Nov 4, 2015
smartypnz Probably not unusual, but the comment from the officer was "The problem with you Tesla people is you need to put on the front license plates, quit tinting the windows, and show all your HOV stickers." Interesting attitude from a local cop where the Tesla tax is probably substantial due to the factory. "You Tesla People"
74 in a 65 zone with all the other traffic doing the same.�
Nov 4, 2015
bonnie Yep. Exactly why my Roadster has a front plate and HOV stickers. No need giving them an excuse.�
Nov 4, 2015
Jhall118
I used to be a 10 mph over kind of guy. With autopilot, I just set it at the speed limit now and don't care (not in the left hand lane obviously!). Amazingly, I've noticed no difference to my commute.�
Nov 4, 2015
apacheguy Wow, that's so dumb. There is no reason for a front plate and definitely no reason to show more than 1 carpool sticker.�
Nov 4, 2015
James Anders Other than it's the law.
Move to Pennsylvania. Only rear license plates.�
Nov 4, 2015
Jim MacInnes your Wh/mile have probably dropped too. Mine have.�
Nov 4, 2015
bonnie Let me know how that line of reasoning works out for you when you're pulled over.
There are battles worth fighting, that one's not on my list.�
Nov 4, 2015
Electricfan Were you a smartypnz to the officer? Sorry, but I had to ask.:biggrin: I'm driving around sans front plate also, so far so good. I stick with the traffic too, surprised you got pulled over. Wonder if he had a thing for Tesla.s�
Nov 4, 2015
MsElectric I would make it a point to write a letter to the Chief of Police where the officer works and CC the City Council, about the gratuitous anti Tesla comment.
He seems to have a certain degree of animosity towards Tesla drivers and let's see how he likes it when he has to explain that to his supervisors. Seems he singled you out. That kind of comment aimed at a whole segment of drivers is completely unprofessional and uncalled for.�
Nov 4, 2015
FlasherZ As long as you were respectful to him, I would recommend filing a complaint with the Chief, and contacting the city council members. No reason for a public servant to treat you like that.�
Nov 4, 2015
aesculus Duh. You forgot to mention in your note your car was RED too. Enough said. :smile:�
Nov 4, 2015
ItsNotAboutTheMoney And that's why you get called "You Tesla people."
Multiple plates and stickers are to allow for easier identification.
If you don't want those ugly stickers on your cars you don't have to put them on. It's not mandatory to drive in the HOV lane, you know.�
Nov 4, 2015
apacheguy Disagree. Not going to get into it with you tho so whatevs.�
Nov 4, 2015
ItsNotAboutTheMoney You draw the short straw today. Other people speeding is not an excuse for you to speed, other than temporarily to deal with an oblivious idiot.�
Nov 4, 2015
apacheguy If everyone else in your lane is traveling 75 mph and you're going 65 mph it is less safe. Try driving 65 mph on the autobahn and seeing how well that goes and how safe you feel. Flow of traffic is more important.�
Nov 4, 2015
Max* While I completely agree, it doesn't make it any less illegal.�
Nov 4, 2015
ItsNotAboutTheMoney Trucks and people towing have no problem driving 65mph. In fact the towing limit is only 50mph.
If you travel at 65mph traffic will flow behind you because everybody behind you in your lane will also be driving at 65mph.
The problem is not people driving at the speed limit while other people want to speed, it's people who don't keep right. (I'm glad it's just a 4-lane Interstate around here, because 6-lanes leads to idiots sitting in the middle lane.)�
Nov 4, 2015
tomas This�
Nov 4, 2015
MsElectric I agree. The police chief should actually look up all his past citations to see what percentage of those citations were issued to Tesla drivers.
Would you mind posting which police precinct issued you this ticket so others know to watch out for this officer?�
Nov 4, 2015
bonnie Which has absolutely nothing to do with the freeways in the Fremont area. Depending on time of day, it can be completely stopped and 40mph seems like an unreachable dream.
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Nov 4, 2015
AMPd Where did you see the anti-Tesla comment?
A lot of teslas around Fremont, and if most of them don't have a front plate then he wasn't saying anything against tesla, he was merely pointing out that teslas seem to be driving without a front plate
Nothing wrong with that�
Nov 4, 2015
S4WRXTTCS We're you actually doing only 9 over? and somehow managed to get a ticket?
Or were you going faster where the cop reduced it on the ticket to only being 9 over?
I've been driving for 25 years or so where I drive pretty consistently at about 10 over. Which in a lot of cars and including the Tesla is a bit under 10, and not once have I ever gotten pulled over for it. Sure I've gotten pulled over for other stuff, but not that.
In Western Washington 10mph over is pretty normal, but in Cali I imagine 10mph over is the minimum.
As a come back to the license plate comment I would have said "and You Cop people need to stop shooting people who don't have the front License plate on". If it wasn't for that shooting I would have front license plates on my Tesla (With the no screw mount), but now days the very thought of putting it on makes me ill. I don't mind a missing front license plate being some additional thing where the cop pulls someone over for something significant (like texting, or racing, etc). But, pulling someone over just for that?? What a waste. Our roads are a mess with disastrous drivers doing way worse.�
Nov 4, 2015
smartypnz Actually, it was my wife driving. Rush hour traffic on I-880.
Yes, red car.
Yes, she was speeding (law in Calif used to be 'flow of traffic'). In other words, you might get a ticket for going 'too slow' even if you were above the speed limit. - Some older Calif residents still think it exists.
Yes, no front plate, and no complete set of HOV stickers.
Yes, light tinting on front side windows. These will be corrected.
We knew it was a crap shoot and she may get caught on the other stuff.
BUT, no reason for the derogatory remarks - "You Tesla people" - as if we are in a conspiracy. My wife said she was cordial.
So... corrections to the initial Post - Calif Highway Patrol - motorcycle officer Hunter.
(BTW, if you don't believe in keeping up with traffic, try the left lane on a German Autobahn and see how popular you become.)�
Nov 4, 2015
apacheguy OP stated flow of traffic was 74. I've been passed by several CHP doing well over 70. They don't have a problem with it in most cases unless you're being reckless. Obviously this officer had an axe to grind against Tesla drivers and is why the OP was singled out.
Hmm. You drive in San Diego and never go over 70? Interesting.�
Nov 4, 2015
bonnie For all we know, his last 5 traffic stops of Teslas resulted in owners telling him how stupid front license plates and HOV stickers were.
Fair? No. Understandable? Yep.
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He didn't say he never was over the speed limit. He only said that if you're over the limit, they have a right to stop you.�
Nov 4, 2015
Lloyd Guilty on all counts! I don't have a front plate, tinted windows, one of three HOV stickers, and I speed on occasion! :scared: I guess I'm a rebel in my old age!�
Nov 4, 2015
apacheguy IMO, the smarter solution is for the state to issue different plates for EVs. Do away with the decals entirely. Some states do this already.
Right there with you minus the tinted windows. But vastly different experience than the OP. Once had a CHP shout at me "I like your car!"�
Nov 4, 2015
FlasherZ My son is a Special Olympics Illinois Global Messenger (official athlete representative of the organization), and in Illinois, law enforcement is one of the greatest supporters of Special Olympics... very frequently he is asked to speak at the various events involving law enforcement: Polar Plunge, "tip-a-cop", "Cop on Top of a Donut Shop". As you can imagine, we talk to a lot of officers about the Tesla when we pull up in it. Many have seen Model S but have never seen the rear-facing seats, so they do the double- and triple-take when my kids climb in/out.
I have never had one of them make an offhand negative comment about it, most say "oh, I love that car." I ask them to trade me, too bad rules prevent them from letting me take a spin in the "wee-woo" (as my youngest son calls them).
I think the OP has found the exception, hence my recommendation to report him (but also swallow your medicine for the infraction).�
Nov 4, 2015
Skotty Honestly, I don't see anything wrong with what the officer said. Comes off as a little redneck, but that's normal around my parts.�
Nov 4, 2015
ecarfan In California it is legally required to have a front plate and show all three HOV stickers. So your "reasoning" is flawed.�
Nov 4, 2015
CHG-ON Very surprisingly to me, I have also slowed down considerably. I used to be a speed demon. But driving my girl is so enjoyable that I don't mind going slower at all. If you had asked me that before buying the car, I would have said that I would drive even faster. And the funny thing is that I don't mind in the least. Though I will still hammer it once in a while just for sh-ts and giggles. And giggle I do!�
Nov 4, 2015
tomas Wow, four pages on a speeding ticket! Wonder if that cop knew you only had 463 HP? <joke, please don't bring the rants to this thread!>�
Nov 4, 2015
SW2Fiddler What's the Tesla tax?
The comment was absolutely out of line. Assuming that your front plate was mounted and unobstructed.
If front plate was missing, then what happened was y'all reinforced his ongoing observations about Tesla People.�
Nov 4, 2015
apacheguy Oh people are so literal on this forum. Of course it's illegal to not have a front license plate. Think I don't know that? Jeez.
^This. Most cops have no problem with Tesla. Most have no problem driving with the flow of traffic. And, yes, most have no problem with driving without a front plate. The case of the OP is clearly the exception, not the rule.�
Nov 4, 2015
JenniferQ I drove in Austin with no front plates for 6 years, and regularly, about once a year, got pulled over with only a warning "Texas is a 2 plate state." Nothing else. Really pissed me off to see everyone else texting and driving, cause Rick OOPS! Perry said it was our right to text and drive and yet I was supposed to put a front plate on my really nice car that had no room for a front plate. Silly laws sometimes.
Have lived in SoCal now for 1+ year and never been pulled over for same cars having no front plates. <knocks on wood now> And I have a hard time keeping up with the flow of traffic at 85mph! Can't go faster or autopilot won't work. Loving Socal.�
Nov 4, 2015
ohmman I came here to say I believe this is a myth. Every state I've lived in has this same story, and I can't ever find anything to corroborate it. Happy to be proven wrong, just because I'd like to know.
Also, "if you don't like the weather in __________, just wait 10 minutes."�
Nov 4, 2015
dirkhh Except that the law in Germany says that you HAVE to move to the right to let faster traffic pass. No passing on the right. So yes, you'll get pulled over, but not for going slow, but for violating the law. Just like your wife got pulled over for violating the law this time.
BTW: more and more states in the US are also forcing your to move to the right when going slow.
You people give Tesla drivers a bad name.�
Nov 4, 2015
Lloyd Front Plates are required mostly for toll collection. Compliance in California is only about 80%. 16 states do not require a front plate.
Must read for those interested in the front plate controversy http://frontplate.org/blog/wp-content/themes/FRNTPL8/inc/FrontLicensePlateMarketResearch-Comparison_of_FrontVersusDualLicensePlates.pdf�
Nov 4, 2015
KirkDavis I'm not a lawyer (nor do I play one on the Internet�
Nov 4, 2015
apacheguy Interesting. My car operates just fine on the toll roads here. I've been billed by the plate before so it doesn't seem to be a limitation of their cameras.
I doubt the ticket can be successfully contested, but I'm with you WRT your other points.�
Nov 4, 2015
JenniferQ Yes, but they don't enforce it here or ticket for it, ime.
I passed a cop in TX who was going slowly in the right lane and was pulled over by him shortly thereafter. Learned never to pass a cop on that one.
Again, got a warning. Apparently, I pulled over too soon back into the right lane after I passed him., even though as I'd been taught, I waited until I saw his car in my rearview mirror. To which, I told him, "I thought you weren't allowed to drive in the left lane, just pass, so I got back over."
He said there was no law to that effect. Apparently, he also didn't notice the many signs on that highway that said to drive in right lane unless passing. In Australia it is very strict. Here, not so much.�
Nov 4, 2015
Nigel16494 I agree 74 in a 65 in Fremont is a bit excessive. One of the reasons I put on both plates and carefully set the decals was not to give them any excuse to pull me over. My car is also red. I didn't think the red car made a difference in the bay area, it used to in the UK where my father and his traffic police friends played snooker with cars. Since the traffic division were bored, they would pull a red car then black until all reds are gone, then yellow, green , brown, blue, black . Hence red cars were pulled for speeding a lot more than other colours.
I usually fly by the Tesla factory at 80 so I'll keep a watch out�
Nov 4, 2015
JenniferQ I have no front plates and my cars regularly work on toll roads. But, I understand the law.�
Nov 5, 2015
kort677 please help me understand your complaints, you are upset because the cop is telling you about how some owners of Teslas are chronic violators of certain laws, you were moving at a rate of speed over the posted limit and you're complaining about his attitude? the value of the taxes that may or may not be collected from Tesla is most irrelevant. look at the cop as a hammer and Tesla drivers who stand out because of the issues he noted are nails, hammers have one purpose, to bang nails, don't be the nail.
if you don't want to interact with the police try getting into compliance with the laws and regulations.
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there is one huge reason for the front plate, it's call the law. if you don't like the law do some work to get it changed, civil disobedience is fine as long as you are willing to pay the price for your disobedience.�
Nov 5, 2015
AudubonB You're mistaking reality for reason, kort677. I back apache, and repeat his unasked question: What is the reason for a front plate? By the way, it also is statute in Alaska....and there is not and never has been a single toll booth in any of our 570,000 square miles.
Fortunately, Alaskan police have more important infractions to pursue than this one; I never have heard of anyone being cited only for not mounting a front plate (there likely are situations where it gets piled on top of other violations).�
Nov 5, 2015
Max* That's the law in many US states too. Including California, slower traffic must keep right.
I guess it would depend on what type of road is it, but Texas sure does have a "keep right except to pass law". "Most rural interstates are posted "left lane for passing only" pursuant to 544.011"
Source: http://www.mit.edu/~jfc/right.html�
Nov 5, 2015
tenstringer009 From my understanding, there's a variety of reasons. Toll/red light cameras are one (in my experience, toll cameras can take photos from both the front and back of a car, so having both just increases the likelihood that one will turn out clear). Another is so police can more easily identify oncoming traffic. If they're looking for someone in a silver Camry, it's a lot easier for them if they don't have to turn around to see the plate number of every one they drive by. Similarly, it would allow the new plate scanners to capture twice as many plates as it travels down the road than if everyone just had rear plates.
These next couple reasons are a bit more far-fetched, but I've hard them as well. First, having a front plate can possibly help identify hit and run suspects who rear-end someone (the thought being there's a chance that some portion of the license plate number will get imprinted on the rear-ended car). The other reason is that it gives police officers a specific place to aim their radar/laser speed guns.
With all that said, given how inconsistently the law is enforced, and that CA lets you drive without plates altogether for up to 90 days after a new car purchase, I don't really feel like this law should be on the books. If you're going to have it, enforce it, but if not, it ends up feeling like it's just there to generate revenue when cops/meter maids are bored or as an excuse to pull someone over.�
Nov 5, 2015
MorrisonHiker I guess you haven't been to Whittier? Every time I've been there, I've had to pay at the toll booth when going through the tunnel. Also don't forget about the toll roads (and booths) around Skagway during the gold rush. Sure, they weren't used by cars but Alaska has had (and continues to have) toll booths.�
Nov 5, 2015
PJFW8 I am a retired trial court judge and previously an experienced trial attorney. There is simply no point in giving a police officer an excuse to pull you over. Burned-out lightbulbs, illegal tints and no front plate allow an officer to pull you over and under many circumstances convince you to search your vehicle. Traffic officers have told me many times that they realize nearly everyone is speeding. They look for cars that change lanes and for those with illegal tint and other equipment violations in deciding which speeder to pull over. It makes sense to simply Not put a target on your back. Stealth pays
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Nov 5, 2015
WannabeOwner I don't have anything to contribute to the good / bad debate, but as a Brit I'm curious about the views over your side of the pond about front number plates.
Over here we have number plates front-and-back, and they are on the car when you take ownership - no temporary plates and no "getting them later"
To me it seems crucial in being able to detect a vehicle which is breaking the law. Although I'm, now, questioning if I'm just conditioned to it, or whether it is actually helpful. For a car speeding away from the scene of a crime I, presumably, am only likely to see the rear plate.
But our police cars have number plate recognition cameras, and my understanding is that they recognise the plates on all oncoming traffic (police vehicle travelling with flow of traffic, or following a car on single carriageway road, is not going to see many plates compared to the number of vehicles in oncoming traffic). If you don't have insurance / road tax, or the vehicle is stolen, then the police car is going to get an alert, from your front plate, and he'll U-turn and be after you with Blues and Twos on ...
Seems to me that obligatory front & back plates would be beneficial in fighting crime and I'm surprised a) that enforcement is somewhat lax in the USA and b) it is not mandatory in all states. Perhaps I'm missing something and I should be campaigning to have front plates dispensed with over here?�
Nov 5, 2015
AudubonB I stand corrected - thank you for pointing out the Whittier tunnel, which I certainly have been through.�
Nov 5, 2015
kort677 a traffic stop on a roadway IS NOT the place to debate the law with a cop. if you don't like a law do some work to get it changed or you can continue to ignore it and suffer the consequences�
Nov 5, 2015
mknox I think that is almost, if not completely universal throughout North America. Rarely enforced, however. It becomes a problem when you have freeway ramps on the left, which are rare, but not unheard of. I always try to stay in the right-most lane except when passing. It even bugs me when people cruise in one of the center lanes with cars whizzing past on both the left and the right.
Similar in Canada. For instance, Ontario requires them, but Quebec doesn't. I know from experience that it is a zero tolerance offense here in Ontario, but have heard you are less likely to get pulled over near the Quebec border because if they see a car without front plates, it could just be from out of province. Ontario's electronic toll collection system only needs a rear plate (or transponder) to work.�
Nov 5, 2015
ReddyLeaf Agree 100%. After returning from Seattle (and getting used to driving way too fast and with too many people), I returned to our sedate little town and was pulled over in my Leaf for "failure to signal 100 ft before a lane change." As usual, I was not speeding, driving 35 mph in town and using cruise control. I politely told the officer that it had been several "years" (ok, maybe decades) since my drivers test and I didn't remember that requirement. I had used my signal as I always do, but only a couple of blips and then moved over when "clear" (the clear area is much much smaller in Seattle than here, so I'm pretty sure that I got used to the quicker lane changes). I received a warning, proceeded on my way, and then observed for the next 20 miles that 100% of the vehicles failed to follow this law, with about 50% not bothering to even signal. I was not upset, nor do I feel that the officer singling me out. I just think he observed something and pulled me over. Perhaps he was looking for a reason based on the red car, shady area of town, just wanted to have his flashers on to slow people down on this stretch of road, or something else, perhaps hoping for a bigger bust. It doesn't matter the reason, try not to stick out, otherwise be prepared to pay the price.
Unfortunately, Tesla has hyped "performance" and the public has an impression of "excess wealth" associated with these cars. I decided against the red Tesla, just for that very reason. I went with titanium because it blends better with other cars, and many people don't even recognize it. At our local hot rod car show last year, a significant number of people (20-40%) didn't recognize it, until I said "Tesla" and then everyone started drooling and saying "wow". It doesn't matter than over half the vehicles in this area have a higher full life cycle cost than my vehicle (e.g., large premium 10-20 mpg trucks and SUVs that pay $3-4/gal vs $0.06/KWh). Tesla hype seems to trump everything.
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This is the BEST explanation that I've read. A moving police vehicle will encounter and see more front plates than rear plates. Thus, to increase the probability of identifying a particular vehicle, the front plate is required.�
Nov 5, 2015
Electricfan It is? The drivers I encountered in Australia were the nicest people on earth though. I pulled out of a gas station into an intersection, stopped at a stop light. Noticed there was a car stopped on the opposite side, in my lane. Started wondering when the light changed how we were both going to occupy the same lane at the same time. Then realized I was on the right side of the road, which is the wrong side down there. Nobody blew a horn! Nobody gave me the finger! In TX you'd get shot doing that. I promptly panicked big-time and pulled out and made a right turn, again in the WRONG LANE, and came straight into an oncoming car, who calmly pulled out of my way and let me back into the gas station parking lot where I stopped and had my heart attack. Not one person blew a horn or gave me a rude gesture. I'll always love Australia for that.�
Nov 5, 2015
Max* It's fairly universal, but each state has it's own twist on it. Sometimes it's only on large highways. Sometimes it's only if there are other cars around, etc.
And I agree, it's not enforced, but it annoys the crap out of me.
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Nov 5, 2015
mikeash I imagine Australian drivers are probably nice because they know that the spiders or Drop Bears will get you soon enough.�
Nov 5, 2015
David99 I totally get it. But then, why only two plates. Having an extra on each side would help and while we are at it, make it also mandatory to have it on the roof so police helicopters can ID you as well. If they could, they would make it the law to have GPS tracking on all vehicles directly linked to the police so they can issue speeding tickets without having to go out in the field.�
Nov 5, 2015
slevit1md I also live in a state that requires front plates, but I don't have one and don't intend to have one. My tint is 30% all around, which while not that dark, is technically illegal in the front. Fortunately we don't have mandatory stickers here, but wouldn't be using them either, if they were.
One day, maybe a cop will give me a ticket. If they do, I won't be mad because I'm well aware that it's a risk I'm taking. So, I'll just pay the ticket and move on. In Ohio, highly doubt I'll get any anti-tesla comments, since you hardly ever see them here.�
Nov 5, 2015
bonnie Hahah. No offense�
Nov 5, 2015
jeffro01 Um... Yes... It's called the law... I'm sure you're familiar with it...
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Nov 5, 2015
apacheguy Oh brother. Please you're like the 6th person to bring it up. Getting kinda old now... :tongue:�
Nov 5, 2015
jeffro01 LOL yeah my bad... I didn't realize when I hit the reply to quote button thingy that the thread was already 6 pages long... I'd have spared ya if I had seen that first... LOL
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Nov 5, 2015
aesculus One question I did not see stated by the OP. Was your wife in the HOV lane at the time during the HOV restriction period? That sort of puts a bit of a spin on it if others were actually pushing you along and creating a big gap. And technically in some of the HOV lanes you are not allowed, or is it safe, to leave them except in designated areas. So you could make a claim that moving with the traffic, even while speeding, was the safest course of action at the time.�
Nov 5, 2015
jeffro01 880 has no stretches of express lane access currently so it's free to come and go out of the HOV lane. FWIW...
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Nov 5, 2015
smartypnz My wife travels to the Oakland area once a week and is sure to take the TESLA so she can use HOV - I'm sure she was with all the other 74 mph's - in the HOV.
Today, gunshy, she has the cruise set to 70 and is getting honked at and gestures - but what worries me is that she is a danger - an obstacle. She'll get over this - been several years (decades) since her last ticket.
She is guilty of all the things mentioned - we are not contesting - and will comply with all the complaints.
I just wanted to make people aware that they should be careful in the Fremont area and that they may encounter a 'pissed off about Teslas' person on a law enforcement motorcycle.
I cleaned up what he said, but you get the idea.�
Nov 5, 2015
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Nov 5, 2015
FlatSix911 Welcome to the California ... and the CHP! The state is broke, so it's all about revenue...�
Nov 5, 2015
sorka I got a ticket for doing 58 in a 55 on Highway 17 between Los Gatos and Scotts Valley, CA.�
Nov 5, 2015
Gizmotoy I got a ticket this summer for speeding on the peninsula. I have all three HOV stickers mounted, but no front plate. Officer didn't give me any trouble about it. Told me to slow down and we went on our way.
For a couple days afterwards I paid more a attention because I was wondering about not getting a ticket for the front plate. A HUGE percentage of vehicles here don't have their front plates. WAY higher than what I'm used to from Illinois and Ohio. I'm sure I'll get a fix-it ticket for it eventually, but we'll see.
Funny thing is that I requested the car be delivered with the front plate mounted and it wasn't. I ended up liking it and decided to leave it that way. I had already gone through the trouble to mount the front plate on my other vehicle when I moved to CA. It comes stock from the factory with a giant front intercooler, meaning the OEM plate location is way over on the corner of the bumper pointed to the side of the car. It looks all weird. I should have left that one off too.�
Nov 5, 2015
apacheguy Yeah, I'd say a good 50% or more of the Tesla's I see don't have a front plate. But we have a clearly visible rear plate that is easy for toll cameras and officers to see so I don't think the CHP cares about enforcing it. Well, except for this one guy.�
Nov 5, 2015
Lloyd :cursing:I think they are picking on Teslas.... I have not EVER had a plate on the front of my car in California for 40 years of driving. Two weeks ago, I got a fix it ticket for no front plate.:cursing:�
Nov 5, 2015
FlatSix911 Words of Wisdom here ... don't be a target.�
Nov 5, 2015
ohmman It hurt, but I mounted a front plate on my MS shortly after I received real plates. I own HOV stickers but have them in the glovebox because I don't use HOV lanes enough to make it worth my while to mount them. By this I mean that I only use the HOV lanes when I have enough passengers in the car. Yes, there are times when it kills me, but I don't have the stickers mounted so I figure that's the rule. One day I may get pissed off enough to pull over on the shoulder and just slap them on. I doubt it, though.�
Nov 6, 2015
muleferg This is the plate I had on my Mini Cooper. It is not required in NC
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Nov 6, 2015
Max* I had a license plate that said MOVE OVR, after a few speeding tickets, I decided no need to further provoke the officers.�
Nov 7, 2015
aaronw The HOV stickers are not mandatory. I don't have them, but then again, I don't drive in the HOV lane unless I have a passenger.
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CA is not broke. We've had a budget surplus the last few years.�
Nov 7, 2015
cgiGuy So, no window tint whatsoever can be applied and still be considered legal? Asking because I just got a new MS in Texas, but will be headed to CA early-mid next year. Should I save myself the tint cost and suffer through potentially a couple months of baking in Texas sun?�
Nov 7, 2015
smartypnz No window tinting allowed on the side windows of the front seats. Most people have been doing a dark tint on the rear seat side windows and a very light tint on the front seat side windows (to block at least some UV). And, although still illegal, in the spirit of the ruling, front passengers are visible to the officers. But, occasionally, an officer can 'add' it to a ticket for other infractions - and that's the luck of the draw.
So, point of my post was - speeding (9mph):yes - but other things, although nitpicking because of an 'agenda', are pretty much ignored. Stand on a corner to count number of cars with light tint and no front license plate and you will reach 1000 in no time. And the speeding - he could have pulled ANY car over at that moment any cited the same thing.�
Nov 7, 2015
Khatsalano I don't speed. But, the officer is exactly right on all of the other points. My windows are tinted. My front nose cone is clean. And I only have the small HOV sticker in the most aesthetically pleasing spot. He's just correct.
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Nov 7, 2015
AmpedRealtor It's the law.�
Nov 7, 2015
muleferg There was a guy pulled over here doing 75 in a 65 driving with the flow. He ask why he was the one pulled over out of the bunch. Officer said "It like dove hunting. you are the unlucky one.�
Nov 7, 2015
spentan Here in SoCal, I've gone past many a cop without a front plate without issue.
I've also gone past Highway Patrol just under 80mph, without issue. And I'm in a red P85D.
Apparently SoCal CHP is much more lenient than NorCal�
Nov 7, 2015
kort677 the cop cannot pull all of the cars over, something made that car stand out.�
Nov 7, 2015
jcaspar Never have had a front plate on any vehicle I have had. Never have had a ticket for no plate. NorCal my whole life. Have had a number of tickets for other things...:smile:�
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