Dec 9, 2012
jerry33 I suspect as the car ages lower Wh/m will be easier to do. My Prius has become better every year over the going-on-ten-years that I've had it (in-service Oct 2003). The first year was 50.8 mpg. This year so far is 69.0 mpg.�
Dec 9, 2012
Robert.Boston Possible, but the battery will also degrade some over time.
Congrats, Dave and Adam!�
Dec 9, 2012
dmetcalf Probably if just coasting and no uphill. The regen is not worth it according to JB and that is what I found comparing extra energy for uphill compared to downhill with regen.
450+ is definitely doable with 19s, no rain, fewer bridges, and attention to surface texture (lots of rough road patches on my rural route and this REALLY effected range more than I would have thought. 3+ hours of rain didn't help either...) I also wonder how much further the Tesla firmware will let us go beyond zero. I got 1-2 miles extra plus sitting 45min with reduced A/C, music going and driving it at low speed onto the tow truck and into the garage at home without recharging. Did notice some issues with items starting to not function like air suspension adjustment and power saving on other things in the car. I ended with 80.3 kWh used so theoretically had more juice, but I'm sure the SW won't let you go to zero and harm the batteries. I posted a pic of the big Charge Now text...�
Dec 9, 2012
JRP3 Don't know if it applies to all lithium chemistry but we've seen a slight increase in capacity with in the first 50 or so cycles of LiFePO4, so that might be the sweet spot.�
Dec 9, 2012
Zextraterrestrial That is my thought and I think probably true. i may try 400 + soon but there is nowhere around here that wouldn't be a boring loop�
Dec 9, 2012
bobw The Prius has NiMH batteries. They behave differently as they age.�
Dec 9, 2012
NigelM Whichever way you look at, the task is one of endurance for the human(s).�
Dec 9, 2012
jerry33 My thought is that the batteries aren't the cause of the improved mpg that I have experienced. Driver skills, new car break-in, better tires, and additional instrumentation are what I attribute the mpg increase to.�
Dec 9, 2012
rcsting Congratulations Dave and Adam. Your accomplishment is outstanding and thanks to Tesla for building the vehicles of our future.�
Dec 9, 2012
westerndh Oh this is fantastic news Dave. Congratulations. Looking at your pics you must have used cruise control right?
Love the right of passage part to the story as well. Look forward to hearing more about your pre-trip research as well!�
Dec 9, 2012
dmetcalf Thanks again for posting your findings! This was helpful in my planning. Used cruise control 80% of the time. Route planning was essential. Flat, rural roads...�
Dec 9, 2012
eledille :biggrin:
And congratulations!�
Dec 9, 2012
PeterSZ Think about it. Look at the bare facts.
A guy drives a car for 400 miles. Just how special is that. At 25mph. That is even really really slow and you could qualify this as irrational behaviour. He blogs about this seemingly silly act. But surprisingly people don't get angry. They even cheer him on. From around the world. The owner of the factory that built the car congratulates him.
In an ICE-car this happening would be completely ridiculous.
In a Tesla Model S it shows how ridiculous it really is that none of the existing carmakers have built a 'Model S' earlier. Years and year earlier.
Too late now, dumb fools.
Congratulations to Dave and Tesla from The Netherlands (and Belgium), the EU's Tesla-HotSpot!
Gefeliciteerd!�
Dec 9, 2012
xhawk101 Bravo Dave n Adam!
Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD�
Dec 9, 2012
dmetcalf Thanks for your help reporting tweets!�
Dec 10, 2012
NigelM Best wishes for a very Happy Birthday today Adam!!!!�
Dec 10, 2012
perphilip +1
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Dec 10, 2012
al_chumley I've read that if you drive slightly off-center, you can counter some of the effects of this, the idea being that there are slight grooves in the road that fill with more rain where people usually drive.
I definitely appreciate the record, and congrats to you, but 25mph in a 70 is really being hazardous to yourself and other drivers (as well as possibly being illegal), and really diminishes the record. I hope you had your hazards on at least.�
Dec 10, 2012
Zextraterrestrial
Indeed!. The Model S seats are pretty stiff. 2 hours and I'm ready to stretch�
Dec 10, 2012
SCW-Greg Making the press now! You're famous!
"How far will a Tesla Model S go?"�
Dec 10, 2012
gg_got_a_tesla Did our "Brian H" get Green Car Reports to take note?
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Dec 10, 2012
bonnie Different 'Brian H'.�
Dec 10, 2012
KenEE Congrats to Dave and Adam!
What did they win? I know it was a challenge by Elon, but was there a prize associated with it?�
Dec 10, 2012
gg_got_a_tesla This?
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Dec 10, 2012
Kipernicus Congrats Dave and Adam!
Could you please post a google maps showing the route (feel free to fudge the starting point, you know how many stalkers there are on this forum)�
Dec 10, 2012
KenEE Should be a real prize. From Elon's blog:
�We haven�t internally demonstrated that yet and we are planning a prize for the first customer that actually drives over 400 miles on a single charge.
So what is it or what should it be?�
Dec 10, 2012
dmetcalf Prize
Not sure if George wants me to tell (remember Elon's updated post that there's a prize for the first 10, I think). It is a good prize (not a million dollars ; )). We didn't really do it for a prize and I had already decided to donate whatever it was to the university or our Haiti Fund.�
Dec 10, 2012
dmetcalf Our Map
Here you go!
View attachment David and Adam Metcalf 400mi+ Tesla route.pdf
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Dec 11, 2012
Brian H I think he chose secondary highways and such; the photos mostly show 2-lanes. There's a lot of great driving to be had if you eschew the freeways!�
Dec 11, 2012
Robert.Boston You and Adam win a Golden Ticket. If you survive the tour, you'll own the company! ;-)�
Dec 11, 2012
KenEE I figured you didn't do it for the prize. (What a great Dad/Son thing to do!) Just curious how creative Tesla was with the prize. Maybe I and my daughter or son(s) will try as well if there are slots still available. (Not that I would do it for the prize, but I also wouldn't do it without a prize if you understand... kind of like I'm not going to run 26.2 miles unless I get my $1.50 medal
Anyway - Congratulations!�
Dec 11, 2012
rogbmw Dave and Adam...a huge congratulations. What a great Father and Son story. Kids grow up fast, but memories last a life time.�
Dec 11, 2012
hvb Come on, you can't keep us hanging! What's the prize?!�
Dec 11, 2012
pstillman Many congrats from someone who had planned to attempt it myself but was told the elevation changes in my proposed route would doom my efforts. Great accomplishment and great story!�
Dec 11, 2012
dmetcalf LOL - love this. Definitely want the factory tour sometime!�
Dec 12, 2012
dmetcalf Thanks for all your help reporting tweets and tracking. This will help Guinness validate. I appreciate it!�
Dec 13, 2012
jordanthompson Congratulations David and his son for breaking an incredible record this week!
I'm surprised David hasn't posted this here already! (At least I didn't see it anywhere, but then again, I can't find anything in the refrigerator either!)
Tesla Motors - Google+ - Congratulations David Metcalf and son Adam for breaking an…
Congratulations!!!�
Dec 13, 2012
disco340 Tesla Model S driven for 423.5 miles on a single charge
I didn't see this posted anywhere. If it is my appologies for the repost.
http://www.worldcarfans.com/112121351640/tesla-model-s-driven-for-4235-miles-on-a-single-charge�
Dec 13, 2012
STxTesla Florida college professor breaks EV range record in Tesla Model S
Very cool...Congrats!
Florida college professor breaks EV range record in Tesla Model S - MSN Autos�
Dec 17, 2012
tdelta1000 This is a huge milestone for Tesla Motors and EVs...Congrats gentlemen.�
Dec 23, 2012
dmetcalf Two more from NY Times and TreeHugger.
Father and Son Drive 423 Miles on One Charge in Tesla Model S - NYTimes.com
Father and Son Drive Tesla Model S Over 400 Miles on a Single Charge : TreeHugger
David Metcalf | InsuranceQuotes.com
Thanks all. I sent my blog post to JB for review and posting on Tesla. We'll see when they post it. I'll also send it to Larry for our FL newsletter.�
Dec 24, 2012
NigelM That's quite a scrapbook your son's going to have!�
May 24, 2013
jvonbokel Has anybody else completed (or attempted?) the 400mi challenge since Dave and his son?�
May 24, 2013
shady I think there is a bug in my Tesla. It won't allow me to drive slow enough to attempt this.
or maybe it's a bug in the driver!�
May 24, 2013
NigelM Yes. Bruno Bowden (he helped build Google Earth) went 425.8 miles in February this year.�
May 24, 2013
Kipernicus Anyone do it in a 60? What was the distance?�
May 25, 2013
capt601 We ran Into Bruno at the Hawthorne supercharger just after he had finished his 425 mile run. Very interesting talking with him. Said he was pulled over for impeding traffic during the run.�
May 25, 2013
AudubonB Now, if I can only find a 426 mile downhill ramp......
18mph is a little loguey even for me. I wonder how you're supposed to spell that?�
May 25, 2013
Liz G jvonbokel sent me the below pictures. Looks like he attempted the 400 mile challenge today on his way to Michigan.
Here he is at the 200 mile mark.
View attachment 22581
Doing pretty good at this point.
But must have hit some rough terrain. Here he is at 350 miles.
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So close. Haven't heard from him recently so I'm not sure if this is as far as he made it or if he kept going. Hopefully he will post later with more details.�
May 25, 2013
jvonbokel Made it! 400.7mi with just 2 Rated Miles left.
Details to follow after a good night's sleep.�
May 25, 2013
brianman Not meaning to nitpick - I honestly have no idea what word you mean here. Perhaps a definition (since using it in a sentence didn't help)?
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Well done!�
May 25, 2013
bluefuego nice job!!!!�
May 26, 2013
Qualchan So sad. Dave's blog never appeared on the official site as I hoped and we never learned what the prize was or if others - like the first 10 - would be rewarded, too. It seemed to me this feat would have served so well to show the car's capabilities - especially with regard to range anxiety - just when production was really ramping up: A missed PR opportunity. What happened??!�
May 26, 2013
NigelM Well done. Look forward to reading all the details.�
May 26, 2013
AudubonB Hah! If I'd written sluggish, the meaning would have been clear. I wonder if it's an Alaskanism - we've lots of 'em.
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1. Congratulations, jvonbokel! That'd just get me to town and back.
2. On further perusing, I see "ramp" suggestions elsewhere - Denver and other such towards Salina KS, etc. That should work....
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Other Alaskanisms:
*did you know "glacier" is a verb? As in: the Richardson Highway's been glaciering badly this winter between here and Summit Lake. DOT can't keep up with its steam trucks, and we've had three really bad wipeouts on that ice.
*Where other winter locations may see snowmobiles - by the way, UAF students built an electric one! - here we have snowmachines and also sno-gos. As in: The 28th annual Arctic Man Ski & Sno-Go Classic, held each year right at "our" glacier, finally saw the 4-minute barrier definitively smashed - and by the top three finishers, too!
* Outside has a special meaning here. As in: Real Alaskans don't go Outside during winter. What it means is "anywhere that is not Alaska".
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So it's about 300 miles from here, at elevation 2,700 feet, to Anchorage at sea level. I wonder if that drop is enough to overcome the ups and downs along the way..... hmmmmmm.... I do think that inviolable 2nd Law of Thermodynamics would be rearing its gnarly head in all the climbs intermediate to that destination.....�
May 26, 2013
jweinstein Audie,
I made the drive from Anchorage to Seward about two weeks ago (125 miles each way) at 333 wh/mi outbound and 321 wh/mi on the return. As you know, that's a hilly and curvy journey. I drove comfortably with the climate control on and my foot on the accelerator at a sporty pressure.
-Josh�
May 27, 2013
AudubonB Cool, Josh! Hope you enjoyed that Hillside-to-Girdwood stretch. Always a great piece of road...except when a few dozen/hundred RVs are on it.....
And BIG THANKS AGAIN for letting me behind the wheel of yours! Now I'm really champing at the bit.....when's that Great Big Box going to show up in my drive.....?????....
When I drove back to Paxson, the entire Glenn and most of the Richardson was a veritable hurricane of migrant birds. More car strikes than I've seen in the rest of my life combined. Alfred Hitchcock would be terrified.
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Jun 7, 2013
dmetcalf Congrats again John! Glad to have you in the 400 club. I think it is you, Bruno and my son and me so far...
For a couple of you with questions about what happened to our post, I think Tesla had our article and picture up for a short while and then the Broder thing and stock surge happened and they were busy making all of us money : ).
I am happy to send it to anyone interested at this point, even though Tesla asked that I not distribute it so please don't post or distribute. Spoiler alert: there have been various prizes, but the main two are a HPWC and an autographed picture from Elon and JB. I donated the HPWC to Univ of Central Fl and they agreed to put it in a free parking spot and provide free charging to the Tesla community in exchange for the donation- so the next time you're in East Orlando and need a charge, contact me. We should have it up and on Recargo in a few months too. Thanks for the support and interest. I'm happy to help anyone else who wants to make an attempt and join the club. Many others have tried and run into problems- mostly hills or roads that are too fast. It is doable with patience and the right route so go for it. I am also planning something special for the first 10, but have to wait a bit to get it all setup. Hope to meet some of you at TESLIVE next month and discuss range.�
Jun 8, 2013
AWDtsla Since I don't own one (yet): shouldn't you have something more like (85-77.9)/0.194 = 36.6 miles left? How many kWh can you draw before it says 0?�
Jun 8, 2013
Robert1969 That's interesting. But it is a better bargain than that. If you were able to get 40 mpg in, say, a Chevy Cruze to travel 423 miles you would need 10.6 gallons. At $3.50 a gallon the trip would cost you $37 bucks in a Chevy Cruze.�
Aug 25, 2015
Johan I remebered this thread. Dave and his son will always be the ones who broke the 400 mile record. Now Bj�rn has set a new distance record:
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Aug 25, 2015
Cottonwood They did it in a P85D!
Think what a 90D could do...�
Aug 25, 2015
Larry Chanin Yes, I feel the same way. Dave and Adam did it in a P85 with 21" tires.
Larry�
Aug 25, 2015
Benjamin Brooks 90D with 19" tires in ideal conditions could do 500mi on 1 charge, I bet.�
Aug 25, 2015
Larry Chanin Hi Ben,
Dave Metcalf's record trip ran into rain which greatly reduced efficiency. Dave told me that he thought in conditions without rain that his P85 with 21" tires could have done 450 miles. So yes, if Dave is correct in ideal conditions a 90D should easily do 500 miles.
Larry�
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