option and actually list out the P90DL and P100DL right on the list-page in the trim option selector?�
Sep 2, 2016
HankLloydRight Yeah, that's because there's not a lot of data yet..(just yesterday and today).
I'll probably clear it out each morning so it only shows changes "today", depending on how many changes we see per day.
But if not, I'll add a date.�
Sep 2, 2016
HankLloydRight I'll look into it, sure.�
Sep 2, 2016
HankLloydRight I put in a "today"/"yesterday" indicator. I don't think keeping data more than two days would be desirable. But for slow days, it will still show something. Thanks.�
Sep 2, 2016
Pando Perfect - much better! Thanks!�
Sep 2, 2016
HankLloydRight Since I don't think I've seen Tesla officially use the P90DL as a named trim option, I've only seen 'P90D w/Ludicrous mode' (or 'P100D w/ludicrous'), I don't want to start doing exception coding creating a new trim designation (or what Tesla calls 'badges' internally) than what already officially exists.
So what I did was remove the "Supercharging Enabled" column, and replaced it with a "Ludicrous enabled" Y/N column, so you can easily filter on just cars with Ludicrous mode.�
Sep 3, 2016
steveho I noticed that there are several (couple dozen) that are listed as S85, when they are P85 or P85+, such as this one:
85 kWh Performance Model S 5YJSA1DP3DFP13680 | Tesla�
Sep 3, 2016
HankLloydRight Thanks for the sharp eye. About 13 of those came across coded incorrectly from Tesla's site. I've correct the errors. You can see it here, in Ohio, Preowned, Solid Black, it's listed as just "85", but the same car as a P85+ on the detail page:
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Sep 3, 2016
HankLloydRight I've also added exception code to handle this in the future if P85+s are mis-coded as 85s.
I'm kinda surprised at how these errors slip through -- you'd think they'd be using the same source database for these pages and mis-codings like this wouldn't happen.
But at least there are people like yourself who are quick to find and point these things out!�
Sep 3, 2016
steveho Wow! That's fast. So it looks like it is a problem on Tesla's site that they initially publish as an S85, then change it later to a P85?�
Sep 3, 2016
HankLloydRight It's just an inconsistency in their data stream. They didn't later change it to anything.. it's still listed incorrectly on the listing page as an S85, but on the detail page as a P85+. So they're pulling that data from two different sources, and obviously one of them is wrong.�
Sep 6, 2016
sbtz Are lulls in the introduction of new CPOs common, or has something changed with the CPO market? Seems like it has slowed to a trickle...�
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