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Inside Tesla part 1

  • May 29, 2012
    Citizen-T
  • May 29, 2012
    dsm363
    So cool! They're right, you really don't get a sense of scale on the presses unless you're standing next to them. It's impressive. How they managed to move some of those from Detroit to Fremont, CA is beyond me.
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  • May 29, 2012
    ibcs
    If I remember right, one of the large presses was from Saturn and it came from Georgia. They had to disassemble parts to be able to make the journey. So neat to see it all coming together.
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  • May 29, 2012
    erha
    I love the last part. Looks like they are going to announce something cool. I guess it's a network of fast charging stations
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  • May 29, 2012
    AnOutsider
    Yeah, the train tracks actually ran up to the factory. IIRC, they had to lower the floor of the factory to get the behemoths in there. The only ":(" part of this post for me was that it said you'd get your email approximately 4 months prior to delivery. It was 3 months previously, and most were hoping for sooner than that. Boo indeed.
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  • May 29, 2012
    Lloyd
  • May 29, 2012
    Citizen-T
  • May 29, 2012
    NigelM
    It's most likely just related to the increasing numbers as Tesla ramps up production and won't impact the actual delivery dates. You'll be getting your mail pretty soon.
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  • May 29, 2012
    Norbert
    Maybe the difference between 4 and 3 months is just the 30 days (or so) you have to decide, after receiving the email.
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  • May 29, 2012
    NigelM
  • May 29, 2012
    doug
  • May 29, 2012
    Zorba
    I'm loving how Tesla keeps us informed, this is just amazing ...
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  • May 29, 2012
    gg_got_a_tesla
    The video could pass off as a movie trailer for Transformers 4 ;) Great production values!

    Thanks, GeorgeB; looking forward to next Tuesday already!
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  • May 29, 2012
    drbradfo
    I liked how light the panels appear based on how they are picked up by the workers at the end.
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  • May 29, 2012
    ibcs
    My favorite part is that a single man is picking up a completed door frame without trouble. Try that with any other car door and you will be struggling.
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  • May 29, 2012
    LuckyLuke
    Well, its only a aluminum sheet after all. The rest will be added in a later stage.
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  • May 29, 2012
    goyogi
    Dramatic music like the cold weather testing video. This one sounded like a Batman soundtrack. Is this going to be the next batmobile. ;)
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  • May 29, 2012
    NigelM
    No, it'll be cooler.....and faster!:biggrin:
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  • May 29, 2012
    vfx
    One thousand pounds of pressure?
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  • May 29, 2012
    Robert.Boston
    I'm assuming that's "per square inch", but I may be wrong.
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  • May 29, 2012
    loganss
    Very nice video!
    Glad Tesla is giving us an inside look at the factory. As each day passes by I'm happier I put my deposit in. Wish I did it sooner.
    Now I've got to try and prevent myself to committing to even more that I can't afford as far as options go.
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  • May 30, 2012
    grisnjam
    Tesla's video work is far better then SpaceX's ...
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  • May 30, 2012
    Lloyd
    Watching the Video, I want to ask someone: How many individual metal stampings are necessary to construct 1 model S? Did anyone ask this at the Fremont event and Factory Tour?
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  • May 30, 2012
    gg_got_a_tesla
    Isn't it 11?

    - 4 doors
    - 2 front quarter-panels
    - 2 rear quarter-panels
    - hood
    - rear lift-gate
    - roof
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  • May 30, 2012
    dsm363
    No, I think it's the car that goes to 11:smile:
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  • May 30, 2012
    drbradfo
    plus a bunch of stampings for frame.
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  • May 30, 2012
    Robert.Boston
    +2 for the A-pillars
    +whatever for the underbody, wheel wells, so forth.
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  • May 30, 2012
    sp4rk
    The amazing part to me is that it appears QUIET, like the cars.

    While there was considerable mood music, the workers were not wearing ear protection so it must be.

    I expected stamping to be noisy enough to be heard in SF.
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  • May 30, 2012
    tomanik
    The gallery photos have a picture of the dies which each seem to have numbers on them as well as several rows of dies sitting.

    Inside Tesla 5/29/2012 - Stamping Line | Flickr - Photo Sharing!

    In the photo you can see a numbers 22, 23, 24, 25 and 51. Does necessarily mean there are 51 dies but I would expect somewhere around that number.
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  • May 30, 2012
    tdelta1000
    I liked the first run of the "Inside Tesla" blog. It answered a few questions that I had and I look forward to the next installment.
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  • May 30, 2012
    Doug_G
    It wasn't at all noisy during the factory event. They weren't pressing any metal but all the machines were running.
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  • May 30, 2012
    Jaff
    Are you referring to the force of the stampings Eric?


    "Our state-of-the-art Kuka robots move aluminum blanks into the press, and then, using over one thousand tons of force, the blank is formed, trimmed and pierced. It�s very impressive to watch as flat aluminum blanks go in one side and shaped, paint-ready panels come out the other."


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  • May 30, 2012
    Lloyd
    One thousand Tons is correct. These machines were made to stamp steel parts. The aluminum is a piece of cake for this and really overkill.
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  • May 30, 2012
    Doug_G
    And I thought they were making neutronium parts...
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  • May 30, 2012
    Lloyd
    Stamped with Unobtanium dies!
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  • May 30, 2012
    vfx
    So I misread AND mistyped it.

    Sorry!

    Just used to smaller measurement scales I guess.
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  • May 30, 2012
    XrstalLens
    I'm pretty sure many/most/all of the structural components (i.e. the frame of the car) are also stamped, and who knows how many of those there are. Plus you have things like the floor of the trunk and frunk, the firewall (if they call it that on the Model S), etc.
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  • May 30, 2012
    drbradfo
    I do wonder what they call it. frunk wall?
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  • May 30, 2012
    Beaker
    During the tour our guide told our group that it takes more than one press to form a completed part. in the Video you can see that there are multiple places for stamping in in just the stamper which was shown, even though we only get to see one of the presses in action.
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  • May 30, 2012
    Grendal
    The Electro-wall? Sizzle Wall? Or lastly...the Zapwall. :redface:

    Sorry.
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  • May 30, 2012
    Tommy
    Tesla had a poster showing the number of metal stampings needed to construct the model S. Fortuitously, someone snapped a photo of that poster and thou a bit blurry, the total count appears to be 83!

    View attachment 6456
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  • May 30, 2012
    Lloyd
    Very cool.... Thanks!
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  • May 31, 2012
    KBF
    I count 74 from the poster, but it is a little fuzzy.
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  • May 31, 2012
    ElSupreme
    It looks like 22 + 38 + 19 + 4 = 83.

    22 - Schuler Press line - Outer Sheet metal
    38 - 3A Press line - Body Structure
    19 - 4D Press line - Smaller Body Structure
    4 - 1B Press line - High strength STEEL Body Structure

    The steel looks like the 'B' pillars this is sort of fuzzy.
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  • May 31, 2012
    KBF
    I see 10 instead of 19, and 4 instead of 3, but you may be right (although my Galaxy Note has a decent screen) :)
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  • May 31, 2012
    KBF
    We need, "enhance!" :D
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  • May 31, 2012
    VolkerP
    Enlarge will do the job, too. I read 19 and 4.
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  • May 31, 2012
    Zorba
    19 and 4 indeed :)
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  • May 31, 2012
    tdelta1000
    Though the photo is low quality, it yields maximum information.
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  • May 31, 2012
    dsm363
    Here's a slightly higher quality picture I took of same thing. Lighting isn't great so it's not a lot better. IMG_5127.jpg
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  • Jun 1, 2012
    KBF
    Ah, I see it now :) thank you.
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  • Jun 5, 2012
    Kevin Harney
    I am not seeing an update today but I am on the east coast so maybe that is the problem. ?!??!
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  • Jun 5, 2012
    NigelM
    Expect early afternoon EST.
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  • Jun 5, 2012
    Citizen-T
    Yeah, remember, it is still really early in the land of Tesla.
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  • Jun 5, 2012
    Discoducky
    Anticipation is killing me. Stayed up to 12:01am last night.
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  • Jun 5, 2012
    AnOutsider
    Yeah, I think last week it was between noon and 1 EST (which would be about 9-10am over there)
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  • Jun 5, 2012
    gg_got_a_tesla
    Yup, they've got to have lunch first over here :)
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  • Jun 5, 2012
    drbradfo
  • Jun 5, 2012
    NigelM
  • Jun 5, 2012
    mlascano
    From today's Inside Tesla - 06.05.12 | Blog | Tesla Motors post:

    So deliveries have started!! :biggrin:

    I'm assuming the first one is Jurvetson's followed by Elon's. I was expecting these to be the first two to be delivered on 6/22 as part of the Founders' series, maybe they will be delivering a few Special Sigs that day?
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  • Jun 5, 2012
    NigelM
    Odd that Tesla headlines the front page with "Domo Arigato, Mr Roboto"....I know about the Styx and the catchphrase and all, but the robots are all "Kuka" which is a German company.....
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  • Jun 5, 2012
    widodh
    As you wish :)
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  • Jun 5, 2012
    Discoducky
    Where did the video go? Even going directly to Vimeo results in no video...
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  • Jun 5, 2012
    ckessel
    It's working for me from the Inside Tesla blog page.

    I have to say, the Inside Tesla stuff has been everything I could have hoped for so far.
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  • Jun 5, 2012
    Kevin Harney
    Looks like June 22 wil be for the CUSTOMERS .....

    "Welcome back to �Inside Tesla,� our series of Tuesday updates giving you behind-the-scenes access to Model S production as we gear up for our first customer deliveries on June 22nd. I promised a few surprises along the way, and this will be one of those weeks!"
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  • Jun 5, 2012
    NigelM
    "Inside Tesla" seems to have been hijacked by design discussions......:confused:
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  • Jun 5, 2012
    AnOutsider
    this is from 3 months ago, so a bit newer:

    View attachment 6566

    Also, looks like Tesla isn't the only one with a clean factory:

    7004300651_8853e1ba8c.jpg
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  • Jun 5, 2012
    bonnie
    Nigel is right. Guys, can we get back on topic here? There are plenty of threads where we're discussing the various combinations of finishes for the Model S.

    Update:

    Posts about what Model S Elon is driving went here: Elon's Model S.

    Posts about different design choices went here: Model S design combinations.?
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  • Jun 12, 2012
    erha
    Today is another Inside Tesla day. With the new charger section on the website with info about SolarCity, I wouldn't be surprised if they announced something new today about SolarCity and the Supercharger network. Hope so!
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  • Jun 12, 2012
    jerry33
    I believe in last's weeks Inside Tesla they said this week they would show the paint process.
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  • Jun 12, 2012
    NigelM
    IIRC, the "shareholder meeting" video had 4 sections

    Stamping
    Body Center
    Paint Shop
    Final Assembly

    So, yes we should see the Paint Shop today.
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  • Jun 12, 2012
    gjunky
  • Jun 12, 2012
    132
    Is that a new color I see.Looks like metallic orange/ copper
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  • Jun 12, 2012
    Zextraterrestrial
    Muir red?
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  • Jun 12, 2012
    Blurry_Eyed
    U.S. Signature cars will have 1 year free wireless connectivity included!

    Also every available interior option and decor will be available to see in the 10 cars at the first two stops on the test drive tour.
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  • Jun 12, 2012
    Kipernicus
    Super excited to see all 10 colors - I assume they mean full cars in each of the colors. It's just not the same looking at those little samples in the stores.
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  • Jun 12, 2012
    drbradfo
    10 colors:

    Solid:
    1) Eclipse Black
    2) Catalina White

    Metallic:
    3) Starlight Silver
    4) Pacific Blue
    5) Sequoia Green
    6) Dolphin Grey
    7) Sycamore Brown

    Multi-coat:
    8) White Water Pearl
    9) Signature Red

    ????
    10) ????? Muir Red ????
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  • Jun 12, 2012
    ElSupreme
    Yeah looking right to left on the photo on the site it looks like.

    Catalina White (White Water Pearl)
    Starlight Silver
    Pacific Blue
    Sequoia Green
    Muir Red
    Signature Red
    Sycamore Brown
    Eclipse Black
    Dolphin Grey
    White Water Pearl (Catalina White)

    paintcolors.jpg
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  • Jun 12, 2012
    grisnjam
    10) !!!!! Muir Red !!!!!

    In the video the red kinda looks more Muir then Signature ... but it could just be the sig base coat. I would love to see the Muir red.
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  • Jun 12, 2012
    Todd Burch
    For those going to one of the first two test drive events, please take lots of quality interior/exterior pictures of the different cars for those of us who may only get to see 1 or two combinations!
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  • Jun 12, 2012
    gg_got_a_tesla
    It's not called Muir Red anymore. It's "Sunset Red" as per the Options page and is still slated for 2013.

    If the paint shop can paint it already, not sure why Tesla's holding it back till next year; to preserve Sig Red's exclusivity for a few months?!

    After looking at way too many Blue Priuses on the road and several not-so-great-looking Green BMW 5s and 3s not to mention Green VWs and Camrys, still considering Sunset Red if Tesla can make it available by January...
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  • Jun 12, 2012
    TESLAficionado
    Tuesday is Tesla day :)

    yes... I believe I invested in the right company
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  • Jun 12, 2012
    kevincwelch
    Very nice!

    I wonder how much this will be for the rest of us.

    These videos really pump me up.
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  • Jun 12, 2012
    Kipernicus
    Did anyone get an email from Tesla today announcing the latest blog post? I did last week but didn't today.
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  • Jun 12, 2012
    kevincwelch
    Did not get the email today...
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  • Jun 19, 2012
    W.Petefish
    I think gratis thanks is in order for GeorgeB. Especially for the link to TMC in the blog post.
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  • Jun 19, 2012
    rabar10
    Info about the latest TM 'Inside Tesla' blog post is here: Inside Tesla 06-19-12
    (if it ends up being merged here, feel free to delete this)
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  • Jun 19, 2012
    Zextraterrestrial
    Yes! and I will definitely shake his hand this time. maybe give him a big hug too!
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  • Jun 19, 2012
    gg_got_a_tesla
    Yeah, he's indeed a great guy! He does mean it when he says we're family.

    More power to Tesla!
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  • Jun 19, 2012
    doug
    Might have already been mentioned, but I just noticed that that count down is now for a more sensible 3:30 pm PDT instead of midnight.
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  • Jun 19, 2012
    AnOutsider
    Yes, and oddly, it also goes to 3:30 EST. Guessing their code doesn't localize -- or it does and it's not realizing the target is 3:30 PST and adjusting for the local time.
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  • Jun 19, 2012
    JRod0802
    The blog says "3:30 p.m. PST". Do you think he meant PDT? I'm betting he did, since California is in Daylight Savings Time right now, and a lot of people don't know how to denote Daylight Savings Time. I just wanted to make sure...
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  • Jun 19, 2012
    Zextraterrestrial
    Stoopid 'savings' can't we just get rid of it and switch to metric too while were at it?

    All I know is I'm extra tired 2 days a year

    and my foot is 12" (w/ a shoe)
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  • Jun 19, 2012
    tnawara
    Same issue here in CDT. The countdown code must only be calculating from a static 3:30PM without factoring in time zone differences.
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  • Jun 19, 2012
    ElSupreme
    It is Daylight Saving Time. No 'S'!

    And yes many many people mess up PDT/PST.
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  • Jun 19, 2012
    doug
    That's odd since a countdown is an absolute thing (e.g., "5 hours from now" is five hours from now, independent of timezone). The code shouldn't need to be localized. They must be using the system clock.

    Edited to add: Just confirmed the count down changed by simply adjusting the clock on my laptop and reloading the page.
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  • Jun 19, 2012
    jomo25
    [JOKE]Wow, I hope the software on the car is designed and coded better than their web page countdown![/JOKE]

    Yes, I'm just kidding.
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  • Jun 19, 2012
    Trnsl8r
    Oh, but I hope it is the same. That way you could bring up your battery to 100% just by driving into a different time zone. Right? totaltgalen.gif
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  • Jun 19, 2012
    AnOutsider
    I've run into this myself. The solution I came up with is to have a target countdown date (a unix timestamp) then to also have a variable stating the current server time (inserted into the code via whatever they use, likely PHP). Then the Javascript can do a diff on the machine's date and the date of the server (which is likely the same timezone of the target countdown date). This way it can use that difference to offset the countdown forward or backward as needed.

    TM if you're reading, you're welcome :)
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  • Jun 19, 2012
    Robert.Boston
    In the power industry, you'll often see "EPT" "CPT" "MPT" and "PPT" -- where the middle "P" is "Prevailing". This notation lets you write market rules that say "offers must be submitted by 10:00 EPT" with zero ambiguity about the time intended.
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  • Jun 19, 2012
    gg_got_a_tesla
    Or, simply Pacific/Mountain/Central/Eastern.
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  • Jun 19, 2012
    NigelM
    OCD! :rolleyes:
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  • Jun 20, 2012
    ckessel
    Sort of off topic now on the counter, but I'm not sure why they'd screw with dates at all in the countdown timer. Just send across the number of seconds left until launch, a number that has no time zone dependency, and let the Javascript/Html5 widget convert it to days/minutes/seconds and count down.

    Academic anyway, the event is close enough it's probably not worth them spending time to fix and deploy a new web page for something that trivial.
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  • Jun 20, 2012
    efusco
  • Jun 20, 2012
    action7981
    Has to be Beta #33 if the picture is that old. Anyone know if Beta #33 is white?
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  • Jun 20, 2012
    NigelM
    Here.
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  • Aug 2, 2012
    doug
  • Aug 2, 2012
    Lyon
    Some interesting new info on production ramp and then the info we already had about the vanity lights and rear-reading lights. One tidbit I noticed was that GeorgeB is planning on continuing to make these little blog posts as major milestones are reached. That's nice.

    And feel free to delete the separate thread I started for this new blog.
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  • Aug 2, 2012
    RubberToe
    Very cool. 50 cars produced, and there will be 50 more in the next 2-3 weeks. Thats averaging 50/15 = 3.3 cars per day, possibly 50/10 = 5 cars per day. So they are basically doubling the rate. If they are producing fewer than that rate now, the rate at the end would have to be higher than what I stated. They could easily be at 5 cars per day in two weeks. And they plan on boosting it up at 2-3 week intervals. 39,000 total miles driven. Looking forward to the next update.
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