Thứ Sáu, 27 tháng 1, 2017

What is Tesla doing now concerning the M3? part 1

  • Aug 18, 2016
    Garlan Garner
    Anyone know what Tesla is doing concerning the M3?

    Is it going to be this quiet for the next 18 months?
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  • Aug 18, 2016
    S'toon
  • Aug 18, 2016
    trils0n
    Essentially they are going through the process of making a new car. That includes testing components and the car, building and testing the factory, making sure their suppliers have their stuff in order, etc.

    At some point they will start road testing beta prototypes and release candidates, and then things will pick up with sighting threads (and rampant speculation based on sightings), but for now most of the effort will be in building the factory and doing all the routine testing and supplier work, and that isn't visible.
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  • Aug 18, 2016
    Odebek
    The next public announcement is supposed to be at year end...
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  • Aug 18, 2016
    JeffK
    I wonder if that uber announcement today will affect the timeline. Granted uber is not selling autonomous cars and there'll be two people in the front seat of their autonomous cars for the trial. It would still be nice for Tesla to get that announcement out there.
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  • Aug 18, 2016
    BluestarE3
    Other than rumors, speculation, minor leaks from suppliers, and tantalizing tweets from Elon, I don't expect to learn anything new of significance until Reveal 2.
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  • Aug 18, 2016
    Garlan Garner
    It's going to be a very frustrating year.

    Maybe next time Tesla should take deposits much later than they did this time.

    To hold $1K for 2 years is a long time.
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  • Aug 18, 2016
    Garlan Garner
    I'm losing my interest in these reveals. I'm starting to feel like Teslas rich people are teasing reservation holding pheasants.
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  • Aug 18, 2016
    BluestarE3
    I guess some of these events may be a bit over the top, but that seems to be Tesla's preferred method for product announcements. Since they don't do traditional advertising, it's their way of generating buzz. I don't worry too much about some select people having drinks and appetizers at these events; I'm more interested in what Elon has to say and show afterwards.

    Then, again, anyone who can afford a Tesla is hardly a peasant. :)
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  • Aug 18, 2016
    Az_Rael
    You have to consider it as part of the "Tesla early adopter experience" or you are just going to get impatient and frustrated. If you think having $1K held for 2 years is hard, imagine those 2012 X reservation holders who put down $5K and are just now getting their cars.

    I actually won't feel like I have gotten the FULL Tesla reservation experience until we have had at least one delay announcement. ;)
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  • Aug 18, 2016
    Krugerrand
    We knew the timeline before placing our deposits. In fact since we placed our deposits, Tesla has moved up the timeline of the Model 3 because demand was so great. If Tesla had waited to take the deposits, they wouldn't have known the high demand, and wouldn't have moved up the timeline.
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  • Aug 18, 2016
    Laban
    To be fair, taking the deposits for the Model 3 as early as they did was probably a necessity. Audi, BMW... know how many cars they're selling/year of each model and can plan according to that for next years model(s). And they have the factories, parts manufacturers on board already. Tesla was in a different position before they had the 370k Model 3 reservations.

    But it will be different with the Y. The Gigafactory will be online, they know what the demand is.
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  • Aug 18, 2016
    TaoJones
    2 years? 2 years is nothing. Nothing! (Dustin Hoffman voice - Wag the Dog)
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  • Aug 19, 2016
    Dan Detweiler
    We can't have our cake and eat it too. When we made our reservations we all knew very well what the timeline would be. In fact, originally it was going to be two MORE years until we had anything definite. I think it's more than a little unfair to all of the sudden expect something to change just because we are getting impatient. We have to put our big boy pants on, suck it up, and realize that we all signed on to a long term project.

    Take up painting...or yoga...or Zen meditation maybe.

    Dan
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  • Aug 19, 2016
    vitz
    I'm not sure that the prediction that the 2nd reveal will be this year. With the S and the X, wasn't the final unveil event a lot closer to the release date? I'm thinking the second reveal will happen 3 months before production is due to start so people can configure their cars, they can be sorted into batches and production can start.
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  • Aug 19, 2016
    Neohippy
    I have been waiting for this car to come out for much longer then 2 years. We are on the homestretch and I don't mind waiting. It gives me something to look forward to. I haven't been this excited about a car in many years
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  • Aug 19, 2016
    Garlan Garner
    Thanks everyone. I'm wonder what the feelings will be like a year from now when the car still isn't available.
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  • Aug 19, 2016
    CuriousG
    Could be worse as was the case for people waiting on Model X when they first introduced it.
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  • Aug 19, 2016
    malcolm
    We'll be marvelling that you've managed to stay so irritated for so long.
    Kinda inspiring.

    What's your secret? High blood pressure? Fox News?

    Doesn't mix well with Tesla time. :)
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  • Aug 19, 2016
    el crucero
    Sir, I consider that an affront! I'll have you know that I am a reservation holding turkey! :oops: Where did all those pheasants get their $1000 reservation deposits? o_O
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  • Aug 19, 2016
    Mark C
    Agreed on a very frustrating year. And, I knew that going in.

    To keep the $1k for two years in perspective, my credit union pays .15% (yes 15/100ths of 1%) interest on normal savings. So, by giving Tesla my $1,000.00 for 2 years will cost me $3.00 in lost interest earnings. I'm okay with that. I got more than 3 bucks satisfaction when my thanks for the reservation note and Model 3 sketch showed up in the mail.
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  • Aug 19, 2016
    scaesare
    That will depend on if the depositor was paying attention and/or making an emotional decision vs. a logical one.
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  • Aug 19, 2016
    Neohippy
    I'm wondering when I'm configuring my M3 with Ludicrous mode if that's going to be a logical vs emotional decision.
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  • Aug 19, 2016
    cronosx
    Since the ludicrous mode it's after all useless, save for the emotional pleasure, i would say that would be an emotional decision for sure :D
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  • Aug 19, 2016
    Garlan Garner
    I believe you and everyone here understands my premise. Let me say this ( in humor ):

    If Bill Gates woke up with Oprah Winfrey money...he would jump out of a window.
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  • Aug 19, 2016
    Krugerrand
    Hang on.

    *scroll up to my previous post*
    *copy it*
    *open notepad*
    *paste it*
    *save it under 'For when Garlan Garner asks the same question a year from now*

    Okay, we're good.
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  • Aug 19, 2016
    Garlan Garner
    LOL - oh yeah.... spend more money ....
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  • Aug 19, 2016
    Garlan Garner
    Calm down.... I'm aware of all of the facts... however it does not mean I'm pleased with my decision. Over time....maybe others may not be either. If time doesn't matter to you then great. I ain't mad at you.
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  • Aug 19, 2016
    Krugerrand
    1) I am calm. Note I'm not the one already fussing over the wait time I signed up for, nor will I be fussing about it in a year's time.
    2) It was a joke. My apologies for not having your sense of humor. Blaming that wholly on my parents.
    3) If you're not pleased with your decision, make another that will please you.
    4) Of course time matters. I'm not sure my current vehicle can remain operational until 3-Day, but I've got the duct tape waiting. The fact remains we all knew what we were getting into before we made the deposits AND the time frame has actually SHORTENED since we made those deposits. So, um...don't get your angst.
    5) I ain't mad at you, either.
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  • Aug 19, 2016
    scaesare
    I think it may be adrenaline based. ;)
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  • Aug 19, 2016
    dsvick
    Perhaps you've not heard of them impending zombie apocalypse.....
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  • Aug 19, 2016
    ItsNotAboutTheMoney
    Since nobody realistically expects the car to be available in August 2017, the feeling will depend on the signs of progress.

    Frankly, I'll be happy in August 2017 if:
    1) Tesla isn't bankrupt or heading to bankruptcy at that point.
    2) The Bolt is successful
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  • Aug 19, 2016
    MissAutobahn
    Think positive :)
    We have in the meanwhile almost 3 (!!!) month


    maybe you buy some tons of bubble wrap to play with the next time? ;)
    http://www.virtual-bubblewrap.com/bubble-wrap.swf
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  • Aug 19, 2016
    EXOTIC1
    Fox news makes my blood pressure rise with all the pretty co hosts:D
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  • Aug 19, 2016
    Ciaopec
    My guess is you will be happier that you have moved up in line when some of the "pheasants" in front of you lose their spot on the reservation holders listo_O around hunting season/thanksgiving.

    edit: @el crucero beat me to the punch! No typo goes unnoticed or unpunished:)
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  • Aug 19, 2016
    Garlan Garner
    Well, I hope that there is something that will help me drum up some motivation or something that will last over a year.

    Maybe picking it up in Nevada will allow delivery in 2017.
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  • Aug 19, 2016
    nexsuperne101
    I was a Model 3 reservation holder, but put my reservation towards a new S60D for later this year.
    That said, I watch with interest for the Tesla ute. If it is anything like the Ozzy Ford Falcon ute for performance, it will be completely bonkers (and yes, I will definitely want one of them).
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  • Aug 19, 2016
    Garlan Garner
    Do you still have your M3 reservation? If so.... What are you going to do with your MS when the M3 arrives?
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  • Aug 19, 2016
    Trev Page
    They're currently building the tooling for the factory and starting the prep work to build the assembly lines etc...

    The process will take 9-10 months so don't expect too much news from them. I hope they'll put out a timelapse of the assembly line expansion like they did for the 2014 expansion, that would be cool.

    Tesla will be quiet on Model 3 progress until the second reveal. That should happen sometime in late spring I think. Expect to see beta vehicles running around at about that time too. This program is moving along faster that any other car they've made so far so we'll see.
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  • Aug 19, 2016
    wilhelmspencer
    <Soapbox>

    I am assuming you mean Peasants instead of Pheasants. As referring to us "poor" folk as large long-tailed game birds in this context just wouldn't make sense.

    I am trying hard not to be offended that you refer to a Model 3 reservation holder as a peasant. I am certainly not "rich" but I have worked hard for what I have. And I proudly put down $1K of my own money to help fund the only brand new car I will probably ever buy.

    For this...enjoy Dislike x2 :)

    </Soapbox>
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  • Aug 19, 2016
    nexsuperne101
    No more M3 reservation unfortunately.

    I tend to buy my cars and run them into the ground, so I will keep the MS for maybe 10 years, by which time the Tesla ute will be out, with the VW electric camper, the BMW iWhatever, Ford, Chevy, Nissan and a multitude of others that have only just realised that perhaps EV is the only way to really go.
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  • Aug 19, 2016
    Garlan Garner
    Come on people.

    You really don't get what I'm saying or are you just trying to argue? I'm not comparing my income to $0 as you are doing. Its relative.

    The difference between Elon type money and my money is equivalent to ME being a peasant. It doesn't mean that I'm poor. I'm far from poor, however I'm immensely further from Elon type money.

    Oprah Winfrey is a peasant compared to Bill Gates.

    Come on.....please.
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  • Aug 19, 2016
    nexsuperne101
    always spend a fiver more than you earn, after all, life is for living!
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  • Aug 19, 2016
    BluestarE3
  • Aug 19, 2016
    eisbock
    .15%!

    Lucky! My credit union gives me .05%... I have to open a MM with $10k to get .15%.
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  • Aug 19, 2016
    ecarfan
    Garlan, when I made your $1K reservation, did you seriously think that you would have a Model 3 in your garage a year later? If so, I would like to know what information you had that led you to believe that would happen.

    If not, when did you expect to receive your 3? At the March 31st reveal Elon stated Model 3 production would begin in 2017. You read TMC closely, and you know that at the earliest production will not begin until summer 2017, and the first cars would be delivered to Tesla or SpaceX employees with reservations, than the next cars would be to current owners on the US West Coast, than current owners on the US East Coast, and so on. You are neither a Tesla/SpaceX employee or a current owner. It is clear that you will not get your car for quite a while.
    . I know you meant to type "peasants". But I think your statement is unreasonable based on readily available public information about which Model 3 reservation holders will receive their cars first.
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  • Aug 19, 2016
    Krugerrand
    I've been preparing for that as well by watching every zombie related movie/TV series and reading every article/book/magazine/comic on the topic. You never know when all that information might come in handy.
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  • Aug 19, 2016
    xav-
    I guess not. All that they talk about is space X or the minibus in 2030 or something.

    It would be nice if they could focus more on the current products (and not forget about the model s) and the model 3.
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  • Aug 19, 2016
    Twiglett
    is this a five minute argument or the full half-hour?
    :D
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  • Aug 19, 2016
    Garlan Garner
    That's a decent strategy.
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  • Aug 19, 2016
    Warrentt
    The way I look at this is more time for me to finds way to make money for the down payment. I need all the time I can while hoping my car won't die before then.
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  • Aug 19, 2016
    Garlan Garner
    I suppose you are correct on some statements.

    I do wonder who will receive their M3's first. Line Waiters? People on the west coast? I'm thinking that people on the west coast who waited 2 days to put in a reservation will receive theirs before those who waited in line on the east coast. Anywhoo..... There is nothing anyone can do about that.
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  • Aug 19, 2016
    Garlan Garner
    I hear ya on that one. I hope you are able to struggle through a big down payment.
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  • Aug 19, 2016
    Az_Rael
    I know we all are kind of having a bit of fun with the OP, but I'll be honest that the excitement has gotten to me enough that I am now shopping CPO Model S's and I may purchase one of those soon.

    If I do, my level of impatience with the wait for the 3 will be significantly reduced, I expect. I plan to keep my reservation, but I may not configure immediately anymore once my turn is up if the current production schedule is met.

    (Admittedly, I am half expecting Tesla to not meet their goals again, and if that happens, at least I will have been enjoying my S for several years while I wait. )
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  • Aug 19, 2016
    el crucero
    I guess it's a matter of whether you have big hands or small hands! :eek: I don't need no stinkin' ludicrous mode. ;)
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  • Aug 19, 2016
    Garlan Garner
    Great. That moves me up by 1.

    Only 100,000 to go.
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  • Aug 19, 2016
    Az_Rael
    LOL, it only moves you up by one if I don't configure. Otherwise I am still way ahead of you being in California.
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  • Aug 19, 2016
    Garlan Garner
    Aaarrrrgggghhhh.

    Come on....you know you want that MS. Its a beautiful car. Its fast and gorgeous. Its been rated the best car this year by many magazines. Its just fantastic. Just think...you could be driving a Tesla in 3 months.

    ( hmmm, I wonder if that did it ).
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  • Aug 19, 2016
    Garlan Garner
    Tesla should schedule configuration times based on where you are going to pick up your M3.

    I'm certainly going to pick mine up in fremont. This year California taxes are almost identical to Illinois Taxes. If that holds true through 2017...I'm picking it up there. ( fully loaded ). All options.
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  • Aug 19, 2016
    ItsNotAboutTheMoney
    Watch out. It's usually not as simple as pay-in-California-don't-pay-in-home-state.

    Paying in California will likely exempt you from Illinois sales/use tax, but it might not exempt you from local use tax.
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  • Aug 19, 2016
    Garlan Garner
    I don't understand. What is a local use tax?
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  • Aug 19, 2016
    ecarfan
    Who is "they"?
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  • Aug 19, 2016
    ItsNotAboutTheMoney
    Illinois Use Tax

    States typically have reciprocity agreements that mean you only pay use tax on the additional amount of sales tax you'd pay in your home state. But if you live in a county or city that applies additional sales tax then you may be subject to that additional use tax.

    For example, if you live in Cook County, you'd have to pay their 0.75%(?) use tax.
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  • Aug 19, 2016
    Garlan Garner
    oh ok. that's not a problem.
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  • Aug 19, 2016
    Odebek
    Cancel your reservation already and let us move up.
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  • Aug 20, 2016
    S?XY P100D
    Consider yourself lucky that you're one of the first in line, plus you're not the only one waiting. It's like asking a baby to be born in the first trimester.
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  • Aug 20, 2016
    Garlan Garner
    Nope. Aint gonna happen
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  • Aug 20, 2016
    Garlan Garner
    What difference does first in line make?
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  • Aug 20, 2016
    S?XY P100D
    Try cancelling your reservation and you'll know what I mean. :cool:
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  • Aug 20, 2016
    182RG
    You need a hobby....other than TMC.

    Wait until the inevitable EM Tweets start, about delays in production. You know the ones about Suppliers getting thrown under the EM bus. It'll be interesting to see everyone's level of interest at that point......

    I won't see an M3 until mid-2020, or after.
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  • Aug 20, 2016
    Garlan Garner
    Really? Lets be a little more adult about this.
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  • Aug 20, 2016
    Garlan Garner
    You are making my point for me....thanks.
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  • Aug 20, 2016
    KJD
    If you guys really want a Tesla today, why not just buy a CPO car. You get a 4 year warranty and by the time the warranty expires on the CPO the model 3 production line will be running full speed.
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  • Aug 20, 2016
    Garlan Garner
    I wish people would read ONLY what I post.

    Let me ask. What post did you see that makes you think "I only want a Tesla"? No one is answering my questions. They are just responding with emotional retorts.
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  • Aug 20, 2016
    KJD
    Stoon answered your question in post #2. You do not listen very well yourself. Go back and read post number 2.
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  • Aug 20, 2016
    McRat
    They are still pricing outsourced parts. I know this to be fact as of 8/17/2016. This indicates they have most the engineering done.

    They are acting like Walmart though on the pricing, playing games with suppliers. Since they might have gotten a bit too aggressive with their existing supplier base, and the units per month are going to climb, they might struggle getting a complete stack of suppliers with redundancy, quality, and true JIT capability.
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  • Aug 20, 2016
    Garlan Garner
    I've asked MANY questions. Thank you stoon and others. I wasn't just looking for one perspective. Thanks to all that have responded to the original question.
    Of course I have dialoged where I disagreed with some perspectives and its all good with me.

    Here is yet another question.
    What is your example of me not listening? I have responded to every response.
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  • Aug 20, 2016
    Garlan Garner
    I agree McRat. The Walmart example is great. Tesla has achieved a lot of success very quickly and they appeared to have hired a lot of experience which is great. I just hope that they aren't too aggressive because their mission statement is absolutely fantastic.
    I am not a car builder or designer and I was just wondering what a lot of you thought as to where they are in their M3 process.
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  • Aug 20, 2016
    Ciaopec
    Question #1 Answered.

    This thread goes on for 4 pages so, no, it will not be quiet for the next 18 months:)

    Is Elon/Tesla EVER quiet for 18 months? Perhaps a better place for answers would be the "Roadster Forum"; see what they did/heard for more than 18 months. Short of that, the question is tantamount to asking whether it will rain tomorrow; whether a named hurricane will make landfall on Cocoa Beach; whether the closing price of the Dow on Monday will be up or down.

    Talk of where you stand "in line" for delivery is fraught with enough variables to make a mathematicians head spin.

    E. g.: Two of us in Ohio had cars enter production at the same time. They were ordered at different times and VIN were not very close. They exited production a day apart. They were on the same train to Chicago. His was to be delivered to Cincinnati; mine to Columbus (geographically impaired please note: Columbus is closer to Chicago). Mine should have been delivered first; it wasn't. Allegedly didn't make it off the train the same day.
    (I say allegedly because that's the story I was told). So this is a very tiny microcosm of what goes on at Tesla daily. To even worry about when your delivery may take place is draining. Way too many variables. (Will a NEW SPACEX employee be allowed to jump in line; how about those new Tesla employees; what if your car doesn't make the batch delivery to Chicago).

    My 6 week wait seemed excruciating. But with out the much longer (years?) waits suffered by the original Roadster owners and the long (months?) suffered by the MS early adopters none of us would be on this forum worried about first world problems anyway.

    I sympathize. But you kind of knew in advance what the $1000 would get.

    For what others, and I have answered, I'd say question #2 is unanswerable to your satisfaction. With all due respect.
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  • Aug 20, 2016
    Garlan Garner
    I am satisfied. Where are you getting that I'm not satisfied? I'm not looking for an answer. I was looking for discussions with many people and get their perspective.

    I've agreed with many people here and their perspective as to what is happening now at Tesla. Why are you assuming that I just want an answer or that there is only one answer. Some people have responded from a financial perspective - some from a design perspective - some from a leadership perspective. There are many people here that have many perspectives. Is there only one answer?

    Yet another question.
    Where are you getting that I'm not satisfied?
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  • Aug 20, 2016
    Krugerrand
    So, um...that's rhetorical, right? You don't really want an answer? Or you do? Or you want us to discuss if you want an answer? Or are we to discuss if you're satisfied or not? Or do we discuss if we've made an assumption that you just want an answer to the question?

    I'm confused. No. Really. :eek:
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  • Aug 20, 2016
    Ciaopec
    Just my take away from the thread. I have been known to misinterpret; I have been know to make mistakes. We all have our frame of reference. We all read/retain/interpret things based upon that frame. So, from your perspective (and mine?) I misinterpreted. No malice intended.

    Perhaps I just need to move on. I like closure. S'toon provided the closure I need in answer to your first question. Others will provide answers to the second question et al. And my closure for the second question: that it is providing discussion on the forum.:)
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  • Aug 20, 2016
    S?XY P100D
    Not being childish here.

    We early reservers ought to be more grateful to already have our place in line, and that Tesla implements an honor system that respects each and every reservation.

    We'll get our Model 3s before we know it. Good things come to those who wait. Peace out! :cool:
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  • Aug 20, 2016
    mhan00
    Then cancel your reservation, get your 1000 dollars back, and buy another car or don't and keep your current one, seriously. If you aren't pleased with your decision, that you made with your eyes wide open, then take it back. Do what will make you happy. If you can't afford to have the thousand bucks out of circulation the next couple years then get it back.

    Tesla has a thousand things they need to take care of before launching the III. As was explained in your other thread asking why it's taking Tesla at least a year to bring it to production after the "pencils down" design phase, it isn't as easy as finishing the design and manufacturing the car. Beyond the ten thousand things they need to do to line up suppliers, bring manufacturing lines online, and do quality control, Tesla also has to massively expand their supercharging network and, by far the most important, expand their service centers and certify more third party service centers so they can actually service and repair their vehicles. Service centers right now are already massively overwhelmed, it'll only be worse with 100k Model IIIs on the road along with the additional tens of thousands of Model S and X cars they'll be selling in the meantime. The many, many issues Tesla has been having with quality and service/repair time have been mostly overlooked so far, though Tesla is already getting a rep of questionable quality control. If the Model III launches with thousands of customers complaining about quality issues and long service times, the brand might take a hit it won't soon recover from.

    When I put my reservation down, it was because I knew I wouldn't need the money in the near future. It's like that 1k doesn't even exist for me anymore while I wait for the car for the next year to three years, depending on delays and my place in the queue. If you can't afford to do that, then you probably should ask for your money back and stop stressing out about when the III will get here.
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  • Aug 21, 2016
    AZ Desert Driver
    Translate please---If my AZ tax is higher than Calif tax, I can save a few bucks by picking it up there? Conversely, if Calif is higher, I should pick up in AZ? and further...if Oregon has no sales tax, can I pick up the car there and save even more?
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  • Aug 21, 2016
    mhan00
    Pretty sure the answer is no. As I understand it, if your state has sales tax, you owe that no matter where you pick up the car and will get charged for it when you inevitably have to register the vehicle in your state. If you pick the car up in another state, you will get charged for the sales tax in that state and will have to pay, but you will be able to offset the sales tax you owe by whatever you paid in the state you picked the car up in. No matter where you pick the car up, you will have to pay the sales tax of your home state where you intend to use the car. But I'm no tax attorney, so don't quote me on that.
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  • Aug 21, 2016
    AZ Desert Driver
    This makes sense - If my AZ tax would be $7,000, and I pick it up in Calif and they charge $6,000, I would still be on the hook to AZ for the additional. If Calif charges me $7,500 and I would only owe $7,000 - that $500 extra is contributed to Calif economy and I don't get it back?
    As I once read Calif delivery, I would have had to pay $6,000 plus $7,000. Seems logical that the states would coordinate and only charge what the registering state would be due...but now we are in the world of Logic and Government and Taxes and Fairness. Sometimes things work out well here.
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  • Aug 21, 2016
    Garlan Garner
    I'm not stressing. Thanks for all of your advise. I'm not following it, but thanks anyway.
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  • Aug 22, 2016
    MiamiNole
    Bored at work, so I'm just now reading through this topic. Had to interject to reply to this comment. Obviously it's because Cincinnati comes before Columbus alphabetically, duh! :D:D:D
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  • Aug 22, 2016
    Ciaopec
    Where were you with that info when I was spending sleepless nights wondering where my car was?
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  • Aug 22, 2016
    Garlan Garner
    I don't understand the dislike button. I am too old to blink at people who take the time to post a dislike.

    Its really funny to me. Are dislikes designed to let the poster know that an anonymous person who you will never meet - hiding behind a fictitious name - does not like what you wrote? Or does it give the disliker some form of satisfaction? I really don't know..
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  • Aug 22, 2016
    CuriousG
    What does it say about you since you have given 11 dislikes which isn't a lot compared to amount of posts. I was really expecting zero given the tone of the message.
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  • Aug 23, 2016
    Garlan Garner
    I don't know....what does it say about me?

    I tried it and have concluded....it doesn't mean anything.

    Is there anything else you want to add?
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  • Aug 23, 2016
    dsvick
    It might just mean that they disagree with you and don't necessarily "dislike" it.
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  • Aug 23, 2016
    Garlan Garner
    Hey...there is a good option. A "disagree" button. LOL.
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  • Aug 23, 2016
    ecarfan
    Garlan, you started a very similar thread less than a month ago
    I wonder if Tesla is really moving as swiftly as possible.

    It is very likely to be about 2 years before you receive your Model 3 (some would say longer). I admire your enthusiasm for Tesla and hope you can endure the waiting period.
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  • Aug 23, 2016
    JeffK
  • Aug 23, 2016
    CuriousG
    Maybe you should have prefaced it with that rather than the tone of the message.

    Or perhaps this had something to do with it.

    Remove the 'Dislike' Button?
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  • Aug 23, 2016
    Garlan Garner
    Oh no....I don't get into things like "tone".....that's totally subjective.

    I didn't understand then as to what the dislike button did and I thought it was somehow detrimental to my account. I subsequently found out that the dislike button does nothing. Now I really don't care.
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  • Aug 24, 2016
    Dan Detweiler
  • Aug 24, 2016
    Garlan Garner
    Now there is absolutely fantastic news. Thanks Dan.

    I'm assuming that that is the M3.
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  • Aug 25, 2016
    Weezer Fan
  • Aug 25, 2016
    JeffK
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