Aug 25, 2013
Ivleth Hi all, I have searched the forum and couldn't find a decicated post about what you have driven before and why you choose the drive the model s.
I am awaiting delivery a P85 full options (black interiour/exterior, except for the winter package and rear faced seats), living in Holland and I am driving a Porsche Cayenne Turbo (1st gen). Why I choose to buy a model s? That is a nobrainer!
- We pay in Holland 1,85 euro for one liter of euro95, the cayenne drives 6km to a liter, so, driving a model s will save me a lot of money!
- As a business owner you get a lot, really a lot of profit driving a electric vehicle in Holland. My model s costs around 120K including VAT. Obviously the VAT(21%) is returned, we get also some other tax investment rebates. Netto price will be around 30K!
- Holland is, as I understand, a pioneer in Europe and therefore the government is investing heavily in CO2 neutral cars, like the EV's. Because of that we drive the car for 5 years without paying road tax, no private use tax (if you drive business car privately, you have to pay a percentage for that) and no BPM, which also a kind of extra tax (20% ?) when you buy a car.
So, some quick math, some negotiating on the finance and I ordered the car within a week! By the way, bizar, this is the first car I ever bought through the Internet
Let me know what you prevous car was and why you choose to buy a model s,
Grtz ingmar�
Aug 25, 2013
Btrflyl8e My daily driver before was a Hyundai Genesis coupe. Still have, now for sale, lol. Reasons I bought the Model S:
- I love cars
- I like to be different
- I love driving fast
- I like beautiful things
- I was excited about the opportunity to not only drive a beautiful, fast, unique car, but to be part of something bigger
The $7,500 tax credit and $3,000 reimbursement from my employer were just bonuses to me and did not factor into my decision.�
Aug 25, 2013
jerry33 I drove a Prius before. I purchased the Model S to get rid of the ICE and still have a car that was really a car (not a second car like the other EVs). Ten years ago the Prius was the best car you could purchase but compared to the Model S it's now just outdated tech and Toyota hasn't done anything to improve it. (Their last revision made it worse in my opinion.)�
Aug 25, 2013
texex91 Haven't bought yet (waiting on test drive). Primarily a Porsche guy (3 911's of various flavors in past 4 years) and Audi (still have S5 I like).
Not buying Tesla to save a few dollars on gas, as once all's said and done that's not a big deal for me, but I am attracted to it by technology and something 'new'.
I'm a car flipping kind of guy, normally buy something new every year and have 2-3 cars to play with.
If I get Tesla S, will get rid of Porsche, and keep SUV and S5. May end up selling S5 if I find myself liking S too much
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Aug 25, 2013
islandbayy 100% Electric Alfa Romeo 164 ---- I needed More then 15-50 miles range
I also have a 2002 Nissan Xterra Truck--- Still have it for towing (Used 3 times this summer)
2009 Nissan Cube ----- Need to sell, was my Family car because of the high MPG.�
Aug 25, 2013
ByICE Drove Nissan Altima Hybrid, got tired of engine kicking in while standing still.
If I lived in Europe, I would be driving electric car long time ago (except where public transportation is available as cheaper and more convenient alternative).�
Aug 25, 2013
rfinn I still have a Lexus LS 460. Only drive on long trips.�
Aug 25, 2013
S-19910 Saab 9-5
Pretty obvious :crying:
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Aug 25, 2013
Hengist Early adopter of Chevy Volt, number 1498. Had a first production 2011LEAF reserved but orphaned it when the production model clearly did not have the promised 100 mile range. The thing Tesla alone understands is that I will definitely pay for range. The experience with the low sales of the 40 kWh battery should be instructive.�
Aug 25, 2013
jchangyy camry hybrid xle. great gas mileage, but just not cool enough. economically speaking, for someone who drives less than 12,000 miles a year, camry makes more financial sense, but who cares, right?�
Aug 25, 2013
MacLeodMX A rather rare 2009 V8 Hummer H3T (alpha trim) which I am keeping for hauling motocross bikes and trailers.�
Aug 25, 2013
lolachampcar 535i for me and 535xi wagon for my wife..... Bought MS because it is a better car and MUCH more fun to drive. Oh, the Maranello is for sale as well as it does not seem to get much love these days so let me know if you run across anyone interested in one
oh, and I think it is electric but that really did not play into the decision to replace the BMWs.�
Aug 25, 2013
NOLA_Mike 2013 BMW M5
Love the looks, power and new technology of the Tesla. I feel like I'm in on the front end of something big - wide spread adoption of electric drive vehicles. The fact that it is electric would not have been near enough to get me to trade my M5 for the Model S - it's the fact that it's a great car that got me to switch.
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Aug 25, 2013
KaJu74 2011 Audi S5 Cabrio
I am a technik freak an love Cars.�
Aug 25, 2013
Cottonwood 2001 Jeep Cherokee, 3" lift, ARB air lockers, and Warn winch.
I kept the Jeep for the really fun, snowy days around here in Pagosa Springs, CO, real Jeep Trails, winching people out of the ditch, and pulling a trailer. The MS now gets 90% of the miles.
Here is a picture of the Jeep on one of those fun winter days at my house when the MS stays in the garage. On the really, really, fun winter days, I put the chains on the Jeep to get up the driveway; real, steel-link, chains don't fit on the MS. :biggrin:
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Aug 25, 2013
NoMoGas I have a Chevy Volt, previously drove a Jaguar. Prior to going for the Model S I was seriously considering the Maserati Quattroporte, which is a car I believe Tesla directly competes with but isn't often compared to.
As you can see, some of the styling cues are similar so where I was at was in a position to purchase a $100,000.00 + sedan (Maserati is $160,000) so the Tesla really was a no-brainer. One of the easiest decisions I've made. Power, more room, technologically light years ahead of Maserati (they spend all their money on the Ferrari based engine and really lack the creature comforts in the cabin) , lower cost of ownership and of course, no gas. The Maserati was going to be my occasional "special" car... The Tesla will be my daily driver.
Like I said, the decision made itself.�
Aug 25, 2013
yobigd20
previously had a Range Rover Evoque. They have a major safety defect where it randomly disables the gas pedal while you were driving. would never drive my family anywhere in it as I didn't want them getting killed if I was turning left at a light and that happened. That was the major reason for getting rid of that.
Outside of that, the others were the same as quoted post. But above all major reasons included not having to pay for gas and oil changes anymore.
$7500 tax credit and saving over $7k for not having to pay sales and luxury tax in NJ were definitely a factor in the purchase. I would not have bought the MS without those (would have been out of my price range).�
Aug 25, 2013
texex91 Completely understand on Range Rover--worst SUV's I've ever owned. The worst. I know Tesla has issues, but Range Rover lived at service center--what a complete joke.
I wish Texas would waive 'sales tax' that would make the choice a lot easier :smile:�
Aug 25, 2013
xradr honda civic hybrid. 160K miles. Great car, keeping cuz it still runs well. Switched after borrowing my friend's Tesla Roadster for a week. I am not a car guy, but that thing just took my breath away. I put down deposit about 3 years ago on MS, never looked back.�
Aug 25, 2013
Mayhemm 2011 Audi TT S-line. Not really anything wrong with it other than Audi treats the TT like a bastard step-child when it comes to features and options (no push-button start, still DVD-based NAV, no modern driver assistance tech available). Oh, and it burns gas. (service stations have really started to annoy me lately)
The Model S is the first EV that has had the range, performance, technology, and styling to make it a desirable alternative to gas. (Before August 1st, I would have also listed value-for-money here)
I've wanted a Tesla since the days of the Roadster, but could not justify spending $140K CAD on a two-seat sports car while I was still a student. :tongue:
As it stands, the Model S is a tough sell to family and friends. There are no tax credits or incentives in my part of Canada. My mom thinks I should just buy a house instead. My friends think winter will kill it.
However, that will all change when they see/ride in it!�
Aug 26, 2013
mik Being a petrolhead en having been reading multiple specialized magazines since I was a kid, it keeps puzzling me that ever since I first saw Model S, I lost interest in any ICE whatsoever. That's what Model S is about: it's the next level, it's different, it's mobility 2.0. I had to step in.
BTW, currently 2009 A5, the best car I've driven so far. Has to go though, just keeping an old V70 out of range anxiety :crying:�
Aug 26, 2013
mknox My last car was a fully loaded '09 Cadillac CTS AWD. I still consider that to be one of the best car's I've ever owned or driven.
I usually (not always) replace my cars every 3 years, but hung on to the CTS an extra year waiting for the Model S. My primary motivation was the cost of fuel. The Model S was a bit more expensive than usual for me, but I drive around 24,000 miles (39,000 km) a year, and with gas (today) at $1.35/liter the savings add up fast.�
Aug 26, 2013
fiksegts Nissan GT-R... always wanted the Tesla....
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Aug 26, 2013
Emil Joseph 2006 black Cadillac Escalade and 2007 white Cadillac Escalade.
Driving about 30,000 km per year, the gas savings alone in my P85 made sense for me to buy it.
Delivery is slated for September 16 so I'm anxiously waiting.�
Aug 26, 2013
texex91 Very cool! When did you order it?�
Aug 26, 2013
ohaq My daily driver before was a Hyundai Elantra 2007. Still have, now my wife drives it, she is scared to drive the Tesla but loves to ride in it.
- Elon Fan, following him since I heard about roadster 2013
- I love technology.
- $7,500 tax credit.
- Be part of something unique.
- Still was too expensive for me but thanks to TSLA stock. 75% of car almost paid for (still need to sell them though lol).
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Aug 26, 2013
Ivleth thnx, I did see this forum, btw, I also own a Saab 93 2.0 Aero cabrio, tuned by hirsh etc etc, will never sell that one ;-) but yes, if it is the old Saab 95, then you don't need to say more�
Aug 26, 2013
SwedishAdvocate Agreed on the :crying: with regards to SAAB�
Here�s two other threads that seem to offer some more insights on why folks have been buying the Model S:
What it's all about
Environment as a factor in EV purchase Decision�
Aug 26, 2013
rbt3 2010 Porsche Panamera 4S
My Model S P85 is a very similar style sport sedan, but the MS is faster and cheaper to operate and has slightly more utility/space, seats 5 instead of 4. The Panamera is the best ICE sport sedan I've ever had, but I do not want another ICE car after living with the Model S for the last 4 months. When I drive around in the Model S it makes all other cars seem obsolete, the instant torque and response is fantastic, it rides great(very comfortable for such great handling), it is quieter, and I don't need premium unleaded or oil anymore! I could not be happier with a car than I have been so far with MS.�
Aug 26, 2013
ElSupreme 2007 VW GTI with 120,000 miles and two major engine repairs (both warrantied, second one because the dealer screwed up the first one).
Ever since I took a power electronics class in college I have always wondered why electric motors didn't power vehicles. By the time I finally had the resources and location to actually build an electric car the LEAF was about to arrive, and the Model S had a chance of happening. I decided to wait for a factory solution. So when pricing was announced, and I could afford one it was all over.�
Aug 26, 2013
brianstorms Black 2011 Audi Q5 3.2
Loaded: it had every upgrade, package, whistle, and bell available from the factory.
Sold in 2013 with only 27900 mi on it, to make way for Model S.
Loved the Q5, though it consistently got only 11-12 miles per gallon around town ($3750 a year of 91 octane fuel!!!). (About 22-23mpg on long freeway drives.)
Favorite features:
� Parking sensors
� Two SD card slots, which I stored 64GB of music on
� USB connector in the glove compartment, where I stored an iPod
� Nice multimedia UI and navigation system
� Articulated headlights
� Comfortable
Least favorite aspect of owning Audi:
� Service was awful, dreaded taking it in.
I really miss the parking sensors (my Model S was ordered just before they became available from Tesla). Hoping to get retrofit as long as Tesla doesn't get greedy/punitive w/ parts & labor.�
Aug 26, 2013
nrcooled I had a 2008 Subaru WRX and a 2002 Honda S2000 prior to the Model S.
I really disliked the WRX mainly because the interior was terrible, the car was slow, and the ride was horrible. It did the job for towing and having a hatch back was convenient. The S2000 on the other hand was one of the best cars I have ever owned. I just loved driving that car but the wife said no to keeping two cars anymore.
I drove a lot of other cars trying to find out if the Model S was going to be worth it and nothing came close.�
Aug 26, 2013
astrotoy I also have a LS460 but the L Exec Class 2007. In some ways a nicer car to drive (certainly more expensive). Very comfortable for long trips - an ideal chauffer car with a reclining back seat with ottoman and two massages. However, both my wife and I have more fun in the Tesla and we will probably put less than 3000 miles on the Lexus this year.�
Aug 26, 2013
cschock I replaced a 2005 Audi A6 Quattro 3.2 with all the options. Had driven and intended to buy the A7 when it came out with the Diesel engine in the US but the Model S just made it look lame. Loving it so far after 5 months and 5000+ miles.�
Aug 26, 2013
vfx Here is the thread with 455 Posts:
http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/showthread.php/8696-If-you-were-not-getting-a-Model-S-what-would-you-get
First Post from GG
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Aug 26, 2013
towman26 I had a Mercedes S550 that we leased and when we went to turn the lease we were going to keep it but MB wanted 20k more than book value so we just turned it in. That week we saw a news item about the S and decided to get it. We then waited for a little over two years for the Model S so in the mean time we stole our daughters Lexus RX350. It was most defiantly worth the wait�
Aug 27, 2013
ddruz 2011 Nissan Leaf. Before that a 2003 Honda Civic Hybrid
I'm in it for the environmental impact Tesla could potentially have on the world if they catalyze the move from ICE to EV driving more quickly.�
Aug 27, 2013
HHHH I had a Porsche 911 Turbo, and had another on order for the 2014 MY, but when I was reading about all the new Porsche changes (no more manual tranny offered, much longer wheelbase, etc.) if felt like they were losing some of the reason why I chose them since 2002 and purchased so many sports cars from them. I looked at other sports cars, (McLaren MP4-12c, etc) in the same price range, but ultimately I found that unlike Porsche, those vehicle were too flashy to be daily driven. The good thing about Porsche was that it was still semi-under the radar, since the cars range from $50k - 200k. The other competitors like McLaren were too flashy and have doors that open upwards which makes them hard to stay under the radar with. I feel that Porsche has really lost their way as of late, but I liked the ideologies of Tesla and McLaren, both offer software updates and are relatively new to the market. Since I can't daily drive the McLaren, I got the Tesla first, but after owning an EV, I don't know if the McLaren is still in the plans, unless they make an EV supercar with decent range.�
Aug 27, 2013
texex91 Great feedback from a fellow (former) Porsche owner. Thanks for input�
Aug 27, 2013
Owner Before the Model S, a Roadster for 4 years....
The Roadster replaced a Mercedes E420.�
Aug 27, 2013
Emil Joseph Put down deposit July 26th and confirmed my order August 5th.
September 16th delivery seems so far away. Hopefully it gets here early.�
Aug 27, 2013
aaron0k Honda Accord > Chevy Volt > Tesla Model S.
My decision to buy the MS was based on EV's moving this tech forward, not luxury. If I had to go back to ICE, I would go back to a reasonable Honda or Toyota; not a Lexus/BMW/Mercedes.�
Aug 27, 2013
evmile I drove a Nissan LEAF. I loved the car but I wanted more range.
I looked at the plug-in Prius but it wasn't really electric and it cost $40,000.
I thought for $50,000 I could have a Tesla Model S. Except when you look carefully you end up paying quite a bit more since you want the 80 kWh battery and most of the other options.�
Aug 27, 2013
Merrill I think this is an interesting subject, when you think about why people buy certain vehicles it gets down to your past history. I have always been into cars, my father owned a garage with my uncle and I grew up working on everything imaginable. When I met my wife at age 24 she was driving a red Alfa Romeo and I had a red Jaguar XKE. We both loved cars of any kind as long as they were fun to drive. Fast forward 40 years and we begin to look at the environment, installing solar and trying to be a bit more green in all aspects of our life. For the last 5 years I was determined to have an all electric vehicle, what was out there at the time was not quite up to the range or fun to drive category. Until the Model S, this car is so fun to drive and beautiful to look at and it is all electric. Since I have owned Jaguars since 1970, the cost was a tad more than I would have normally spent but not that much more than if I was to purchase a new Jaguar XJ sedan. My career was in the automotive business, so cars were an important part of my life. I pinch myself every time I drive the Tesla just to make sure I'm not dreaming.�
Aug 27, 2013
HHHH Thanks texex, I was originally thinking that I might just be settling because I had the new car itch, but after reading more about the Model S before I received my order, and now living with it almost a month, I have no regrets so far. I'm from Texas as well went to SMU, but have a great many friends that are Texas Exes, hook 'em horns!�
Aug 27, 2013
fiksegts Model S and McLaren go well together, go for it, you won't be disappointed...
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Aug 27, 2013
texex91 VERY NICE!! :love:�
Aug 27, 2013
HHHH I recognize you from McLaren life, I recall you had a Gray S that you sold to get your desired Red S. I'm glad you're enjoy the color you initially wanted. My wife is in medical school, and I've got some investments I'm working on, so hopefully in the next couple of years we will see something materialize in the McLaren family, hopefully by then there will be some viable supercar that is electric or something that excites the senses like the current MP4. I was so tempted to just do it the last time I was in Dallas for a test drive. They had a grey / black version, with loads of CF that I liked, I left it to fate, I figured if it was there a week later when I had my test drive I would consider it. It ended up selling the day before I got there. Everything happens for a reason�
Aug 27, 2013
AMPd I think the Model S goes better with that ford GT on the left!�
Aug 27, 2013
fiksegts grey/black looks great, very stealthy.... McLaren does have the P1 which is a hybrid supercar @ 900+ HP, but the price is insane at $1M+... they are also working on a less expensive P13 which will compete with the Porsche 911....
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true, two top of class American cars....
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Aug 28, 2013
AustinPowers That is a thing that makes me wish I lived in Holland (or Norway for that matter). The German government shows absolutely no interest in EVs, apart from speaking about how important they are and that we should have a million of them on the roads by 2022 (or somesuch). How on earth they intend to accomplish that goal is beyond me.
I drive a 2004 BMW 330 Cd, and my next car is going to be an EV for sure. I haven't decided yet which. My current favorites would be either Renault Zoe, BMW Active Tourer (albeit being a PHEV), the VW E-Golf or Tesla Gen III (Model E?).
Why do I want to change? Mainly because I think driving an EV is fun, especially on the short range commutes/errand runs I have nowadays (which was different when I bought my current car). It certainly wouldn't be for economics like with you, because my current car is very economical (and reliable), and as said above, there are hardly any incentives here for buying and owning an EV.�
Aug 28, 2013
HHHH I've been reading about the P13, P1, etc, but I will probably hold out at least two years at first anyway. Some other priorities on the horizon first, by then I'm sure wifey will want something new, although her purchases seem to be considerably less, she's got a 2009 RAV4, now. When she does get done with school it depends what part of town she works in, some of the hospitals are in the seedy parts of town, so I wouldn't want her to be driving something that even attracts a minimal amount of attention. We would probably keep the RAV4 as a backup car at that point anyway.
When I test drove the McLaren, I was really only driving it to rule it out because I was so set on the 2014 911 Turbo S, but when I drove it, I was blown away and how easily it could be daily driven and just how quickly and seemingly effortlessly it does things.�
Aug 28, 2013
ByICE [QUOTE
I drive a 2004 BMW 330 Cd, and my next car is going to be an EV for sure. I haven't decided yet which. My current favorites would be either Renault Zoe, BMW Active Tourer (albeit being a PHEV), the VW E-Golf or Tesla Gen III (Model E?).
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How about BMW i3 or i8? i3 will be available this fall.�
Aug 29, 2013
AustinPowers Nope on both. i3 imho is one of the ugliest vehicles on this planet, i8 way out of my price range plus useless for my needs (no room for family/kids/shopping), and way too flashy. I prefer vehicles that "blend in" so to speak.�
Aug 29, 2013
neroden There was an old one, but it was back in in early 2012, I think. I drove cars borrowed from family.
There were surveys on that. I voted "It's all electric".
It's literally the first car I've bought, that's how much I liked the model S.
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That's the reaction a lot of people have when I tell them how much the total cost of my car was. I suspect Model S is an easier sell in places with higher housing prices! :biggrin:
Sadly, even getting a Model S did not convince any of my family or friends to get one. The people who would like one can't afford it, and the people who can afford it... well, they haven't been convinced yet. (Sigh.)�
Aug 29, 2013
ByICE Well, Tesla does not exactly blend in....but I know what your are saying. BMW came up with that [FONT=arial, sans-serif]bi-modal trunk design and now they are trying to put that in the front.[/FONT]�
Aug 29, 2013
Kenneth chapman 2004 Infiniti g35 and 2011 Volvo XC90 for me - trading in the g35 and won't use the Volvo now with the model s hugeness.
bought it because technology is my passion, especially when leveraged to improve the human condition. I believe Elon and team have created a special car, brand, and hopefully movement and I'm happy to be a tiny part of it.
9 days to delivery.....�
Aug 30, 2013
AustinPowers About Tesla, well the roadster is flashy, but Model S it think really blends in. At least here where there are quite a few Jaguar XF, Maserati QP and some Japanese coupes on the road which look quite similar from a distance. Of course it's a huge car, but by "blending in" I meant styling-wise, not size-wise.
One has to admit that an i3 or i8 really stands out, even a Zoe with its blue light accents is quite a head-turner (at least at the moment, perhaps not anymore so in a few years).�
Aug 30, 2013
mknox Reminds me of this:
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Aug 30, 2013
texex91 And don't shoot the messenger, but I think the X kinda looks like Aztec--just saying.
No angry replies necessary, just my opinion. LOVE the S though! :biggrin:�
Aug 30, 2013
JGard While I don't have an S, yet, I do plan on it within the next two years, I feel like I'm the only one here w/o a luxury car past, which is amusing. I currently have a '13 Tundra, last car was an 09 WRX, and before that was an Acura RDX (so I guess that's almost a luxury car).
It's going to be tough to part with a truck, but I bought it when I commuted exclusively via motorcycle, and now that I'm in Austin, that isn't the case, so a Model S would be a wonderful commuter compared to a 14mpg V8 truck.�
Aug 30, 2013
Gynob001 I drove a 2012 Lincoln MKZ hybrid (a great car). I was attracted to Tesla's technology attracted me. But I feel disappointed by poor attention to navigation, voice technology, central console etc. It is a high priced toy and hopefully it will keep me amused.�
Aug 30, 2013
Zextraterrestrial toy, funny
I used to drive a Toy Rav4. The S is better for everything except deep snow.
more dog room, more room for hardware store trips, fast, fun, quiet, better road trip car
navigation sucks as of now but it will be better soon. only complaint�
Aug 30, 2013
AMN We didn't really sell anything to buy the Tesla... yet.
We have a 2009 911 Turbo with about 800HP and a 2013 ML63. The ML will be the first thing to go even though the car is absolutely fantastic - it just isn't driven much. It will be traded in for the Model X next year, so we have a winter car with higher than Model S ground clearance for days or weeks when Minnesota weather isn't cooperating.�
Aug 30, 2013
Borgie I wanted to buy the Model S from the first moment I heard about it. Great story, and turns out it's a great car also. I was drawn to it by the backstory, but the car has proved to be much, much more than I had anticipated. My other cars are a 2009 Porsche Cayenne Turbo (which I am selling) and a 2010 Audi R8 4.2. I have great respect for the Cayenne, as it can act like much more than an SUV. And I love the R8. Lot's of drama without problems. Very neutral and very sweet once the revs are up over 5-6K (and the exhaust note is NICE). However, I find myself driving the Model S almost exclusively. It is clearly what the ideal car should be. The instant acceleration is absolutely amazing and even a great ICE like the R8 can't compare.
Can't wait for a new sports car from Tesla!�
Aug 30, 2013
Mayhemm While I don't see the Aztec comparison, I do think the Model X resembles a Model S that has led too cushy a life and has let itself go. :tongue:
Yet, I still have a reservation...�
Aug 30, 2013
jvonbokel This thread may not be representative, because I know I've seen a broader variety of examples in the past. Personally, I drove a '97 S-10 Pickup before my Model S.
'89 Chevy S-10 ($800) -> 2000 Dodge Dakota ($8k) -> 2000 Mazda Protege ($6k) -> '97 Chevy S-10 ($4k) -> 2012 Tesla Model S
If it weren't for the Model S, I probably would've bought a Mustang GT, and possibly kept the S-10.�
Aug 30, 2013
ByICE Do you have a reservation for reservation or just a reservation? :wink:�
Aug 30, 2013
Mayhemm Just a plain, old, everyday reservation. Nothing special, you know. :biggrin:�
Aug 30, 2013
kirkp 2012 Infiniti M35h Hybrid: Great car, best luxury-performance hybrid IMO, 360 HP, 28-30 real-MPG, 0-60 MPH in 5s, 7-sp. auto, heated & cooled seats, adaptive cruise, blind spot warning, fabulous interior, up to 70 mph on electric-power alone, etc. Very similar in overall size to the Model S.
My biggest complaint w/ the Infiniti was responsiveness at-speed, and is common to all modern multi-speed auto-equipped cars -- when you need to make a quick lane change or other fast move, having to wait even a few fractions of a second for the transmission to down-shift 3-4 gears (not to mention possibly kicking in the gas engine over the electric) seems interminable, and is potentially dangerous. While the Infiniti was very quick off-the-line when the transmission is simply sequentially shifting up, it's a totally different story in more-typical stop-and-go driving. After I test drove the Tesla, the Infiniti seemed to always be in the wrong gear for any quick-acceleration while moving. And while the Infiniti interior is like a plush Gentlemen's club, all cushy leather & fine wood, the Tesla is much more open and modern. The Infiniti user interface is quite good, but I counted over 60 buttons on its dash versus two on the Tesla. Enough said there�
My other ICE car (which I still own for the occasional longer trips until the Tesla SC network is fully built-out) is a 2005 Mercedes C55 AMG. The AMG is a super-car by any measure, 367 HP normally-aspirated V8, 5-sp Speed-Shift auto, 0-60 MPH in 4.8s, even rarer than the Model S w/ only 1,299 built for my MY. But damn, even it feels sluggish compared to the Tesla, again the fault of having to wait for even a fast transmission to downshift and the ICE to come into its power-band. I told this to a friend of mine who has owned multiple AMGs and she was incredulous; but after riding w/ me she had to agree. Who'd have believed any car could make an AMG feel "sluggish"?
I've driven quite a few other very nice cars: MB SLS AMG, MB SL65 AMG, Audi R8, Ferrari F430, etc., Now they're all-like, blah� The Tesla Model S is the new dream-car to strive for.
Nothing compares to the Tesla Model S for me. I look forward to seeing all the other luxury gadgets like adaptive cruise, auto-braking, lane-keeping, night-vision, eventually migrate to the Tesla; but for now, the Tesla's superior driving experience and service is all I need.
The Tesla Model S is a total game-changer, and I was fortunate enough to have been well-positioned in TSLA stock options to pay for my P85 after their 2013 Q1 Earnings Report.
This is an expensive car, and is embarrassing to discuss w/ coworkers without seeming to brag. But gosh, is it better to be totally quiet about it, or to at least advise your colleagues about its historical significance & future potential?
I'm not a one-percenter, barely into the six-figure income bracket myself, and this is by-far the most expensive car I've ever bought. But I've never over-indulged myself before, and I was able to now thanks to good-fortune in TSLA stock options, so I figured WTH, I'm never getting any younger�
My dream-car for-free, I doubt I'll ever do better than this.�
Aug 31, 2013
Cottonwood Not exactly my drive before the MS, but all of these great cars got me thinking of when I first got my hands on an electric car...
First a little background, I was a Freshman at MIT in the early 70's, and got a part-time job at the Francis Bitter Magnet Laboratory. This was a place that just exuded electric power to make magnetic fields. They had their own electric substation and kept a part of the Charles River ice free in the winter with the waste heat from the experiments! My student supervisor was Sumner Brown, who it turns out was a member of the MIT team that was in the MIT/Cal Tech Electric Car Race. Its great that they used the term Supercharger in the 60's for their 400 Amp connections.
With this background, Professor Thornton contacted Sumner to ask him to get an old, donated electric car running for some show that they were doing in the early 70's. I don't remember the exact car, but it was something like an early electric car owned by Edison. We reverse engineered the circuits, and put in some fresh lead acid batteries, before going for a test drive. What was completely amazing was that as I recreated the wiring diagram between the batteries and motor, Sumner and I realized that the 1910-somthing electric car had regenerative braking! It was quite a thrill at age 20 to hear the relays click and know that the deceleration was recharging the batteries in a car designed in the 1910's!
It is an incredible pleasure to own a Roadster and an MS today!�
Aug 31, 2013
paulkva When I pick up my Model S in a week or two, I will sell a 2004 Mazda 6 wagon which I bought new, so I'm also in the "non-luxury past" group. In fact, the base S60 price is more than what I paid for all other cars I've ever bought for myself (2 new and 3 used)... combined. Although before I decided on the Model S, I was looking at "entry-level" luxury cars like the Infiniti G37 and Lexus IS350.
Why the Model S? Kind of a long story...
I test-drove it on a whim, really, because I was curious and it sounded interesting. I had been hoping for a fun-to-drive car that got decent gas mileage, but I thought the S would be way out of reach. Of course the test drive blew me away, and I just couldn't stop thinking about it from that point forward. I also had a non-Tesla investment pay off around the same time, so suddenly the S was quite a bit more accessible to me.
I test-drove the Lexus IS before and after the Model S -- after because of the new model year and because I was still wrapping my head around the idea of buying a Tesla -- and I was thoroughly underwhelmed the second time. The awesome luxury car (at least from the perspective of owning an 8-year-old Mazda wagon) suddenly felt clunky and noisy, and it threw off SO much heat while idling.
I talked with a couple friends about it, and one recommended I try driving other higher-end cars for a fairer comparison. But I never did, in part because I still couldn't justify spending $70K+ on a car whose maintenance and fuel bills would also be proportionately higher than the Mazda, and in part because so many people here and on teslamotors.com were comparing the Model S so favorably against $100K+ cars.
I had to schedule a second Model S test drive to convince my wife -- I was just as blown away the second time, and for her it was the only car I had tested where she couldn't find anything she didn't like. We placed the order immediately after the second test-drive.
A few days later, I happened to drive a Ferrari F430 around a test track (my wife gave me a "dream car sprint" for Father's Day, which she planned before I had expressed interest in the Tesla). While it was a ton of fun, I could never see myself owning a Ferrari, and the P85 test car was about as much fun for me.�
Aug 31, 2013
AudubonB Cottonwood: that is a GREAT story. Love it!!!!
Me:
1. F-350 diesel crew cab long bed pickup (2008). Not giving it up....expect it to haul the Model S to/from AK & AZ. It's also got our camper atop it...sometimes. Model S "camping" doesn't quite do it here.
2. F-250 (1998) flatbed. It's my plow truck and "yard machine", so not giving it up.
3. VW Golf TDI (ie, diesel) (2006). It gets just under 50mpg to/from Fairbanks or Anchorage, so not giving it up.
4. E-350 12-passenger van - diesel. It's great for hauling lots of guests around on our nature tours, so not giving it up.
5. 1980 BJ-40 Toyota Land Cruiser. NOT an "FJ-40" - that's a gasser. This is a diesel, and rare as hen's teeth, and it's great fun here, so not giving it up.
6. 1996 Subaru Legacy Outback. That's Jenny's, so can't give that up!
So...I guess...in the words of
1. Tim Allen/Jason Nesmith/Cmdr. Peter Quincy Taggart ("Galaxy Quest"): NEVER give up! NEVER surrender"
and
2. Shania Twain "I....ain't...no quitter"
I guess I just am not giving up any of them!�
Aug 31, 2013
RclKag 2003 Mini Cooper S loaded (with NAV(rare)), for nice days, ( go-cart on rails ), still have it for longer distance trips.
2003 Hummer H2 for not nice days, sold few years back, replaced with 1999 4Runner Ltd just in case the weather gets ugly.
I do collision/painting repairs, so no better way to understand/repair EV's than to own one!�
Sep 1, 2013
sgblank Last 20 years:
two Lexus LS 400's > two Jaguar XJR's > Porsche Panamera 4S > Model S P85�
Sep 2, 2013
SwedishAdvocate More reasons why people are buying the Model S in this thread:
Would you have bought your Model S if it wasn't electric?�
Sep 2, 2013
NoMoDinos What a great story! Thanks for sharing some history, too.�
Sep 3, 2013
AC1K History looks like this
2002 Mazda protege 5 (~18yr old)
2010 Hyundai Genesis Coupe 3.8 (26)
2013 Tesla Model S (30)
for me every new car must be an upgrade in the majority of its specs or else i wont buy it (it would feel like a downgrade otherwise), brand names and looks are not really anything i consider, only specs.
Power 130HP > 306HP > 416HP
Torque 135 > 266 > 443
0-60 8.9s > 5.5s > 3.9s
1/4 16.5s > 14.0s > 12.3s
Braking 60-0 116ft > 109ft > 108ft
Wheels 16/17" > 18" > 21"
Drag coeff 0.32 > 0.32 > 0.24
FWD > RWD W/ LSD > RWD /w Open Diff
5spd > 6spd > 1spd
Warranty 3yr > 5yr > 4yr
Gas millage 27 > 25 > 129 (yes i can squeeze 129MPGe in the tesla if i drive normally)
Bluetooth No > yes > yes w/ A2DP
USB 1x USB> 1x USB > 2x USB
HID No > Yes > Yes w/ LED DRL
Sunroof No > Yes > Pano
2.5" Screen > 4" Screen > 17" Touch screen
Ultrasuede racing seats > Heated Leather > Heated napa leather with ultrasuede/alcantara
Regular Key > Push button engine start > no engine
really big trunk (it was a hatch back) > small trunk > 2 trunks
Seats 5 > 4 > 7
Will there be an upgrade to the tesla? not anytime soon unless some car has more than 416HP and better than 129MPGe
i do miss my old vehicles though,
the protege5 had the best stereo (1000W RMS total power), it also had the best handling out of any car ive ever driven, the suspension was so tight after modification i could slalom at over 72mph,
after installing 17" wheels with BFG gsport comp rubber, tokico racing shocks, eibach springs, tie bars, strut bars and a massive rear anti-sway bar it could corner so hard i would get too scared before the car let loose took a 2 turn lane downtown corner at over 90kph and the wheels wouldnt even squeal
the genesis had the best seats and also the quietest sunroof in vent mode�
Sep 5, 2013
bareyb I had an 87 Corvette before the kids came... It's been SUV's ever since. This (will be) the first fun car I've had in 14 years.�
Sep 5, 2013
Mario Kadastik Looked through this thread, but seems no-one reported abandoning an Evo yet
Even though Estonia is a tiny country, the two major cities are separated by 190km. Driving back and forth is 380km and for real I'd not really want to charge EVERY time I have to take the trip. So the only car so far that can do this trip also in the dead cold winter is the Model S with 85kWh battery. And this is a tiny country!�
Sep 5, 2013
mnx FWIW I wouldn't count on getting 380km range in the dead of winter.
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Sep 5, 2013
Mayhemm Yes, you may end up having to charge each time after all (in the winter anyway). In cold weather, 300-350km range is more realistic unless you drive super slow.�
Sep 5, 2013
Mario Kadastik From what I was told the outside temp will reduce the range by around 10%, the use of heaters another ~10%. The highway speed is ~90 km/h so around the Tesla rated 88km/h. So doing the math 480*0.8 = 384. I'd need to be ~100% efficient at the rated miles to get there. Then again, if I see that I'm slightly running low I can reduce the speed to ~80 on the leg back home in part or I will only need a short plugin at my destination (1-2h at standard plug getting 20km/h of recharge). However that assumes that indeed the winter conditions take off 20% of the range
In any case, with my Evo X I'm hard pressed to fit the round-trip to a full tank, I usually need to refuel (it for sure isn't an economic car). In the case of Tesla I can start from home with full tank and don't need to make a longer stop than usual refueling to cover the missing km�
Sep 5, 2013
Mayhemm Oh, don't get me wrong. It's definitely doable. You just may have to be extra cautious. (keep one eye on the trip meter :biggrin�
Sep 16, 2013
SFLCEO The last 5 cars in my household over the last 5 years:
2009 Mercedes CLS63 AMG (518hp)
2009 Mercedes SL63 AMG Renntech (640hp)
2008 Mercedes CL65 AMG Renntech (720hp)
2010 Mercedes E63 AMG (518hp)
2013 Mercedes GLK350 (302hp)
Most of these were my daily drivers at one point or another.
I am taking delivery on a loaded P85+ Tomorrow morning (9/17) at 10am!
Needless to say I'm chomping at the bit!!�
Sep 16, 2013
texex91 Your MB dealer is going to be very disappointed :biggrin:�
Sep 16, 2013
brianman @SFLCEO
It's a bit OT perhaps, but I'm interested in "more color" (yes, I'm looking forward to earnings) on the horsepower trend in your prior 5.
Also, welcome to the forum!�
Sep 16, 2013
SFLCEO Lol, my BMW dealer was disappointed when I moved from an M5 to AMGs, so I guess it's time for the Mercedes dealer.
Of all the cars, my favorite was the SL63, which had full renntech mods and snarled like a beast! you could here it coming for miles.
And the CL65 was a monster, but a serious sleeper.
I am sure that the performance of the P85+ will equal any of them, but I will miss the sounds.
Hopefully the high end audio will be a worthy replacement...
Stay tuned... I plan on adding to the first impressions thread.
Thanks all!�
Sep 16, 2013
texex91 Don't count on that. You can do a search--sound system is pretty poor (IMHO very poor for price of car).
However, someone like you might want to search forum, and look for Reus Systems, which does an amazing (from what people say) after market specific for Telsa for about $4K.
BTW--congrats and post pics when you get it!�
Sep 16, 2013
bareyb Congratulations! This is gong to be one long day for you!�
Sep 16, 2013
Gizmotoy Same situation here, same car. Love the Evo. Great ride. Starting to feel it's time to move on, though. Fortunately it's retained over 80% of its value, so it was probably the lowest overall cost of ownership of any car I've ever purchased. What I've struggled with is trying to find the next car. The Evo/STI spoil you on performance so badly, you can't find anything within tens of thousands of dollars that can match the performance.
I drove a P85 yesterday, and it was pretty amazing. It didn't feel anywhere near as tight or communicative as the Evo, but it was definitely a bit faster (Evos post mid 4-second 0-60 times stock). It's 3x the price, but it's a hell of a lot nicer inside. The Evo is a $14k Lancer with a $15k drive train upgrade dropped in and it shows.
I'm thinking I'm going to go with a standard 85, which from what I've seen should be faster at speed but slightly slower off the line and around the bends. And it doesn't gulp gas at 14mpg in town either. Ideally the P85+ would be my selection, but at a $23,500 premium over the 85 I'm looking at, it's hard to justify (Plus requires 21" wheels and Air Suspension, which I hadn't planned on getting). If the Performance model still included those things it would probably be a whole different ballgame.
Anyway, which one did you end up selecting?�
Sep 16, 2013
SFLCEO Thanks, I'll look into it...�
Sep 16, 2013
earlyretirement Drove an Audi Q7 TDI before the Model S. I gave that to my wife and we got rid of her BMW 335i.
Before the Model S I didn't like driving and looked at cars as getting from point A to point B. Tesla changed all of that. I like driving now.�
Sep 16, 2013
Mario Kadastik I ended up going with the S85, with tech package, but without air suspenders and with 19" wheels. The only thing that'll require getting used to is the rear wheel drive as both the Evo as well as it's predecessor the STI that I drove had some of the best AWD on the market. And the winters here can be harsh, but can't wait for the Model X (the subsistence for EV-s runs out next year).
And indeed, the Evo is a guzzler, 14-17 mpg for ordinary driving is no surprise, only highway cruising can get you maybe 20 mpg. The max I can go on one tank is ~350-400km which is well short of the S85 range and I rarely need to fill up on a trip therefore I already know that I won't have an issue with the S85. And being used to the spartan "comforts" of an Evo X I think the interior of the S will be far superior�
Sep 16, 2013
SwedishAdvocate There�s some discussion about the 19�� wheels and the different suspensions here:
The Factory Still Does Not Have the Frunk Lid Sorted - Page 2 ...and in the rest of that thread,
& here:
P85+ with 19 wheels�
Sep 16, 2013
lczand Porsche 996 C4. Porsche now seems sluggish after driving my P85+.�
Dec 8, 2013
rickbecker I will be driving a Nissan LEAF for the next 15 days. Have had the LEAF since 4/15/11 and love it. It is time to get a big boys car!�
Dec 8, 2013
Seven7 The price we all pay for oil, and I'm not talking about the money spent at the pump, some of that money finds it's way into the pockets of people who would like to kill us and the unnesecary wars we have to fight for the privilige of paying $100 a barrel for that oil, and it's only going up, wait till saudi has an arab spring, then the oil price is going to hit the fan.
ETA: I formerly drove a 08 Corvette.�
Dec 9, 2013
bareyb I read somewhere that our Government has spent over a TRILLION dollars defending the Oil Shipping Lanes for Exxon and the like for years. Exxon is the wealthiest, most profitable company in the entire WORLD. Can't they afford to pay for their own Security? Can you imagine the good that could be done with that Trillion dollars? Just to put that number in perspective, it's enough money to feed every starving person in the entire World for the rest of their lives� Something to think about for sure. We are all doing our part. I just hope the rest of the World wakes up soon��
Dec 9, 2013
mknox At the new Toronto Store/Service Center grand opening the other night, Tesla was filming customers and asking this exact same question. I'm not sure when or where the video is going to get posted, but my answers were something to the effect:
I previously drove a Cadillac CTS.
I bought the Model S primarily because I was spending $80 every four days on gasoline and now I spend about $70 a month on electricity.�
Dec 10, 2013
Captain Ducman ^^THIS^^
Hear Hear 77
As well as it being one of the Hottest, Classiest, Fastest, Most Elegant, Grin Inducing cars on the market. It's like the girlfriend you're allowed to bring home - and your wife likes her too =) (too much?)�
Dec 10, 2013
mknox Sorry, but this bugs me a bit. The vast majority of the US's imported oil comes from Canada and most of us do not want to kill you. On top of that, US production itself topped imports in 2013. There's lots of reasons for getting off oil, but it always bothers me whenever the "terrorist" card is played in these conversations.�
Dec 10, 2013
howardc64 All new (or used) car acquisitions are due to wife's taste for different car every 3 years. Her last 4 cars are
Honda Odyssey -> Volvo V70 T5 -> Volvo V70XC -> Prius -> MS85
Got the MS85 because she loves the car, a used one fell in our lap at a great price, and time to enjoy life a little after kids are reaching teenage. I hope the MS85 last more than 3 years haha
As for me... I walk 1 mile to/from the bus stop and ride for free using the work's transit card. When I'm disciplined enough to do so
Oh and we've not been to a gas station in like 3 weeks even with 3 ICE cars with MS85 charging at home and me taking the bus! Need to sell a couple of ICE cars�
Dec 11, 2013
Seven7 Yes, you are correct, the majority of the US oil comes from Canada, but some oil still comes from the middle east, I'm guess I'm still pissed about 9/11 but I certainly don't blame the Canadians.
ETA: I would rather the US (along with the rest of the world) didn't import oil from anybody...�
Dec 11, 2013
ChadS Mknox is correct that most US oil imports come from Canada.
But oil is a global commodity. Price is set on the global market. Canadian oil costs more than middle eastern oil to extract - between that and higher volume, the middle east gets most of the profits. The US can buy oil from Canada and say we're not supporting the middle east, but unless everybody else agrees to boycott the middle east too, buying from Canada doesn't matter because absolutely nothing of significance changes - not the price, nor who supplies or receives how much oil, nor who gets the profits (which is mostly not terrorists, but they do get a small but nevertheless problematic slice. Incidentally, it's not just the money that causes problems - it's also that Western powers have been interfering in Middle East affairs since WWII - actually before that, but only heavily since then - because of oil. I know some people have heard that's not true; please read historian Yergin's Pulitzer-winning "The Prize"). Nor our susceptibility to supply shortages. The only thing that changes is the routing of flow from supplier to consumer.
So it doesn't matter who we buy from - the fact that we buy at all props up the price, takes money out of our economy, and puts money elsewhere - much more in to the Middle East than Canada. Like Seven says, it is better to not import the stuff at all. (Best is to replace even domestic supplies with something else that is cheaper, cleaner, more flexible, and will last longer).�
Dec 11, 2013
SwedishAdvocate Some more in support of what ChadS and 77 have written above:
The piece below is a couple of years old, but there�s still a lot of fundamentalist militant Islamist groups out there: Al-Shabaab in Somalia, Boko Haram in Nigeria, Al-Qaeda in Jemen, Iraq and the Maghreb. They�re in Syria as well, and it makes you wonder about their financing� as well as all the fundamentalist Madrassas all over the Middle East (Toppling al-Assad in Syria would be great, but if parts of Syria end up under Al-Qaeda, then that will most certainly be even worse�).
I also remember a program on Swedish Public Service Radio about, or partly about US foreign policy and the Middle East. There was an interview with former CIA case officer Robert Baer. And according to Bear, one of the worst kept US foreign policy �secrets� is that if anything ever happens to the current Saudi regime � which in the name of democracy of course would be as awesome as it gets � then, no matter what, the US is going to have boots on the ground ASAP in Saudi Arabia to protect the Saudi Oil Industry��
Dec 11, 2013
AEdennis Just getting this thread back on track...
I drove a BMW Active E. I was supposed to choose something else after I return the Active E to BMW (not allowed to keep it) and really was choosing between an i3 or a Fiat 500e... But neither was appealing to the better half. The Model S was going to be her car, until she saw and fell in love with her CPO Roadster AFTER we finalized our order for the S... As a result, no BMWi i3 (this may still be negotiable depending on the deal from BMWi) or Fiat 500e for me...
The reason is... EVs are just too much fun... Any EV (including the maligned Mitsubishi iMiEV or no longer produced Coda) are quick and fun to drive. Some are just more fun than others.
However, it also helps that I can use the HOV solo until 2019 in California and I spend next to nothing on "fuel" with the Solar PV that I installed on my roof last year. I've found myself Accidentally Environmental rather than just mental.�
Dec 12, 2013
Lycanthrope Apologies for the long post, executive summary:
- Coming from a Volvo XC90 diesel
- It's tech
- It's beautiful
- It's FAST
- It's practical enough for a three kid family
- It sort of green (no car is actually green, I realise that)
- Couldn't afford to buy it myself, but it's quite a "sensible" purchase as a company car
Long version:
I'm about to order a 19" fully loaded P85 - will go for it this weekend :smile:
Currently I have a Volvo MY2011 XC90 2.4 diesel Executive - so that's will every possible gadget on it, but it's a very old design and despite being extremely comfortable on the motorway, it's a real tractor. We bought it as I wanted to depreciate an expensive car as a business purchase as it was a well used tax saving in Blegium, plus wifey being Danish liked the idea of a safe Scandi car.
Then the Belgian government changed from centre-right to centre-left and one of the first things they did was to dramatically increase the benefit in kind of company cars based on cost and CO2 emissions. All of a sudden the Volvo because very expensive and I started to regret it.
A friend (who drives a Fisker Karma) sent me a link at the time of the MX unveiling and I was deeply interested. I'm quite a fan of Apple products and only buy organic food, so not surprising that the Tesla appealed, but with the production of the MX so far away I basically forgot about it.
Then, a few months back I happened to pass by a newly opened Tesla showroom here in Brussels and went in to look at the MS. I couldn't believe how spacious and practical it was - I hadn't even considered it an option before, but here was a car that could seat the whole family with a decent amount of luggage and could get us from home and back anywhere in this funny little country we live in on a single charge. Of course we go farther a field four or five times per year: up to Denmark, to Holland, Proven�e, the usual stuff, but then when I saw the plans for the SC network I got the idea it might be feasible.
Next step was the first test drive and I can tell you that if you've never driven MS then you're just not prepared for the "Ohm-my-god" factor when you press the throttle. I couldn't believe it. Even more unbelievable was that my wife liked it - she said it was the first car she'd been a passenger in where she didn't feel sick - must be a combination of the smoothness of the delivery and the air suspension. She fully supported my desire to buy one.
Next came the finances and when I worked it all out on paper, with the various incentives it was about the same cost to my company as my current Volvo. Here in Belgium you still have to pay the VAT, but you can claim 120% of the cost as a business expense (there's a rumour this will increase to 150% next year). Furthermore, there's no tax when you register the car and the annual road tax is very low. Factor in the savings on diesel and it's a compelling case, further factor in the fact that the benefit in kind is dramatically reduced and your in profit.
Early in the New Year, Volvo will be up for sale. I've never been so excited about a car in my life and never could have imagined to have been able to afford such a car, in fact it's only feasible as I have my own company and the tax laws are very favourable for it.
Basically all the stars aligned for me.�
Dec 12, 2013
NoMoreGas Congrats Lycanthrope, sounds like a no brainer to me! No doubt you will enjoy it for years. I'm picking up on the 20th. That first test drive did me in, I was hooked. I'll be posting pics soon. As to your question of what type of car I had before, I drove a 2011 BMW 535i which my wife wants to keep. So I traded her 2008 BMW 535i in on the Tesla.�
Dec 13, 2013
Apoclyps I've only owned 2 cars in my life. both were bought used (albeit from family members).
1991 Honda Prelude
2003 Nissan 350z
I was in the market to buy a brand new car, one which I could say I was the very first owner. But really couldn't figure out what I wanted. When I read about the Model S, the tech and design of the car intrigued me to a point of obsession, and I absolutely wanted to buy (and be a part of the first year production owners). But then the sticker shock hit, and I had to cut out a lot in order to afford one. Even had to rent out a room to help pay for the car (would have been a good idea had I chosen a compatible housemate). Wish I had more money to add the things I wanted.�
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