Dec 8, 2012
dmetcalf Dave Metcalf and son Adam break the 400 miles challenge! Incredible...
Okay guys, I'm going for it with my 12yr old son who loves Guinness. Left at 12:22 AM Eastern. Got some good advice from Tesla and my NASA engineer friends. It is going well so far 60mi in 12.4kWh avging 202Wh/mi including two big bridges to get off the island. After that down to 191 or less... I'll keep you posted at stops. Pray we don't get rear-ended!
I'll autopost pics to Twitter- follow dmetcalf.�
Dec 8, 2012
dsm363 Good luck!�
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JRP3 Go d!
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NigelM Go Dave, Go!
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AnOutsider Aweeeeesome!�
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NigelM Looks like it's time for a break....
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Back on the road...
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Dec 8, 2012
NigelM Dave Metcalf's attempt at 400 miles (live today)
Started this thread to follow Dave and his son today. Please add posts and pics, especially if you're following Dave on twitter.
Thanks. Go Dave, go!�
Dec 8, 2012
Raven5000 Yeah! You can do it!!!!!!!�
Dec 8, 2012
AnOutsider He definitely can with 200 miles down and 162 rated still on the dash! And here we thought someone in CA would be first
Still chugging along:
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Raven5000 Wonder what speed he's traveling? My guess 50mph.�
Dec 8, 2012
steve841 If you make it to Ft. Lauderdale .... and run out, my garage is open and my plug is ready.�
Dec 8, 2012
dailydriver Very cool - good luck!! Hopefully there will be a charging station at your destination!:smile:
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... or make it to a forum member's house.:wink:�
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NigelM Heading down Alligator Alley doing this takes some serious belief in the car! Kudos.
Watch out for panthers and alligators Dave!�
Dec 8, 2012
steve841 Same thing in this case!
Im way out west compared to the Dania store!�
Dec 8, 2012
djp From the dashboard pics it looks like he's doing a constant 25mph. This is also close to optimal for speed vs. range on the Model S.
Model S Efficiency and Range | Blog | Tesla Motors
Good luck Dave!�
Dec 8, 2012
AnOutsider @ 240 miles
One of his earlier screenshots showed 25MPH. I'd guess, like djp, that he's aiming for that sweet spot.�
Dec 8, 2012
yobigd20 What are you planning to do once you have 0 charge left? Tow the car?�
Dec 8, 2012
djp And if that's the case he should cross the 400 mile finish line shortly after 5pm tonight, assuming no breaks.�
Dec 8, 2012
StephRob Interesting that he's doing it with the 21" wheels. Should be able to do even better with the 19" ones. Good luck Dave!!�
Dec 8, 2012
AnOutsider 
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Dec 8, 2012
NigelM Fist panthers, then alligators and now sharks:
281 miles!�
Dec 8, 2012
AnOutsider He's @ 281
70% there!
*edit* Nigel beat me. *hands over the reigns*
I wonder how Tesla will handle this? I guess they'd first verify the trip from his car's computer.. then what? Send him a 400mile pack to try for 500?�
Dec 8, 2012
Oyvind.H Norwegians are watching the event�
Dec 8, 2012
NigelM I believe there's a few Tesla folk watching now also.�
Dec 8, 2012
Arnold Panz Go Dave! Particularly challenging going east on Alligator Alley since the prevailing wind blows east to west. If the range is good once he gets through the Alley he should be home free.�
Dec 8, 2012
Zextraterrestrial now that I'm awake ;>
or did you mean 'real' Tesla folk?
I wanted to try that this week also�
Dec 8, 2012
NigelM Real as opposed to imaginary? :tongue:
(Yes, I meant 'real' Tesla employees).�
Dec 8, 2012
jackie Any updates ? I reckon he must have made it to over 300 now...(Netherlands watching too...)�
Dec 8, 2012
Zorba Good luck! Following you on Twitter now, exciting!�
Dec 8, 2012
eledille Heia, heia! *shaking virtual cowbells*�
Dec 8, 2012
aviators99 Does anyone know where he will end up? Maybe I will meet him in my S.�
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NigelM 
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Dec 8, 2012
Discoducky Wow, this is exciting!
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Dec 8, 2012
NigelM Here's a close-up, looks like 332 miles gone and 67 on the rated available:
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Dec 8, 2012
mklcolvin Go Dave Go!
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NigelM Sent you a PM.�
Dec 8, 2012
Discoducky I'm seeing 331.8 travelled and 63.1 remaining. So very exciting! If Dave can get a tailwind or lose some elevation he's golden!�
Dec 8, 2012
David-El +1 Agreed!�
Dec 8, 2012
napabill At 25mph he's still got a couple of hours. He and his son playing cards as they roll along?�
Dec 8, 2012
NigelM That's 67 remaining, it's closer than you think! Although there's almost zero elevation change to help him out, that's why FLat starts with FL.�
Dec 8, 2012
Discoducky I wonder if he's heading West toward Naples or East towards Miami? Hope there's a charging station or tow available if he's on his last electrons.�
Dec 8, 2012
Jason S 100 questions: anything in the world. :wink:�
Dec 8, 2012
Anzir How in the heck is he averaging 25 MPH on Florida roads? If I'm doing 75 in a 70 I consistently get passed as if I'm standing still.�
Dec 8, 2012
NigelM 
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Discoducky
I think he's inside the Everglades park. Much slower speeds.�
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Dec 8, 2012
steve841 Oh no... hes on regular roads. Gutsy in these parts!�
Dec 8, 2012
AnOutsider The final stretch! Just about an hour left:
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Dec 8, 2012
AMPd I'm hoping he completes this challenge, also hoping this will get the attention from a few car sites
More free advertising for Tesla!�
Dec 8, 2012
mattjn Long time lurker here excited about Tesla and the Model S. I have to wonder though how this challenge is going to have any positive effect on the mainstream buyers. Going 400 miles in one charge is cool, and the techies and enthusiasts will love it, but averaging 25 mph on the highway and taking all day to do so isn't exactly going to win the regular joe to want to buy the car. If you go slow enough, I'm sure 500 miles would be possible but people don't drive that way. I'm also echoing a previous poster in questioning how you go so slow on a Florida highway without getting pulled over by the police, isn't there a minimum speed limit?�
Dec 8, 2012
Rodolfo Paiz Sitting here chewing my nails to get news. Did they make it?�
Dec 8, 2012
gg_got_a_tesla Yeah, as matt says, it's a bit like those MotorTrend folks sweating it out from LA to Vegas on one charge. Atleast, Florida in December is ideal for this kind of thing.
All the same, looks like dmetcalf and son should be getting there right about now!
Congrats in advance!�
Dec 8, 2012
David-El I am (figuratively) doing the same!
Agreed, anxiously awaiting the news of completion!�
Dec 8, 2012
Rodolfo Paiz Whether they make it or not, it's a worthy attempt. And whatever happens with the car, it'll be an unforgettable father-son experience for both. Attaboy, Dave.�
Dec 8, 2012
David-El 
He did it!�
Dec 8, 2012
tg123 He made it. From a long time lurker, congratulations Dave.�
Dec 8, 2012
Sig698 Awesome! Can't wait to hear Tesla's response!�
Dec 8, 2012
djp New world record in a production EV!�
Dec 8, 2012
Rodolfo Paiz Bravo! Is this going to be an official Guinness World Record?�
Dec 8, 2012
gg_got_a_tesla 18 miles to spare too! Bravo!�
Dec 8, 2012
Jason S 9 KWh left! Go for another 20 miles!�
Dec 8, 2012
SteveH Way to go Dave!�
Dec 8, 2012
tomanik Congrats, quite the effort�
Dec 8, 2012
Vger Outstanding! I sure hope you get a personal call from both Elon and JB. You and your son certainly earned it!�
Dec 8, 2012
JRP3 Nicely done! :smile:�
Dec 8, 2012
Arnold Panz Awesome! Against the wind most of the way, with an extra ~200 lbs in the car (father/son bonding time!), on a warm day (I needed A/C today) with rain, this is an amazing accomplishment!! Can't wait to hear what the prize is!�
Dec 8, 2012
NigelM Congratulations! Really incredible and a great story for your son. Way to go Dave, so many of us were riding with you!�
Dec 8, 2012
JRP3 Besides the point of taking up the challenge from Tesla to hit 400 miles, what this also does is clearly point out how you can stretch your range if necessary by slowing down, which might help some people avoid being stranded. I doubt 500 miles is possible with this car no matter how you drive.�
Dec 8, 2012
DaveVa Congrats!!!!�
Dec 8, 2012
Rifleman Congratulations! Thanks for sharing the adventure with us as well, this was really cool. Hopefully Tesla has something good in store for you�
Dec 8, 2012
brianman At his average consumption rate for the trip, he could do another 47 miles or so (so 447 total). Unless I'm reading the numbers wrong.�
Dec 8, 2012
mattjn Congrats on the accomplishment.�
Dec 8, 2012
StephRob Congratulations!!! Nicely done! And I'm still amazed that you did it with the 21" rims. How far is possible with the 19"?�
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jackie Awesome ;-)�
Dec 8, 2012
Discoducky Well done, hope you both had a good time! This quite the accomplishment!�
Dec 8, 2012
Tempus congrats Dave! Enjoyed following along vicariously on twitter and the thread here�
Dec 8, 2012
NigelM The big achievement is showing that it can be done; part of the longer term development is doing it faster and more efficiently. These type of achievements can become a collective tipping point to change perceptions, attitudes and, eventually, behavior. There will be plenty of people out there already who are going to feel more confident about their range just knowing that one driver did this. Dave Metcalf may have unwittingly affected the perceptions of thousands of people in a really positive way.�
Dec 8, 2012
kvietor Way to go Dave. Just got home myself and found the thread. It was exciting just scrolling through your progress.�
Dec 8, 2012
Sparky Great job Dave! I enjoyed following on Twitter.
If you think about it, could you record your tire pressures as well?
Also I'd like to hear more about how you chose this route and your return trip.
Again, congrats!�
Dec 8, 2012
Krugerrand +1
And congrats!�
Dec 8, 2012
SCW-Greg 500 miles? Completely doable... with the right circumstances... tailwind, one light person, no stops, 19" rims, perhaps even on the same road.�
Dec 8, 2012
dsm363 Wow! So exciting and a big accomplishment. Congrats.�
Dec 8, 2012
jerry33 Mainstream purchasers don't read this stuff so they'll never know unless they hear about if from one of their Tesla-owning friends.�
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Anzir And they will also discount it when they hear the avg speed was 25 MPH.�
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huntjo I believe the point was not to replicate real world driving, but rather to go for the record. Mission accomplished!�
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NigelM It's official:
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And finally, after 423.5 miles on a single charge:
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efusco Pretty cool that GeorgeB gave him a call!�
Dec 8, 2012
byt Congrats Dave, was hoping to pull this off myself, awesome to hear it happened none the less! Would love a typical speed and route report and lessons learned for us to get the most miles per watt out of our Model S'�
Dec 8, 2012
Bardlebee Too cool! Congrats! What a way to spend time with your kids�
Dec 8, 2012
mcornwell With the large retired population in FL, he might have passed some blue hairs at that speed!�
Dec 8, 2012
vfx Great feat Dave! World record is nothing to sneeze at. You will have that moment in time for the rest of your life.�
Dec 8, 2012
JakeP Great job, Dave and son! Cannot wait to see what Tesla does to reward your accomplishment!�
Dec 8, 2012
AnOutsider Ok can I be a downer for a second? I always knew tesla had access to our cars, but still... Seems a bit creepy. George, I swear I stopped at that sleazy joint to ask for directions...�
Dec 8, 2012
bonnie If there aren't photos, it didn't happen.�
Dec 8, 2012
mulder1231 Great effort! Wonder what the MPGe is for this trip, going 423 miles for like $7 must be one of the cheapest means to travel that distance.�
Dec 8, 2012
Zextraterrestrial Google's got u on that one ;>�
Dec 8, 2012
dmetcalf First, thanks again to all of you for the support, especially my virtual pit crew with good advice from prior attempts, etc. Adam and I had fun and shared the journey like many of you acknowledged. He turns 13 Mon, so this did have a right of passage feel to it and that was a lot of the reasoning for attempting. I will try to respond over the next couple of days. By way of explaining, I was trying to be good and only auto post from the camera function while on the road. We stopped a grand total of 17 minutes plus one routine, police stop to make sure we were okay with the hazards on in the fog so I did not see the new thread until this afternoon. Many things worked for us and a few against. I'll try to detail these and also provide a bit more narrative to go with the pix.
I am going to bed soon�
Dec 8, 2012
bonnie Huge congrats, Dave! And to your co-pilot, too.�
Dec 8, 2012
dmetcalf First half of the month is only 8.4 cents so $6.74 gets you 423.5 with equiv price in FL of $3.35/gallon means 2.01 gallons is 210 MPGe, right?�
Dec 8, 2012
efusco Look forward to the "whole story"! Congratuations again.�
Dec 8, 2012
dmetcalf Just to clarify, I contacted Tesla and asked them to track for validation with a Guinness submission of evidence so it was initiated by me a couple days ago.
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It is fitting that a challenge that involves driving slow ( something I'm not often accused of) is won in Florida.�
Dec 8, 2012
NigelM I have one word for you...... TEG!
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Bingo! No doubt that California has been a big catalyst in the EV movement but it's fantastic to show that these sort of things can, and do, happen in other places also.�
Dec 8, 2012
dmetcalf I think since I only used 80.3kWh and the car still functioned in a limited way even after the big red charge now after reaching zero for a few minutes might mean there IS a reserve. Some of you may already know this.
We hit rain and some traffic that threw us off a bit toward the end. I was thinking 432 and had aimed for the 450 on the curve from the Tesla blog. Rain really effects rolling resistance...�
Dec 8, 2012
NigelM That's especially cool. Thread title is updated to reflect there was actually a driver and co-pilot.�
Dec 8, 2012
dmetcalf I do think 450 is doable. Pretty flat routes, but more rise than I thought, energy use to get off the island/ town traffic near our house, and the rain and construction pauses hurt, even though I only got stopped at 7 lights the whole day. Coasted up to all the rest 15-20 total. To all of you unfamiliar with Florida, I picked blue highways and back roads in VERY rural areas leading to beautiful "Wild Florida" locations near the big lake and Everglades. A few of the roads had higher speed limits, but were 4 lanes so I just had to watch to make sure they went around me. None had minimum speeds and I found a route with no freeways ( the route selection was easy since few routes meet these criteria and Elon's point A to B criteria, but I had only been on 25 pct of these roads ( thank you Google Street View).
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George called on behalf of both of them and also talked to Adam. This is the type of impression I know will stick with him and I am thankful. I hope he gets to meet them sometime too.
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Also remember that I have 21s on. Overinflated to the same 50.5 my car was delivered with. This may have emulated some range extension...
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Amen. The father son experience waswhat this was about for us. If we can help Tesla and the community, even if it is in a small way for us enthusiasts, this is a win-win.
Part of it was proving that we could do our part as well as the car's performance. Doing 50-100 mile ultraruns has helped with the endurance needed to make a long day attempt with just a few minutes out of the car. I look at this as an endurance sport and disciplined/precision driving challenge others may see it differently. My son was in it for the snacks and Guinness attempt�
Dec 8, 2012
mulder1231 Officially, MPGe is calculated based on the assumption that 33.7 kilowatt hours of electricity is equivalent to one gallon of gasoline. So in your case 78.5 kWh used divided by 33.7 is equivalent to 2.33 gallons used. 423.5 divided by 2.33 equals 181.8 MPGe. This method takes the price per kWh/gallon out of the equation.�
Dec 8, 2012
dmetcalf Adam and I submitted it for review late this week, but it takes 4-6 weeks to get reviewed. I signed all the paperwork and have an official attempt letter/legal agreement, pending their request for evidence and examples. That's why I got Tesla involved...
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Thanks for the offers. I did not see them til almost the end. Plan A was to stay overnight at an RV park, or plan B get to the 100 mile distance from I-95\714 to home. We chose B...
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Also remember that Elon's said the first 10... Go for it!�
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AnOutsider Congrats again. Glad tesla got involved to make it official. A guineas record is definitely something your son will remember for a lifetime�
Dec 8, 2012
100thMonkey Congrats!!!!!�
Dec 9, 2012
ddenboer Elon tweeted his congrats:
Twitter / elonmusk: Congrats to @dmetcalf for being ...�
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Larry Chanin Fantastic job! Adam has one cool dad.
Larry�
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dmetcalf Manga Takk!
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Thanks. We'll write up a report for here and the newsletter too.�
Dec 9, 2012
yobigd20
HAHAHA - I just had a total brain fart. First time I read this I was thinking about the beer - not the record breaking authority. For a minute I thought Elon's prize was going to be a case of Guinness or something.�
Dec 9, 2012
dmetcalf Thanks didn't see some of these until we were much further north. My main goal was to avoid traffic and maintain constant speed to bring the kWh down. I would have loved some rallying but had to stay focused on the road. 27 near you was some of the fastest roadways on our route and we were on high vigilance to not get rear ended.i spent some time driving in the breakdown lane : ).�
Dec 9, 2012
mlascano Congratulations Dave and Adam! Great accomplishment. Do give us an update when Guinness verifies the record.�
Dec 9, 2012
steve841 Dave would have loved to have met up with you to cheer you guys on!
We could have done the traditional S FL courteous driving... You in the right lane, me in the left, side by side, going 25 mph in a 70 mph zone.�
Dec 9, 2012
Al Sherman Simply awesome all around! Congrats. You're the Charles Lindbergh of Tesla. I have to admit I was getting emotional at the end there.:smile:�
Dec 9, 2012
TXjak I suspect that someone who started at a high enough altitude could do it.�
Dec 9, 2012
JRP3 Probably correct.�
Dec 9, 2012
FlasherZ That's fantastic. Next stretch will have to be 450.
My "drive-like-an-idiot" meter (a/k/a the energy app) says I won't be able to do 300, much less anything more...�
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