Oct 28, 2015
Modeler I picked up my new Model S 4 days ago and I'm already starting to regret the purchase. To start, the car came with a horrendously loud constant popping/creaking noise from somewhere around the top of the windshield. But the big issue occured today. I parked the car and got out to walk around it to the passenger side. While I was walking around, the car locked itself with my keys, cell phone, and everything else still in it. Thankfully I was able to find a phone to call home. My wife used my iPad to remotely unlocked the car. But I'm left very angry that something this idiotic can happen on a $100K car. Wish there was a return guarantee...�
Oct 28, 2015
ToddRLockwood The car probably wasn't actually locked. The handles will retract automatically after you shut the doors, but if the key fob is within range of the car, the car will not actually lock. The door handles will re-present just by pushing on one of them.
There has been a sunroof squeak issue on some vehicles. (Mine never had it.) It is an issue that can be fixed by the Tesla service centers, and they may even be able to fix it at your home.�
Oct 28, 2015
Soolim Locking your key inside the car is very strange and should never happened. Please bring it to the attention of your local service center and they should look after you. Did the delivery specialist gave you a tutorial on the functionalities of the S? If you feel more interaction with the DS is needed please do not hesitate to ask them. If you are still dissatisfied with the remedies of the SC, then escalate to the higher management as necessary.�
Oct 28, 2015
tstafford Not sure how you bought it but there are some return guarantees. I know that my lease thru Tesla would have allowed me to return inside of 30 days.
Sorry you are disappointed in the car. I'm sure you can find a way out of it. I'd speak to Tesla about your options.�
Oct 28, 2015
andrewket Todd is correct, but it is possible that the car did not detect the keys in the car. The sensors/antennas don't seem to be quite as sensitive as other brands. There are known dead slots in the trunk.
You should have your service center check out the creaking. While Tesla has made huge strides on the fit and finish of the S since 2012, small items still sometimes make it past Q&A. Focus on the major positives - you're not using gas, it can almost drive itself on the highway, it's fast and super smooth, etc, and give Tesla an opportunity to fix the other items.
Congrats on your purchase, and welcome.�
Oct 28, 2015
sandpiper I had my key locked into the car once. And I find that the odd time the handles don't present when I approach. But, in my case, I found that the problem is the two other RFID tags on my keychain. If the Tesla key is behind or under them, it sometimes doesn't work. But that's not unique to Tesla; it's just the way that these tags are.�
Oct 28, 2015
ecarfan To the OP: please tell us where the fob was located in the car, and was a cell phone or table lying on top of the fob.
Also, when you got around to the passenger side to find the door handles retracted, did you push on the handle to see if it would open? Or did you try to open the trunk with your hand?
I'm sure the noise at the top of the windshield can be fixed. Do you have the Panoramic roof option?�
Oct 28, 2015
skboston I've had my car locked itself with the keys in a few times, it's not uncommon actually even with the key in sitting in the center tray. I usually have my phone with me at all times, so that have saved me, but it's not pleasant for sure.�
Oct 28, 2015
mobe I have a friend who bought a brand new Mercedes Benz 450 SL with the pneumatic locking system. The car was constantly locking him out. Strange thing is, when it did, even though he had the key, he was unable to over- ride the system. Despite visit after visit to the dealer, they were never able to get it fixed. He finally traded the car back to the dealer because he never knew if he would be able to get into the car.
So yes weird things happen to all mechanical devices from time to time.
I think that it was probably just the handles retracting though and that it wasn't really locked.
Give the SC a chance to fix the squeak. I think you will be delighted at how they take care of you.�
Oct 28, 2015
bonnie Suggest until the OP knows the cause (use error/the doors weren't actually locked, key fob in dead zone, or service visit rq'd), that the driver control settings be set so that the car doesn't lock on walk away.�
Oct 28, 2015
Caligula Interesting. I've accidentally locked all manner of things in various vehicles throughout my life. It's never occurred to me to blame the car for this, however. I've apparently been too hard on myself all these years? :biggrin:�
Oct 28, 2015
apacheguy Not always true. I had same issue as OP. Car locked itself with keys inside. Tried all door handles and even trunk to no avail. Had to remotely unlock.
Key was under the 17".�
Oct 28, 2015
rcarpen22 My question is why anyone ever takes the key out of their pocket? I know it's not a super uncommon issue (as I've seen a number of people write about getting locked out). I have yet to purchase a MS, but I imagine when I do, the key will never leave my pocket. You don't need to use it for anything do you?�
Oct 28, 2015
SabrToothSqrl I don't find it comfortable to have the key in my pocket (While driving). so it goes in the center tray thingy. It's never locked me out. I leave the key in it, in my garage at home. I'm lazy that way lol.
If it's a black on black 85D... would it happen to be for sale?
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Oct 28, 2015
BoldSharpe 1. Disable the auto lock feature. I also disabled the auto present door handle feature as I found it to be annoying as they'd present when I'd go into my garage to take out the garbage, etc.
2. Call the service center and schedule an appointment to get the rattle fixed. It's unfortunate and annoying something so obvious wasn't noticed during the inspection process.
3. Post back here with your results.�
Oct 28, 2015
tezzla I have to agree with rcarpen22. I've only locked the keys in my car twice in my life, once when they fell out of my hands getting something from the back seat (1980's) and once in my Mercedes (accidently dropped keys in trunk). NOT the car's fault!�
Oct 28, 2015
Cyclone My mother leaves her key in her purse. If she was just walking around the car, she could leave her purse in the car. For me, if I am wearing jeans or most of my shorts, I keep the key in my pocket. If I am wearing dress slacks or a bathing suit, the key sits in the center console raceway. That said, I've never been locked out before either.
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I am confused on the process/workflow here. Why do you take your car key with you into the garage to take out the garbage?�
Oct 28, 2015
Mark Z The key fob can fit nicely in a shirt pocket where it is easy to locate. I find the Bass Pro Shops Red Head shirts with two velcro closures to be an excellent design for wallet and key fob. Other styles have button or open pocket designs.
Long Sleeve: http://www.basspro.com/RedHead-Finley-River-Shirt-for-Men-Long-Sleeve/product/13102307012918/
Short Sleeve: http://www.basspro.com/RedHead-Finley-River-Shirt-for-Men-Short-Sleeve/product/13102507012511/�
Oct 28, 2015
BoldSharpe Is this what you're looking for? :wink:
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Oct 28, 2015
mkspeedr The work flow is the funniest thing I have seen all day.
BTW - I might need to use your process flow chart - I have the same problem with my garbage.�
Oct 28, 2015
Max* I LOL'ed, and I do the same thing. Everytime I step outside to do something (get the mail if I forgot, take out the trash, get something from storage, etc.), the car handles present themselves. I just ignore it now.�
Oct 28, 2015
Mark Z My auto present handles were turned off years ago. I don't mind tapping the handle to open it when it needs to be opened. When the garage door is used as the main entry/exit to the house, walking next to the car is a daily occurrence. A double tap of the key fob center also presents the handles. With Model X, I am not going to want the door to automatically open unless physically requested.�
Oct 28, 2015
donv The beauty of the Tesla is that you were still able to unlock it remotely! In the old days, you would have needed a coat hangar, or a locksmith to accomplish that-- both considerably more difficult than a phone call.�
Oct 28, 2015
mikeash Speaking only for myself, it's because all my keys live on one ring, which I put in my pocket in the morning and remove at night, and otherwise they stay with me. They're small so it's not any trouble, and it ensures I never forget them.�
Oct 28, 2015
Nigel Tufnel Prediction: Once you experience Tesla's service/repair/replacement procedures, learn to program your car to your liking, and enjoy the wonderfulness of driving this car you will want to go back and erase your post. :smile:�
Oct 28, 2015
dsm363 You don't need it for anything else so leaving it in your pocket or turing off auto lock would prevent this from happening unless some other issue at play.
To OP: Sorry to hear about the creaking, that definitely should be fixed. It sounds like getting locked out might have simply been a mistake since you left the keys and your phone inside the car. As mentioned above, if the keys and phone are next to each other it can sometimes lead to the car having a hard time recognizing the key fog. I wouldn't let locking yourself out (if that's what happened and not some problem with the car) make you regret such a great car. If anything, your experience was better than almost any other car with this feature. You were able to get someone to remotely unlock your car without a locksmith. And people usually have their key fob or their phone on them at all times so this issue is very rare. You can always turn the auto lock feature off too if you wanted more control and a more manual process. Good luck.�
Oct 28, 2015
AmpedRealtor You should definitely return the car because you spent $100,000 and probably didn't even read the manual.�
Oct 28, 2015
taurusking My wife drives an ICE suv and I remember we had to call locksmith and pay $100 to open the door.�
Oct 28, 2015
Terra117 If the key was in the car and the app said the care was locked, I'd bring it to the attention of your SC.
I've left my key in many places in the car so it wouldn't lock on my wife when I run in stores to pick something up. Never had a problem.�
Oct 28, 2015
taurusking Agreed to what you said.
I can partially agree with OP's complaint about sunroof though...but again it can be fixed.�
Oct 28, 2015
apacheguy How would reading the owners manual have changed the outcome?�
Oct 28, 2015
Blvr888 If you are leasing via US Bank - just make use of your Happiness Guarantee http://www.teslamotors.com/blog/significantly-improved-leasing-tesla-us-bank
This will also make the CPO buyer of your car happy.�
Oct 28, 2015
taurusking Yes it would have...you would know how to unlock the door rather than getting frustrated and complain about the car...Most of the MS owners learn a lot about the car before they buy and that includes me.�
Oct 28, 2015
zer0cool Where's the OP?�
Oct 28, 2015
dsm363 Is the car designed to always recognize the key fob left in the car and unlock or does it depend on where in the car the key fob is located? I've had it not be recognized at times in my pocket sitting in the car but just moving the key around solved it.
This really seems like one of those situations with a new product where you say "oh, now I know" and move on. I would be hard pressed to lose thousands of dollars returning such a car after 4 days over this issue. The creaking windshield is annoying but hopefully Tesla fixes that right away.�
Oct 28, 2015
Cyclone I still don't get it. When when you are entering the garage that you go pick up your key and put it in your pocket? That's the part that doesn't make sense to me. I go into my garage often during the day, but I only pick up my key and put it in my pocket when I'm going to the car, so I'm confused why the key would be in your pocket outside of you just being on the way to/from the car and grabbing the mail or trash while doing so.
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Maybe the part that is confusing me is that I take out my key and hang it up when I get home, so each time I go out to the garage, they key isn't on me. Is that unusual and other just keep their key on then 24/7?
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Aha! Mine are also on one ring, but sit at the key hanger by the door until they are needed, which ends up being when about to get into the car.�
Oct 28, 2015
Marcboy This happened to me and I can repro easily.
The issue is conflicting rfid/whatever wave interaction between the phone and the keyfob.
If the keyfob is close to the phone, then the car can not detect the keyfob, hence it does not see it inside the car => locks
You can also verify this if you have keyfob + phone in the same pocket, the car won't recognise the keyfob.
I have a Samsung S5, if it matters (probably).�
Oct 28, 2015
Max* Well for one thing, if he were in the car reading, he wouldn't get locked out.
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The key lives in my pocket, I don't hang it anywhere (it's seperate from my house keys)�
Oct 28, 2015
Soolim Same situation for me. I am a very forgetful person, so I want the auto lock feature. I would like to request that MS recognize an at home garage parking decal (GPS not accurate enough to distinguish driveway versus inside secured garage) and not activate auto lock.�
Oct 28, 2015
DougH You don't have to be on a lease to exercise your right to the happiness guarantee. Simply put it in writing that you are not happy with the car and stop driving it.�
Oct 28, 2015
liuping Mine does that every time I go into the garage for something.
I does not bother me though. I just think of the Model S like a puppy: it's exited to see me and want me to take it out for a drive.�
Oct 28, 2015
EdA Forgot his password�
Oct 28, 2015
SabrToothSqrl You KNOW you're on a $100k car forum when people whip out flow chart software like it's a tic-tac. LOL
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So... once the keyfob can be made the size of a grain of rice... who will be the first to implant one under their skin... so they need 'nothing' to drive the car?�
Oct 28, 2015
mknox In the old days, I used OnStar.�
Oct 28, 2015
ToddRLockwood I've found that attaching the Tesla fob to a keyring with a bunch of keys on it can also lead to problems. If I have the fob in my pocket with other keys, the car has difficulty sensing the fob, even when inside the car. For this reason, I recommend carrying your fob in a separate pocket from your keys.�
Oct 28, 2015
glhs272 Just have the key fob surgically implanted... there, problem solved so stop your complaining!
<being facetious here in case you can't tell>�
Oct 28, 2015
apacheguy
Read my post up thread. There is no way to unlock the door even by pressing all handles and trunk. This happened to me after I had owned the car for over 2 years. RTFM? I think not.�
Oct 28, 2015
rcarpen22 The other thing I find interesting, and I'm not criticizing at all, just interesting, is that the OP is so upset about these small issues. It just goes to show you how different people are. I have been reading about this company since 2008 or earlier (well before there was a Model S). I am finally about to order a car (this week hopefully). I have agonized over whether to get Pano because of the noise and leak issues. If I do opt for it and it ends up being problematic, there is no way it would cause me to regret buying the car, because it's a known and thoroughly documented issue. It may cause me to kick myself a little for getting the roof, but that's about it. I'm guessing OP is absent from the discussion as of late because the regret has already kicked in for the remarks in the original post.�
Oct 28, 2015
dsm363 I had some issues with Pano roof when I first got my car 3 years ago but they fixed them in the first few months and no problems since. I believe the number of complaints on this issue are less now than they used to be judging just from lack of posts on this topic here until this one.�
Oct 28, 2015
Cyclone Yeah, that's where my disconnect was. I didn't realize so many leave their fob in their pocket all the time. I'd lose mine within 24 hours if I did that!�
Oct 28, 2015
tomp I don't think it's that unusual. In my situation:
1) I take the garbage out by going through a side door off the garage, for which I need my keys. When I walk by the car, the handles present.
2) I often get the mail right after getting home, with keys still in my pocket. Handles present when walking by.
3) I often do small chores or play with my kids after we get home. I don't take my keys out of my pocket until we actually go inside. Every time I walk by the car, the handles present.
4) my wife keeps her key in her purse. When she goes to her car, the tesla's handles present.
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Oct 28, 2015
Johan Hmm... the op never returned to this thread yet here we are at post #52.
I believe the saying I'm looking for is "making bricks without straw".�
Oct 28, 2015
ozweepay The fob is large (esp if you keep it in its leather sheath... please, no sheath jokes, thank you).
So a lot of people don't want to keep it in a pants pocket, especially women, who prefer empty pockets. This puts it at risk for being left in all sorts of places... I left mine in a backpack and, like the OP, the car decided it couldn't see the fob, locked itself, and wouldn't present handles.
Worse, in my case, I was out of cell range, so I couldn't use the mothership to talk to it either. I honestly wish the car could make a direct connection with my cell phone (the technology is trivial, 802.11 is already in the car and in any smartphone), but instead you have to go through the Internet to talk to the car 1/2 a meter away. Ah well...
I'm still overjoyed with my purchase and love my car. My only real complaint is that the 17" is painfully slow and way out-of-date. I wish they would put new hardware in these things.�
Oct 28, 2015
Modeler I pushed on the handles (all four) with no luck. It definitely locked itself. I just dropped it off at the service center.
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The key was in my briefcase on the floor of the car in front of the passenger seat. The cell phone was far away in the center console. Yes, did try all the handles and the rear trunk.
I do have the Pano, and originally thought that may be it was what was creaking. However, the noise is there regardless of whether the Pano is open or closed.
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Great idea. Thank you!�
Oct 28, 2015
apacheguy Yep, as I suspected. Having a copy of the owners manual would not do one ounce of good in this situation.�
Oct 28, 2015
KenN Even better ... If we could utilize NFC tech that is now ubiquitous in smart phones as the key.�
Oct 28, 2015
Discoducky Very surprised the trunk didn't work as it actively pings for the key while holding down the trunk release button, I wonder if your key is bad or battery was low. Very sorry about you being locked out especially without your phone.�
Oct 28, 2015
Electricfan I'm curious - did someone talk you into buying the car - a friend or relative? It just seems you're ready to give up on the car very quickly to me, so maybe it wasn't your idea to buy it in the first place?
The reason I'm asking is - if all the body panels fell off my car I'd still drive it. I'd complain to Tesla, but I'd still drive it. Most people who buy this car are avid EV fans, or anti-oil, or whatever, but very few who buy it aren't passionate about it. You don't appear to be in the same club, so its strange to me.�
Oct 28, 2015
Chris TX Were you driving with the key in your briefcase? Odd that it would allow you to drive the car, but not detect that the key was still inside. Did you put the key in the briefcase after driving, or possibly place the briefcase on the floor after driving? If the car can no longer detect the key, your butt isn't in the front seat, and you close the door, it's going to close up and lock.�
Oct 28, 2015
Cyclone Thanks. The key (excuse the pun) in the confusion was that some keep their key on their person outside of to/from the car and I didn't realize that was somewhat common. I do all the above as well, but not with my key unless I was on my way to/from the car (typically the mail when that happens for me). But then I'm not concerned about the handles extending as that is the exception, not the rule, for me.�
Oct 28, 2015
Soolim Tesla, Let us have the option to buy a credit card type RFID so that it always stays in my wallet (at least for most men).�
Oct 28, 2015
Max* Agreed. I miss this from my old car.�
Oct 28, 2015
artsci Decades ago, on a freezing night in NYC, my wife and I drove downtown to see a play and parked our Ford Taurus on the street. When the play ended and we tried to access the car I realized that we had locked the keys in the car. We froze our butts off waiting for triple A to help us. Did we blame the car? No, as it was quite clear that the human in control -- me -- was the fool.
If the car was a Tesla I would have been able to immediately unlock it with my phone (if I hadn't locked the phone in the car with the keys)�
Oct 28, 2015
Canuck I find it strange that the "big issue" is the keys locked inside and not the creaking. Still, there must be other issues that make you regret your purchase other than these two things? Or is it only these two?�
Oct 28, 2015
Soolim Sometimes, buying a car could be an emotional exercise. I can understand the OP's reaction on the two issues for a $100k car. The expectation varies from person to person, so if it does not meet his expectation of reliability and quality of finish, it will be his choice to dispose of the car with as small a loss as possible. On the other hand by posting on this forum, I guess he is seeking advice from the members. Advice has been given, so let us wish him the best.�
Oct 28, 2015
RAW84 I'm sure it was locked if his wife unlocked it from the app. I once left my fob in my car in a friend's driveway. When I returned the handles were in, and I thought I was locked out. Luckily I had my phone, so I opened the app, but it said the car was unlocked. I'm on an Android phone, but I'd imagine the iPad app would also show an unlocked car as being unlocked.
With that said, I can't see why this angers you so much. I understand being angry in the moment, but now that you know that you can disable "auto-lock" so this will never happen again, why does this bother you?
The noises suck, and have been a complaint for many customers since the beginning. I've been luck to have avoided that problem on my S. You'll have to work with your SC to fix those issues, which I'm sure will be a trying experience.�
Oct 28, 2015
Nigel Tufnel I wonder if anyone has gotten/sent for their second key in similar situations?
After reading the original post, I was expecting a rather disrespectful series of rants rather than reasoned, helpful responses. You guys are cleaning up your acts.�
Oct 28, 2015
dsm363 Hey now. Give us a chance
Wish the OP a speedy soliton to this issue as well. It's a great car so hopefully these small bumps early on ownership are soon forgotten.�
Oct 28, 2015
Darren Donovan At this time, most if not all, Tesla owners can be classified as early adopters, thus willing to give a pass re quirks/defects like these. Tesla, as a company, is on the threshold of, or at least showing an ambition of, crossing into mainstream realm. The general buying public will not accept situations like this, especially at this price level.�
Oct 28, 2015
AmpedRealtor There are people in this world who would seriously return a car over these two non-issues? I can't imagine what OP would do if his drive unit needed to be replaced, let's hope he doesn't carry a firearm lol!�
Oct 28, 2015
Chris TX There are some people in life that set high expectations for everything. Those people are constantly disappointed and we can't help them.�
Oct 28, 2015
StephenM There are dead-spots within the car where it doesn't see the key. From personal experience, the key fob that was left above/behind the steering wheel (where the dashboard readout is) wasn't recognized and my car locked itself. I had my iPhone though and used the Tesla app to remotely unlock.�
Oct 28, 2015
donv You're making me feel old!
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Oct 28, 2015
Canuck The car does need to be more sensitive to the key.�
Oct 28, 2015
MrJones390 I second this. Or have your phone work just like the key fob. The key is so cumbersome (but not compared to other cars).�
Oct 28, 2015
muleferg OnStar.@#$$%%^^^. I had that for a year. Paid good $ for it. Then it became obsolete. Changed to digital. 500.000 (10%) owners from analog. :cursing: GM Richard Cranium
Sounds like Pilot Error.�
Oct 28, 2015
Modeler As most of you understood, I wasn't really planning to return the car. Just venting the frustration. The car is at the service center that will hopefully repair the creaking. The tech who rode with me in the car heard it loud and clear.
i will then disable auto locking feature and will hopefully continue to enjoy this otherwise awesome car. I still can't believe I have a car payment that is as high as some people's mortgage payments. This has been something that has been weighing on me since I placed the order, so these issues are causing greater aggravation than if I experienced them in my previous $50K Lexus.�
Oct 28, 2015
ken830 I bet you'll enjoy your car!�
Oct 28, 2015
Cyclone The payments on my S are greater than my mortgage payments. Trust me, I notice it when balancing my checkbook.�
Oct 28, 2015
Soolim You are welcome to stay:biggrin:. So far, in my 4 months with the forum, I still have to see someone return their Tesla. Many do trade up. If you do not have auto lock before, it make sense to keep auto-lock disabled. Since I am forgetful, I have my auto-lock enabled, but always have the key in my left pocket.
A tip for you: Your local service tech is as important to you as your dentist.:wink:�
Oct 28, 2015
yo mama If it hasn't been said yet, allow me to point out how freakin' awesome it is that your wife unlocked your car from her iPad.
Sure, the vehicle can be temperamental. But part of that is because you're driving a spaceship. Have fun driving the future - I know I sure do! And welcome to the forums.�
Oct 28, 2015
Soolim Conversely, make sure your phone and/or tablet is secured.�
Oct 28, 2015
bollar It happens on occasion.
My 2 day old P85D suddenly died in the middle of an intersection�
Oct 28, 2015
mobe After driving this car for four months I absolutely feel like I am being punished when I have to drive an old fashioned ICE car. I was gliding down the interstate today with autopilot doing the driving thinking how lucky I am to have it. I'm not ever going back!�
Oct 28, 2015
sundoc
He actually had 2... kept one and returned the one being discussed in the above link.�
Oct 28, 2015
David29 I've had my 70D a little over a month, and I made what is perhaps a "newbie" mistake with my key. I was carrying it in my jacket pocket, but as the day went on I took off the jacket and left it in the car. At one point I went into a hospital to visit someone. When I came back, I realized I had left the car in the busy hospital parking lot with the key in it! So in theory, anyone could have hopped in and driven it off.
I hope I don't do that again, but then again, I doubt it'll be the last mistake I make!
On another point, I was grateful for the comment someone made that a cellphone can interfere with recognition of the key. I normally carry my phone on my belt, on my right hip. (Yeah, old school, I know.) One day i had the Tesla key in my right jacket pocket, and the door handles did not present or respond. All I had to do was to move the key away from the cellphone and all was well.
This is the first car I have had with this type of key technology, so it has definitely been a learning experience -- but having to put a key into a door lock or an ignition (as I had to do today to drive someone else's car) already seems very old!�
Oct 28, 2015
DougH This is why I sold mine, couldn't get over the fact that I paid $112 for a P85D. Loved the car and I want another but it is so overpriced.�
Oct 28, 2015
mobe Overpriced?
Have ya priced any luxury cars lately?�
Oct 28, 2015
brkaus This far, to the best of my knowledge, Apple has not released the Api for custom nfc. Not sure about android.�
Oct 28, 2015
rjcbox Same here�
Oct 29, 2015
mknox It's handy, yes but certainly not unique to Tesla. Lots of cars can do this.�
Oct 29, 2015
supratachophobia Whoa whoa whoa, this guy heard a creak and allegedly locks his FOB in the car then regrets the purchase? I need to check myself out at the doctor because not even 21 service visits got me to the point of regret....�
Oct 29, 2015
AmpedRealtor So you're the Consumer Reports survey respondent that ruined it for the rest of us... lol! :tongue:�
Oct 29, 2015
Modeler Update: just got the car from the service. The creaking issue was with some bracket at the front of the Pano. It's been fixed. No more creaking!
They found no issue with key detection, but that's understandable given all the posts in this thread. The antennas are just not that good, and one has to be careful where the key is placed. I will just have to turn off auto-lock.
By the way, I also asked them to put felt on the bottom anchors of the seatbelts. These are large plastic parts attached to the bottom of the car -- when the car goes over rougher roads, these bump on the hard plastic of the seats and make noise. Just a bad design; some felt should be placed on these parts at the factory.
All is good for now. I'm certainly keeping the car (until it bankrupts me). :smile:�
Oct 29, 2015
taurusking
Good to know...Enjoy your car...its a nice car:wink:�
Oct 29, 2015
dsm363 Hope it's back soon. I actually love the auto lock feature. You'd just need to get used to a new workflow and that is keeping the key with you at all times. But of course it works just fine without it on.�
Oct 29, 2015
SW2Fiddler Still going to keep the key in a briefcase?�
Oct 29, 2015
Shaggy Yup, my 2013 Ford Fusion Energi does this. The app is cool I can see state of charge, lock, unlock, it was one of the selling points for me when I go it. Cool is watching it move ont he Geo locate so when it's in for service I see when they move it out of the shop area to the dealer's charger...�
Oct 29, 2015
dhrivnak And the Volt does this as well an did so a year before the Model S�
Oct 29, 2015
Canuck Does On Star count? I remember my wife locking the keys in our Tahoe Hybrid in 2008 and calling On Star to unlock it for us.
Glad it got resolved. It seems your frustration resulted more from the stress of the cost of the vehicle, and making the payments, than the problems. The problems seem to be just the straw that broke the camel's back. I have only bought vehicles I could afford to buy outright, and saved borrowing funds for buying investments. I only bought more expensive vehicles when I had no mortgages, sound investments, and more than enough cash in the bank to afford them. Growing up without much food in our cupboards, I have a real fear of being broke and can't live with financial stress. I now look back at that as a blessing.�
Oct 29, 2015
Archer I always have the FOB in my pocket so that it can never be in the car without me. I love the convenience of auto-lock. My wife, however, always puts the FOB in a different place all of the time - sometimes her front pocket, sometimes her purse - so it makes it easier for her to forget where it is.�
Oct 29, 2015
Max* I thought only my wife did that. "Can I have the keys back?" "I have no idea where they are, let me check my pockets, purse, jacket. O yeah, it's in the cup holder"�
Oct 29, 2015
Cyclone Hopefully with the cover retracted so you can see in the cupholder?!�
Oct 29, 2015
Max* I... don't remember. But thankfully that only happens if I step out of the car and she stays and I leave her the key (once I took the keys and she went to park in the shade, as the kids were asleep, and she couldn't start the car, lol. Remote start FTW!)
Otherwise it's pockets, jacket or purse.�
Oct 29, 2015
supratachophobia I was actually at the service center the very next day (as usual), and I yelled as soon as I walked in the door, "IT WASNT ME, I SWEAR!"�
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