Oct 15, 2015
Gr8pursuit Anyone get the parallel parking feature to work yet, if so, what's the trick.
Looks like it's automatically enabled as there is no control for it.�
Oct 15, 2015
ReddyKilowatt The auto park is actually my favorite part. At first it didn't seem to work for me. Tried 4 or 5 times. Then bingo! But I think it has to do with speed, your lateral distance from the parked cars and the amount you pull up passed the space. It does a beautiful parking job! Completes with a stop with equal distance from the front and back cars. But I think the "P" symbol should appear a bit brighter on the instrument panel so you know it "sees" the space and is ready to park�
Oct 15, 2015
green1 You say it has to do with speed, distance from the parked cars, and how far you pull past the space, mind sharing what you found worked there? (how slow/fast, how far from the parked cars, and how far past the space?)�
Oct 15, 2015
tooslo @ReddyKilowatt Can you give details about your speed, lateral distance from the parked cars, and the amount you pulled up passed the space? I can't seem to make it work either.�
Oct 15, 2015
ReddyKilowatt 10-12 mph.
2 - 2.5 ft. lateral distance
Stop about halfway past the frontmost car.
That seemed to do the trick. Also I think the curb needs to be somewhat pronounced.�
Oct 15, 2015
green1 That's very unfortunate, our city likes very low and rounded curbs...�
Oct 15, 2015
Max* How pronounced? I've had my car notice curbs that are very low. But I haven't had a chance to test auto-parking yet.
Also does auto-park work on both sides of the street?�
Oct 15, 2015
MileHighMotoring Must be the curbs near me - it never activated after 5 attempts on two streets with varying distances between cars.�
Oct 15, 2015
GlmnAlyAirCar Having problems myself. I haven't been able to get the "p" indicator. The owners manual is a bit confusing and contradictory regarding when to expect to see the "p". It says it will show the "p" 1-2 lengths in front of the space, but then it says to stop 1 length in front.
The problem with experimenting with this is that there is usually someone impatient behind me so I don't always feel I have time to keep on trying. (It took a lot of practice to learn to use my, very much less capable, Prius auto park).�
Oct 15, 2015
ReddyKilowatt Keep trying. IT will kick in at some point and you'll get a feel for it.
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It supposed to. Only tried it on the right side.�
Oct 15, 2015
Ames https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OPESlV1sQA
This seems to be the first video, external shot only...�
Oct 15, 2015
rxlawdude I tried several open spots between cars, and zero. Nada. Zilch. No "P" icon. All spots are consistent with the required scenario for it to work.�
Oct 15, 2015
DFiveK2 i got nothing either. About 10 tries of varying layout/spacing/etc. No "P"�
Oct 15, 2015
Footbag Same here, no success at getting the P. I'm hoping someone can provide suggestions about the 'magic touch' to get it to work!�
Oct 15, 2015
msnow Same here. No matter what try (speed, distance to cars, curb height, distance between cars) do I ever get the "P" for auto parking. Need help.�
Oct 15, 2015
verdee I've been driving around my neighborhood trying to get it working and no dice. At least I know I am not crazy�
Oct 15, 2015
gtimbers Assuming you get the P to show up, where is the activate out park that the manual talks about? Does it show up automatically on the main screen?�
Oct 15, 2015
MileHighMotoring If the P shows up, you follow the instructions. Drive past the spot, put the car in reverse, and it'll take over.�
Oct 15, 2015
ibdb Roamed around several neighborhoods near home looking for a place to try it and only saw a couple of opportunities. Couldn't get it to trigger in either one. I would have kept trying, but it's mid-day and I didn't want any block watch captains to get the wrong idea about the car slowly cruising their neighborhood.�
Oct 15, 2015
MikeBur Details/limitations of Autopark are in the manual (yes, it was updated)
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Oct 15, 2015
Max* 20 feet in length? The car is a little over 16'... that'll kill a lot of parking opportunities in big cities, and I can do better myself.�
Oct 15, 2015
sorka If I can't have 2 feet in front and back between the cars I won't park there. Too much chance of one of those cars in front or back hitting me when they leave.�
Oct 15, 2015
Lex I'm with you on this one. 2 feet either way is a good average, but based on other factors I won't always leave it dead center...
Thx for the link, it did a fine job parking BUT I try not to grind the tires into the asphalt when completely stopped, I try to get it in as I'm slowing down. If it does this for me I'll be unlikely to use it for fear of killing my tires.
And wasn't buddy's power steering making a funny noise ?�
Oct 15, 2015
notAmeenPerson Was the the physical position of the gear stalk in reverse during the entire maneuver? Did the stalk move towards drive itself? Or did it need manual switching from the driver?�
Oct 15, 2015
mgboyes In the UK a 6m long space is a rare luxury indeed. So I guess for 80% of the parking spaces I come across this won't be useful.
Also the car in that video ends up too far from the kerb for a smaller UK road. Maximum 2 inches from wheel to kerb I'd say.�
Oct 15, 2015
Stoneymonster The gear stalk is always a momentary switch. It doesn't "stick" in gear.�
Oct 15, 2015
msnow I know there are a few people in this forum that have said they can auto parallel park consistently with this firmware but after spending the last three hours testing in several common scenarios that should work based on the release notes I have been unable to. Unless someone can demonstrate differently with video using our release I have to conclude the one may be broken or perhaps were not given enough information to enable it.�
Oct 15, 2015
Patrick W No luck here. I've spent the afternoon at the local service center. They've been trying with another customer's car and with mine. Several different parking spots, varied speeds, varied distances from the parked cars, varied distance between the parked cars.
In all case no "P' is seen.
Also spent time on the phone with the Help desk. It was the first they'd heard about the problem (apparently they do not read the forums). They were unable to come up with a fix and are going to pull my car's logs.
Not blaming anyone, BTW. Any software this complex is going to have issues and it's only been out a few hours.
The rest of the package is working well. Driving in traffic with hands on my lap is spooky. But fun.
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Oct 15, 2015
JenniferQ Where is this manual that's updated? I only have found the one on mytesla and it's not updated yet. Thanks much.�
Oct 15, 2015
MileHighMotoring Press the Tesla T in your Model S - then click RELEASE NOTES�
Oct 15, 2015
dadaleus It does work. Took me a while to figure out how to kick it in. Similar to ReddyKilowatt, I pulled up slowly next to the car behind the spot, drove forward slowly (8-12mph seems about right) until the front of my car was about 3 feet in front of the car in front of the spot I wanted and I could see a "P" icon on my display over the steering wheel. Switching to reverse, the autopark button appeared on the rear camera display on the 17" screen. Tapped that and just watched with amazement. It made me a bit anxious because it moves pretty quick (faster than I can) and gets closer to the curb than I usually do (or can safely), but I can tell it knows what its doing.�
Oct 15, 2015
Nevek The manual on your MS display is also updated with the V 7 release-Controls, Settings, lower left corner, Manual.�
Oct 15, 2015
msnow
I followed your method to a tee, so have dozens of others but it's not working for us. Love to see video of your screens while you are executing this.�
Oct 15, 2015
dpodoll Can it parallel park on the left side of a one way street?�
Oct 15, 2015
dadaleus Hmm... Okay. Heading to the gym momentarily. I'll try to get a video.
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Sorry but I don't have any of those near me to test for you.�
Oct 15, 2015
dadaleus Not the best production quality, but here's a shot of it from my dashcam. (I have it mounted inside so I can see what valets and such do in my car.)
https://vimeo.com/142581477�
Oct 15, 2015
sillydriver This was exactly my impression watching the video. A human would cut the wheel while the car moves slowly so that the tires aren't scrubbed nor the power steering stressed. Reprogramming to do it the right way shouldn't be to difficult.�
Oct 15, 2015
ricci21 Ames, That's my video.
I have some internal videos also. I was going to post them but it's my 20 year anniversary and my daughters 13 year birthday.
Quite a day!
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The P shows up on the main dash and you put the car in Reverse. Then you get a button on the 17inch screen to start the auto park.
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Oct 15, 2015
Footbag So I went out again after work and got it to work. I don't have a video, but the 2 'secrets' that I uncovered are: a) the "P" doesn't show up until I am further past the parking spot than i would think it should - so in other words, try pulling a bit further ahead. b) it seems to NOT WORK on low or rounded curbs. Most of the newer residential curbs are rounded (think the type that you can drive up for a garage). The auto park doesn't want to work on those.
To be clear, other than driving slowly, you don't need to do anything special... be a 'normal' (at least for me lol) distance away from the cars as you drive by them, the spot has to be appropriate... it seems to fit in somewhat tight spots... but that is relative again to my perspective. Drive past the space, and drive almost past the car in front of the space and if the curb is right, you should get the P in the console, put in reverse and the 17" will show a message to begin the parking process.
In the pictures above, the left/first picture is a type of curb it won't work on. The right/second picture is a square curb it will work on, and that space is pretty similar to what you need to park the car. Hopefully someone will do up an instructional video, but in lieu of that, I hope this post helped someone get it to work.
I will mention that the 3 parking jobs it did, I intervened as I was concerned about it curbing the rear wheel. I may not of, but it looked close, so I err'd on the side of of caution and aborted the maneuver. Aside from that (or if I get comfortable that it won't curb the wheel), it works well and fairly quickly. I'm not a great parallel parker, but I have done very well with the S, and the car can do it just as fast as I can.�
Oct 15, 2015
ricci21 I concur with Footbag. It is important to have a solid curb in order to get Autopark to work. I tried a few times without a solid curb and it would not engage. Here is my attempt at posting the interior video.
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Oct 15, 2015
Sean Dunn I spent a while trying to autopark working in East Portland without luck. The curbs are kind of crappy, often with leaves/grass/etc obscuring them. No luck on a number of spots which should have worked in various neighborhoods.
But when I took my car into the suburbs with square curbs, sidewalk, and fresh asphalt, autopilot picked up a parking spot and did a pretty good job of parking. I was about 2 feet away from the cars on the right hand side, and the front of my car was about 4 feet in front of the car in front of the parking spot. I saw a [P] icon on my drivers display next to my car. To start autopark, I put the car into reverse, on the center console I got the rear view camera with a button asking if I wanted to start autopark. Hitting the button started autopark.�
Oct 15, 2015
MarcG I was able to get my car to park itself on the first attempt:
The result was pretty impressive based on how quick the parking job itself was. Close enough to the curb without touching it:
And about equidistant to the cars in front & back:
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Oct 15, 2015
jlewisthe3rd Here's a good video of auto-parking and some tips to consider.
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Oct 15, 2015
Footbag Well now I have a video with some tips/explanations provided (similar to ewisthe3rd )... unfortunately it was captured in the dark, but for what it is worth, here it is:
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Oct 15, 2015
ahimberg Saw this note on facebook about getting autopark to work:
Hey guys, I'm a product specialist. We just got an email today explaining that the self park requires calibration, which in this case is simply driving the car around for several hours so the sensors can calibrate with curbs and what not. We recommend driving at 10-50mph on curvy and straight roads to speed up this process. Please let me know if you have any questions.�
Oct 15, 2015
Dutchie IToo bad you were not allowed to park there (yellow line).....�
Oct 16, 2015
msnow Thank you very much for taking the time to do this. We have the type of curbs it should work on so I'll pull a little farther in front of the lead parked car and test it out. I saw on another post that the sensors needed calibration by driving around but it didn't make sense. I will let you know my results. Thanks again.
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Thank you! Looks like you're pulling much farther in front of the lead car than I thought was needed. I'll try again.�
Oct 16, 2015
znino I didn't get my car to auto park yesterday after trying for quite some time with nice curbs and quite a lot of well spaced spots. I will try again today by pulling ahead even more than I did yesterday. While I applaud Tesla adding this feature I do have to say that it should NOT be this complicated to auto park a car. This feature is available on many cars today including lower end brands and they all seem to work without this effort. My wife drives a BMW i3 and I never had to read a manual or be so specific about the number of feet away from the car or the size of the spot. It just works, like a human. You pull up along cars at the distance you naturally would and it just does it. No fiddling, no driving around to calibrate. No need to go search the internet for tips and tricks. My last point is that if, indeed, the car requires such large spaces to be able to park (I have seen things like 3 feet in front and 3 in back....even just 3 feet additional total is huge), then this feature is simply not a convenience feature nor has much value to me. The idea behind self park should be, imho, to park the car properly, in tighter spots, not perform a maneuver that all drivers should be able to do easily, especially if you have 3-5 extra feet! In most urban areas, you will rarely see that kind of space available between cars.... so what?, the car is helping me park in a spot that I could fit a motorhome in? Not much advantage. It is a feature that, for Tesla, is very late to the game, not game changing and now apparently, not really that adept. A little disappointed and I hope they will work on making it easier to use and make it better at performing the task it is trying to alleviate. The whole point is that the car should be able to do these things better than me. See obstacles first. Brake first. Not get tired on highways....and parking in tight spots!
PS. The i3 Will park in spots that have about less than a foot between cars. It's quite impressive!�
Oct 16, 2015
Max* 20 feet total, car is ~16 feet. It requires ~4 additional feet.
I already mentioned this (in this thread?) that this feature is for people who didn't grow up in a city and who can't normally parallel park. My wife (no offense to her) would love it, she can parallel park, but it's hard for her to do it. I grew up parallel parking in NYC, so the 4 extra feet requirement is silly to me.
I can see 90% of the people being satisfied with it.
OTOH, after getting the Tesla, I rarely try to squeeze into tight spaces anymore. Don't want someone to bump my bumper.�
Oct 16, 2015
znino I understand 20 feet total. But 4 feet additional is ridiculous, sorry.
It is not just in NYC that you will never find spots that are 4 feet extra. Any urban area with city parking will be tough. In the burbs, most of the parking is with parking lots, malls and scarce cars on curbs. I do not think that 90% of the people will be happy with this nor use it, as it stands now... I guess my point is, there shouldn't be a thread discussing this kind of technology that is already very advanced and used on plenty of cars. I would thought that Tesla would have figured this out a little better
I get the not loving to park in dense areas with your tesla. But in the end, it is still just a car and if I can't use it to go where I want, when I want, that's not great. I prioritize parking lots and parking away from others whenever possible but it isn't always possible
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Oct 16, 2015
Max* I think we're in agreement. (I'll take my car everywhere, regardless of parking situation. I've just gotten a little more picky, when there are options)�
Oct 16, 2015
znino Hey, it's still our baby after all�
Oct 16, 2015
MDK I thought auto park was part of the Autopilot suite, don't hate me for asking but isn't your Sig missing a few essential sensors for that?�
Oct 16, 2015
znino I got a 85D in August (Sold the Sig) but had not changed the Forum signature yet. Thanks�
Oct 16, 2015
ibdb If calibration is the issue, then it makes more sense why a downloaded update would work differently than a car with the software/hardware built in. The "built in" solution would presumably have all the calibration handled before the consumer gets the car, while a downloaded update doesn't have that luxury.
Looking forward to seeing what happens after a few more miles of driving -- I'm quite happy with my own parallel parking skills, but I know that my wife has said it would make her feel more comfortable parallel parking such a large car.�
Oct 16, 2015
chuckd How do you activate auto-parallel park?
After playing with AP a bit yesterday (and nearly getting killed twice!), I would like to test out the auto-parallel park feature. But nobody is talking about this, and for the life of me I can't figure out how to make it work.
Anybody tried it? How did you activate it if so? Thanks!�
Oct 16, 2015
gaucho20 I couldn't get mine to active either. It is very specific, apparently, and the type of curb is important. There is a long thread on this in driving dynamics section. But, know that you are in the majority.�
Oct 16, 2015
AziwA sorry dont know the answer to the parking... but could you expand on what happened with the almost getting killed part? :scared:�
Oct 16, 2015
chuckd At the risk of hijacking my own thread, I tried it on a divided highway with clear lane markings. This road expands at each crossing to three lanes (added a turn lane). The car would follow to the right, get near the shoulder line then jerk hard left. Almost sent me head on into a car that was in the center lane waiting to turn.
It happens every single time on this type of road. Obviously this isn't where it's supposed to be used.�
Oct 16, 2015
Footbag Check out this thread for some tips and videos. Very dependant on the type of curb you are near.�
Oct 16, 2015
Footbag Agreed. I would suggest Tesla show something on the IC (when going at the slow speed needed for autopark) that confirms if it sees an appropriate curb (or better yet, fix it <if possible> to work with more curb types>). I think that one item would be a fundamental improvement that would make using the system much more user friendly. Oh, and make the P stand out much more obvious, as it is really kind of annoying to be driving in a 'looking for parking' capacity AND be looking down at the IC all the time... these are situations where cars pull out or dogs/kids run out, eyes should be on the road as much as possible (heads up display is REALLY going to help Tesla out as they move further with autopilot, imo).
It already works at what I (for what it is worth) think is an appropriate lateral distance from the parked cars, so that should be straight forward.
Slow speed makes sense.
Oh look, a big P, I can park here!
K, having to know to put car in reverse isn't ideal, but it isn't horrible.
From there, the car does a good job, putting buttons and status front and center for the driver.�
Oct 16, 2015
Max* Do you have a better suggestion?�
Oct 16, 2015
GregTexas Another video I found. Parking at the end.
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Oct 16, 2015
Footbag I hope the advice on this thread worked and that you were successful. It is pretty magical (if not nerve wracking worrying about curbing the wheels).
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Not really LOL. I haven't had much experience with other self park systems. Did an auto park in a ford once. If I recall correctly, there was no user intervention required, like Tesla, drive by the spot. I think the difference was each time it found a potential spot, the touchscreen gave you a button to press to start autopark (rather than putting it in reverse to start the process). I like that idea in concept, so long as the touchscreen doesn't keep popping up with 'do you want to park' when you DON'T want to park, as maybe you are just driving by parked cars at a slow speed. Not sure how to prevent 'false positive' prompts to park in that scenario (and I don't recall how Ford handled it).�
Oct 16, 2015
msnow I couldn't get it to work at all yesterday. This morning after reading some tips from users here on TMC I finally got it to work. The trick for me was pulling up even to or even slightly in front of the forward parked car. Also the little gray "P" on the dash isn't that easy to see.�
Oct 16, 2015
Footbag I am curious as to the thoughts of others on the following: Curb type seems to be an issue... any chance the height of the car (for those with adjustable suspension) makes a difference? I just thought of this, haven't had a chance to try it. I doubt it would, as the between highest and lowest is pretty small, and in most situations, people's cars are likely already at Normal when trying to park, so minimal change. What say TMC?�
Oct 16, 2015
msnow My guess is that it's a specific right or left rear sensor or two that triggers it. Once those sensors see the parking spot from the right angle it can do its calculations which trigger the on screen message.�
Oct 16, 2015
jlucero do you need to turn on a setting in controls for auto parking? i didnt see any.�
Oct 16, 2015
Footbag No, there are no settings to turn autoparking on/off (although... i'm not sure if auto park works if the autopilot/autosteer settings that do have on/off toggles are set to off?). At low speed, it is always 'hunting' for a spot. If it finds one that qualifies, a P will show up on the IP. As noted up thread, the curb type tends to 'curb' the success rate of Autopark.�
Oct 16, 2015
fisbrek I tried it a bunch of times yesterday without success. Very frustrating. Then I watched the videos on this thread (the ones with screen shots inside the car) and saw where the P indicator shows up when the car is ready to auto park. It is near the car icon on the display just above the steering wheel. Look just to the right of the right rear quarter panel of the car icon. I finally found it. The P indicator is quite dim, at least to my eyes. I think it is entirely possible that it was working yesterday and I just didn't see the P indicator, partly because I didn't know where to look. Anyhow, it works like a charm now that I know what I am looking for.
I hope that helps.�
Oct 16, 2015
jlucero hmmm yea, i also cant find the P on a parking spot, to join alot of others who cant as well...�
Oct 16, 2015
Tesla S1 Finally got Auto Park to work! Could be sensors have to get "used" to surroundings. I drove around my neighborhood today with normal curbs and just could not get Auto Park to operate. Read this thread and drove to the front of my house...where it "failed" numerous times today by NEVER showing the Gray P. First time driving tonight, got the GRAY P and it worked!
Mistakes I may have made today for Auto Park to NOT work:
1. did not drive far enough past front car
2. drove too close to cars
Sensitive for me though. Gray P disappears VERY quickly and I was only going 3MPH. How it worked for me: Right when you see gray P, STOP. Put car in Reverse and keep foot on brake. THEN touch screen will show up and you select Blue START button on TouchScreen. GOOD luck to all!�
Oct 16, 2015
brucet999 Why wouldn't it? That's the same as parking in UK and Australia.
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I don't follow your logic. If they can just calibrate the software, then the downloaded would work as well as factory install. Or do you think they drive each car up and down Kato road before shipping them out.�
Oct 16, 2015
JenniferQ I haven't tried this in my Tesla (it rained today and I washed her yesterday), but my MBZ told me there was a parking spot across the divider from me today. Which is why I've never used it in that car.�
Oct 16, 2015
Khatsalano I just went on an after-dinner autoparking escapade. I think I tried over twenty spots on various streets, and got ONE of the attempts to work, using the tips from this thread. When it worked, it was super awesome!! But the other 19 times or so, it was pretty bad. It seems to like a very particular situation with the right curb appeal and surrounding cars. If it doesn't have it, it won't P.
In the one attempt where I got it to work, I was so excited I circled around the block to try it again. DAMNIT c'mon ... it wouldn't do it the second time in the exact same parking spot. Boooo.
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Oct 17, 2015
Soolim I think AP is picky, she wants to park with handsome cars only. Someone who wouldn't hurt her. :tongue:�
Oct 17, 2015
verdee Been trying a variety of spots, curb heights, etc since the update I have not had any success�
Oct 17, 2015
msnow Thanks to your tips I finally got it work too. Much appreciated!�
Oct 17, 2015
jlucero still cant get it to work---irritating. hopefully this is just something new in the beginning and will become more user friendly in the next few weeks.�
Oct 17, 2015
GlmnAlyAirCar Got it to work this morning. Really have to look hard for the "p".�
Oct 17, 2015
jlucero what tip made it work for you?�
Oct 17, 2015
Chort67
I'm in Denver and have yet to get it to work as well.�
Oct 17, 2015
MileHighMotoring JUST got it to work once. Tried the same spot again in an identical fashion and it wouldn't activate. Oh well, at least I'll always have the memory of that one special time.�
Oct 17, 2015
CharlesMW Used AutoPark today for first time - worked like a charm - My wife and Especially my mom loved it. Thanks Tesla !!�
Oct 17, 2015
Ingineer They should add a sound effect each time the P appears. "Ding!" There's a space!�
Oct 17, 2015
JenniferQ Agree! Need to hear it while looking for the appropriate spot. Very hard to look for the P and also a spot that's the right size, near the right curb, between the two acceptably priced cars...:tongue:�
Oct 17, 2015
DougH I love how Marc sits on a busy street making a video.�
Oct 17, 2015
msnow Marc is our West Coast version of Bjorn.�
Oct 17, 2015
steph280 Good idea. Not just any space, but a Tesla-AutoPark-Approved space!�
Oct 17, 2015
Andyw2100 I know this is a thread where people have been having trouble getting Autopark working, and also having trouble seeing the "P" appear, but I really don't think an additional automatic sound is the answer. In theory, that "P" is supposed to appear any time a spot could be parked in, any time you are driving fifteen miles an hour or slower. It doesn't happen only when a mode is set. If you add a sound, as it stands now, people would be driving around, often not looking for parking spots, with the car making unwanted sounds constantly. That really wouldn't make any sense.
I could see a couple of ways Tesla could improve the "P" notification, though. One would be to do something graphically, so make the "P" stand out a little better on the display. (I haven't looked for it yet myself, but from what I've read, it can be difficult to see.) Another possibility would be to add an --OPTIONAL-- sound so that when we are looking for a spot we could enable the sound alert, but we'd still have the ability to disable the sound most of the time, when we're just driving around, not in search of a parking spot. But adding a sound without the ability to disable that sound would not be the way to go, as that would just be annoying.�
Oct 17, 2015
JenniferQ That!^^
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Yes, I can see how I might feel the same if I had ever seen the P. No matter how slowly I drove, or how far I pulled up, as suggested by some on here, I could never see a P. In the MBZ I get the P all the time, even all the way across the road, so I'd never want a "Ding!" in that car. Just wish I could actually use this feature in the Tesla. It's hard driving round and round, slowing down, signaling, waiting for the P to appear, and it never does.�
Oct 17, 2015
ar4c I tried to use AutoPark in about 15 different ideal parallel parking scenarios. No joke, it FINALLY let me try it once. I circled around, and after trying two more times in the EXACT SAME SPOT using the "tricks" mentioned here.. nothing happened. AutoPark is a complete joke. How did this pass the early access program testing? I have used this without even thinking about it in other cars. Even a Jeep Cherokee. The blind spot sensors and now AutoPark really makes me think Tesla is just cutting corners and rushing things out there. Seriously Elon.. you are a smart guy, but I am embarrassed for you when it comes to AutoPilot.�
Oct 17, 2015
Andyw2100 In all likelihood, Tesla will improve upon the software, and the "P"s will start showing up much more regularly. If they also add a sound that can't be turned off, our cars are going to sound like pinball machines.�
Oct 17, 2015
JenniferQ Yes, I think the sound could easily be enabled the way many of the driver assistance features are. But if the P were more obvious - in the MBZ it's blue in a square just like the signs on the side of the road designating Parking Areas- that would probably be enough. I see it way too much in the MBZ and never yet in the Tesla. It shows up in the IC, right?�
Oct 17, 2015
msnow Seriously. I'm up at 3:15 AM on 10/15 in my boxers waiting for the update to finish on my car and there's MarcG's fully produced video demo of 7.0 on his version of "the streets of San Francisco". Damn, he was on top of it and showing us!�
Oct 17, 2015
Andyw2100 And as excellent as that was, and as much as we all appreciated it, that was small potatoes in comparison to what MarcG did when we were all waiting for our P85Ds.
For anyone unaware, MarcG was taking delivery before anyone else here, by at least a week, if I recall correctly. He brought a GoPro to his delivery, and recorded the entire walk-thru for us! At that time many of us were chomping at the bit for information about our cars, so doing that was really amazing, and gave a bunch of people a lot more information about our cars a lot sooner than we otherwise would have had it.�
Oct 17, 2015
ar4c That was so great I had 7 of these shirts made and wear one every day
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Oct 17, 2015
msnow Wow, amazing.�
Oct 17, 2015
MarcG Haha don't I wish... no, I'm not nearly as committed to making videos as Bjorn is!! I've watched hours of his and mine don't even come close. Looking forward to his videos of AP when he gets his X! (or gets his hand on an AP-enabled S in the near future).
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I think it was only a couple of days, but that was the least I could do after "skipping line" and being honored with the first P85D delivery on the forum! I was very well aware that others who had ordered before me got theirs later, so it was somewhat of a payback to share my delivery experience with everyone else. That's why I love this forum! Expressed a little better here: 1 year, 1000 posts, 20000 miles
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LOL you guys crack me up!! :biggrin:�
Oct 17, 2015
Nigel Tufnel My girlfriend's Model S has auto-park but mine doesn't, so I was unable to help her try it out. She has been afraid to try it on her own (BTW, she is a stereotypical Chinese driver) but was convinced to do it today at the newly activated Dublin supercharger island at their service center. She got it to work on the Very First Try!
What's wrong with you guys!!?? :smile:�
Oct 18, 2015
SMF Sorry to join the frustration after the enthusiasm wave with the V7 upgrade. Frankly, the Autopark is the Beta and Autosteer is working much better (at least on the highways).
1. The only beef with the Autosteer is that is shouldn't be used on <45mph roads. It doesn't do hairpins or sharp turns well--it over steers and you need to take control.
2. The Autopark is very touchy. Agree with all above--my wife noticed that when it works, about 1 out of 5-10 times; a little black car appeared alongside the dashboard image and then the magical "P" appeared.
3. Since the Autopark doesn't work either in front or behind a single parked car--it drops the number of times you would ever use it. Makes no sense to me and should be fixed in the next upgrade.
But..........its a good start�
Oct 18, 2015
LetsGoFast Why would you need it if there is only a single parked car?�
Oct 18, 2015
SMF Short street, or driveway, or dumpster.........plenty of examples. If it works it works.......�
Oct 18, 2015
peteyswift The ratio of cars honking behind me as I look for the unicorn spot to successful autoparking = 7/0. As mentioned above they should at least have a sign pop up in the IC opposite the usual speed limit sign (on the right) that looks like this:
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Oct 18, 2015
Griffinlair I must have had more luck in finding spots that my car can recognize than the majority. I've tested it a total of 3 times so far, all three successful. I started with a space that was quite large between cars, big enough that I figured it wouldn't work from the discussions here. I could have just pulled forward into the spot. Anyway, it worked. My mother was in the car with me and said " that is the coolest thing ever". I then tried two more places that were progressively tighter, both worked flawlessly. The final one was fairly tight, it parked much more slowly than the first two. Maybe a foot of clearance front and back.
all three had square sidewalk curbing. I had to pull farther past the lead car than I would have thought necessary. I didn't cloud the parked cars, just regular distance like I was driving down the road. And it worked fine both on left side and right side parking. The first two were on the left the last on the right.
the "P" is fairly hard to notice, but thanks to you guys, I was watching closely for it, and saw it.
i don't know if it mattered but I did use my turn signal each time, but until after I saw the "P".
i found the distance from the curb to be ideal, just a few inches, but no issue with scraping my tires or rims.�
Oct 18, 2015
bigdomer I asked the local sales/service center for an autopark tutorial yesterday. The reply was along the lines of one of the earlier threads that the car needs more miles on it under v7 in order to "learn" how to autopark in my particular environment. Guess we'll see.�
Oct 18, 2015
garygid If Creep is turned On, does the just-parked car come to a complete
stop by engaging Park mode?�
Oct 18, 2015
MileHighMotoring Yes�
Oct 18, 2015
Ingineer Bmah and CleanPower suggested in the Firmware 7.0 thread that Tesla restore the AP/TACC on/off toggle button on the end of the control stalk. (Right now it doesn't do anything) When pressed, it would shut off AP/TACC and then display the somewhat original non-AP UI with the speedo/power dial. When it's toggled back on though, the "ding" parking space alert would then be enabled when it sees a spot and you are driving at or below 15mph.�
Oct 18, 2015
verdee Success. I have been trying to get auto parking to work since day 1 and have had zero luck. I was just driving home, same neighborhood I have been trying, and suddenly saw the "P". This was on a very low curb, I was not expecting it to work. I kept driving around and I consistently got it to work, even in spaces I had previously had zero luck. I guess the sensors do need time to calibrate.�
Oct 18, 2015
Khatsalano I had my second ]P[ success by setting it up in front of my house using my other car and another car. Is it me, or do you all notice that the proximity to the front car's rear bumper corner on the first turn is DANGEROUSLY close. I'm thinking it's probably under 10 inches of clearance. I guess for a machine, this is plenty of buffer, but for me, I'm getting very scared.�
Oct 18, 2015
msnow Agree, a little to close for comfort for me too.�
Oct 18, 2015
ar4c Just be careful if it is trying to parallel park behind a truck or SUV with a large trailer hitch. It won't see it, and the car will hit the hitch. Just double-check every car you are parking behind before initiating AutoPark.�
Oct 18, 2015
daviddavidw Me too. I haven't had any success at all until today (I got v7 day 1), and all of a sudden today, it works consistently every time.�
Oct 18, 2015
Patrick W Makes me wonder if the system (the central computer at Tesla receiving constant input from all the cars on the road) is becoming smarter by the day.
Not unlike the Borg Collective?�
Oct 18, 2015
jlucero david---interesting. i didnt test it today but i do suspect it will get better with time. i tried on saturday and it worked one time and did not work 8 times. so far its worthless and a joke. hope it gets better soon. does seem like elon would have a pretty good success rate before releasing it.�
Oct 18, 2015
ar4c Just tried it again tonight, now 250 miles on version 7.0. How much "learning" needs to be done? I tried no less then 6-7 perfectly capable spots, with at minimum 20 feet of space, with perfectly sculpted and visible curbs. Driving 2 ft from cars on side of road, 10-12MPH.. Was the humidity levels to high? Perhaps the moon not in the right orbit? It seems this is WAY too touchy and picky. I seriously think this is a massive oversight.
autosteer worked great though.�
Oct 18, 2015
Gr8pursuit Does anyone that is having problems with auto-park have a clear bra on there front bumper that is covering up the right front parking sensor? Maybe that is why mine is not working?�
Oct 18, 2015
Tuan Took me a few tries, but finally got it to work. Some spots don't work for some reason.
Autopark - Teslas parallel parking software v7 in action - YouTube�
Oct 19, 2015
Ingineer If any of you have had a clear bra protective coating such as Xpel, 3M, ClearBra, etc. applied, I'd recommend peeling it off the 12 ultrasonic transducers on your car. The surface of the transducer needs to vibrate many tens of thousands of times per second. If the polymer coating is covering it, it will damp these return vibrations and definitely reduce the range and sensitivity of the transducer.
As you can see from this diagram; the 4 side sonar transducers, which are the two just behind each rear wheel (on the quarter panel) and the other two just in front of each front wheel on the edge of the wheel opening, are critical for location of the curbs for autoparking. Be sure these sensors are clean and uncovered if you expect the autoparking system to function correctly .�
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