Oct 26, 2015
Hillkwaj US Signature reservation 13xx. Completed configuration on 9/30 and Tesla finalized on 10/6. Configuration is 6 seat, no ludicrous, signature red, 22", going to Texas. Just got an update email from my DS today saying that they are estimating delivery mid to late January. Still no Vin assigned.
Seems likely that they're batching them for production and either my config or location is slowing me down compared to others who configured around the same time.
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Oct 26, 2015
MrBoylan Hmmm... Could be the six-seat configuration, perhaps, as that was a late addition to the design studio. Though I think Mark Z. is doing six seats too and he's in the top 5 sigs. I don't think he has posted a delivery date estimate yet, though I could be mistaken. Mark, if you're reading this, do you have an estimated delivery date yet?�
Oct 26, 2015
Danny985 US Signature reservation 9xx. confi. on 10/1 and finalized on 10/8. configuration 7 seat, no ludi. sig. red, 22" rim and going to tx. delivered in Louisiana. Just got an update email from my DS today saying that they are estimating delivery early to mid January. Got Vin assigned on 10/24.�
Oct 26, 2015
Alec Wow, that's disappointing. Was really hoping they'd knock out the Sigs in 2015.
I guess for us Production res holders, there's a faint hope that they'll start building some production models before they finish all the sigs - putting batching logic ahead of conformity with Sig/Production sequence. Probably not though. I'm mid-2000s, hoping for delivery by March...�
Oct 26, 2015
AMN Secretly, I never expected Tesla to deliver more than a handful Sigs in 2015 but I find it very odd that Delivery Centers started emailing customers with this news....�
Oct 26, 2015
cgiGuy Welcome to the forum!�
Oct 26, 2015
Cosmacelf So, two brand new posters, both of their first posts is an announcement that their deliveries will be in late January. No one else is reporting this. Huh.�
Oct 26, 2015
sub Good catch, I'll remain skeptical until someone with a track record around here reports the same.�
Oct 26, 2015
tonyinc If you are talking March 2017, it may happen. :wink: Even though these times seem longer than we hoped, I am starting to think they may actually be planning on shipping some MXs. Some days you start to question if it will ever happen.�
Oct 26, 2015
MrBoylan Yeah, now that you mention it, very interesting. A mod could check to see if both sign-ups came from the same or similar IP addresses...�
Oct 26, 2015
Hillkwaj Thanks for the warm reception. Reminds me of Reddit. Seems there might be a more positive way to welcome newcomers than to accuse them of being trolls. Moving on.�
Oct 26, 2015
CmdrThor FWIW there is also a member of the Model X facebook page who has reported the same early to mid January timeframe:
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Oct 26, 2015
ludicrousspeed You had an initial warm reception and nobody directly accused anybody of trolling. If you provided any evidence of your order or email stating January delivery this could've all been avoided. There's definite reason behind the skepticism.�
Oct 26, 2015
Beaker This fits pretty well with the model S rollout:
1) Founders roll out
2) a pregnant pause while the founder owners supply feedback and Tesla makes adjustments
3) painfully slow sig deliveries.
4) ???
5) Profit.�
Oct 26, 2015
apacheguy Guys, if it's any consolation, your Sigs will be better because of the delay. It means they are making improvements to the car. I'm speaking as a Sig S owner who wouldn't have minded a few months delay knowing what I know now. In the end it all ended up working out, but still.�
Oct 26, 2015
FluxCap Sorry for the lukewarm greeting, it's just that so many here are on edge over Model X delays that we greet new information from new sources with some skepticism. It's nothing personal. Welcome to the forums though, wish it was with better tidings.�
Oct 26, 2015
primetime I just spoke to the Service Center regarding delivery dates. I was initially Sign X #911 then got my VIN last Thursday and was moved up to #502. I'm getting Signature Red, 20" Wheels, Ludicrous Mode, Black Leather Interior, wtih the 7 seat configuration, no towing but getting the bike rack attachment. I live in Miami and was told today that I should expect delivery late December to early January. I was pretty shocked and disappointed. That means they are making less than 100 X's per week off the line. Don't get me wrong I'm excited to have an X and get early but still once my configuration was confirmed on October 7th, I thought it would be 4-6 weeks at most to get my car now it's looking like 6-8 weeks from today. Well this is my latest update!
Keep on Keepin' on
Tony�
Oct 26, 2015
sub Also, pay much attention to the financial news? There is so much disinformation regarding Tesla it is wise to confirm. You really think there is nobody that would stoop low enough to post what you did just for stock manipulation? Welcome to the forums, it's not personal.�
Oct 26, 2015
mzpolo http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/showthread.php/52935-Production-ramp-up-discussion/page2
Other than the start dates, I am looking a bit more accurate. I threw a WAG for the first 500ish cars taking 7 weeks to deliver. Sounds also like the holidays will cause a dip in production which should be fully expected. An production facility in any industry should expect a decent percentage of the work force to be off that time frame. Many industries (Detroit cars) just shut down.
Week ending # produced Cumulative total 10/2/2015 25 25 10/9/2015 25 50 10/16/2015 50 100 10/23/2015 50 150 10/30/2015 100 250 11/6/2015 100 350 11/13/2015 250 600 11/20/2015 250 850 11/27/2015 100 950 12/4/2015 250 1200 12/11/2015 500 1700 12/18/2015 750 2450 12/25/2015 500 2950 1/1/2016 500 3450 1/8/2016 750 4200 1/15/2016 1000 5200 1/22/2016 1000 6200 1/29/2016 1000 7200 �
Oct 26, 2015
Quant IMO, OP is a short trying to gin up fear on this board ! Pretty transparent ! Even started a new thread with a catchy title, all as a brand new member and poster!!�
Oct 26, 2015
brianman I haven't been paying attention recently. How many Model X Signatures are planned in North America?�
Oct 26, 2015
Lyon FWIW, I checked with my DS today and asked, specifically, if I should expect a January delivery. He hasn't heard anything to indicate that's the case... yet. We shall see.�
Oct 26, 2015
Vger I wish you were right, but I suspect that even this ramp is faster than we are going to see. Not by a lot, but I expect 20-40% slower than this, alas.
I believe the Jan. delivery dates people are starting to get. I am just using Occam's Razor: It is simpler to assume that this is the real story and that the ramp is going slowly, than to postulate stock manipulation with such straight-forward messages from multiple independent sources.�
Oct 26, 2015
ZachShahan I may be wrong, and anyone is free to disagree, but it seems there's simply a holdup getting the back seats and/or windshields. The good news is there seems to be a light at the end of the tunnel. Hopefully it is the final opening to full production.�
Oct 26, 2015
AlMc As long as that light is not the bear train coming right at us I am good with that.�
Oct 26, 2015
Cosmacelf The rumors have been that the seats and windshields are the hold up, but we really don't know. Even if it is just the windshield, so what? We still don't know what their ramp up time is.
What worries me is that the windshield has been described as very big and complicated. It is possible that the windshield manufacturer will never be able to ramp up production, leaving Tesla with one heck of a redesign problem.
Bottom line, until the X ships in volume, we don't know anything.�
Oct 26, 2015
Nigel Tufnel Welcome to the fraternity, where we start with Hell Week. Perhaps it's worse because your location (in Texas?) is essentially undefined but your screen name seems derivative of the Marshall Islands, and fifteen minutes later another pledge posts a similar claim.
In any case, welcome Brother! :smile:�
Oct 26, 2015
Smallfootprint I don't think we have any reason to doubt the OP. Seems similar to what happened with the S. Founders delivered early summer (June if I recall correctly). Sig #385 didn't arrive until the second week in November in NY some 5 months later.
Not that I have a say on these matters but I support a presumption of good intention for new posters. I first discovered this forum when I did a google search for a tesla support group because I was so frustrated with how disorganized my Signature S delivery was. I feel like I was given a very gracious welcome at the time even though my first post had a grumpy tone.�
Oct 26, 2015
Roamer Sig X 309, VIN 265 Ordered 9/15 and Sig 593, No VIN Yet, Ordered 9/24
Call from DS this afternoon. First car mid December second car late December
Identical cars except seats, the first is six seat the second seven seat
Sig red, black and black, figured ash, 20's, Ludicrus, tow and heat.
For the troll patrol I am sitting at the Super Charger in Wickenbug AZ charging a P85D which is my third model S car. Auto pilot worked absolutely beautifully, from Phoenix, on new asphalt with fresh stripes. Absolutely amazing.
When the X's deliver every driver in the family will be driving a Tesla and the old VIN 9xxx car will be parked at a second home.
Then I get to decide if reservation 6936 will replace my P85D or my daughters P85+. I think we will have plenty of time to decide.
Time to roll, I have enough charge to make Kingman AZ then Vegas.�
Oct 26, 2015
FlasherZ 1200 for North America, same as Model S.
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Oct 26, 2015
leh22a Jelly! Super jelly!�
Oct 26, 2015
Cosmacelf Yea! Finally an estimated delivery date that sounds believable. Thanks.�
Oct 26, 2015
Nigel Tufnel These are not the trolls you're looking for.�
Oct 27, 2015
777dgt From my DS:
"The good news is that a VIN assignment does provide an insight into production timing. Right now we are looking at your Model X entering production in mid-November."
My VIN is 0006X
This should allow for delivery the first week of December. Just a guess.�
Oct 27, 2015
scottf200
Model X - YouTube
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Oct 27, 2015
wdolson I believe it was Bonnie in another thread pointed out that the Founders cars are more hand built than the Signature and standard production cars. The delay between delivery of the Founders cars and the Signature cars has to do with getting the last kinks in the automated production procedures worked out. It sounds like they now got them worked out and they are able to make predictions about delivery dates.
If they are having parts supply problems and the seat deliveries are a problem, they can build the cars and just store them until the seats come in. If windshields are the bottleneck that would do more to hold up production because I believe the front windshield goes in before the whole structure is complete.
I was working at Boeing when they started production of the 747-400. Not long after initial deliveries a bug was found in the navigation computer (it couldn't handle flying directly over the north pole) and the FAA grounded the fleet until it was fixed. My group had a small part in fixing the problem and I went up to Everett one day with one of the guys on the team working the problem. They had the production line going full tilt and were parking the 747s in as tight as they could waiting for the new navigation units. It was sort of surreal to see 747s crammed into every corner big enough both at the plant and adjacent Paine Field.�
Oct 27, 2015
MrBoylan Well, that escalated quickly.�
Oct 27, 2015
Mark Z The only delivery dates I see are the posts at TMC. No emails or calls from Tesla Motors have occurred regarding my teenage VIN number. Back in September, I was verbally told by local delivery persons that delivery would occur, "By the end of the year". Looking back, I think they knew best to not speculate on an early delivery. One person did mention that our Model X vehicles would not be leaving the factory until they were perfect.
(IMHO, perhaps the Consumer Reports "recommended" change for Model S are creating new headaches to make sure that every Model X is perfect. This is an opportunity for fewer reportable issues and a future where Model X will retain the "recommended" title.)
On the bright side: Every day of wait for Model X is a day to experience the new interface and performance quality that 7.0 provides when driving Model S.
Unlike other auto manufacturers, we get a "new car experience" with every software update. That is what makes waiting for the next Tesla electric vehicle so much easier.�
Oct 27, 2015
Cosmacelf Easy for you to say, Mark, I have a pre autopilot Model S! I got to use Autopilot one day on a loaner while my car was in the shop. I now have Autopilot withdrawal, I need my fix!�
Oct 27, 2015
ohmman Just do what I do - have your passenger reach over and take the wheel for a minute. Ahhh, wife-o-pilot.�
Oct 27, 2015
mzpolo I am available for adoption....�
Oct 27, 2015
henryp Arizona deliveries in Dec; TX and FL deliveries in Jan? Maybe Tesla is sending them through the Panama canal ...�
Oct 27, 2015
Quant Well, unfortunately I think Tesla's mass manufacturing expertise and experience todate, is more like a Root Canal.....so I think it will be taking the slow winding path through the Root Canal vs the Panama Canal. LOL!
I think, so far, Elon Musk has shown incredible innovation, future forward thinking and tech prowess, but when it comes to executing production and delivery, so far, I think Elon Musk gets a C grade , at best.
Elon Musk and Tesla are woefully behind Apple, and even the legacy manufacturers when it comes to efficient, and super long- term quality 'production' at rates that are required to scale up Tesla into a legitimate auto ' manufacurer '.
Only in that sense, I would say that Elon Musk and Tesla have a lot to prove ..... I am surprised that even JB Straubel seems to stumble and just not have the chops for leading and managing mass manufacturing a la Mercedes, BMW or even Honda. They just have not figured this out yet, and I hope they do in the next 12-18 months.
I am still long and have not sold a share and will not for many, many years.....but I am beginning to think that Elon and JB need to hand over Tesla Auto to Apple, or another company like MB or BMW....I think Stanford and Wharton guys ...and even Silicon Valley guys are phenomenal at tech and innovation, but they are C's when it comes to manufacturing at scale, in a cost efficient manner, where they can generate good margins and sustain long term quality like a Honda , for example.
I think Tesla should focus on Energy Storage ( which will be hugely easier to manufacture at scale ) and hand over Tesla Auto to the non Silicon Valley practical , grind it out everyday kinda folks....like MB , BMW or even Honda or Toyota.
This is their biggest challenge, IMO !�
Oct 27, 2015
sub I'm surprised that so many people are taking these January delivery claims as fact. I'm not claiming the opposite to be true but I still do not see enough evidence to accept these claims. 1-2 days later and still no forum regulars have validated these claims with direct information from Tesla? Still very fishy to me.�
Oct 27, 2015
Mark Z I have a Signature S without any sensors. I am pleased with the interface and performance differences in 7.0 even with the older Model S.
I had to drive a friend's Model S to experience Autopilot.�
Oct 27, 2015
Gerasimental True, but I also find it very odd that people with VINs into the 500s (I think) have been given delivery estimates, but Bonnie hasn't yet? Firmly in 'I'll believe it when I see it' mode.�
Oct 27, 2015
Cosmacelf OK, just got off the phone with my delivery specialist. I'm signature VIN #22x. Here's the scoop (these are quotes, or closely paraphrased quotes):
- Vins are not a reliable indicator of production order.
- The goal is some Signature deliveries in December, all Sigs by early 2016.
- Factory tours in December are still a go.
My take: Sounds like a small number of Model X will be delivered no earlier than December (no deliveries in November). The vast majority of Sig owners will be waiting until sometime in 2016.�
Oct 27, 2015
vandacca I don't think anyone can disagree with your @Quant. However, I do believe that Tesla can improve and does intend on improving. Their attitude from the beginning was let's figure this out as we move along, and not worry about mistakes along the way. It's the "Move fast and break things" attitude. I think they'll get it in the next 5 years. They have to get there if they plan to be successful with Model 3.
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Oct 27, 2015
aesculus Doing Tesla date math and normal 'early 2016' statement deduction, this could mean end of March or if you want to get extreme, end on June.�
Oct 27, 2015
chickensevil And yet, every day that goes by and they don't get any promising news of something *sooner* than what is reported makes those dates even more likely. Consider that they have to give owners enough time to sort out financing, so at least a 30 day notice of delivery, this indicates to me that at this time Sig #2 is not likely to get delivered until November 27th at the earliest... So therefore the December deliveries make sense at this point for *some* of the cars, with the rest slipping into January. I don't like it anymore than most everyone else here, but I think this is the reality we are going to have to live with�
Oct 27, 2015
ohmman The ghost of AnxietyRanger just showed up to tell me the ghost of Eds came by and whispered "told you soooooooooo...."�
Oct 27, 2015
uselesslogin So about 100 Model X this year? If we believe what some have said everything is going to the most recent plan it is just that it hasn't been publicly disclosed.�
Oct 27, 2015
Gerasimental Absolutely agree with you. I am merely confused by the complete chaos and inconsistency of communication and information we have got. To what extent this can be attributed to various parties, I don't care to speculate, but MX progress has sure been a pretty opaque affair.�
Oct 27, 2015
30seconds Honestly I can't follow the logic that Apple, MB or BMW would improve manufacturing scale up. Apple manufacturers computers of various sizes and basically nothing else. Does Dell, Lenovo or HP also have the experience to bring to the Telsa supply chain? In terms of MB and BMW they have had decades to create compelling hybrids and EVs. I have yet to see anything good out of them on either front. Plus their IT is a joke. How many years did it take to get to their currently crappy in car entertainment systems? No internet radio, no cars that upgrade their firmware over the air, hello autopilot?
What you want is a company that can bring next gen technologies to users in a compelling and scaleable package, like Apple, that knows how to manufacturer quality cars at scale, like MB or BMW. Doesn't exist yet, but Tesla is way ahead of everyone else.�
Oct 27, 2015
Blastphemy Can't wait for the November 3rd shareholder call. I think we should all take guesses as to what excuses Elon will be giving for claiming the Model X was "delivered" at the end of Q3 when only six hand-built vehicles were given to insiders to beta test and not one single Model X has been delivered since... not even Sig #1 so Elon could claim "deliveries of Signature Model Xs have begun for Q4."
Ridiculous. I hope Elon comes clean, because I'm starting to question the taste of Tesla Kool-Aid. If the car I was promised by "the end of the year" doesn't show up 'til after June 2016, there's a very real chance of cancellation. I can only wait so long due to the imminent termination of my current lease.�
Oct 27, 2015
Macgaver I don't complain that Tesla is not fast enough, but I think they should not have said delivery-in-end-of-Q3. Apple, you know late, but you know exactly when it launch, and at that day, when you can finally purchase or pre-order, you have a precise estimate of the delivery date.
Tesla have a much more complex product, not sure we can compare both companies. But I am getting tired of the fake delivery date, fake "fast ramp up", ... This is because of them that we have to guess/approximate ourselves and fail every time.�
Oct 27, 2015
FredTMC Yep, Fortunately (mercifully), we will all get updated in a week about Tesla's guidance for Q4 overall and production for MX sigs specifically. I really feel bad for MX sig owners and their lenghty wait. I still firmly believe we will see hundreds of MX deliveries in Q4. Furthermore, I still think tesla has a solid plan to hit 2015 lowered guidance of 50K deliveries minimum. I think MX slow ramp is certainly baked into the depressed stock price along with an expectation that tesla may not hit guidance. Bottom line is that if 50k is reaffirmed during Earnings Call, the stock will move up big.�
Oct 27, 2015
Moparposterchild I understand everyone's anxious anticipation, but for me I would rather wait a few more months and get a better product AND have my brand new Model X be a 2016 model for the new year instead of a 2015.�
Oct 27, 2015
gfb107 So far, all known Model X VINs have 2016 as the model year, including those already delivered. So there won't be any difference in terms of Model year if your X is produced in calendar year 2015 or early 2016.
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Oct 27, 2015
Quant
Tesla IS way ahead of everyone else in every other area....except....manufacturing at scale...and manufacturing with long term quality and reliability. I have only driven MB's and BMW's for over 25 years....many, many of those...4 cars at a time, for 3 of us....and want to buy a Tesla!
So far, only an investor in Tesla, and for the long-term ( and we are not talking a few hundred shares ) ....and I expect to switch over to Tesla in the coming years...AFTER they have figured out quality long-term production at scale.
I do not like having to go to service , except for routine maintenance, and usually trade all my cars in about the 3 year timeframe, on average! I have been very lucky with all my cars for decades...and cannot stand shoddy production quality!
Sorry, but I do not believe that Elon Musk has proven his skills at MANAGING quality production at scale. This requires a different mind set than the innovation and creative mind set of Silicon Valley. Apple has been wise to outsource and manage the supply chain, quality and scale up fast.
Laying out the Model 3 specs and giving competitors who already have scale, and those know how to manage scale, a heads up on design in March 2016 may not be wise, IMO. No more than 1 year, I would suggest!
Tesla's competitive advantage will be the Gigafactory, IMO. This will be their saving grace !�
Oct 27, 2015
mrdoubleb Again with this "hand built" stuff. Where is this coming from? We had zero evidence backing up that urban legend. Just because they are short on certain parts and are unable to proceed with high volume manufacturing as a direct result of that, it doesn't mean the Founder cars were "hand built". We had zero reports on manufacturing issues, as in robots not being able to do this or that, that would have forced them to hand build cars.
Also, what does he need to come clean about? Ever since early September we knew there would eb a Founders delivery event at the every end of the month and they would meet the deadline like that. He has also been Vern open about the supplier ramping issues on 2nd row seats and the windshield, as well as on not compromising quality over quantity on these parts. Every single time he was asked about X production ramp he mentioned these things.
Eventually, though, this should have no affect on Q2-3 X deliveries or they would already be considering changing suppliers.�
Oct 27, 2015
Roamer I have to blow it all, $$$$, before Bernie confiscates it. But then it will be great to have no reason to get out of bed or go to work any more.�
Oct 27, 2015
Conger Take this for the little that it is worth probably not much as I don't have pictures and it was just a casual comment. Last week I took my S in for service at the Chicago service center. I asked if they had any idea when they would see an X. They said that they had delivered their first yesterday. I asked if it was a sig and they said no it was a founders series car. I have no idea if this was a "re-delivery" to Chicago of one of the original 6 or if it is an additional founders car. I follow the forums but not avidly enough to even know to ask for additional details. My X reservation is in the low 7000's and having been through the "wait" twice I am trying not to watch too closely until the Sigs are delivered. I did not see the car, so I obviously don't have pictures and I know this means it didn't happen. At the time I assumed that this meant a number of additional founders cars are being released. After reading the forums the past few days I am leaning towards believing that one of the founders had his car redelivered to Chicago after the introduction in CA. So I am just throwing this out as a potential weak data point to those who are following more closely, and as a notice to those who live in the Chicago area to look for an X somewhere in our big hood.�
Oct 27, 2015
Roamer You must be young. Remember the Apple Lisa computer that was a total bust, then the Macintosh that was hyped and hyped and delayed and delayed. Then Apple fired Jobs and brought in a really smart Experienced CEO to fix the company and all its problems and the company was almost destroyed. Then Jobs came back and started inovation back up and it took years to get back on stride again. Apple has a much more storied and tortured past than Tesla at this point in time.
The legacy car example is an even bigger hoot. Name one that has figured out how to build a decent EV. The big boys all build crap range, doofy looking, grocery getters for compliance purposes. The best of the bunch is the Leaf and it has such crap tech the batteries cook themselves when it's warm out.
Name me one smart company that has even come close to rolling out a world wide fueling system in two years. Incredible.
Is building the worlds largest battery factory from scratch.
Maybe those other companies should ask Tesla how they do so much so fast.
No no one is even close to pulling off what Tesla is pulling off. Maybe that's the reason I buy the cars and deal with delays. No one else is even in the game.�
Oct 27, 2015
MorrisonHiker Maybe the real reason for the delay isn't due to the X but to the upcoming S refresh. Maybe they are just trying to get both out at the same time. :wink:
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Oct 27, 2015
bonnie Honestly, I don't know where stuff like this is coming from. There are prob about 30+ Founders cars and, to the best of my knowledge, those deliveries have been happening. I get regular updates on the status of my X.
When I have a firm date, I'll post it - but I expect a November delivery. The Sigs that have been notified that it will be January are likely further back in the line and/or taking delivery that requires transport out-of-state.
- - - Updated - - -
Exactly. Everything else is talk. I have a Tesla in my garage and will soon have another.�
Oct 27, 2015
Vger Good point. Our first Model S Signature was rushed out in December 2012 and had lots of problems, including a first road trip-ending failure 200 miles from home in a snowstorm on the way to Christmas with my wife's family. On the other hand, my wife's P85D she insisted not be rushed in December, and that it take its time and be delivered with the next-gen seats. It was delivered just in time for her birthday in late January, and has been faultless ever since.�
Oct 27, 2015
goneskiian You might not have pictures, but there are pictures. ;-) ...
Random Model X sightings - Page 14
Random Model X sightings - Page 15�
Oct 27, 2015
GVTesla :biggrin:
It's those pictures that keep me breathing�
Oct 27, 2015
hoskme I'll feel better when I hear that early Sig people like Bonnie start getting firm delivery dates. I'm way too anxious, considering that I reserved only at the end of August. It would be so reassuring to see some production.�
Oct 27, 2015
henryp One of the first six. Mark Tebbe said it was his on another thread.�
Oct 27, 2015
Lyon Though I don't get into it much, my late 2012 Model S was, I think, rushed through production. It's had some issues, albeit minor, and isn't as polished on a fit/finish level as I would like. I understood their need to get those cars out and I love my car, warts and all. That said, I would prefer Tesla take the time necessary, now that folks have stopped doubting their ability to deliver cars at all, and make sure the very first Models X are perfect.
As I sit here in my office, thinking about closing the window because of the diesel fumes from the pickup that's been idling outside for the last 10 minutes, I'm reminded again of how the EV revolution needs to be done correctly now so that it doesn't stall.�
Oct 27, 2015
Fiver There are about 40 founders cars for the X roughly. The 6 high profile deliveries that we saw to make the Q3 deadline, and then more have been dribbling out slowly since then on a very limited basis. The NVIDIA CEO took delivery of his founders model today. No idea what number they are up to. Either way each founders model delivered gets Sig production one step closer.
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Oct 27, 2015
Larry Chanin I'm sorry you had problems with your Signature and there's certainly nothing wrong with having patience and waiting if that makes people more comfortable. However, aren't you jumping to conclusions regarding rushing in December simply based on your experience?
My December 2012 Signature hasn't had those problems. Do we infer from that that yours was rushed in December and mine wasn't? :wink:
Larry�
Oct 27, 2015
Grendal Ooo, triple Tesla garage. I also like his upper storage for his red sports cars.
The Model X looks incredible in blue. Where he will keep this car is anyone's guess. He can probably afford a spare garage if he needs it.�
Oct 27, 2015
Blastphemy I'm sure shareholders will be more than impressed that Tesla was able to deliver a whopping 30 cars over the course of 36 days... assuming, of course, that you're not pulling those stats out of thin air either due to wishful thinking. The day the NVIDIA CEO took delivery, this forum knew. So where are all the other Founder deliveries? As if any of them could be kept secret!�
Oct 27, 2015
bonnie Oooh. Snarky! Totally appropriate.
I wasn't trying to say the shareholders will be impressed. I was only pointing out that activities have been happening, that it wasn't the void of 'only 6 have been delivered and now nothing'. Not all the folks receiving Founders are active on social media.�
Oct 27, 2015
ecarfan Of course they can. Not everyone is a Facebook narcissist who compulsively shares everything that happens to them with the entire world. A lot of very wealthy people are in fact rather low key and private.�
Oct 27, 2015
ohmman Hmmm. What does that make us? :redface:�
Oct 27, 2015
Lyon Don't ask, I don't think any of us would like the answer.�
Oct 27, 2015
ekhozindar This problem may be completely out of tesla's control for all we know. It may be a vendor issue. You know how vendors are. Overpromise, underdeliver.
Elon: hey we need our second row seats by the end of the Q3 2015, can you do this?
Vendor: Suuurreeeeeee! We're the best in the biz, shouldn't be a problem Musk ol' buddy ol' pal!
Elon: great I'll go with you guys
Vendor: you won't be dissappointed!
fast forward to Oct. 2015
Elon: hey we're kind of getting bitched at here by ... pretty much everyone, do you have our seats ready?
Vendor: you'll have them when they're ready, stop calling.�
Oct 27, 2015
ohmman FYI, 7racer in this post mentions that his Signature X (#171) is in production.�
Oct 27, 2015
AlMc Devil's advocate theory (not believing it....but possible)
EM: Hey supplier...We just finished our final decision on the production model, it includes your Gorilla Glass. We need 1,200 units in two weeks...OK?
Supplier: we have sent 15 different prototypes for you to test, which one do you want?
EM: #14, Oh, and BTW, can you rush that shipment
Supplier: Yeah right, you are manufacturing cars now, no one ramps production that fast in our business. BTW: Thanks for your 1,200 order. The BMW plant in SC just placed an order for 5,000 windshields that we already are set up to produce.... wonder whose order we will make first...hmm...we will get them done 'soon'�
Oct 27, 2015
goneskiian This scenario certainly jives a lot better with the long departed Eds' predictions. I believe they postulated that very few X's would be produced this year precisely because Tesla got final designs of some key components to vendors at the very last minute and that it would take said vendors into November to get production of said components up to any meaningful numbers.�
Oct 27, 2015
Kbra
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Oct 27, 2015
Discoducky Tried to figure out his config, but couldn't. Hopefully many will get this update soon!�
Oct 27, 2015
FlasherZ As I noted in bonnie's thread, my DS today told me to expect around Christmas time as a target right now, #744 / VIN 581.�
Oct 27, 2015
7racer
my Sig is 171 but VIN is 116
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Oct 28, 2015
MrBoylan Insane, of course. Unless we can afford to be ludicrous.�
Oct 28, 2015
madodel While I can afford to be Ludicrous I chose to be Insane. This wait is really driving me nuts. I spend too much time reading these forums to try to divine any information. And I'm sorry I ever mentioned to anyone I was buying this car so they wouldn't keep asking me when it was being delivered. ;-)
Mark�
Oct 28, 2015
jasonsc Mark:
Just be comforted by the fact that you aren't alone. I am right there with you. I even know, intellectually, that I am going to be lucky with a December delivery, but yet I still check every few hours to see if there is any news.
I need to face the very real possibility that I will be building up this car to be so great, that there is no way it can meet my expectations...
-jason�
Oct 28, 2015
MX458Dave What a dream setup. Jealous.�
Oct 28, 2015
EchoDelta This ^^
I just say "as soon as it's ready"�
Oct 28, 2015
jvonbokel As a reference point, here's how production of the Model S supposedly ramped up back in 2012. I don't know how InsideEVs got these numbers, so I have no idea how accurate they are, but they seem believable. On the one hand, I would expect the ramp of the X to be faster, because it's their second mass-produced car, but on the other hand, it's obviously more complex than the S.
If this is any guide, we could expect around 140-150 Model X delivered by the end of 2015. The last Founders series would probably be in November.
Forgive me if this has been discussed already, but does anybody know if there are any other series' between Founders and Signature? With the S, they had SSL (Signature Special List) and Roadster Friends/Family, but I haven't heard of anything like that for the X.�
Oct 28, 2015
timf Tesla was fairly open with their numbers during the initial ramp up of Model S. They provided frequent blog updates with precise numbers of deliveries over the first few months which allowed Inside EVs to track data. The round numbers you start seeing around October are when Tesla stopped giving out monthly data and they were forced to estimate deliveries. This time around with Model X it will be much harder to track the roll out since the sales data is lumped in with Model S.�
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