Jan 10, 2012
Robert.Boston It's hard to imagine how a RWD Model S could be retrofitted as AWD -- simply too many changes involved, from suspension to coolant flow to electrical, and possibly even to the fundamental skateboard form factor. If you need an AWD Model S, wait (or plan to sell your first-gen).�
Jan 10, 2012
JRP3 Agree with RB. Do not expect an upgrade to AWD for 2WD models.�
Jan 10, 2012
Doug_G Suppose you bought a brand-new 2012 Nissan Maxima (say), and in six months Nissan announces the all-new 2013 Maxima with AWD. Are you going to be upset about that? Why would you be? Why would the Model S be any different?�
Jan 10, 2012
AnOutsider It would also generate more revenue from current customers.�
Jan 10, 2012
dsm363 No, I wouldn't. You saw what happened when the options were released. I was just asking the question. I don't need AWD but think that if Tesla is planning on introducing in in 2013, it would be helpful for them to let their customers know. I think it will go into the Model X instead.�
Jan 10, 2012
WhiteKnight (1) Any and every Model S buyer should know that a 4WD version Model S is coming it is only a question of when.
(2) Every Model S buyer should also know that when it gets here the 4WD Model S will be faster than the 2012
(3) I think the 2014 (coming end of 2013) will have 4WD because it will be perfected by then for the Model X�
Jan 16, 2012
Teslawisher Saw this article (Tesla's electric supercar discounted | Tesla Roadster) from today and read a quote from it...
"Based on the Model S�s platform, the as-yet-seen Model X will go on sale in the US next year followed by Australia in 2014. Tesla says it will release renderings and more details of the soft-roader early next month thinly disguised as a �design study�."
Does this mean what we see on Feb. 9 shouldn't be taken too terribly seriously as what we'll see in production? When the Model S was unveiled, it didn't really change too much (in my huble option) in design from then to now.�
Jan 16, 2012
AnOutsider Tweet from Elon an hour ago:
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Jan 16, 2012
ckessel I wonder if people will be lamenting their "slow" Model S performance model in a couple years
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Jan 16, 2012
AnOutsider Same way people lament when a traditional automaker produces a newer and better model? I wasn't upset when the V10 R8 came out, or the Spyders. I got the car I wanted. Can't always sit back and wait for the thing right around the corner.
Plus, hopefully Tesla will find aw ay to upgrade older models (for a fee of course)�
Jan 16, 2012
JRP3 There is always a way to soup something up :wink: Could be as simple as installing a lighter weight, higher C rate pack.�
Jan 16, 2012
WhiteKnight When I read that I took it to mean the opposite. That we would see a vehicle that they're calling a "design study" but that is actually very close to what they intend to produce.�
Jan 16, 2012
AnOutsider Yeah, I saw it the same as well. It's been 3 years since the Model S debuted, and I agree, it hasn't changed all that much. In fact, I'd say there's things on it now (like that dash) that look more concept-car than some of the stuff that was originally on it (except those blue LED headlights).
IIRC, the Model S was unveiled in March 09, and the design was started (again) somewhere around October 08? So deliveries will be about 3 years and 4 months from unveil, and about 3 years and 8 months from when work began ("for realz").
Compare that with the X, and it will be 1 year, 10 months from unveil (assuming 12/2013 deliveries) and probably more like 2 years and 6 months or so from the time things got up to speed on the X.
I say all that to say, we have less time in which they'll be able to make drastic changes than we did with the Model S (going by reveal to deliveries). Couple that with the facts that Tesla is more seasoned now and that they aren't a huge car company that can afford to throw around concepts that won't remotely resemble the final product (volt, et al) and that also leads me to the conclusion that what we see in 3 weeks will be pretty dang close to what we'll get in late 2013.�
Jan 16, 2012
Robert.Boston Not to pick nits, but we're in 2012 now, so 12/2013 is only 1 year and 10 months away. But your central point still stands: what we see on Feb 9 is likely to be very close to what we'll see built.�
Jan 16, 2012
AnOutsider Yes, I think I was editing while you were posting. I had both numbers wrong so I edited it (added a year to both by mistake)�
Jan 16, 2012
vfx I miss the cool 3-D "T" signal marker.�
Jan 16, 2012
vfx Is it soup or supe?�
Jan 17, 2012
JRP3 :redface: Battery soup? :biggrin:�
Jan 17, 2012
Teslawisher WK and Outsidr, I certainly hope you're right. I understand the timing from the S being carried over to the X with some expected improvements in that along the way. When a phrase like that ("design study") is used that I don't hear much (but that could be due sheerly to my own naivety about the industry), it does make me pause.�
Jan 17, 2012
AnOutsider From the green reports article:
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Jan 17, 2012
JRod0802 It was announced during the conference call this morning that at the Feb 9th event, there would be test rides being given :smile:�
Jan 17, 2012
AnOutsider Yeah... I'm not flying back out to the West Coast lol.�
Jan 17, 2012
WhiteKnight I heard Elon say that there would be too many people and only 1 vehicle so there would not be enough time for test rides.�
Jan 17, 2012
Doug_G Maybe just for the press, then.�
Jan 17, 2012
bonnie Has anyone on this forum been invited to the event? I'd like to go! I'm interested in the Model X, would love to see the unveiling.�
Jan 17, 2012
JRod0802 He said there wouldn't be enough time for test drives, so because of that they'd be giving test rides. At least, that's what I heard. Maybe I misheard him...�
Jan 17, 2012
Citizen-T I think he said there would not be time for "test drives" but said that there would be "test rides". I imagine they would be similar to the Model S Prototype event, just a quick little circle with a fully loaded car. I doubt they will get to everyone, but I'm sure it'll be more than just press.�
Jan 17, 2012
JRP3 I heard the same as CT and JRod.�
Jan 17, 2012
WhiteKnight I hope y'all are right!�
Jan 17, 2012
gg_got_a_tesla Yeah, how does one get invited to such an event?! Can we simply drive down to Hawthorne and er... crash the party?! Our Model S reservations can be a reasonable excuse if a bouncer pulls us up?! :wink:�
Jan 17, 2012
Kevin Harney Usually in the past just calling and expressing an interest got you an invite. I mean they really do want to sell cars�
Jan 18, 2012
gg_got_a_tesla Tried that and heard from a Tesla product specialist that it is a very limited, private event and that all attendees have already been selected :frown: Okay, will have to wait for a public event in the future then...�
Jan 19, 2012
Teslawisher 3 week countdown!! whooo hoooo!!!�
Jan 19, 2012
AnOutsider hmm... just got an email... did you?�
Jan 19, 2012
dsm363 Didn't see you posted this already. Started a new thread but it's probably more appropriate here. I got the e-mail as well.�
Jan 19, 2012
Mycroft Most likely all Signature reservation holders received the invitation.�
Jan 19, 2012
Larry Chanin Hi Mycroft,
Yes, probably. A Signature reservation holder that I know just received an email invitation.
Larry�
Jan 23, 2012
neroden I used to think I needed AWD, but I've been doing fine in a FWD car for several years now, and the Model S should be a lot more stable than the average FWD due to its center of gravity, so I just went "forget it".
In the long run I think all cars will go with independent motors for each wheel -- individually sprung with universal joints to transmit to the wheel -- but it will be a while before Tesla does this. When those start being produced in high quality, I'll want to replace my Model S, but that'll likely take quite a while, as manufacturers seem to be very slow about such advances, so I'm guessing it will be more than a decade. :biggrin:�
Jan 23, 2012
AnOutsider Just a quick clarification Nero. The model s is RWD, not FWD, so it may in fact behave differently than you're used to.�
Jan 24, 2012
AnOutsider Tesla in final stages of Model S prep; readying Supercharger network for road trips
This is a tad worrying for me:
I hope it doesn't look weird. SUV yes, minivan no.... What's the in between?�
Jan 24, 2012
stopcrazypp Given what they have done on the Roadster and S, I'm not too worried the styling will be ugly. I think that quote might be referring to the capabilities, more than the styling (kind of like how the S looks like a Sports sedan/coupe, even though it is a hatchback and has all the capabilities of a hatchback, plus more)?�
Jan 24, 2012
Citizen-T I too am a little concerned. I trust Elon's judgement, but they've said with the Model S that they could have done some crazier stuff, but they didn't think the public was ready for it, so they made it look like a traditional car. I hope they don't go too far out on that limb this time either.
Do we know, is Franz doing the Model X design? It would make me feel better to know that he is.�
Jan 25, 2012
WhiteKnight Yes he is. He is the Chief Designer so he does every design.�
Jan 25, 2012
vfx That has been mention before. Imagine the black nose of the Model S being painted the same color as the car.
I would imagine that a new design would not try to emulate a radiator like the S but just use the low down vents and remake the upper part to be stylish and aerodynamic.�
Jan 25, 2012
AnOutsider So similar to this?
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Jan 26, 2012
Teslawisher Two more weeks!!!!
In case anyone was wondering. hehe�
Feb 7, 2012
jcstp
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Feb 7, 2012
dadaleus I know the live feed will be available, but in case anyone wants more close up pictures, I'll be trying to post them in real time from my phone at evlife.tumblr.com. (It's not a commercial site so no one get mad at me please--and I don't have an easy way to post pictures to this forum from my phone.)�
Feb 7, 2012
Doug_G At the factory event I was emailing photos to another list member, and he was posting them - near real time. I'd be happy to do the same for you, if you like.�
Feb 7, 2012
AnOutsider I'm switching to the iPhone for the weekend since it has a better camera. I think I can post right from tapatalk. I'll give it a try....�
Feb 7, 2012
dadaleus Neat. I think I'll stick with just posting via Tumblr since it's so easy, but feel free to repost those here if you have a chance. I may check out tapatalk though. (Thanks AnOutsider.)�
Feb 8, 2012
efusco Probably someone's already posted this, but found this quote on the Model X page on Teslamotors.com
Model X | Tesla Motors
RESERVE YOUR MODEL X
STARTING AT NOON PST ON 02.10.2012�
Feb 8, 2012
tnawara
Was just about to post this. Now to get the checkbook ready...�
Feb 8, 2012
Doug_G See Will the Tesla Website have a section for the Model X after the unveil? :biggrin:�
Feb 8, 2012
AnOutsider Crap, I knew I left something when packing. No checkbook�
Feb 8, 2012
efusco Yep, beat me by 20 minutes...sorry for the duplicate folks.�
Feb 8, 2012
gg_got_a_tesla They may not take reservations at the event tomorrow from the looks of it. I think everyone queues up online at Noon PST on 02/10. So, unless you are in-flight at that time and don't have WiFi, keep your credit card at the ready!
If they do take reservations at the event tomorrow, I'm sure a credit card will do just fine.�
Feb 8, 2012
Rifleman I bet they will take credit card (on the model S they do for P reservations, but not for Sig reservations, as I recall)�
Feb 8, 2012
AnOutsider Sweet, let me hold yours�
Feb 8, 2012
Bifff67 8PM PST, you realize what time that is Eastern? I guess its payback for them always having to watch football starting at 10AM. My real worry is will the server hold up under the load, both the show and the next day reservations!�
Feb 8, 2012
Citizen-T Man, I would love to see headlines like "Model X reservations crash Tesla's servers".�
Feb 9, 2012
LST Man do you realize what time it will be in Europe ? We have to get up 05.00 am on Friday 10th !!! Reservation time is al little
better, noon will translate to 9pm, same day... hope the hype and excitement is justified ! Model X should replace our XC90 Volvo...�
Feb 9, 2012
markwj I'll sit down to watch it during my lunchtime, midday Friday (Hong Kong time).�
Feb 9, 2012
jcstp Lucky boy! ;-)
I will be deep asleep by then!
I hope they keep the whole video on internet, so I can watch it with my breakfast! ;-)�
Feb 9, 2012
clea Just got an email about the Model X reveal and they talked again about the live webcast. The only info was a reference to the TM site Model X page Model X | Tesla Motors so i assume that the link to the webcast will be provided there when it is time.�
Feb 9, 2012
Doug_G 
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