Sep 5, 2013
katysplus Elon Musk To Traverse The U.S. Using A Model S And Tesla Superchargers In 6 Day Trip, With Only 9 Hours Spent Charging | TechCrunch�
Sep 5, 2013
TheTalkingMule The Musk Family Truckster Road Trip
What a phenomenal idea. Let's hope Elon can use this as another mini-vacation and de-stress a bit.
I'd be happy to volunteer as your Liberty Bell/Independence Hall tour guide should the Musk family decide to roll through Philadelphia.�
Sep 5, 2013
FlasherZ Just be sure to refuse giving Aunt Edna a ride, and don't hook the family dog to the liftgate latch.�
Sep 5, 2013
richkae A lot of those news links go to an old supercharger map ( from the original supercharger expansion announcement date ) that only shows 8 stations instead of the current 19. Thats too bad.
3200 miles over 6 days is only 533 miles per day. Thats somewhere around 268 miles of charging per day ( assuming you start each morning with a full 265 and end the day empty ). A more probable number is 300-350 miles of charging per day and ending each day with some buffer. Seems pretty easy to do that with a dozen correctly placed superchargers and 5 hotels with a L2 charger.�
Sep 5, 2013
justaddsun It would be really cool for Tesla owners to join the Musk family on the road as they drive through their area.�
Sep 5, 2013
aaron.s Would be epic! End on east coast with lots of Model S's!
Aaron�
Sep 5, 2013
justaddsun Big party at every Supercharger.
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Sep 5, 2013
AlMc Absolutely! They should meet at the charging areas and make sure Musk has unfettered access to a station. If it is planned correctly local media could be alerted to cover each segment of the trip.
Maybe he could do it in an 'X'! :smile:�
Sep 5, 2013
justaddsun Elon Musk To Traverse The U.S. Using A Model S And Tesla Superchargers In 6 Day Trip, With Only 9 Hours Spent Charging | TechCrunch
"This would make a wonderful reality show, but we�ll probably have to settle for snippets from Musk on Twitter and via the official Tesla blog. Here�s hoping for plenty of pictures of Musk and co. mugging next to �America�s largest Turkey statue� or whatever else they happen to come across."
Uh, I think it will be more like live streaming at stops, lots of media, and them coming across a lot of happy Tesla drivers.�
Sep 5, 2013
Jeeps17 I posted a link to this in the news section early this AM, seems to be stuck in some sort of limbo...�
Sep 5, 2013
mknox As cool as that sounds, I think Elon deserves a nice vacation with his kids and some privacy. On the other hand, if he really wanted privacy, he wouldn't have tweeted out the fact that he's doing this. :tongue:�
Sep 5, 2013
stevezzzz Elon's serving more than one master in this matter, it would seem.
Maybe he'll make the trip, without fanfare, as soon as all the necessary Superchargers are operational (and perhaps even before the've been announced as operational to other Model S owners)?�
Sep 5, 2013
ppl I am impressed with either his courage or ignorance. Couped up in a car with 5 young kids cross country for six days. I would not have the courage to do this. After 30 minutes would predict 1. Are we there yet or 2. I have to pee. By 1 hr a verbal fight and by 3 hrs a physical fight. I love my kids but would never attempt this.�
Sep 5, 2013
austinEV +1. I hope he avoids the temptation to use an ICE chase car with luggage and juiceboxes. And I hope he comes away with a deeper respect for cup holders.�
Sep 5, 2013
Krugerrand Sedation administered via sippy cups is a wonderful thing. (One of many reasons why they never leave me alone with children.)�
Sep 5, 2013
ItsNotAboutTheMoney Maybe he'll make the trip and the Supercharger will be turned on as he passes or arrives, like Arthur reawakening the land as he rides. That way he'll be guaranteed a spot.�
Sep 5, 2013
NigelM This. Elon works crazy hours every week; be nice if we left his kids some private time with dad.�
Sep 5, 2013
ggies07 I'm confused, his tweet said he spent only 9 hours charging, which is past tense. So I took it as he already did it, but the article and you guys are acting like he hasnt yet......?�
Sep 5, 2013
justaddsun I see where you guys are coming from, but if he wanted privacy he would not be tweeting anything and he would be taking his family to some private island that he owns, lol.�
Sep 5, 2013
apacheguy Hopefully 120 kw supercharging will be live by the time the Musk clan embarks on the trip. That should cut down on charge times quite a bit.�
Sep 5, 2013
yobigd20 how does he plan on doing this when the supercharger network is not even a quarter complete yet? He'll never do it with less than 9 hours of charging...�
Sep 5, 2013
mitch672 If it was me, I would send care packages ahead of time to service centers along the route, stop by and pick them up and get the old "surprise inspection" from the boss
BTW, most of the service centers already have drinks/snacks anyway, but they could load them up with his kids juice boxes (and they also have bathrooms too)
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Yes, those are the opposite of "puppy uppers", "doggy downers"�
Sep 5, 2013
teslasguy CNN just had spot on Elon and his upcoming trip.�
Sep 5, 2013
mitch672 Keywords: "later this year", as in not now... Think Thanksgiving (or more likely) Christmas vacation.�
Sep 5, 2013
Palpatine Elon should hire a camera crew and Kate Upton. Then put her in a Tesla Roadster during his Model S cross country trip.
They could re-create the scene from the movie Vacation where Chevy Chase sees Christie Brinkley in the Ferrari.
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Sep 5, 2013
emupilot He's apparently looking at Tesla's "Winter 2013" supercharger map and thinking that means he could take that road trip at the end of the year. Someone needs to break it to him that Tesla's timing is... less than precise. It looks like about 16 superchargers need to be initiated and completed before he can make the trip, with three others soon to be operational. I notice the supercharger map now has a route through Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Maryland so he doesn't have to take his family through Canada to get across the U.S.!�
Sep 5, 2013
NigelM Yes!�
Sep 5, 2013
modulus This stinks for us. Doesn't he need to start from Tesla in Fremont or Palo Alto ....the birthplace, and leave from the bay area?
Boo hiss on LA�
Sep 5, 2013
SFOTurtle I agree, but he would need the SCs on I-80 east of the Sierras in order to do this route. That looks like it's pretty far out in the future before we see those SCs.�
Sep 5, 2013
john01 Would love to have a date for his trip. Just so we would know when the superchargers will actually be in. Traveling between NY and Boston or Cape Cod only SC are in CT on I95 the slowest route for me. The two towns in CT only have two SC per (on each side of I95). Would love to see him with long wait to recharge.
I bummed to see NEW Charging stations all over Norway, with picture of five SCs at one site. Just saying....
I love my Model S. I would just like to have some SCs on my chosen all Interstate 300 one way mile trip.�
Sep 5, 2013
andrewket A bunch of us have been talking about the East Coast->Teslive trip next summer. I guess Elon is going to beat us to it.�
Sep 5, 2013
Enadler Did Elon actually confirm when he will be taking this trip?�
Sep 5, 2013
AlMc Yes. He tweeted it and it has been picked up by cnbc.�
Sep 5, 2013
ppl Or conversely leave the man alone to enjoy a trip with his young kids who would most likely like to have their dad all to themselves�
Sep 5, 2013
Gwgan I hope his kids don't find themselves starring in a reality show.�
Sep 5, 2013
AlMc I am all for him having a quiet vacation with his friends/family. Problem: He tweeted this plan so it has no shot of being a quiet vacation :wink:�
Sep 5, 2013
woof A followup tweet said:
At 1.5 hrs/day, we will only ever need to charge when stopping anyway to eat or sightsee, never just for charging itself
9/5/13 04:37
Implies to me he's not relying on JUST SuperCharging.�
Sep 5, 2013
Puyallup Bill Oh, he has that covered. Look at what you get for $150.00.
http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/showthread.php/21085-2nd-Row-Cup-Holders-Now-Available-150!!!�
Sep 5, 2013
brianman While I appreciate the intended spirit, this is a little too stalker-y for me.
If it was just Elon, sure. But he'll have the family with him.�
Sep 5, 2013
AC1K cross Canada road trip has already been done without super chargers
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/ndpdfSmJilNKX9BxFQSVY84QUW9QjTZ2mk4D67QuaEY=w334-h235-no
Sun country hwy chargers are free BTW and some provide 20kW of power.�
Sep 5, 2013
TheTalkingMule Maybe he could rock a custom olive green paint job with wood paneling?
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Sep 5, 2013
mitch672 Yeah, that "family truckster" was hilarious, you forgot to mention the 8 headlights as well, 4 per side.
That's a beauty�
Sep 6, 2013
aaron.s John
Darien, CT North has 4 chargers and Darien South is almost done and also has 4 chargers. I wouldn't be surprised if the upcoming Providence, RI - Greenwich, CT - NJ Turnpike also have at least 4 chargers each.
Aaron�
Sep 6, 2013
JGard You think you hate it now, but wait 'till you drive it!�
Sep 6, 2013
AndyM Could this be Elon's planned route?
I've been asked by a few skeptics about the 9 hours of charging. I spent some time trying to re-create the trip.
I have done a few trips outside my range, some with supercharging, and verified my model/spreadsheet with real-world data.
There are some big IF's that Elon will need to follow to make this happen:
- Actual miles to rated miles used needs to be 90%. That means clear weather, no headwind, 65-68 mph, and no hills.
- Stop at EVERY supercharger along the way; AKA, don't plan to go more than 200 miles between superchargers.
- Drain the range to around 10 miles rated when arriving at each supercharger. This assures you maximize rated miles per hour of charge before the charging slows down.
- Don't charge more than the miles of rated range plus 10 to get to the next supercharger. Again, optimize for time.
Assumptions:
- 120 kW and 310 Wh/rated-range mile at every supercharge: 385 rated miles charged per hour (linear calculation). That means booting your neighbor if the shared-charger spot is taken.
- Very rough estimation for Supercharger locations. I chose the city or town closest to the red AND gray dots on the Winter 2013 Supercharger map.
- Used Google Maps to plot the route, from Hawthorne, CA to Brooklyn, NY. I only had to enforce one deviation from Google's suggested route, to ensure to drive through Rapid City, SD, and then the route fit the dots.
With those constraints, I was able to plan what I think is Elon's route, for about 3200 miles and 9 hours of charging:
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Waypoints Actual Miles Rated Miles Used Rated on arrival Rated Charge Added Rated Range at depart Charge Time [/tr] Hawthorne, CA 200
[/td][/tr] Barstow, CA 128 142 58 91 149 0:14:08
Jean, NV 125 139 10 165 175 0:25:39 St. George, UT 148 165 10 175 185 0:27:20 Elsinore, UT 158 175 10 145 155 0:22:36 Green River, UT 131 145 10 207 217 0:32:14 Glenwood Springs, CO 186 207 10 100 110 0:15:39 Silverthorne, CO 91 100 10 141 151 0:22:01 Ft Collins, CO 127 141 10 127 137 0:19:44 Wheatland, WY 114 127 10 161 171 0:25:04 Edgemont, SD 145 161 10 90 100 0:14:05 Rapid City, SD 82 90 10 177 187 0:27:34 Vivian, SD 159 177 10 213 220 0:33:08 Sioux Falls, SD 192 213 7 197 204 0:30:39 Albert Lea, MN 175 194 10 140 150 0:21:51 La Crosse, WI 126 140 10 121 131 0:18:54 Cascade Mountain, WI 109 121 10 115 125 0:17:56 Rockford, IL 104 115 10 131 141 0:20:24 Gary, IN 118 131 10 78 88 0:12:12 Benton Harbor, MI 71 78 10 161 171 0:25:02 Ann Arbor, MI 145 161 10 58 68 0:09:03 Toledo, OH 52 58 10 194 204 0:30:12 Youngstown, OH 175 194 10 149 159 0:23:09 Clearfield, PA 134 149 10 211 220 0:32:52 Stroudsburg, PA 190 211 9 92 101 0:14:24 [/td][/tr] Brooklyn, NY 82 91 10 10 0:00:00
[/td][/tr]
TOTAL MILES 3,268 miles 8:56:01 hours �
Sep 6, 2013
mnx FWIW, I don't see anything near Clearfield, PA until the 2014 Map, and it's not even a red dot until 2015!
Although it appears something around Breezewood, PA is a grey dot in the Winter 2013 map which would work.
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Sep 6, 2013
mitch672 He said it was a 6 day trip, so they'll be sleeping at hotels for 5 nights, they will likely end up plugging in at hotels that have charging available on the way, I don't think he needs to stick to SuperChargers exclusively. When they are sleeping, sightseeing, eating, that charging time doesn't count�
Sep 6, 2013
aaron.s Elon's route through Pennsylvania will *not* be via Route 80 - it will divert after Youngstown, OH past Pittsburg down to the PA Turnpike and east to NJ.
I analyzed this when I was plotting the route for driving out to Teslive next summer....
Aaron�
Sep 6, 2013
wycolo Elon & Family should take a train across with WHISTLESTOPS whenever one or more TESLAs are reported ahead at any RailRoad Station. Tweets would constantly update how many Teslas at such n such Station. How much the train slows down would be proportional to # of Teslas presenting. Also the length of whistle blast. Treatment befitting Royalty; reliving the Golden Age of Economical Transport and all that. Would keep us Hoi Polloi out from underfoot, too.
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Sep 6, 2013
AndyM Good to know. I'll make the update to my model�
Sep 6, 2013
aaron.s Zoom in on the supercharger map and you'll see where they are in PA...
Aaron
Correction - PA Turnpike east to DE Supercharger then a quick hop over the DE Memorial Bridge into NJ and up to NYC.�
Sep 6, 2013
AlMc I agree he will divert/stop at the Delaware Supercharger. Perfect place to charge and allow for NYC finish.�
Sep 6, 2013
AndyM With the added distance between the existing SC's at the end, that adds 25 minutes of charging, busting Elon's 9 hour claim. Unless he's rounding down.�
Sep 6, 2013
john01 Aaron, I would like to know you're planned route. I am thinking of making the same trip.�
Sep 6, 2013
aaron.s John, All
Here's my post on the 2014 Cross Country Drive to Teslive on the thread in the Teslive forum. I based it in the Winter 2013 Tesla Supercharger Map by zooming into it and matching it up as close as I could on google maps....
http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/showthread.php/19231-Cross-Country-Rally-to-Teslive-2014/page3?p=392304&viewfull=1#post392304
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Sep 7, 2013
dennis Memo from the Boss
FROM: Elon
TO: Supercharger Team
There has been a slight change of plans. I've designated the attached list of supercharger sites as "immediate priority" so I can complete the cross-country trip with my kids as promised. Feel free to disregard the current plan and de-prioritize other sites as necessary to get this done by mid-December.
We've got 90 days. You guys are great, I know you can do it!�
Sep 7, 2013
Enadler Aaron if your map is correct then Tesla needs to install 19 superchargers prior to Elon's trip. Assuming he travels around the end of the year then we are talking about 19 opening 1.5 chargers per week! However if we assume that Tesla will build out all of the Winter 2013 chargers by year end then we are talking about opening 60 superchargers over the next 15 weeks. 4 per week.�
Sep 7, 2013
brianman Heh, I think many of us are thinking that.�
Sep 7, 2013
Cottonwood Great analysis! I have some thoughts on Utah, my neck of the woods, but we are only off an exit or two off, here or there: Utah Super Charger Locations
My big question is why did Tesla put the big jog (I call it the Mt Rushmore Detour) into the route. If they had just put in Superchargers down I-76 east out of Denver and then followed I-80 to Chicago, the route would have been a lot shorter and a few Superchargers fewer.
Why is the justification for the Mt Rushmore Detour? I don't think its to look at four U.S. Presidents cast in stone. :biggrin:�
Sep 7, 2013
stevezzzz I think Dennis answered your question in his Memo from the Boss...�
Sep 7, 2013
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Sep 7, 2013
texex91 That's a nice PR trip if I've ever seen one.
Will give him a good oppty to hear the good and the bad that owners have with his cars.�
Sep 7, 2013
Denarius i don't see any change in plans. Elon has been planning it for a long while, and the super charger map has shown the route across as long as I've been looking at it.�
Sep 7, 2013
Discoducky Until you realize that Winter ends 3/22/14�
Sep 7, 2013
Denarius I don't understand your comment, I was commenting on the line "Feel free to disregard the current plan and de-prioritize other sites as necessary to get this done by mid-December."
I don't see them changing plans at all, it has always been planned to have the route across the US finished for Elon's trip.�
Sep 7, 2013
rolosrevenge Awww, and you were the one I was expecting to follow him.�
Sep 7, 2013
Discoducky Ah, my bad as I assumed you were referring to the super charger timeline as it shows the necessary chargers coming online 'winter' 2013. TM is notorious for hitting the last day of a given season.�
Sep 8, 2013
Cinematechs You're all assuming that he wont perform any battery swaps.�
Sep 8, 2013
brianman ... which is a good assumption because, AFAIK, there are no swapping stations available.�
Sep 8, 2013
mcornwell A priceless photo would have Elon standing in front of a Tesla Service Center, wearing a blue leisure suit, staring at a Green Model S...�
Sep 8, 2013
Krugerrand I'm pretty sure that Dennis' post was a joke.�
Sep 9, 2013
dennis Well, Elon announced another plan on 5/30 to triple the number of superchargers in the U.S. from 8 to 24 by 6/30 (or 7/31 if you give him the benefit of the doubt). That goal still has not been met. So I don't think it is quite as easy as you state. It will take some focus on the installation of the required superchargers for the cross country trip if he is going to pull it off by the end of the year. That was the point of my tongue-in-cheek "memo".�
Sep 9, 2013
Norbert Someone on StreetInsider.com seems to think that Elon is already starting his "six-day, 3,200-mile cross-country road trip".�
Sep 9, 2013
Mario Kadastik Well the sole news I see is from streetinsider.com about the possibility that Tesla will take the direct sales point to federal level either through congress or filing a federal lawsuit.�
Sep 9, 2013
Norse When is that trip really? And btw, anyone got some charting software easy enough for a newbie?�
Sep 9, 2013
Norbert Sometime in "winter", I think. Most downloadable software (online-broker supplied) seems to allow you to draw lines. The way I'd draw it, we are above the bottom of the channel.�
Sep 9, 2013
twinklejet and by winter, expect anything from now to end April 2014.�
Sep 9, 2013
Norbert Not "now" since the Supercharger network doesn't connect the coasts yet.�
Sep 9, 2013
Convert2013
Not sure. Elon may have a surprise early opening for us. I mean who plans a road trip 3 months ahead..? Was his tweet a way to hint cross country will be available sooner than later? Hmmm.�
Sep 9, 2013
dhrivnak I must be way off as MOST of my road trips are planned 6+ months out. With kids and work schedules i have to plan.�
Sep 9, 2013
twinklejet Since nobody seems to have answered you..
In that tweet with that sentence structure, it's not past tense, it's called future perfect tense (an english grammer rule)...
So he did not say that "he spent only 9 hours charging" (past tense)
He said "Just finalized the LA to NY family road trip route in Model S. 6 day, 3200 mile journey with only 9 hrs spent charging." (future perfect tense)
Let me know if you need more help with this, you can also post in the grammer thread which I think the mod will move our two posts over anytime now...�
Sep 9, 2013
AndyM The cognitive dissonance generated by this post is enough to keep all of us OCD sufferers visiting our therapists.�
Sep 10, 2013
twinklejet Whoops! I meant grammar!�
Sep 10, 2013
brianman Mismatched spelling and grammar proficiencies aren't a sign of cognitive dissonance. IMO.�
Sep 10, 2013
Mayhemm Elon first mentioned his coast-to-coast trip with the family a LONG time ago. I'm sure he (or his PR people at Tesla) had the route planned out before the supercharger map even went live. The only variable is WHEN it will occur.�
Sep 11, 2013
AndyM I didn't think it was. The dissonance was in my own head.�
Sep 19, 2013
Beavis I think he is recreating the road trip he and his brother took many years ago.�
Oct 21, 2013
Mayhemm A month later, any news on the trip?�
Oct 27, 2013
Cottonwood Take a look at the Farmington, NM Supercharger thread. I think this provides a nice clue.
Put Farmington, NM together with the Xcel Energy (local utility) representative letting slip at the Silverthorne, CO ribbon cutting that the next Colorado Supercharger opening would be in Grand Junction, CO, and the 2015 Supercharger map on the Tesla site, here is my theory on the route through the Southwest. Look at this annotated map.
The orange lines are my guess at Elon's route. The purple circles are Farmington, NM (from the announcement above) and Grand Junction (from Xcel at Silverthorne). The blue circle is Ridgeway, CO; Ridgeway is my guess at a good spot to break up the 220 mile run from Farmington to Grand Junction. The Farmington to Grand Junction section could be done on one charge, but given the time needed to Range charge in Farmington, and the possible range anxiety from driving a loaded car in cold weather, I doubt that Elon will do that. Alternatives to Ridgeway include a Supercharger in Montrose, or an overnight charge in Telluride. Come to think of it, an overnight in Telluride would be my choice... :biggrin: Let's assume an overnight in Telluride, with maybe a few hours skiing with the family before heading to Boulder to visit his brother. Here is the map with an overnight in Telluride.
To make this work, the Gallup, NM and Heber-Overgaard, AZ sites will have to come on-line this winter instead of waiting until 2015. This is an easy stretch given Tesla's examples of out of order roll outs. Just like the Mt Rushmore detour, I had wondered why there was a Supercharger in Heber-Overgaard, AZ. Now its obvious; this is another part of the Supercharger network that is not a bad spot, but supports Elon's recreation of the trip with his brother. It also means that the LA to Phoenix Superchargers need to be installed, but that is part of the plan anyway, so no big deal.
If we put all of this together, then here are the first few days, all supported with announced, or PR slipped Supercharger locations:
- Hawthorne to Phoenix � 371 miles, via Indio, CA and Blythe, CA. Scottsdale would actually be a great place to spend the night! � Hawthorne, CA to Avondale, AZ - Google Maps
- Phoenix to Telluride � 556 miles via Heber-Overgaard, AZ, Gallup, NM, and Farmington, NM � Avondale, AZ to Telluride, CO - Google Maps
- Telluride to Boulder � 383 miles via Grand Junction, CO, Glenwood Springs, CO, and Silverthorne, CO to spend the night with his brother in Boulder � Telluride, CO to Boulder, CO - Google Maps
All of this puts Elon a little behind schedule for a 6 day cross country trip, but it is a great start! Besides, crossing the great plains and mid-west at a faster pace than the beautiful mountain southwest would be a great trade-off for me; an easy first day, visit a world class ski area, and an overnight with family all seem to fit into the family road trip!�
Nov 11, 2013
Cottonwood With a lot of information and strong rumor coming together at Arizona Superchargers - Page 10, and with the Farmington, NM Supercharger info coming out, here is my best, intelligent guess for the start of Elon's trip: Hawthorne, CA to Farmington, NM
The big question is how does Farmington, NM gets connected to Grand Junction, CO to get back on the I-70 route to Glenwood Spring, CO and Silverthorne, CO...�
Dec 22, 2013
Mayhemm Elon's trip may happen soon....
Just checked the Supercharger map on Tesla's website:
Looks like the coast-to-coast corridor is only 1 or 2 locations away from being complete!
Depending on the state of supercharger construction in West Virginia and Pennsylvania, they may actually complete it by year's end!�
Dec 22, 2013
RobStark Looks like the large contingent of Tesla owners in Austin TX are being quarantined to a 400 mile radius!�
Dec 22, 2013
772 There are at least 10 more SCs that need to be completed for this to work... thankfully most are under construction and near completion; the few that aren't will start after the current set are done. They'll definitely be up before spring�
Dec 22, 2013
Mayhemm How do you figure? That little eastern gap could easily be filled by a single Supercharger. The route may not be optimal, but it would be complete.
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Since their government banned the sale of Model S in the state, they should be happy they got what they did.�
Dec 22, 2013
772 The Western half isn't completed yet. The overlapping range circles are deceiving. For example, the distance between Quartzsite, AZ and Gallup, NM is 407 miles, and the distance from Gallup to Glenwood Springs, CO is 446 miles. So, although the radiuses of the range circles overlap, the trip can't be completed in a single charge. In order for 60s to make the trip, the SCs have to be ~150 mi apart, and ideally about 100-130 miles apart. But SCs at most of these necessary locations are already well underway.�
Dec 23, 2013
Mayhemm Ah, that makes sense now that I look closer. Thanks.�
Dec 23, 2013
Cottonwood The circles on the Tesla page are very optimistic. If they touch, it means that if you do a range charge at the boundary on some other source, you can make it to the next supercharger. A more conservative approach is to look at Teslawiki Superchargers. If you set the range to kWh of the car for an MS (85 or 60), and the circles overlap, you can probably make it comfortably between Superchargers.�
Dec 23, 2013
Mayhemm It's still pretty close.
If you hide the ones listed as "under construction" there's still only 2 small gaps that need to be filled.�
Dec 23, 2013
donauker One thing to remember is that Elon has stated that they will be charging exclusively at Superchargers with only 9 hours of total charging or 1.5 hours per day. This allows almost no time for charging after tapering starts so he will need to either drive a car with a modified charge profile or the spacing of the superchargers will need to be much closer then total range limits.�
Dec 23, 2013
Cottonwood Exactly! That's why I recommend setting the range radius on Teslawiki Superchargers to equal the kWh capacity of the MS (85/60) or a little less. Then look for gaps; those are the places most likely to put you in the taper zone.�
Dec 23, 2013
tezco I just looked at the map and Gallup, NM is no longer showing.�
Dec 23, 2013
Grendal I don't think he's going through Albuquerque. I think he will do a full charge in Gallup and go north on 491 to hit the Supercharger in Farmington. They've nearly finished that Supercharger.
Tesla opens charging station near Gallup - Albuquerque Business First
Yes. They just opened the Gallup Supercharger.�
Dec 23, 2013
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Dec 23, 2013
tezco Grendal --Sorry, couldn't tell where the stations were on the small screen. Edited post to Gallup. Quick check of Tesla website still shows Gallup has been removed. Perhaps the site is down for some reason.
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Dec 24, 2013
Mayhemm Can somebody with a Model S confirm Galup is showing in the Supercharger database? It has indeed been removed from Tesla's map on their website.�
Dec 25, 2013
artsci Actually, it's under construction at 111 Twin Buttes Rd. Check out this wiki. It's much more useful than the Tesla supercharger map.�
Dec 31, 2013
Kevin Harney Elon's Cross country trip
What are the odds that he will make it with the kids in a Model X instead of a Model S ? :biggrin:�
Dec 31, 2013
bint2k Hmm totally great point� might make sense considering the superchargers are not fully in across the states yet...�
Dec 31, 2013
100thMonkey crossing the country in the S would sort of be old news in a way, crossing it in the X would compound the excitement of a new model with the opening of the cross country circuit of the super charging network and would be a brilliant move for Tesla! the question of course is, how risky would it be to take a beta on a virgin voyage cross country with so many cameras ready to bring focus to any and every little glitch that comes up?�
Dec 31, 2013
Kevin Harney I think they would be further than a Beta only 9 months from first delivery right ?�
Dec 31, 2013
AnOutsider We got the MS Alphas in August of 2011 if I remember correctly. I believe the beta was shown around the factory event (Oct 2011). If so, that was only 8 months before deliveries were supposed to begin (and about a year+ until they began in earnest). Granted, they SHOULD be better-prepared this time around, but somehow I doubt it.�
Dec 31, 2013
Enadler Remember most of the Critical systems at duplicates of the MS. What is new is the all wheel drive and the body. I think there is a good chance we will see an X and an S costs the country. I think it would be pretty difficult for Elon to travel cross country with all his kids and luggage in a single vehicle.�
Dec 31, 2013
SCW-Greg Not to keep OT, but beta issues on the X won't be in the drive dynamics, but in body.
I think driving the X at the same time he crosses country, would be an awesome move, even if before production rollout.�
Dec 31, 2013
SteveG3 Great idea if the X is ready.
As Elon has 5 kids, it might be a bit much to do all that driving with the kids having to take long turns in that rear-facing seat. It has its purpose, but from what I've heard not as comfortable as the ones many of us grew up with in old stationwagons.�
Dec 31, 2013
MikeL I think it will take longer than that to get those side-view cameras approved :wink:�
Dec 31, 2013
Reykjavik From a publicity standpoint, I think two separate stories might be better than one big one. Even big stories tend to be forgotten overnight. Separating them out lets you focus better in each story, and it gives two chances for people to see and be convinced.
I don' think the model S is going to be going from being the car of the future to being obsolete when the model X comes out, especially considering that they are on the same platform. So I don't think abandoning the model S is a good plan.�
Jan 2, 2014
EV2BFREE Can Elon Musk drive the Model X across the country then make every person that has already plunked down $ for the reservation wait another 6 months? I think that these reservation holders will already be chomping at the bits to get their hands on the Model X. It would be good PR for the Model X but I think it might anger some of the reservation holders.�
Jan 2, 2014
bint2k Taking both the vehicles makes a lot of sense. I'm leaning more on the thought of taking the X will be great for Elon to really get a feel for the way the X works in the real world. He's always been very hands on, what better way to get a feel for the nuances of what would make the X a better vehicle. He will have his kids/strollers/groceries/snacks/etc in both cars and will get first hand experience of what actual problems arise when you're trying to putting kids/strollers/etc into the back of the crossover/suv vehicle or even the S. Who knows maybe we get some new additions for the production version of the X when it finally comes out�.
From a PR perspective he should just stash a couple of identical Model X's across the country so he can swap um out if the alpha or beta version were to break down *heh heh heh*�
Jan 2, 2014
EchoDelta If he makes one way in the S but the return in an S it would be cool.
I don't think reservation holders would be angry if Elon decided to make a public road trip in a beta. I'd only be disappointed if they rush it and there's issues that could have been prevented by working on it a few more months.�
Jan 3, 2014
AnOutsider I, personally, wouldn't mind. If he took a beta out for the purposes of PR and giving it an extended road test, I'd be fine with that.�
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