Jul 17, 2013
Skotty While I think we could all do without a CD player for CD music, there is still an argument to have a DVD player that can play video discs (audio-only is fine). Probably not too many people like me, but I frequently listen to movies and stand-up comedy DVDs in my 2012 Volt. That is a feature I will miss when I switch to a Tesla (without rigging up some portable DVD player through an input jack or something). Until you can legally carry movies around on flash drives, the spinning disks will still have a place. I would like to see a DVD player be an add-on extra (and if it can play DVD video, it might as well play CD audio too).�
Jul 17, 2013
dmunjal I would prefer an HDMI input or even Airplay support to the screen over a DVD player.�
Jul 17, 2013
jerry33 According the the local police department, the number one reason cars are broken into is to steal CDs. They're the perfect theft item. Easy to fence and untraceable. I'm just as glad there is no CD player.�
Jul 18, 2013
AustinPowers Just for the record (pun not intended), I don't have to shuffle through CDs while driving, that is what my changer is for. And nothing is cluttering my interior. The changer is in the trunk, the CD cases are back at home of course. After all, why should I take them with me? I load my changer at home every few weeks, no prob. Perhaps I should mention that I don't want to constantly change my music. I choose my favorite (for some time) six albums, load my changer, then I listen to them in the following weeks. There is still not much repetition, as my daily drive to the nearest train station is not very long. At about three songs each way, about 90 to 120 songs (6 times 15 to 20 tracks), I can listen to different songs for between two and three weeks without having to listen to one song twice. Of course I skip a few songs, but still.
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I thought CDs were a thing of the past? Why would a thief want to steal them if no one wants such old tech anymore? :tongue:
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Because up until now I didn't know of any car that could play tracks other than in mp3 format.�
Jul 18, 2013
brianman Ah, ok.
For reference, Tesla officially says...
Model S Specs | Tesla Motors
... but before the production vehicles were on the road we already verified that the betas supported raw WAV, some flavors of WMA (including lossless), FLAC, etc.�
Jul 18, 2013
gregincal Of course you can't listen to any of that music at home during that time, but OK. It definitely seems to me that failing to see the advantage of having all your music available at all times (both at home and in the car) is just being stuck in your ways just because you don't want to change.�
Jul 18, 2013
Laumb Does the car support this tiny USB readers you put a MicroSD card into? So basically its identical to the really tiny Flash drives you get?�
Jul 18, 2013
dsm363 Thieves would steal your CDs because then they could rip them and put the songs on a thumb drive or iPod I guess.
I think this thread may have reached its conclusion. You want a CD player and most others don't which is fine. Hopefully you can find some way to pipe your CDs into the Model S if you decide to get one. Of course one can't listen to more than 10 CDs on a normal trip but most people don't listen to more than a few songs from each CD and also want to listen to different music at different times. Having a few hundreds CDs instantly available seems more convenient to me but you disagree.�
Jul 18, 2013
rlang59 Yes it does. That is what I use, almost cant see it in the port.�
Jul 18, 2013
SwedishAdvocate To me, that�s a good and valid point. I actually can�t remember when I bought my last CD, and I just can�t think of a reason why I would buy another. My CD-collection just seems like another meaningless pile of unsustainable plastic. In fact, since quite a while back I try to steer clear as much as I possibly can from all things plastic�
So.., I�m wholeheartedly with the Model S crowd.
If I had the money and absolutely needed a car I would probably be jumping up and down by now in anticipation of my new Model S 85 on it�s way to my anxious arms. A CD-drive or not wouldn�t make any difference whatsoever. Because the more of the Model S Tesla sells, the faster the Tesla GEN3 � or something equivalent � will appear on this planet (Though I guess in a perfect world that would be the size of an Audi A3 wagon� But hopefully one day not too far away that�ll also be a reality.).�
Jul 18, 2013
Cashoverass Dear Everyone, Can I please have all your cds? You obviously don't care about having them anymore and I love collecting CDs!
I started to transfer some of my itunes files onto my measly 4 gig thumb drive. it was so slow! but when I woke up I had 4 gigs of music to listen to in my car! pretty cool. I have my 500 gig slim hard drive enroute so hopefully once I get that, I can actually listen to the music I like and not stupid slacker radio shuffling.
Thanks.�
Jul 18, 2013
jerry33 Most of the songs I have on my thumb drive only come on CDs. If I could download them rather than purchase CDs, I would.�
Jul 18, 2013
neroden I'm retaining CDs as an archival format -- they have a good reputation for lasting for decades (which flash drives do not). However, ripping my collection... well, my fiancee was ripping about one every 30 seconds using the program "k3b". It was the opposite of "a lot of effort". It was easy.
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Given that it's running Linux, you should expect that any *free to implement* format will be supported natively -- it costs them nothing. So that includes WAV, AIFF, FLAC. I haven't tested Ogg though...
I can hear some stuff which most people can't, so I use FLAC ("free lossless audio compression") for most of my rips. I use raw .wav when I need to do some tweaking with an audio editor, which is sometimes necessary for CDs with really odd track setups.
See, Tesla has one serious defect in their music player. It stutters between tracks. This makes it hard to play symphony albums, or pop albums which segue directly from one track into the next, unless you glue the entire album together into one file. Most CD rippers will default to ripping into individual tracks, even the ones which handle the pre-gap correctly (and I would never use one which dind't handle pregap correctly).�
Jul 18, 2013
trils0n I would love gapless playback! This is one of the few things that bugs me about the car. Every piece of music player software I've ever used has had an option for gapless playback, so hopefully it will come as a software update.�
Jul 19, 2013
VaG Sorry in advance for the massive post. I can't believe the level of disrespect that's being shown to the Original Poster of this thread. People are allowed to start a thread on anything they want� your time is not wasted if you accidentally click on a thread title, it is your choice to do so. The OP just wants to play CDs from time to time and cannot. Why are people calling him crazy? Why are people saying CDs are a thing of the past? Why are people advising him to rip his CDs first instead?
If I was taking someone on a road trip in the Model S and they stepped into my car with five CDs in hand� should I exclaim "Get outta my car with those things, dude! This is the car of the future, not the past!" Of course not. We should simply be able to play CDs if they are presented.
However on the $100,000 Tesla Model S (whose price is probably at the 99th percentile of car prices), you can't do anything with them. Every other car on the market has a CD player. The person stepping into your car just assumes it will too, it ain't their fault you spent your $100,000 on a Tesla Model S.
The Original Poster did not say "I hate the idea of playing digital files, I ONLY want to play CDs!" but some people here have reacted as if that's what he said. The Original Poster probably has a bunch of digital files, and knows how to get the car to play them. They just want to be able to put a CD into the slot as well, now and again.
Let's remind everyone that CDs contain, by default, the highest-quality music format that is currently sold. (putting SACD & DVD-A to one side) iTunes, Spotify, Sirius/XM, Pandora et. al all sell music files whose quality is BELOW this. Even if it is indeed more convenient to find anything from Pink Floyd to Daft Punk, those services don't sound as good as a CD does, and that matters to some people. Ya know, it might matter more than you think to buyers of the Tesla Model S, who are spending $70,000 or more on a car.
There is no doubt that the Model S is a fantastic car and we're all thankful that Tesla put it out on the market. However we know their profit margins are razor thin and the car is lean on frills - they are even trying to downgrade or remove things from the car as long as it doesn't cause a revolt among customers! (fog lights are an example)
Some years ago there must have been a conversation like this -
Engineer: We've been looking at the cost of building the Model S for $49,900 and it simply won't make a profit.
Musk: It needs to be profitable, even if only by one dollar, otherwise our investors will crucify us on the stock market for producing a loss-making car. It's a deathbed we can't get out of� no matter how many cars we make, they're all making a loss!!!
Engineer: the only way we can do that is strip everything out of the car we don't need� and this also means reducing the number of parts required to put the car together, as it will take less time to make the car
Musk: well maybe we can forget to build in a lot of things like door pockets, cup holders, clothes hooks, lighted vanity mirrors, a CD player, extra 12V sockets and USB sockets, and analogue audio input
Engineer: some customers may not like all that, when it costs over $50K and maybe up to $100K but yes, maybe we can make $1 of profit on each car if we don't have all those extra parts
Musk: we all know they're interested in the car because it's electric� not because it has lots of dual 12V sockets and lighted vanity mirrors etc.
And so there we have it. The CD player is not present because it represents extra parts, pieces and labour time required to make the car. CD players aren't even expensive, they're dirt cheap. They were simply eliminated from the design by prioritisation.
This is a tragedy for audiophiles. The Tesla Model S is the quietest car available today, so the noise floor over which you would play your music is super-low, allowing for an amazing audio experience. The tragedy is twofold: Tesla does not provide a solution as an option (doesn't have to be packed up with other stuff, it can be separate like the $250 rear cargo cover); and there doesn't appear to be anything on the market that we can use to get the car to play a CD. I wish either one of those was not true. I do not mind that the Tesla Model S ships the way it does. And I am a regular user of digital files, my personal music collection which includes a lot of film scores is about 650GB of lossless files. But I do have CDs, I buy CDs even now, and the music I want to play is on either digital media or discs.
Why do I buy CDs? 1) they sound better than the music that us sold on iTunes and 2) it is cheaper. Better and cheaper! Pretty convincing argument. Here is an example of cheaper: (Not sure if this link will work)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B00C061I3K/ref=sr_1_1_ha_olp?ie=UTF8&qid=1374218498&sr=8-1&keywords=daft+punk+random+access+memories&condition=used
That is the latest album by Daft Punk, all 13 tracks for just $6.16. All you have to to is rip it lossless to your collection and you have the entire album, sounding better than any service you can buy it on, for the price of about 5 lossy tracks that are sold to you for $1.29 each. Yes there is postage fees, but you get my point. CDs are still a realistic solution even in 2013.
Some people want the best, and that is why they are driving the Tesla. They also want the best quality music they can find� and CDs provide that.
I've looked all over for ways to hook up a player (even a laptop with a drive) into the USB socket as if the player is a USB memory drive, and none appear to exist.
There are plenty of external optical disc readers (and I love my Sony BDX-S600U) but only computers with software drivers can use them. As an earlier poster pointed out, Tesla will have to write some software for their Android-based system to recognize an audio CD if it's in a player plugged into a USB socket. THAT WOULD BE FRIKKIN' AMAZING, TESLA, PLEASE DO IT. And it would put the CD discussion to rest, because if you want to do it, you can do it, and it isn't affecting the cost of the car.�
Jul 19, 2013
aaronw There really isn't a good place to put a CD player or a changer in the model S and though CDs are cheap and sound superior to MP3s they're disappearing. Tesla is not alone in not having a CD player. My father's Fisker Karma lacks a CD player as well. He has the added disadvantage in that unlike my Tesla he can't play FLAC lossless audio compressed files (plus the interface to the media player is horrible). I would suggest contacting ownership and suggest adding support for USB CD/DVD players for media. Since it runs Linux it should be relatively easy to support. I have an inexpensive USB DVD ROM drive that I use for my netbook.
CD players in cars have been disappearing for a few years now. It's just more convenient to store a large collection on a thumb drive than a CD and most consumers can't seem to tell the difference between a low bitrate MP3 and good uncompressed audio.
I have been slowly going through my CD collection and converting everything to flac audio files. The beauty of that is that flac is a lossless compression scheme so there is no loss in fidelity. If I need MP3, it's trivial to convert.�
Jul 19, 2013
dsm363 No one called him crazy. Can you point to the post? You actually end up making our point with the rest of your post and that is you can accomplish the same quality with a lossless format. I buy CDs as well for the same reason so that I can rip them in a lossless format, have a copy in my car on the USB drive, and keep the CD out of my car as a backup if something ever happens to the drive. The very first thing I do when a CD arrives is put it in my computer to get the lossless format on my computer. Takes 30 seconds of my time.
I seriously doubt the decision was make over a $1 profit. This really is the car of the future and a design decision was made that CDs really aren't used much anymore now that most people have their music as digital files on their iPod/iPhone/mobile phone....etc
If Tesla supports a plug in CD player over USB that would be great. No one said that shouldn't be allowed just that they didn't think it was needed as a default. As aaronw said, there really isn't a good place to put it in the car unless you wanted to put a CD changer in the trunk.
The Model S isn't the only car without a CD player but is part of a growing trend.
CD Players Make Slow Exit From New Cars - KickingTires�
Jul 19, 2013
AnOutsider Yeah, none of my other cars have CD players.�
Jul 19, 2013
Skotty I've never seen a car with a sound system that didn't have a physical media player (be it tape, CD, DVD, 8-track, whatever). For years now, most aftermarket radios and most factory ones as well have had aux audio in ports, which essentially gives you universal support for pretty much anything that didn't come with your car. It sounds like the Model S doesn't have that either? I really think that if they are going to leave out the CD/DVD player, they should at least have an aux audio in port.
An example of why a simple USB port is possibly not quite good enough would be Ford cars with the Sync system. When you put a thumb drive in, it spends quite some time indexing all the music, which is great once it's in place. But sometimes you want to just take a few new songs or some other temporary audio thing out to the car for a day. You don't really want to switch out the thumb drive as then it will have to re-index everything again, plus you can't easily switch back to your main music collection easily. Better just to throw your temporary audio stuff on a CD and use the CD player for it. If you finish listening to it before your trip is over, you just switch inputs back to your main music on the thumb drive. Easy and effective. (note that a manufacturer could also provide multiple USB slots for multiple drives as another advanced option, though I have never seen that offered to date).
With a Model S, it sounds like you are limited to switching out the thumb drive. Okay, given it's an early adopter car that still has some limits, but nonetheless, a cheap Ford with Sync has a better system. Personally, given how much Tesla has done with the Model S and how great a car it is, I can accept that as a minor limitation, but I wouldn't defend it; not if they don't at least have an aux in port.�
Jul 19, 2013
dsm363 An AUX port would be nice but the indexing doesn't take long. It also connects to your phone via Bluetooth so all music on your phone is instantly available too. The Model S is not hurting for sources of music.�
Jul 19, 2013
jkirkebo I don't see the point in using a thumb drive either. In the Leaf, all I ever do is stream Spotify from my cell phone to the car over Bluetooth. I only connect the USB cable if I need to charge the phone. Also the phone holds my entire music collection nicely but that gets little use after Spotify came into existence.�
Jul 19, 2013
twinklejet I think we should just nudge Tesla for a full-fledged built-in blu-ray player option instead complete with 2 screens (one on each headrest facing the 2nd row) and automatic surround sound decoding into the various speakers. They can call it the passenger entertainment package or something and yes, it will probably play CDs and DVDs and VCDs.�
Jul 19, 2013
dmunjal Even blu-ray is obsolete. How about an HDMI input or even Airplay streaming support?�
Jul 19, 2013
gregincal It doesn't sound like the Ford has a better system if it spends quite some time indexing the music. The Model S indexes all 5000 of my songs in probably about 20 seconds. If I want to play some new music that I haven't yet got on the thumb drive I just stream it from my phone. The hassle of burning a CD sounds like a really poor alternative. Also, the Model S does have 2 USB slots.�
Jul 19, 2013
brianman Called it.
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Jul 19, 2013
HHHH I don't always listen to music, but when I do I prefer Spotify. Stay listening my friends.�
Jul 19, 2013
twinklejet Yep I read that but i elaborated on it cos u seem to be referring to video on the center screen�
Nov 28, 2014
Andyw2100 No CD option (for books on tape from library) even with "premium" audio package?
I just discovered that apparently the Tesla does not include a CD player. I have searched some old threads, but can't seem to find any information that contradicts this. Is it really true that there is no CD player (or even auxiliiary input option if I wanted to use a portable CD player) so that my wife can listen to books on tape that she borrows from the library? She has a one hour drive each way most days, and that (the two-hour daily commute) is one of the main reasons we decided to spring for the Tesla, sight unseen. It never dawned on me that the car, with the $4500 upgrade to the stereo system, couldn't play a CD! I realize that the technology is old, but there are still uses for it, and I can't imagine it would have added much to the cost of the system.
Assuming there is no way to play a CD in the car, has anyone come up with a good solution via bluetooth and a portable CD player of some sort? Again, I am not interested in anything that requires transferring of files, as I'm talking about borrowing books on tape from a library, listening to them once, and returning them.
If a solution using bluetooth exists, I'm hoping it will play through the car's audio system in such a way that when incoming calls are received, etc., playback is paused, but I fear that's probably not going to happen if the device isn't also under the car's control.
So now this is also a safety issue, as when a call comes in the device playing the CD will have to be paused manually.
The more I think about this, the more upset I am getting.
Thanks.�
Nov 28, 2014
smsprague What's a CD�
Nov 28, 2014
Andyw2100 That's really helpful. Thanks.
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I've realized that perhaps I should be looking at options for borrowing e-books in formats the car can play instead of trying to figure out a way to get the car to play CDs. I'm going to start doing that too.�
Nov 28, 2014
smsprague No CD option (for books on tape from library) even with "premium" audio package?
Come on just a light joke - the Kindle app can play books on tape - you can check them out digitaly for free from your local library - then stream it using Bluetooth�
Nov 28, 2014
smsprague I will try it�
Nov 28, 2014
Andyw2100 Sorry if I didn't see it as all that funny. It's just that in the last few minutes before posting I had discovered that this car that I have fallen in love with, but never seen, that I have spent a huge sum of money on, might not be able to allow my wife to do the main thing she does while driving--listen to books on tape.
I have since discovered that her library does have some titles available for download, which gives me hope that others do as well, so I am now less concerned. I expect there also may be pay-services that for some annual fee may give her access to a large number of books, so I am definitely feeling better about things.
But for a while there I was thinking that my wife was going to be stuck unable to listen to her books on tape in the Tesla, which was very upsetting. I apologize if I over-reacted to your joke.�
Nov 28, 2014
wycolo > I am not interested in anything that requires transferring of files, as I'm talking about borrowing books on tape from a library, listening to them once, and returning them. [AndyW2100]
Books 'on tape' means what exactly? A device like a Kindle (or its competitors) can natively play eBook etc files which are proprietary. On the other hand a generic boom box can play an audio CD without issue. Are the CDs you have with 'spoken books' playable on a generic boom box? Or are they playing thru some proprietary program?
I would like to play spoken books in the Tesla but don't know the best or easiest way to do this.
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Nov 28, 2014
Majerus I would suggest signing up for a trial of audible and see if that is a solution for you.�
Nov 28, 2014
JakeP A couple options:
1) Rip them to MP3 yourself, put them on a USB stick, play from My Devices/USB.
2) Borrow them in digital format, as you have noted.
3) Use Audiobooks or similar playback app from your iPhone, bluetooth connection to the car. This often requires you to purchase the Audiobook, rather than borrow from library (grrrr!).
4) Listen to Podcasts on TuneIn Radio instead of audiobooks...though if TuneIn connectivity drops, it loses your place in the podcast, and you cannot skip to a position within a podcast. This forces you to find the podcast on your phone, find where you were you, and then play via bluetooth from your phone.
The interface is decidedly lacking for listen to audio and maintaining placeholders, but hopefully that will be improved in the future.�
Nov 28, 2014
golfski You could always convert the CD audio to MP3 format and play them from a USB stick as well. There are lots of free programs for Mac/Windows that can do this.�
Nov 28, 2014
swaltner If the Kindle app doesn't work to your liking, Overdrive has similar library checkouts of media content (eBooks, audiobooks, video) from your local library.
OverDrive – Library eBooks and Audiobooks on the App Store on iTunes is where to download it for iOS devices. Assuming it's also available for other portable devices...�
Nov 28, 2014
smsprague My fault also, I wanted to try it first before my second post - just used ibooks to stream an audio book and it works�
Nov 28, 2014
jerry33 Using a thumb drive is far better than a CD player--at least the ones I've had always break and jam. I've lost a couple of CDs that I can't get anymore because of this.�
Nov 28, 2014
GSP Older thread on this topic:
Disappointed in the media situation so far (No CD player in Model S) [Archive] - Tesla Motors Club - Enthusiasts & Owners Forum
There might (or might not) be some other good ideas there.
GSP�
Nov 28, 2014
EdA I have used the OverDrive app extensively for listening to audio books checked out from my library and downloaded to my iPhone and streamed over Bluetooth..�
Nov 28, 2014
Firewired I second the Audible.com as an option. I am a longtime user, though the titles are not free, the subscription plan where you pre-purchase credits is pretty good deal as well as is the easy of use.�
Nov 28, 2014
robatbeach Once I got a smartphone and discovered overdrive for audio books and stitcher for podcasts, the CD player on my last car grew cobwebs. Not fumbling with changing CDs even with a multi disc player is helpful. Don't miss CD on Tesla.�
Nov 28, 2014
wycolo Talking Books large customer base is among visually impaired yet OverDrive's web pages are clogged with 'tasteful' pastel text that is severely difficult to read. [bitch mode OFF]
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Nov 28, 2014
dsm363 I don't miss a CD player at all. I understand it is a transition but just one of those things. Really nothing to get upset about. The percentage of people still using CDs in car is likely so small the added cost isn't worth it for Tesla. Plus it represents an outdated technology and provides no benefit over digital files on a thumb drive. You can buy a 128Gb drive now that can hold a few thousand mp3s so I'd argue that is a safety improvement. No need to fumble around and change a CD while driving.
Depending on how many CDs you have, converting them can be done in a day at most. Sure not a great way to spend a day but you can do other things like read or watch TV while ripping the files. There are even services you can ship your CDs and pay to have this done.
You'll love this car. I wouldn't let something like this sour the experience. I think you'll find a decreasing number of new cars are putting CD players in them too.�
Nov 28, 2014
donv No, Tesla doesn't offer a CD player. Nor do they offer a cassette player, or an 8 track, or even an LP record player. Going forward, I think fewer and fewer cars will offer CD players...
I would also suggest Audible. Or possibly Kindle. We listen to audio books all the time. Podcasts would also be worth looking into-- and (with some issues) TuneIn, which is built into the car, can do that.�
Nov 28, 2014
wycolo My local library has 1700+ 'audio' CDs and the State-wide system has bazillions, so I reserved JD Salinger's Catcher In The Rye (which is 6 CDs). Read the book in high school so time to have it spoon fed to me, unfortunately NOT by JD himself in this case. Then I'll rip to mp3 and load onto a usb flash stick for playing in the ModelS. I hope the MS interface will play and pause this easily whilst driving down the road. Dealing with physcal CDs will make this simple. You could also rip movie sound only which would be fine for 'talky' movies like My Dinner With Andre (1981) etc. I use the freeware Audacity program which is available for Mac, Windoz, Linux desktops to do the ripping.
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Nov 28, 2014
mspohr The CD player in by older car died a few years ago. Replaced it with a plug for my smartphone. Never looked back. Between streaming music/audio and my mp3 library, I haven't used a CD in a car in years. (Another car has a functional CD player but I never use it.)�
Nov 28, 2014
Andyw2100 Thanks for all the suggestions. I expect we will be able to come up with something that will work, though probably nothing that will pause playback automatically if an incoming call is received. I think I'm leaning towards e-books from the library systems and Overdrive for now, as that is most similar what my wife has been doing, and doesn't add any expense or a lot of preparation time. I briefly looked at Audible, and it appears to cost $15 per month, and include just one book per month. The cost, though not trivial would not necessarily be a deal-breaker, but the one book per month would be. If there is a similar service out there with an annual fee and a significantly higher book limit, that might be an option. We'll need to do some research. Again, it was only earlier today that we discovered this was going to be an issue, so we haven't done a lot of looking around yet.
I assume when the car's sound system is playing music from flash drives and a call is received, the music is paused, right? So if that is true, if we came up with a way to play audio books from a flash drive (instead of from a phone, with Overdrive) then presumably the audio books would also be paused during an incoming (or outgoing) call, right? If this is possible, this would offer the best solution.�
Nov 28, 2014
jerry33 That is correct. It pauses when there is a phone call or you mute the volume. Music also pauses when playing from your iPhone over Bluetooth (or at least it used to--I haven't played that way since the car was new and I hadn't transferred music to the thumb drive).�
Nov 28, 2014
Andyw2100 Thanks! The part about the iPhone surprises me, but also bodes well for my plans if I do go with the Overdrive from the iPhone. I assumed that solution would not allow for paused playback, but is actually sounds like it will.
Thanks!�
Nov 28, 2014
MitchMitch I was tickled to see this old thread was revived. I had visions of everything from a Sony Diskman plugged into a Bluetooth transmitter to these fun possibilities run through my over-egg-nogged-head.
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Nov 28, 2014
PlanB Here's a start!
Amazon.com: USB DIGITAL LIBRARY - INCLUDES 3000 CLASSIC BOOKS!: Computers Accessories�
Nov 28, 2014
Andyw2100 Thanks, but these aren't recordings, but rather just the text of the books. My wife listens to the recordings of books, which used to be known as "books on tape." That may not be the correct term for it any more, but the concept has not changed: it is a recording of someone reading the book.�
Nov 28, 2014
PlanB Yeah my bad, wrong link.
Amazon.com: Audible Audiobooks: Books�
Nov 28, 2014
MartinAustin Let me add myself to the group who wants to be able to play a CD in the car.
I have a 256GB flash drive with 17,000 FLACs on it. I don't want to take that functionality away... I want additional functionality - to be able to play a CD now and again. Like if I am handed a CD from someone who has it in their collection. (I can't play it until I take it home and go through the whole ripping & transfer process, how elegant is that? It's not... it's ****)
I dearly hope they some day find the resources to support standard USB CDROM drives that can play audio CDs, or even, introduce a badge-engineered, low-sales-volume Tesla accessory player of their own that can plug in to the USB socket. I would seriously pay $100 for that.
Putting an unbalanced stereo "AUX IN" into every car during manufacture seems like the wrong way to go, but it wouldn't hurt... I would settle for that even if it'd have a sound quality hit, but the USB audio approach would be best as there is no degradation of sound quality.
Please don't criticise me or anyone else on this awesome thread for wanting to play optical CDs AS WELL AS the other audio sources that the Model S can handle. We want more. It's cruel that every other BEV on the market has a way to play optical CDs, but the king-of-kings Tesla Model S does not.
2015 Chevy Spark EV has no CD player built into the dash, but it has AUX IN.
2015 Kia Soul EV has no CD player built into the dash, but it has AUX IN.
2015 Mercedes B-Class EV has no CD player built into the dash, but it has AUX IN.
2015 Chevy Volt has a CD player built right into the dash.
2015 Mitsubishi m-iEV has a CD player built right into the dash.
Tesla Model S... no CD player and no AUX IN.�
Nov 29, 2014
David_Cary Add Leaf 2011-2015 - CD player in dash, Aux in, USB�
Nov 29, 2014
arg If none of the digital options works for you, an old-school CD player plus one of these would probably do the job:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Wireless-Bluetooth-Transmitter-Adapter-version/dp/B00778FMQ0/ref=pd_sim_sbs_ce_8
The CD audio would be automatically muted, but obviously not paused using an adaptor like this.�
Nov 29, 2014
Andyw2100 Thanks.
Someone else had suggested the same sort of thing via PM. The suggestions are appreciated, as I knew those things existed (at some point) but hadn't thought of them.
In fact, even if we wind up with one of the digital solutions, we're still going to need a solution that uses the FM radio transmission technology for when I have the Tesla and my wife takes her current car to work, which may happen about 1/4 to 1/3 of the time. If she's in the middle of a book, she's not going to want to just listen to a different on on actual CD and be constantly switching back and forth. As it turns out, even though her current car has a built in bluetooth system, we have opted for a Motorola Roadster 2 to use in that car, as the sound quality for phone calls is actually better. And though we haven't used the Roadster 2 this way, I checked the manual (online) to make sure, and it can stream music to the car's FM radio. So I think that will be the solution for how she'll listen to the books on tape in digital format when she's in the car that can't accept them in digital format.
We're going to have to jump through a lot of hoops because our $130,000+ car doesn't come with a $50 CD player, but if this turns out to be my worst complaint about the car, I'll be exceedingly happy! I know in the long-run this is a minor inconvenience.�
Nov 29, 2014
AoneOne Now that CD drives have disappeared from most laptops, USB-attached CD drives are commonplace. Has anyone tried running one of these from Tesla's USB ports?�
Nov 29, 2014
bob_p Playing audiobooks converted to MP3 on a USB memory stick is not an acceptable solution due to the software's limitations in playing MP3 files - with the strong possibility it will not retain the current position being played in a very long MP3 file - and navigating back using the limited user interface can be extremely challenging.
At least with the current (very basic) media playback controls, using a smartphone over Bluetooth is the only option for having more control over media playback.
I used to convert my audiobooks to CDs and play them in my previous cars - and converted to using the Audible app on my smartphone with the Model S. And now that I've used that for almost two years - it's a much better solution - because the app has knowledge about the structure of the audiobook file - and has more options for smart positioning (skipping forward/backward chapters, fast playback, skip 30 seconds, ...).
It would be even better if a native Audible application was added into the Model S, like Slacker and TuneIn. But at least until then, smartphone apps over BT work well, except for having to use the smartphones much smaller screen to navigate playback, instead of the 17" touchscreen...�
Nov 29, 2014
Andyw2100 That's very helpful information. Thanks. I'll take off of my list of options the idea of playing anything from a USB disk.
It sounds like at least some, if not all of the library downloads are going to have to be played using the Overdrive app, so I imagine that should work similarly to the way the Audible interface works.
Thanks again!�
Nov 30, 2014
JohnQ Tested the other night in response to this thread. A USB CD drive is not recognized by the media system.�
Nov 30, 2014
andrewket Personally I think moving to a digital format would be best. Ripping a CD takes very little effort. But if you really want to use CDs, buy a portable CD player and this adapter:
TaoTronics TT-BA01 Wireless Portable Bluetooth Stereo Music Transmitter (Not A Bluetooth Receiver) for 3.5mm Audio Devices (iPod, MP3/MP4, TV, Kindle Fire, Media Players...) Amazon.com: TaoTronics TT-BA01 Wireless Portable Bluetooth Stereo Music Transmitter (Not A Bluetooth Receiver) for 3.5mm Audio Devices (iPod, MP3/MP4, TV, Kindle Fire, Media Players...): Electronics�
Nov 30, 2014
Andyw2100 Thanks for doing that for us. Too bad, but good to know.�
Nov 30, 2014
artsci I took my entire CD collection and had it converted to AIFF files and saved to a USB hard drive. I also add new files through conversions of old CDs. It's much better than carrying around a lot of CD's and fiddling with disc insertion. I don't regret not having a CD player one bit.�
Nov 30, 2014
wycolo How easy is pausing? This is critical for 'spoken books' as opposed to music cuts. A screen shot of the interface would be nice!
MP3 would work the same as AIFF, FLAC, APE etc?
Powering a usb hard drive/usb CD player should be done separately from the wimpy power available via the usb in-port? IOW use a separate power plug to run the motor etc.
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Nov 30, 2014
AnOutsider Honestly, for books where keeping location is super important, I'd stick to a dedicated app like Audible and stream. If you have an item marked as a book and load it into iTunes (and then onto your iPhone), those also retain location.�
Nov 30, 2014
mibaro2 Just tried 2 portable cd/dvd drives I have. One is from Apple, the other from Pioneer and is Windows compatible .
Both didn't work. It didn't show up as a device in My Devices. I don't think the power to the USB port is enough to power the portable cd player.
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Looks like JohnQ beat me to it�
Nov 30, 2014
wycolo > I don't think the power to the USB port is enough to power the portable cd player. [mibaro2]
Thats what I was getting at - you need to power directly from the 12v power outlet > small inverter > usb power cube > special 'double' usb cable. Even with proper power there is likely no usb support in this Linux implementation.
Easier to just play the cd on a laptop and use the spacebar to pause. :smile:
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Nov 30, 2014
mspohr I think we need to face the reality that the CD (and the DVD) have gone the way of the 8Track tapes... may they RIP.
Between streaming and ripping and online sources, there is no need to fiddle with plastic discs or tapes.�
Nov 30, 2014
jerry33 At least in the car. There is still plenty of music where the only way to get CD/DVD quality is to buy the disk and then rip it losslessly.�
Nov 30, 2014
Mnlevin I am old school, don't know too much about high tech, but put my collection on my Samsung S5 and play it though the Bluetooth. Works perfect and when I get a call it stops. Also the phone works great with the system. Because of security on my phone it is locked almost always, however I am able to scroll though contact and even dial a number though the system with my phone locked. Also can play or select music through the phone while locked if I use the touchscreen. love the system, believe us all, CDs are a thing of the past and have no place in this car.
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Nov 30, 2014
jdbob I thought to myself "why would they put a CD player in a car in this day and age?" when I bought a C-Max Energi last year. I've never used it, but maybe the marketing people at Ford listen to books on CD :wink:�
Nov 30, 2014
artsci True for me. I never download MP3 files for anything. If the music is not available in a lossless file, I don't play it. Nearly all of the music I play in my Model S has been ripped losslessly from CD's. The Reus system reveals almost painfully poor recordings and sound files.�
Nov 30, 2014
jerry33 I've found you don't need a Reus system to reveal that. The Sound Studio does it quite nicely
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Dec 1, 2014
bob_p Pausing playback is easy and can be done either by pushing the left steering wheel scroll wheel or by hitting the pause button on the media playback display on the touchscreen.
The problem is that the system can lose position on USB playback - especially if you are also using that USB with songs.
Doesn't seem like it would be too difficult to make a few small improvements that would help the playback experience considerably...�
Dec 1, 2014
Robert.Boston There are various online music retailers who sell HD music downloads, e.g. http://www.hdtracks.com/
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Dec 2, 2014
breser First of all I'd talk to the library and see if they have digital audio book loans. For example the New York Public Library does this:
The New York Public Library, eNYPL
Another option is to look at Audible:
Audible: Try it free. Audiobooks on your phone, tablet or computer. | Audible.com
Those are probably the most elegant solutions. Otherwise you might have to use something like this (no idea how well this works, just found it searching):
Amazon.com: TaoTronics TT-BA01 Wireless Portable Bluetooth Stereo Music Transmitter (Not A Bluetooth Receiver) for 3.5mm Audio Devices (iPod, MP3/MP4, TV, Kindle Fire, Media Players...): Electronics
That combined with a portable battery powered CD player would do the trick. However as you pointed out that wouldn't work very well with bluetooth phone calls since it can't pause.�
Dec 2, 2014
taurusking What about streaming videos...at least in park mode
Just a thought�
Dec 2, 2014
Andyw2100 Thanks, Breser.
I'm hoping we'll be able to make things work with e-books and Overdrive or a similar app. Audible may be an option too, though it appears their highest volume option is two books per month for about $23 per month. I'm pretty sure my wife would typically go through more than two books in a month, but perhaps if she winds up exhausting the free options, Audible and the remaining free options may wind up being a solution.
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My need for the CD player was for my wife, who likes to listen to books while driving about two hours a day.�
Feb 12, 2016
Skotty Just thought I would revive this again...because it's getting close to time to finally trade up my Volt for a Model S. I frequently listen to movies on my long drives for business, as I have a large collection of movies on DVD. My 2012 Volt had a DVD player built into the dash. Insert disk, start movie, and off I go (screen turns off but audio plays, which is fine). Hard to replicate this on a Model S. It's very difficult to rip DVDs, and I'm not sure if any of the old school DRM violating DVD ripping programs can convert it to a suitable audio format that can be put on USB. And it takes a long time to rip a DVD, especially since the DRM nazis made it so most newer DVD players cannot rip at over 2x speed. I can get a portable DVD player, but how do I get the audio into the car? Best bet I guess is to use one of those bluetooth transmitters, though I've heard some of those don't work with the Model S. Guess I'll just buy one after another until one of them works. And I assume it means I can't use my phone in the car if I do.
You know what would make the whole problem go away? Aux in port. My Volt has one of those too.�
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