Apr 28, 2016
loganintx WattHours/Hour makes no sense. It's Watts that you want times the amount of time you use it for.
If it uses 40Watts continuous power and you run it for 8 hours that would be 320Wh.
If your car is averaging 320Wh/Mile then when you divide the two like I said you would end up with 1 Mile.
The energy required to keep a cooler of cool things cool vs the energy needed to move a 5,500lb car is going to be many magnitudes of difference�
Apr 28, 2016
ohmman Hey, that's still pretty good time! I mean, it's not the 150mph you normally average, but not bad at all.
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Apr 28, 2016
Coolcarx Too Funny! Sorry, I meant to say each 9hrs 600mi each way.�
Apr 28, 2016
Coolcarx 28 F was the lowest and my speed was as low as 50mph to make next SC station. I was warned to drop to 65 them 60 all the way to 50 with warning I'm not going to make it.�
Apr 28, 2016
ohmman The whole "go slow to get there faster" thing takes a while to acclimate to in those conditions. I've been in your situation a couple of times, but not on trips as long as yours. As I mentioned in the MX Range thread when you originally told us about the trip, starting slow helps a lot. It's hard to do, but if you know you're battling tough conditions it's best to start at 50 and increase the speed as you go (if possible).
Sounds like you're getting past that first hazing-style road trip. Looking forward to a more joyous trip report soon.�
Apr 28, 2016
FarmerDave Tip 1: When supercharging and the car says you have enough soc for your next leg, don't believe it. The car is assuming ideal conditions and YMMV. We always charged at least 15% more.
Tip 2: Beware of headwinds. They're invisible and can make quite a difference. We unknowingly ran into a 25 mph headwind while in Florida, and I wasn't paying attention to Wh/Mile. We were using the NAV system, and it suddenly rerouted us to the Orlando Supercharger. It had determined that we weren't going to make our planned next Supercharger based on current energy draw and sent us to a closer one which was a bit out of our way. We made it to that one (Orlando) with 35 miles to spare.
Tip 3: Destination charging is great. Start the day with 100% charge.�
May 17, 2016
ohmman Took a quick weekend road trip down the California coast with some camping. Things went well. A few notes:
Home to Seaside Supercharger: AP set at 75 on most highways. Minimal climate control. 157.2 miles, 332Wh/mi.
Seaside Supercharger to Pfeiffer Big Sur: Highway 1 manual driving. Winding, hilly roads but moderate speeds due to weekend traffic. 34.7 miles, 330Wh/mi.
Pfeiffer Big Sur to Seaside Supercharger: Highway 1 manual driving. Less traffic, faster speeds. 34.7 miles, 351Wh/mi.
Seaside Supercharger to home: AP set to 75, but lots of traffic/stop and go/etc. 159.8 miles, 358Wh/mi.
AP was great on the highways in almost all situations. The one situation where I was not thrilled was in stop and go traffic where the traffic would suddenly speed up to 30mph, then rapidly brake - and repeat this condition. AP waits too long to apply the brakes in that situation and it freaked me out a couple of times before I just disengaged until I got into a more normal traffic pattern.
And a very notable item. I was done charging at Seaside on the way home but was waiting on my son in the owner's lounge bathroom. All chargers were full, and I saw another white X pull up to charge, so I unplugged and moved so she could pull in. Same configuration as mine - pearl white 90D with UW interior. She thanked me and I said "nice choices". Walking back with my son, the owner pointed out that our license plates were a single digit apart. It makes sense when you realize that Tesla probably sent in all the applications based on build, but that was a first for me. My twin car in the wild, and consecutive plate numbers!�
May 18, 2016
dmsail We did 8700 miles last summer in our Model S. We used the CHADEMO adapter twice--once in Charlottesville, VA and once in Albuquerque, NM. Both times it was welcome. Not as fast as superchargers but much faster than Level 2 chargers.�
May 19, 2016
Coolcarx I know what you mean with the late autopilot breaking. I didn't want to wait to see if it was going to stop. Your average seems much better than mine. What size wheels do you have? Is it true that variable speed vs constant speed kills efficiency? Thanks!�
May 19, 2016
ohmman I have a 90D with 20s.
The Model X seems to have a different energy consumption profile than my Model S. I think because of the weight, there's a real penalty to stop and go driving. But on the highway at a more consistent speed, it seems to be nearly the same as the significantly lighter Model S.
Consistent speed is good, but cruise control is generally worse than driving yourself. If you anticipate the upcoming downhill, for instance, you might let yourself drop in speed a tiny bit and then coast down the hill, allowing yourself to potentially go slightly faster than your set point. Load up the energy graph on the IC and drive for a while trying to keep the usage as close to 0 as possible. That is, regen has a penalty as does high consumption. There are nuances, for instance going 100mph down a hill to avoid regen makes little sense because air resistance has become so great that you're losing any benefit. But within reason, this seems to be a good way to learn how to drive "efficiently".
I'm at 299Wh/mi lifetime (33k miles) on my Model S P85 and 338Wh/mi lifetime (1300 miles) on my Model X.�
May 19, 2016
aesculus Maybe Tesla needs a new CC mode called Energy Saver. As you stated it could be set for constant power instead of constant speed. Aircraft do this.
I actually find myself doing this now too, especially when coming to a stoplight. I will poke along with a big gap between me and the next car to the light. It really makes people behind me mad and they often change lanes thinking I will be poking along after the light changes too.
I can just see all the cars piling up behind Tesla's on hills and coming to a stop as well as us racing around slow pokes on downhills as we approach 100 mph.�
May 19, 2016
Coolcarx That would be a great feature for when you know your pushing range limits to get to destination. It would be nice to know exactly how to max your range. Maybe have an automated voice coach you "please coast, now punch it.... Wait, that's too much...easy does it"�
May 19, 2016
ohmman I've wanted this since I first got my S. With all the sensors on the newer cars (along with elevation information for trip planner), it seems like a reachable goal and quite valuable.
Of course, it could be argued that we already have it. Set cruise at 50mph. Voil�!�
May 19, 2016
gavine Philadelphia to DisneyWorld.....If anyone has already taken that trip, I would love to get some pointers/tips. Previous trips there in our ICE took 16 to 18 hours (14 hours of driving). I'm sure the Supercharger trip will be longer but with good planning, hopefully not much longer.�
May 19, 2016
xkwizit I have noticed on my S70D too that cc mileage is worse at times than manual. Haven't driven X enough but I am pretty sure it will be the same.�
May 19, 2016
Tjhappel Man I was really hoping to use the x as our family road trip car but I think we will be waiting to buy one until the range is at least comparable to my model s p85. I have a hard enough time with that where I almost don't want to take it if it's longer than a 300 mile road trip. Those stops add up real quick especially with young kids. We want a model x so badly, I drove one for a half a day, it feels like my model s did 2 years.... Driving in the future! Fingers crossed for a 110kwh in 6 months,
Hope you guys love your cards. They're awesome.�
May 20, 2016
Mark Z I talked to the insurance company today and got some frustrating news. California doesn't have "Accident Forgiveness" so the premium will rise if the driver is at fault. I know this thread is about road trips, and this information definitely applies to what vehicle you may want to use.
Here is where it gets strange. The insurance company can choose what vehicle to apply it to if you have multiple cars. Let's say you have three cars. The policy would rise the least on the oldest/cheapest vehicle even if the accident occurs in the expensive vehicle. So you definitely want them to select the cheapest vehicle as the most used vehicle. In my case, the difference was striking. If I was at fault, the 2009 Escalade would rise about $270 a year. Model S about $700 or Model X about $1,000. Keep in mind, only one vehicle would be hit with the extra premium on a yearly basis. To make sure that my reported mileage stays in line with the most used vehicle, I should drive the 2009 Escalade across the country to keep the Tesla reported miles lower than the cheaper vehicle.
This should help give California drivers a push to install a dash cam to help prove that the driver was NOT at fault.�
May 22, 2016
ptsagcy So we now have about 6,000 miles on our MX, including a trip from northern NJ to Richmond, VA and from NJ to Orlando. The trips were fantastic. The seats are very comfortable and autopilot makes the trips so much more relaxing. Superchargers worked great with minimal planning. This is, by far, the best road-trip car I have ever driven.�
May 22, 2016
Scrith My family and I had a great time in Yosemite this weekend with the X. Needless to say for those that have driven it, the X is absolutely amazing on days with beautiful clouds and in locations with high scenic sights, such as the incomparable Yosemite Valley. Here is a picture of El Capitan and Horsetail Fall visible above the rear-view mirror (sorry for the reflections):
A few other notes on the trip: the Yosemite personnel loved the car (none had seen a Model X before) and we had long conversations about it at the entrance to and exit from the park, and several personnel from the Ahwahnee (now known as Majestic) Hotel, including some at the front desk who enthusiastically went outside to check it out. We were the only Tesla there Friday night, so we were hooked up to the Tesla charger there all night. The clouds were amazing to see out the front windshield, and seeing a bit of snow falling while looking out the windshield while driving on Tioga pass was great fun as well. After parking at the tunnel view area we had several tourists turn around and take pictures of our car (two great views from that location on that day, I guess).
After charging in Manteca we easily made it to the valley (driving up the old priest road was a blast) and had so much charge left that we took a quick side trip about halfway up Tioga Pass to play in the snow before coming back to the valley to charge.�
May 22, 2016
steve56 I'm planning a trip in my MX from Southern California to St. Louis, Missouri starting this Saturday, May 28, 2016, to attend the annual Midwest Tesla Gathering. But this might not qualify as my "first" MX road trip. I live in Vancouver,Washington, took delivery of my MX in Portland,Oregon, and later drove it down to our vacation house in Southern California. My wife and I drive back and forth between our home in Vancouver and vacation place in Southern California quite a bit in either our MS or MX. Usually we just spend one night in a hotel around Mt. Shasta each way on this 1000 mile trip. When we got our very first MS in early 2013 we had to use a Roadster Charging Adapter Cable since there were no Superchargers between Portland and Sacramento at that time, but there were Roadster Charging Locations. That problem was solved before our second trip and now it is a breeze using Superchargers all the way. For this upcoming trip in our MX to Missouri, we made this same trip about a year ago in our MS. We drove out to have our MS at the ribbon cutting of a new Tesla Destination Charging Location at the Depot Inn & Suites in La Plata, Missouri, a hotel that we used to own. That was a very scenic trip that we really enjoyed. I'm looking forward to doing it over again, but this time in our MX and this time with auto-steer which was not available at the time of our prior trip.�
May 25, 2016
Mark Z After careful consideration, I am leaning heavily towards using the Escalade for the CA to PA dash across country. My previous post gives the major reasons. Read: First road trip in your MX
Looks like the first long road trip in the MX will take place later in the summer, after the older vehicle gets heavy usage.
When Model 3 becomes the cheaper vehicle, then the entire equation changes. The California insurance industry needs to change the way they do business so safer expensive vehicles are given the cost break they deserve at insurance premium time.�
May 25, 2016
steve56 Seems like the people here must be experienced road warriors. The ONLY way i'd ever want to do any trip over 300 miles is to stop for a 20 minute leg stretch every 2 to 3 hours, so the Tesla is perfect for me! I've done lots of trips up and down the west coast in my Tesla between Anaheim and Portland. I'll be embarking on my second round-trip from Anaheim to Missouri this Saturday. Last time I did it in my MS P85D, this time it will be in my new MX P90D. I can't imagine driving that far, about 1800 miles each way, without a stretch every 2 to 3 hours plus about 3 or 4 overnight stays along the way. I have no complaints that I'll be stopping every 125 to 175 miles along the way for a few minutes.�
May 26, 2016
David_Cary Model S driver here.
But I'm surprised no one has mentioned it - that trip planner is crazy conservative. I've blasted along at 70 mph when it says slow down to 55 mph. I doubt the X one is any different.
The P90X with 22 inch wheels is possibly the worst range car that Tesla sells (hyperbole I know). I haven't followed X data as much but EPA rating may not punish the 22 inch wheels enough. Given the small difference between 90X and P90X, I am guessing the tires were 20s.
Has anyone done the range testing with different speeds? EPA rating is not great here as the average speed is low. The NJ poster complaining about time would have been best served by never exceeding 65 mph, more air in the tires (especially since it was cold and they were probably low), and not charging all the way to top. His 9 hour trip probably would have been 12 instead of 14 with some tips.
70D here and never have I gone less than 200 miles on a charge and 250 is perfectly doable.�
May 26, 2016
EcoHeliGuy Ya leaving home fully charged can negatively effect your whole trip. Hitting that first supercharger closer to zero can have a trickle down effect for every other stop. Assuming you route is entirely supercharger supported.�
May 26, 2016
ohmman I generally agree, except in the case that it allows you to skip the first Supercharger. That is how I am typically able to plan it. Then, you can do that first longish jaunt when you're fresh, and the more regular stops after you've been on the road a while.�
May 26, 2016
Coolcarx I tried everything possible to get 212mi (Somerset to Allentown,PA) on a full charge. It warned I would not make it. So I drove to Hagerstown and then to Allentown, 153mi. I only charged it to about 210range which took over an hour. I arrived in Allentown SC with -12miles. I may be taking the trip again soon. The conditions will be much better with warm temps and a new charging station in Harrisburg. I'll let you know how it works out.
Here is an example of what happens when you need to fully charge to get to the next station. I plug in around 11:18 with 40mi left. I unplug without being fully charged at 1:10. That is almost 2 hours! Now, if I had less than 40 miles left which happen on my trip and needed a full charge it�s over 2hrs of wait time. I fully understand now the key is to charge about 80% and go. Unfortunately I learned the hard way. With more superchargers this problem is gone.�
May 26, 2016
xkwizit @EcoHeliGuy - please educate me/us on why leaving home fully charged is detrimental to the entire trip?�
May 26, 2016
loganintx He explains it in his 2nd sentence. Car chargers faster when battery SOC is closer to 0%.�
May 26, 2016
xkwizit @Mark Z - the insurance premium increase based on at fault accident is an interesting factor. And I am not trying to impose my thoughts on you, for me the safety of a Tesla would be the overriding factor when planning a long trip like you are. There will be other concerns such as availability of charging facilities en route and additional time added to travel but personally for me the insurance on the car will be much lower factor to consider when planning a road trip.�
May 26, 2016
xkwizit @loganintx - I get that the car charges faster when it is closer to zero and then slows to a trickle above a certain percentage. And there are other threads where experienced Tesla owners explain how to make the best use of supercharging network, but I still don't understand how charging full when at home or at an overnight stop with destination charging would be detrimental to the trip.�
May 26, 2016
ohmman I think the idea is that if you charge fully, you'll arrive at the first supercharger with a higher SOC than is optimal. And in some cases, you may not be able to skip that charger, so you're charging at high SOC, then arriving to the next one with a high SOC, etc. Daisy chain effect. I feel like you pretty much mitigate that by only charging as needed at the first Supercharger, and you'll be right back on track. So I agree with you, it's not a concern.�
May 26, 2016
xkwizit See these threads that really help understand how best to use the supercharger network:
How to plan a road trip - how long will it take?
How to save a lot of time on long trips
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May 26, 2016
gfb107 The trick to minimizing time waiting to charge on a road trip is NOT arriving at a each SuperCharger with a low SOC.
The trick is to not spend time waiting for charge that you don't need to reach the next SuperCharger (+ a small buffer)
Let's say your 1st SuperCharger is 150 miles away, and the 2nd SuperCharger is 120 miles past the first, and you like a 10 mile buffer.
If you leave home with 220 miles of charge, you arrive at the 1st SuperCharger with 70 miles of charge remaining, so you have to spend time charging from 70 to 130 for the 2nd leg.
If you leave home with 160 miles of charge, you arrive at the 1st SuperCharger with 10 miles of range, so you need to charge from 10 to 130 for the 2nd leg. Think of it as the time to charge from 10 to 70 followed by the time to charge from 70 to 130.
The time to charge from 10 to 70 is shorter than the time to charge from 70 to 130 because of the lower starting SOC, even though in both cases you're adding 60 miles of charge.
You arrived at the supercharger with less charge, so you have to spend more time charging because you need more charge to reach your target SOC (130)
Now consider the charging before you left home. If you did it while you were having dinner, packing, and sleeping the time to charge from 160 to 220 was not wasted because you weren't just waiting.
However, if you did it at a SuperCharger and waiting, the time to charge from 160 to 220 would be significantly longer than the time spent charging the next day at the 1st SuperCharger charging from 10 to 70. At least double, maybe quite a bit more. It's still the same 60 miles of range, but it is much more expensive in terms of time.
Moral of the story: If you're waiting while charging, only charge as much as you need to get to your next stop (+ a small buffer). If you aren't waiting, keep on charging!
Of course we should be considerate of other travelling Tesla owners, so don't hog the SuperCharger if it is crowded and you have enough charge for your next leg. Don't make someone else wait for a charge you don't really need.�
May 26, 2016
Mark Z I agree. The Tesla would offer a better crumple zone than the Escalade. I also find it disturbing that there are no cost benefits with the insurance when driving the safest vehicle. However, the truck like qualities of the Escalade offer unique crash benefits in its design. I have used it for long road trips many times and appreciate the high profile seat position. Once the older vehicle has more 2016 usage, then I can enjoy using Model X for a long road trip without the insurance concern.
When comparing the length of time it takes to charge the Model S and the Model X, the extra time and stops required with Model X is another reason to leave it at home for this coast to coast trip. I posted the difference in the first half of the navigation calculations at this site:
Five Promised 200-Mile Range EVs That Won't Break The Bank - GM-VOLT : Chevy Volt Electric Car Site
I look forward to Model 3 that will offer great safety and better navigation calculations than Model S. The lower vehicle cost will help the insurance issue as well.�
May 26, 2016
xkwizit @Mark Z - well besides the crumple zone safety are other things too - rollover for example. With MX having a really heavy base, the chances of rollover decrease quite dramatically.
And yes, the concerns on charging time or finding a charging location are valid - just like they were when there weren't enough gas stations as compared to horse stables. It was literally easier for our forefathers to "park" the horse at the inn and feed it hay than to find a gas station.
However, I am very encouraged with the availability of charging stations - superchargers, destination chargers and ChaDeMo. We are planning a west coast trip from NorCal all the way to Victoria BC/Vancouver and based on information I have come across there are plenty of charging spots on the West Coast along I5. I think the biggest limitation was downtown Seattle but there also ChadeMo is available in plenty. The feedback I have received on this forum from people up north is pretty encouraging.�
May 27, 2016
Mark Z Excellent point. I drive near the speed limit so rollover without the Tesla could be an issue if a quick turn was required to avoid an accident.
For three years I used Model S almost exclusively. Road trips from the LA area to OKC, Park City, Coeur d'Alene, and multiple trips to Vegas and Fremont with over 57,000 miles total have given me great pleasure enjoying the Tesla experience. I never want to return to a local ICE drive world. My decision to not use Model X for this trip is a disappointment due to the California insurance industry. The benefit will be saving about 6,000 miles of warranty, decreasing depreciation, and something I did experience by using the Escalade on the last Vegas drive: no waits to charge. I am thankful to have more than one vehicle that makes this possible. The old 2009 SUV only has about 48,000 on the odometer and it does have AM radio! A touch of retro for the Route 66 Mother Road.�
May 27, 2016
X Fan What a great long distance travel partner.....total trip time was almost 16 hours but with AP, seat comfort and great distributed AC arrived at our location with limited travel discomfort. Of course, charging breaks contribute to the wholesome feeling but I�d assign the travel comfort as the key factor. General thoughts:
Stats:
- AP is your friend and does a wonderful job. Still a work in process as I found that it sometimes disconnected when traveling on I95 over short distance bridges in South Carolina ( the bumpiness of road probably was a contributing factor). Your fatigue is minimized and that�s important in long distance travel. A small vent: getting out of Florida is a nightmare from SW due to I-75, I-4 and I-95 near Jacksonville construction and South Carolina�s I-95 pavement is awful (and has been for years). Ga�s 3 well paved lanes make the trip on I95 very comfortable.
- Need K-Mtg.�s sunshade during direct sunlight in early/mid day heading East. Cabin is cool but would appreciate a little less sunlight.
- Seat comfort is wonderful. You won�t find another vehicle in the market today that provides such terrific long distance travel. I�ve said this in other Op�s but it gives you a train travel feel vs. a car.
- Road visibility is outstanding and allows you to anticipate travel in front of you.
- Road noise was tolerably low (my passenger seat window alignment fix helped tremendously) despite some imperfect road conditions.
- Average WH/miles was very good with no/low loss in early morning, lower temps highway segment (I-75 148 miles from Naples to Brandon, FL SC ran exactly at 100%, 104% of a 152 mile segment from I-95 to OIB, NC with the worst loss at 116% of actual miles at at 90+ temps in middle of day between Kingsland, Ga to Savannah, GA (see image file for exact trip averages)
- Overall, only 14% loss for 775 miles driven in mostly highway miles (in very high heat conditions). Comparatively, getting 460 mile average in my local driving over last couple of days.
- Was able to skip two SC�s (Orlando & St. Augustine) and found SC stops deserted as we were the only vehicle at each stop. Averaged 3.21 range miles added per minute. Favorite stops (in this order) were Savannah (covered parking and short, covered walk to terminal, great services) and Brandon (close to Starbucks with a Panera Bread in an adjacent mall for more food choices). Port Orange was a pretty area with lots of choices in mall area but it was a long walk to nearest restaurants (Olive Garden & Chucky Cheese) & rest rooms. There were plenty of other choices nearby but those would be inefficiently utilized since you would have to drive after charging to get to them. Also, Inclement weather would be a challenge though.
- X�s headlights allow for easy night driving in well-lighted interstates ( didn�t notice ghosting but perhaps roadway separation contributed to that) but is less desirable in darker/more rural areas. I�m assuming this was a design tradeoff to maximize battery/range miles but we found rural road traveling to be more difficult.
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May 27, 2016
ohmman Thanks for the great report and data. I don't see Wh/mi listed there, but could potentially back it out from actual miles vs range miles. Did you collect that info as well?�
May 27, 2016
X Fan Yes---I took pictures of screen at every stop....I�ll pull that together and post.....
btw: I purposely overstayed at the Santee SC since I knew that my OIB destination had only 120v charging at this time (could have left 30 minutes earlier). Fortunately, the local electric company (BEMC) just a installed J1772 30A unit on the beach (1/2 mile away) that got me back to 90% within 5 1/2 hrs. They also have installed fast DC charging about 10 miles away that I could access if needed. Once I got back to 90% my 4mph charging solution per night is sufficient for my local driving needs......amazing.�
May 27, 2016
xkwizit @X Fan - excellent report. That's the type of factual reports we would like others to also add to this thread. I requested the mods to make this a sticky so everyone can benefit from such data.�
May 27, 2016
X Fan With energy stats....btw: getting 300kWh local driving which seems to yield 460 miles at 80 degree temps.
Also, selected EvPlanner's P 85D 21� tires to estimate trip.....and FWIW....when new, averaged 384 wh//Mi on a 116 mile highway trip from Dania Beach to Naples, FL. Vehicle now settling in with tires breaking in.
Knock on wood.....no issues with front doors, falcons, etc. on trip.....perfectly running X!
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May 30, 2016
steve56 I've been managing websites since 1995, but for the life of me I can't figure out social media including Facebook, Twitter or Forums. Where the heck to you post Tesla Road Trips on Tesla Motors Club Forums? For all the searches I have done I can't find a related forum but I do know that many people have posted their road trips here.
Anyway, I have just completed the 2nd day of my long 3600 mile road trip round trip from Southern California to St. Louis, Missouri. Today I traveled from St. George, Utah, to Glenwood Springs, Utah. If you want to see my report and photos, you can find them posted at St.George,UT to Glenwood Springs,CO by Tesla Model X P90DL . And, if you know where one is supposed to post general Tesla Road Trips and not necessarily one's first road trip in a Model X, please let me know! Thanks!![[?IMG]](https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/blogger_img_proxy/AEn0k_slZrsjZSa3boioSY1GWxfo-ilI4PocH1z6_Skh21zfZBc4bXiR2ue30MrOiy13sfLj_tsSwovDNqjgT4GuB8Jk3aLKCuysVNChzMPn24tLRR1UM8pCVmI2pzYJm2IrEsgtUtHtJhYWAASynWxOLTlRwQ4=s0-d)
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May 30, 2016
xkwizit @steve56 - I wish there was a more higher level road trip thread but I was told getting one created is going to be just one more of the thousand things on on the mods priority list. So for now, post your trip here. We would love to hear.�
Jun 7, 2016
xkwizit Based on EVTrip Planner, attached is our plan for our upcoming road trip in Model X from NorCal to Victoria BC. I used the settings for MS 90D 21" 1.2 speed multiplier, 72F in/out temp and payload 400lbs
I think there is mainly one segment that is a bit dodgy..Corning SpC to Ashland which I highlighted in pink in the attached file. It seems to be consuming way more energy than the actual miles and I am not sure if we will reach the hotel or have to use some other charger en route.
Looking forward to comments and suggestions from our experienced Tesla owners.�
Jun 8, 2016
napabill Stop for a quick sip at Shasta. Right off the freeway.�
Jun 8, 2016
ohmman This. You'll need to stop at Shasta, to avoid some anxiety at a minimum. If they're open, and if you like Indian food, I can recommend Maruti as a surprisingly good Indian restaurant in Shasta. Sadly, it's not easy walking distance from the charger, though they will make take-out for you. Call ahead and it'll be ready to pick up prior to charging.�
Jun 8, 2016
xkwizit @ohmman and @napabill - thanks for the tips. We are planning an overnight at the Best Western at Mt Shasta. So pretty sure we will use your tips. And we live Indian food anyways or will be craving for it after being on the road this long.�
Jun 13, 2016
xkwizit Summer is here..and I am pretty sure lots of Model X owners must be planning trips long and short. Let's share the details here..plans as well as how it went and pictures.
I am hopeful one day @doug will let me create a road trip subcategory. I know he has his hands full right now with TMC Connect etc. But till then let's use this thread as our place to share our plans and stories.�
Jun 15, 2016
xkwizit Found this on the Model S forum and set it up last night. Really helpful app that Model X owners will find useful too:
Tesla Winds and Elevation Web Browser App
Thanks @SomeJoe7777�
Jun 15, 2016
Mark Z Glad to be back home to enjoy the Model S and X for local drives. The 2009 Escalade was driven 5854 miles roundtrip between CA and PA for two weeks. Performance was perfect with the new Michelin Defender LTX tires. Some parts of the I-40 were extremely broken up and I was pleased to not stress the Model X with a horribly maintained part arriving in Arkansas heading west. Superchargers I saw on occasion were vacant, so don't worry about overcrowding. I will weigh options to consider the X on the next LA to OKC trip, my Sooner friends want to experience Ludicrous Mode!
I will try a rough freeway local road test soon to determine if I should consider moving the 19" wheels from the S to the X for long travels. The S could get it's 21" wheels back and be original again! The original 22" X wheels and Pirelli tires could be stored for a future buyer.�
Jun 16, 2016
aesculus Will the X be able to figure out how to recalibrate the speed etc base on the new tire circumference of the 19's?�
Jun 16, 2016
Mark Z Tesla offers the 19" wheels as a winter option for Model X. However, the tire sizes are different when visiting the Tesla tire page for both Model S and X. The wheel is 8.0 wide for S and 8.5 wide for X. Looks like my idea of using the Model S 19" wheel on the X wouldn't be acceptable.
More research will be needed. The goal is to have the quietest and most comfortable ride with maximum range if Model X is driven long distances.�
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