Thứ Sáu, 3 tháng 2, 2017

What to do with phone? Mount? part 1

  • Sep 3, 2015
    Thedrifter5
    Looking for ideas for smartphone placement. I've been letting it slosh around in the middle tray, but there has to be a better way. Ideas for Tesla friendly mounts?
  • Sep 3, 2015
    yobigd20
    I use a tetrax geo mount on the vent to the left of the 17" console

    [video]http://youtube.com/watch?v=X12W8LygAgQ[/video]
  • Sep 3, 2015
    bollar
  • Sep 3, 2015
    Cyclone
  • Sep 3, 2015
    benjiejr
  • Sep 3, 2015
    jbcarioca
    I use this too. It works. I do not much like the big magnet on the back of my iPhone case but that is not a huge problem.
  • Sep 3, 2015
    bollar
    I just taped mine inside the case, so it's not visible. d72688cfd55ff49345a8ae7b2d9597b8.jpg

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  • Sep 3, 2015
    Xenoilphobe
    Steele mount below right side drivers dash vent with iPhone six plus
  • Sep 3, 2015
    mikeash
    I'm a big fan of the iMagnet:

    iMagnet Mount, original magnetic car phone mount holder stand

    The suction cup is some crazy gecko's feet material that sticks to almost anything. The phone end is a magnetic mount. I haven't found a need for a phone mount in my Tesla personally, but I have this mount from before and it's great. The fancy suction cup lets you put it pretty much anywhere there's a vaguely flat surface, doesn't even have to be smooth.
  • Sep 3, 2015
    jlucero
    is that slimline and the steelie pretty similar products? what are the differences?
  • Sep 3, 2015
    Max*
    No.

    One has a big magnet on the phone, so that means your phone could also be hung off any metal object anywhere, but it protrudes.
    The other one has the magnet on the ball, and a thin sticker on your phone. So you can only hang your phone on the ball.
  • Sep 3, 2015
    tomp
  • Sep 3, 2015
    slevit1md
    Hands down, best mounts are from proclipusa.com. I've been using them for years, upgrading each time I get a new phone or vehicle. Multiple mounting options for pretty much every vehicle out there and the most secure option you'll find. They seem built into the car and they're individually designed for each mounting spot on each vehicle.
  • Sep 3, 2015
    Kalud
    +1 ProclipUSA.com

    The one on the vent between the steering wheel and the touch screen.
  • Sep 3, 2015
    StaticDischarge
    I use a wireless charging stand (ebay) and leave it down in the tray.

    There are two, held together on the back via double stick tape to a small piece of wood. 90 degree brackets taped to the back keep the phones in place on curves.



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  • Sep 3, 2015
    slevit1md
    I use the one that goes on the bottom right of the touch screen. Love it.
  • Sep 3, 2015
    Pete90D
    I have two of these, one on each side of the 17". They can hold an iPhone 6 in the case during Ludicrous launches, an iPad 3 without case in Ludicrous launch, and I also have one of the plates attached to my GoPro for recording reactions and that holds really well as videos showed. They are fantastic.
  • Sep 3, 2015
    jlucero
    can anyone confirm if the slimline product can hold an ipad mini or small tablet?
  • Sep 3, 2015
    bollar
    The message directly above yours suggests yes.

  • Sep 3, 2015
    jlucero
    thanks bollar, not sure how i missed that!
  • Sep 3, 2015
    Vgsllc1
    i use iottie suction cup mount on the right side of the display. iphone 5 only. iphone 6 plus will not stick well (too heavy)
  • Sep 3, 2015
    Bonlaw
    Leave it in your purse. What do you need it out for?
  • Sep 3, 2015
    Pete90D
    One, people always look at me funny when I carry a purse, and two, how am I supposed to text and drive with it in my purse? :tongue:
  • Sep 3, 2015
    Max*
    To display a nav that doesn't suck?
  • Sep 3, 2015
    taurusking

    Good one...:biggrin:
  • Sep 3, 2015
    Kalud
    I use Waze all the time
  • Sep 3, 2015
    bollar
    Yeah. Waze, music, podcasts, "parking sensors", tire pressure. All through the phone.
  • Sep 3, 2015
    brec
    Why do you have two there?
  • Sep 3, 2015
    bollar
    It gives me a larger contact area and more flexibility on sticking the phone. And I didn't have another phone I wanted to mount.
  • Sep 3, 2015
    Cyclone
    I use both magnets that came with my mount (not the slimline, but the first one of the ones I posted on the first page) on my iPhone 6+ to give me a greater area to work with as well.
  • Sep 3, 2015
    yo mama
    I bought the front console with the docking station. So that's where the phone goes, unless my kids want to play Pandora DJ from the back seat.
  • Sep 3, 2015
    dusterbuster
    My understanding is that the Slimline from Abstract Ocean uses sticky tape to attach the magnetic base to the car. I would like to eventually be able to remove the base without causing damage or leaving a sticky mess on the Obeche matte trim (e.g., when I sell the car). Do you think the base can be removed without causing damage or leaving sticky residue?
  • Sep 3, 2015
    bollar
    It's 3M VHB. I removed it with floss and a fingernail and it didn't stain / damage the carbon fibre. I think Pete has said it it's easy to get off the other finishes as well.
  • Sep 3, 2015
    supratachophobia
  • Sep 3, 2015
    SW2Fiddler
    Looks like a good mount, but doesn't that perfect position put the steering wheel in front of the phone?
  • Sep 3, 2015
    supratachophobia
    It can, depending on the angle, but you can really mount it anywhere. And it's not like you want to watch movies while driving right?
  • Sep 3, 2015
    Pete90D
    I was asked for photos of the dual mounts with the iPad... here they are.

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  • Sep 3, 2015
    Andyw2100
    I currently use the Tetrax Geo, almost exactly as pictured in yobigd20's video. (In fact, it was this video, and your recommendation, from another thread, that caused me to buy this, before I even had the car. Thanks!)

    Because of the camera on my phone, etc., I had to put the metal piece more centered on the phone case, and the attachment on the vent then also had to be a little lower than in the video. The bottom line is that while I like this setup, I'm finding, particularly in the summer, that I'm not getting enough of the airflow from that vent.

    The ProclipUSA option that would clip there looks very interesting to me, but I fear I'd have the same problem with lack of airflow. I'm wondering if the fact that there is some distance between the bracket and the vent minimizes that issue, and it is possible to get decent airflow to the driver from that vent with the ProclipUSA holder in place, or if I'd run into the same issue I'm experiencing now. What do those who use the ProclipUSA holders in that location think?

    Thanks!
  • Sep 3, 2015
    Cyclone
    Andy, not directly related, but that very problem is why I didn't get a ProClip on the Tesla. We have a ProClip on the Honda Fit and I complain about the lack of airflow on the driver center vent every time I drive that car. The magnetic mount provided me an opportunity to mount elsewhere and I used a different mount (see first page) that suctions to my Oceche Gloss trim securely.
  • Sep 3, 2015
    Andyw2100
    Thanks.

    I saw that, and saw the picture in the other thread, and the poster who asked what you thought about whether or not the suction cup would adhere to obeche matte or not. I also have obeche matte. I don't like any of the options that involve a more permanent attachment of the base. I couldn't quite make out the brand from the picture. I searched Amazon for icleve and ideve, without any luck. What is the brand of your mount?

    Thanks!

    Edit: I think I found it:

    iclever
    Amazon.com: Car Mount, iClever� ICH04 Magnet CaptureFit Universal Windshield Accessories

    So, Cyclone, I have a question for you...

    Some of the reviews seem to indicate the iclever magnet may not be strong enough to hold some phones going over bumps, etc. I'd prefer not to remove the metal I've already attached to my phone case to use my Tetrax Geo, only to find that's a problem for me. Do the top parts of the iclever mount come off in such a way that you think I could use my Tetrax screw in vent clip, (pictured below) screwed to the arm somehow, and not use the magnet part of the iclever mount at all? Please let me know what you think!

    Thanks!

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  • Sep 4, 2015
    jlucero
  • Sep 4, 2015
    Cyclone
    That is indeed the mount I have (Amazon said I previously purchased it). The only time my phone has ever fallen off is when I accidentally hit it going over a bump while trying to do something on the 17". It has never fallen off on its own. The mount's magnetic top has a screw to loosen or tighten the rotation, but I haven't tried to see if it comes off. That said, you wouldn't be able to mount the existing clip you have to the arm. If you do go this route, as long as you case has room otherwise, you should not need to remove the metal. I have the magnets sitting freely between my iPhone 6+ and the case and it holds strongly.
  • Sep 4, 2015
    Andyw2100

    Thanks!

    It's inexpensive enough that I'll just order it, and see how it goes. I guess one question is whether or not the suction bottom will hold to the obeche matte.

    Thanks again.
  • Sep 4, 2015
    Vuvision
    Got me lol.. :biggrin:
  • Sep 4, 2015
    WATTZEE
    Has anybody used the AO slimline holder with a Lifeproof case? Just wondering if it works with that hefty of a case on an iPhone 6+. Thanks.
  • Sep 4, 2015
    Pete90D
    I haven't use it with the Lifeproof case, but here's my experience with an iPad. The iPad mini holds fine even with launches, but you can't have a case on it because the magnet isn't strong enough for the weight and going through the case. The iPhone6 with the leather case on and the plate between the phone and case will work fine, even with launches. So if you put the magnet on the lifeproof case instead of the phone I would imagine it would hold as it isn't as heavy as an iPad. It's more about how strong a bond there is with the magnet and plate.
  • Sep 4, 2015
    AndyM
    I chose ProClipUSA, and am a very happy customer. The products are high-quality plastic, fit very well, and do not move. I bought a base and clip for a friend's FJ Cruiser who lives on a very bumpy 9-mile 4,000' dirt road climb from the nearest pavement. The clip stays fixed solid in the vent mounting base.

    ProClip is very Tesla-aware. They have a custom mounting base for the Model S that clips onto the frame below the 17" display. Once the base is on, you can select the holder that suits your phone and your needs.
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    In this photo, the clip is to the right of the screen, blocking nothing. To make it easier for the passenger to adjust the volume, I needed to move the clip closer to the driver's side, which blocks access to some of the touch area on the bottom of the display, and gets in the way of the on-screen keyboard when a phone is present. But it's better than mounting at the vent which would block the airflow.
  • Sep 4, 2015
    SW2Fiddler
    Now we're talking. I have asked at stores about a made-for-Tesla solution and no one knew of one.
    This doesn't block air, doesn't hide the phone behind the steering wheel or get in front of the touchscreen, and wouldn't make me string a power cable all over creation.

    Thank you.

    Rick
  • Sep 4, 2015
    Andyw2100
    I did see that mounting option when I looked at their website. My concern was possibly scratching or denting the metal around the 17 inch display. I already have a couple of small dings in my trim, from something an installer did, so I'm thinking that trim may not be particularly hard. Looking at the pictures on the Proclips website, it didn't look like there was any padding or anything to protect the trim from scuffing, scraping, etc. So I'd be interested in first hand experiences with this aspect of it, if you've moved it after using it for a while.

    Thanks!
  • Sep 4, 2015
    pete8314
    Thanks. Yes, 3M VHB is wonderful stuff, up there with WD40, duct tape and zip ties if stranded on a desert island! I've had to remove mine a few times (matte obeche), I have some plastic pry bars that make it super easy, but dental floss does a great job of breaking the bond too, just use a good amount of it so it doesn't cut into your fingers.
  • Sep 4, 2015
    Silenus136
    I tried a few different mounts for my iPhone 6 (not a Plus, just the regular old 6) and recently purchased this (Amazon.com: Car Mount, Mpow Grip Magic Air Vent Magnetic Car Mount Holder for iPhone and Andriod Cellphones, One Step Mounting, Reinforced Magnet, Easier and Safer Driving: Cell Phones Accessories) and it is far and away the best yet, for me. I slipped the mount onto the small piece or lever of the air vent to the right of the steering wheel which protrudes for you to move and angle the vents. Meaning, instead of pushing it onto an actual air vent vein, it slipped nicely and securely enough onto the lever, which allows the phone when mounted to protrude enough that the lip of the dash does not push on the phone. And, you can just push the mount left, right, up or down to adjust the vent, just as you would the lever if the mount were not on it. It comes with a super slim magnet you just slip into the back of your phone case (it is no thicker than a couple pieces of paper) and voila, your phone sticks to the mount, and you just pull it right off when you want. Cheap as dirt ($6) and it works terrifically well for me.
  • Sep 4, 2015
    jlucero
    is your AC strength very reduced with the phone blocking the vent? that is why i have never gotten a vent mount...just curious
  • Sep 5, 2015
    Silenus136
    With just the mount on, only a bit. With the phone on the mount, yeah, ac does not blow directly on me as forcefully and the phone gets super cold. I don't think that is harmful to the phone but I can't say I know for sure. The reduced ac volume hasn't bothered me, but perhaps if I lived in a super hot climate (I am in Southern California, near the ocean, so sometimes warm but not crazy hot), perhaps it would be an unacceptable trade off.
  • Sep 9, 2015
    Andyw2100
    Well, the item arrived quite quickly. It was here on Monday. I installed it in the car very late Monday night, and it seemed to hold OK. With the metal plate inside my phone case, loose between the back of the phone and the case, the phone seemed to adhere well enough to the magnet. I knew that if that was an issue, I could always use the smaller, round piece of metal, and attach it to the outside of my phone's case.

    My wife took the Model S to work on Tuesday, and when she came home I asked her what she thought of the new phone holder. She didn't know what I was talking about. I didn't see how she could have missed it. Well, as it turns out, it must have fallen off and onto the floor on the passenger's side before she left for work in the morning.

    So last night, Tuesday evening, I tried to install it again, making doubly certain to really apply some pressure before flipping the latch to attach the suction cup to the obeche matte. I also was very careful to make sure there was no way there was any gap to allow any air under the suction cup. (I was hoping I had just done something wrong the night before.) Unfortunately this morning the entire unit was again, on the floor of the car.

    The bottom line is the suction cup apparently just won't adhere to the obeche matte the way it will to glass or another smoother surface.

    Note that in these cases the unit became detached without the weight of a phone, in just a few hours, so there was no chance it would have worked with a phone attached, over the course of days.

    I'm back to considering the ProClip options.

    Does the vent option, combined with a universal adjustable holder provide enough of an angling option such that I'd be able to use that on the passenger side vent, just to the right of the center console, instead of the driver's side vent to the left of it? I ask because while it would still block airflow there, I rarely drive with a passenger, and even then, assuming it's the cooling I'm concerned about, I'm likely to want it cooler than my passenger does, so having that one passenger vent somewhat blocked shouldn't be a problem.

    Can someone who has this Proclip combination comment on whether or not this setup would work well?

    Also, how easy is it to just remove the whole thing and pop it into the center console when I leave the car if I'd rather not have it cluttering up the dash when I'm not in the car? I know the two parts screw together, and that the part that clips onto the vents, well--clips onto the vents. I'm just wondering how easy it is to clip it on and off, and if repeated installation and removal would put any real wear and tear on the vents and/or on the Proclip unit.

    Thanks!
  • Sep 9, 2015
    rdrcrmatt
  • Sep 9, 2015
    Kbra
  • Sep 9, 2015
    pete8314
    I like the Tesla center console, but really don't like where it positions the phone, I use mine all the time for Waze and streaming, so don't want to always be looking so far down to see it.
  • Sep 9, 2015
    Canuck
    Why not use Waze on the browser?

    Waze for Tesla Incidents
  • Sep 9, 2015
    pete8314
    Lots of reasons. I prefer the voice prompts for alerts, rather than looking at the map, plus they're a little more specific and granular (i.e. they're relative to the direction of travel, and differentiate between types of hazards). Red light cameras are also notified, but not on the browser. But more importantly, Waze is a crowd-sourced system, and viewing via the browser is a consumption-only model. I've been a supporter of Waze since the beginning, edited maps and so on, so I prefer to be able to contribute to the data, when safe to do so.
  • Sep 9, 2015
    AndyM
    Alas, I wish I could tell you. The only clip I have is the one that mounts on the lower edge of the center display. I leave it in place all the time.
    My best friend will be in town this weekend, and I'll give the vent clip he has a thorough review and see if I can answer your question after that.
  • Sep 9, 2015
    Andyw2100
    Thanks, I appreciate that.

    Also, the holder that you attach to your center display clip is probably the same or similar to the holder that I'd attach to the vent clip. Would you say that holder could rotate far enough to be placed on the vent I'd like to place it on?

    Finally, a question about your console clip...is there any padding or anything to protect it from damaging the trim around the console? From the pictures on the website, it was hard to tell, but it didn't look like there was.

    Again, many thanks!
  • Sep 9, 2015
    Cyclone
    There is on the ProClip for the Honda Fit.
  • Sep 9, 2015
    DA808EV
    Either stick it in my cup holder or the handle area to close the door.
  • Sep 10, 2015
    Kalud
    Sorry I missed your message. I am 100% satisfied with the Proclip option. I actually ordered one for my wife's car (a Mini Cooper that will be replaced someday with a X or 3) and my mother's car. They have custom made bracket for virtually any car.

    I let the pictures tell the story. But basically the two vents are not exactly the same shape so I doubt it works on the right (right of the touch screen) vent. Also during the install there is a small 3M two-sided tape that is used to ensure the holder doesn't move. I used it, so I can't really comment on if its removable and reinstall-able on a daily basis, but maybe if you don't use the small tape strip. It looks optional to me, but its been almost two years now. Its pretty well fitted there, it doesn't move at all even with some force applied.

    I highly suggest that you simply get the same, its well placed. The vent still work, its just the airflow that is no longer directional, but you can still use the right vent towards you.

    Hope this helps!

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    More or less the actual view from the driver. I like this position, when using Waze. Its very visible and doesn't obstruct the view or the touch screen.
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    Right vent has a different shape:
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    This is the option for a phone without a case. I routed a charging cable myself in 10 min around the dashboard and down to the USB port between the seats.
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  • Sep 10, 2015
    Andyw2100
    Thanks very, VERY much for such a detailed post, and for all the pictures! That's an excellent point about the vent on the right side of the display not being the same shape as the one on the left side. I hadn't thought of that! I hope I would have either asked a Proclip rep about it on the phone, or noticed the difference before ordering, but I very well may not have done either, so that's really a big help!

    I also like the position of the phone there, as that is almost exactly where my phone is now. The problem, of course, is the airflow problem. I'm finding that the airflow from the passenger side, and from the other driver's side vent really isn't enough for me much of the time.

    I think I'll try to find out about whether or not the clip that would mount on the display also has that double sided tape or not, since I would definitely want to remove the holder at times, and also whether or not there is anything to protect the metal trim. Depending on the answers, I may go that route, though I do like the higher position better.

    Another option might be to see if Proclip has some sort of a more "universal" vent mount that I might be able to use on the vent on the passenger side.

    I do really appreciate all your assistance! Thanks again!
  • Sep 10, 2015
    Andyw2100

    Actually no need now, as I have ruled out the vent mount options. The closer vent would have the same issue I have now with respect to blocking airflow, and the other vent is not an option because it is shaped differently.

    I am now considering the exact same setup you have, (with the "move clips" added as well, which would allow me to put away half the system when not in use, leaving only the "Angled Mount" and the "move clip" attached and visible all the time.) The really big question I have for you, and also for slevit1md, who also uses this mount (post excerpt below) is how comfortable are you that the metal trim around your 17" display is not in any way being scratched, bent, or dented? I did call Proclip, and they said there was no padding or anything, so it is (as you know) just that hard ABS plastic coming in direct contact with the aluminum (or whatever it is) trim. As I mentioned earlier, I've already experienced how fragile that trim must be, as it was slightly damaged by an installer. Ironically, I'm having that replaced next week, when my car will be in for its annual service, since I'm also getting the LTE upgrade at that time, and there won't be any additional labor charge to have it done then. So the last thing I want to do is scratch or dent this brand new piece that I'm having installed to replace the slightly damaged piece I have now. Had I timed things better, I could have tried the mount on the piece that is going to be replaced, but that's not going to work, and I live too far from a service center to delay the LTE upgrade.

    If either of you (AndyM, slevit1md) think that there is even a small chance that this system could scratch or dent that metal trim, I'd probably just pass on this system, and make do with what I have now. So I'm really interested in your thoughts.

    Thanks very much!



    Edit: By the way, one of the other things I learned on my call is that "SAVETEN" is a discount code good for ten percent off at Proclip.
  • Sep 11, 2015
    slevit1md
    I use, and would highly recommend, the clip that mounts to the trim in the lower right corner of the display. I have used proclip on several vehicles and never had any concern that the way they clip in would in any way damage the trim. Each clip is made to fit perfectly on whatever vehicle and location it's designed for, so they fit snug with no need for excessive force to install. They're not really meant to be something that you'd install and remove every time you get out of the car, so I can't speak to what that would do. They're more of a semi-permanent install.

    My car is currently in for service but when it gets back (hopefully in the next day or so), I can take close up pictures of it.
  • Sep 11, 2015
    Andyw2100
    Thanks very much!
  • Sep 14, 2015
    Andyw2100
    I decided to try this in the vent on the right side of the 17 inch display:

    Amazon.com: Wyvern Clip Car/air Vent Holder Mount Portable Bracket for Smartphone [Iphone6 Plus/6/5s/5c/5/4s/4 Sony Xperia Samsung Galaxy Note GPS Etc] Holding Length From 50mm to 75mm [1.96 Accessories

    It came today, I put it together and set it up in the loaner that I now have. It might work OK, but it feels really cheaply made, and it definitely feels like it would move around some.

    So I decided to see if I might be able to find something with a similar design, but made with better quality materials. In my search, I stumbled upon cup holder mount phone mounts. I did not know such things existed. I have the center console, so one of those could work, and also might be able to be hidden away in the center console when not in use.

    I ordered this one:

    Amazon.com: G-Cord� Flexible Extra Long Arm Cup Holder Mount for iPhone and other Smartphones: Cell Phones Accessories

    Perhaps this will work for me.
  • Sep 14, 2015
    Pete90D
    Hey Andyw2100,

    I read earlier you would prefer holders that are less permanent than the slimline I have. Do you have a more specific concern about them? The slimline I have hasn't been hard to remove when needed and it seems like the 3M can be used a few times. I love how the ProClip mounts in the photos above, but it is so low in the car for me it doesn't seem like it would be as usable.

    I ask just because it has been a really great mount, puts it in a great location, I've never had a device fall off, and it gives you a lot of flexibility in devices that can attach. I even use it for my GoPro.
  • Sep 14, 2015
    Andyw2100
    My main concern is I just don't like the idea of "glueing" anything to the obeche matte. I understand that with dental floss the part that's attached there should come off easily, with no sign that it was ever there, but something about it just bothers me. I also would prefer to be able to "put away" whatever I'm using, so that there is literally no sign of it at all when it's not in use.

    If I were going to go the route of semi-permanently attaching something with adhesive, I could just mount a Tetrax fixed mount the same way, as I already have the Tetrax metal piece on my phone case, and I'd still have the flexibility of using the vent mount clips in other cars. (My wife still drives the Model S much more than I do.)

    I'm really optimistic the cup holder mount I just ordered may meet all my requirements. It looks like it should be able to hold the phone in about the position I'd like it, and it also looks like it should be pretty easy to stow away in the center console when it's not in use.

    I do generally like Pete's (Abstract Ocean's) products. I've bought a number of them, and will be purchasing his LED trunk/frunk/etc. light replacements when they are available too. This particular one, though, just isn't for me.

    I do appreciate your trying to enlighten me more, though, in case I could make it work. Thanks!
  • Sep 14, 2015
    Pete90D
    Thanks for clarifying Andy!

    I feel like I got really lucky finding a mount that gave me exactly what I needed right away. I too was initially concerned with the attachment part and had the concern go away, but I totally understand all of your reasons for looking for an alternative. If I happen to see something that looks interesting I'll let you know, but hopefully you find something by then and without having to try too many more.

    As I wrote that I found this.
    Goldenwide® 360-degree Rotating Universal Flexible Long Arms Mobile Phone Holder

    I just ordered one and I'll let you know what I think. I think it would hold well attached to the cubby, but also looks like it could attach to other places. What made me buy it is that in the picture below you can see a metal ball that would be usable if you rip the clip off the end. I'm thinking the disc for the slimline might attach to it (based on the size). Then I have even more options for my phone or tablet. I've always really disliked the holders that have clips or have bulk around the phone and I'm hoping this works with the slimline.

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  • Sep 14, 2015
    Andyw2100
    Thanks!

    I just added that to my Amazon "wishlist" which is what I use to keep track of things I might want to come back to and buy later. That definitely has potential. I could possibly attach it to a visor, as pictured, or perhaps to some part of the center console. (The cubby might be tough because of the center console.)

    I'm hoping the cup holder mount I ordered will do the trick, but if it doesn't, this is likely to be the next thing I try, depending, of course, on what you have to say about it.

    Also, when I get the cup holder one, I'll let you know if it looks like it would come apart in such a way that you could mount a slimline metal mount on the end of the snaky part, or if that end is pretty much fixed in place, or the wrong size, etc.

    Thanks again!
  • Sep 14, 2015
    Cyclone
    Andy, I hope the cup holder one works for you as seeing the visor one hooked up as in that photo in an Autopilot car would surely note that Skynet has arrived!
  • Sep 15, 2015
    Yung
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  • Sep 15, 2015
    Pete90D
    It just arrived and I think it has some potential. The slimline attachment does fit on it and stick, but the ball is a little small so I'm not sure yet what it will handle. The arm is really rigid and long, and while it will hold the phone I can see it wiggling around under acceleration.

    Mounting works from the visor and from the cubby. However with the cubby you do need to turn it downwards and rotate the arm up because of clearance with with the touchsceeen. It does put the device at a really good height. I'll take pictures and post them as soon as I can.
  • Sep 15, 2015
    Andyw2100
    Sounds good! I'll look forward to seeing the pictures, but no rush at all. Thanks!
  • Sep 15, 2015
    Rafik
    The two mounts I've been eyeing are these two...

    Neutron S - Love it for it's discreet looks - Picture - though I have concerns about it's strength - it's rated to support up to 1lb. (my iPhone 6 Plus w/ case come in at about 7 oz.) - strength seems promising based off this video, though they only tested it with the metal piece on the outside of the case. I doubt it will support up to 1 lb. with the disc inside the case.

    Car charger mount - Ideal solution without having to adhere anything to the dash - though the phone's location would end up lower than I'd like it - would rather not have to look down in the console space to get a glance at Waze, txts, notifications, etc.
  • Sep 15, 2015
    Andyw2100
    Just a note for anyone considering that car charger mount, who also has the center console...

    This may be obvious, but even if the long part of that mount detaches somehow, the adapter itself is too long to fit in the 12V adapter and still allow the console cover to close. We need a low profile 12V adapter to allow the door to close properly.
  • Sep 15, 2015
    Pete90D
    I take it back about the potential. I'll probably use it in the house somewhere, but in the car I think it might be bad.

    It will clip onto the cubby and the visor like I said. However, the cubby flexes a little, and with the visor it starts to fold down with the weight. Maybe putting it on the window side of the visor would work better, but I think with a phone it's just a lot of weight. The clip is also really strong so I'd worry about damaging the center console or the leather around the yacht flooring by clipping it to either.

    With the weight of the phone it also wobbles around a lot.
  • Sep 15, 2015
    Andyw2100
    OK, thanks.

    That is excellent information. Knowing that one really is not an option will make me think even harder before giving up on the cup holder option that I have coming. That one did ship today, by the way, but since it was not an Amazon Prime item, it's not clear exactly when I'll be receiving it. I'm guessing perhaps the end of the week.

    If for some reason that one doesn't work, thinking about what you just wrote, I might not rule yours out, as I might be able to clip that one to the cup holder inside the console. The one shortcoming you pointed out that would definitely still be an issue, though, would be the wobbling.

    Perhaps the goose neck of the cup holder mount is sturdier. I'll let you know what I think, and also give you my impressions on suitability for your use with respect to taking it apart, once I have it.
  • Sep 15, 2015
    Pete90D
    I think if you coil it there would be less wobble, but of course that changes the view of it. It might also have more wobble with the clip south of the phone, but clipped to the visor it might have less... cause of science and stuff.
  • Sep 15, 2015
    Andyw2100
    I'm beginning to drift pretty far afield.

    Fearing the goose neck may not be supportive enough, after reading some of the one-star reviews, I started looking at some cup mount options that had more rigid "arms" to hold the phone. (Of course this may present a problem since the cup holder I'm planning on using is in the center console, directly beneath the 17" display.)

    But the issue with some of the ones I looked at, and something that could be an issue with the one that is coming as well, is how tightly they will fit in the center console cup holder, since it's an "open" cup holder. So, I found this, which I may buy if I like one of the cup holder options, and think it would benefit from a more secure connection to the cup holder:

    Amazon.com : Brybelly Single Vivid Silver Aluminum Drop-In Cup Holder : Casino Equipment : Sports Outdoors

    aluminum cup.jpg

    Yes, I'm definitely stretching to find something that will work.

    Edit: I haven't measured anything in the center console related to the above. These kinds of things come in various diameters and depths. I would measure stuff before ordering one. If you are interested in the same, please DO NOT ASSUME THIS ONE IS THE RIGHT SIZE. (It's here just to demonstrate the concept.)
  • Sep 15, 2015
    Pete90D
  • Sep 15, 2015
    Andyw2100
    Interesting find.

    I agree it looks pricey for what it appears to be.

    That might work for me, if it could attach securely to the lower part of the vent, as the air flow wouldn't be blocked.

    I'm not sure how it's adjustable to fit dfferent sized phones, though. It looks as if the sides might stretch out a bit if the phone was wide enough to require that, but if not, as in the pictures with this pink one, I fear the phone would just float around:

    Amazon.com: Generic Mobile Phone Holder for Tesla Modle S (Grey): Cell Phones Accessories

    It is another possibility!
  • Sep 15, 2015
    lucy
    I am planning to get the ProClip screen mount, and transfer the magnetic IoAuto Pro-magnetic phone holder I am using in my current car.

    http://www.proclipusa.com/mobile-device-holders/magnetic-universal-phone-holders/product/ioauto-pro-magnetic-mount-red-710305.cmsv

    A sticky back metal disc is adhered to your device or device case, then the device can be easily positioned at multiple angles and easily adjusted on the magnetic holder. Additional discs can be purchased (or reverse engineered) when a new phone comes out. I have accidentally knocked my phone off of the holder, but it has never fallen off. Since the metal disc is on the back of the device, the exact size of the device does not matter, unlike cradle-type holders where the location of ports can be problematic.
  • Sep 18, 2015
    Andyw2100
    I received the cup holder goose-neck mount today. I have good news for both of us, Pete!

    I'm almost positive this mount would work for your needs. (More on that, and photos, in a moment.) I can't actually completely test it out for mine, as my car is at the service center, and the loaner I have does not have the center console, which is where I would use it. But I think it is likely to work well for me, assuming I can get the base to tighten into the cup holder (if not I can always purchase that insert I found upthread), and if I can adjust the goose-neck part and phone holder to where I want the phone, without blocking the 17" display.

    The goose-neck definitely seems stiff enough. Unless it loosens up with usage, I don't see a problem with that aspect of it at all. In fact I think if the goose neck is to be attached directly to the dash, you'll want to make adjustments to it using two hands, with one adjusting the goose-neck, and the other insulating the mount from the pressure, so that the mount doesn't come off the dash. The goose-neck is that stiff.

    For your purposes, Pete, the ball end easily disconnects from the mount. And it is even flattened a bit, so you would have no problem at all gluing one of the slimline mounts to it. (See pictures below.) Also, if you wanted to use only the goose-neck part, the part the attaches to the base detaches with the removal of a single screw. It is flat on the end, so also should easily accommodate the slimline mount components.

    Just let me know if you'd like any other pictures. When I get my car back, I'll try it in the car, and will see about taking some pictures there too.



    CH - Attached.jpg
    The single screw that needs to be removed to release the goose-neck from the base.


    CH - Goose neck.jpg
    Goose-neck, free!

    CH - End.jpg
    Base end.


    CH - Flat end.jpg
    Base end, from the end.

    CH - Ball End 1.jpg
    Ball end.

    CH - Ball End 2.jpg
    Ball end, closer. (It's not emitting light--just reflecting it.)

    CH -Ball End 3.jpg
    Ball end. I think these last two images show the flattened part of the ball end pretty well.
  • Sep 18, 2015
    Pete90D
    Thanks for the photos and overview Andy! I look forward to hearing how it works out for you
  • Sep 19, 2015
    supratachophobia
    Scosche magnet mount.
  • Dec 18, 2015
    Andyw2100
    So in the months since I've last posted, I've tried many, MANY different mounts. I have finally come up with a system that I am extremely happy with, so I wanted to share.

    Anyone potentially interested in the following should know that while it is not inexpensive, compared to everything else I've tried it is far and away superior. The stability and flexibility offered is so far beyond everything else I tried, I think it is definitely worth the money.

    OK. Enough preamble. Here are a couple of pictures.

    One for perspective:
    Ram Mount Perspective.jpg

    And one up close:
    Ram Mount Close.jpg


    The basic system is a Ram mount system, available for about $48 on Amazon. To the basic system I added some pretty obvious extension pieces--the long double socket arm for about $18 and the Ram double 1-inch ball adapter for about $13.

    But what you are seeing as the phone holder is not the typical Ram X-mount holder. When I first tried the Ram mount, and saw how stable it was, and realized I could get the phone in a position I liked, without blocking my view, blocking the vents, etc., I knew this was the mount for me. But I did not love the X-mount, and the fact that there really was no way to get the phone in and out of that with one hand.

    More than one of the mounts I had experimented with had phone platforms like the one you see pictured. I checked with Ram, and learned that not only did they not make anything like that, but they had no plans to. So I started to think about how I could fit one of the platforms from one of the other mounts to the Ram mount.

    I still had the G-cord cup holder snake-arm mount discussed up thread. I thought the "ball" on the end of the snake might just screw out from the snake, and then I might be able to find a way to screw it in to the Ram mount somehow. But I could not disconnect that ball from the snake. So I measured it, and discovered that it was 11/16" in diameter. The G-cord mount now costs $20 on Amazon.

    I then found this on Amazon:
    Ram quarter inch ball.jpg

    It's a Ram 1-inch ball with 1/4 inch 20 male threaded post for cameras and cost $7.50.

    So all that was left to do was to find an 11/16" ball with a 1/4" 20 screw thread. It turns out that was easier said than done, but I wound up finding one at McMaster-Carr. It was under $3, but with shipping about $9.

    So the total cost of this "custom" system would be about $115, and you'd have some parts left over.

    All the URLs are below if anyone is interested in replicating this. One advantage of the Ram system is that all sorts of accessories are available for it, so you can use it for other things in the future, or at times when you're not using it as the phone mount. For example, they make a GoPro ball mount that just pops in on one end.

    As for power, I don't usually need to charge my phone in the car, but if I do, I can either run the cable across my lap, or just sit the phone in the center console. It's not ideal, but it's a trade off I'm very happy to make, in light of everything else.

    Feel free to ask me any questions.

    It took me a long time, but I've finally found a mounting system that I'm really happy with.

    Ram Mount System - Amazon.com: Ram Mount Twist Lock Suction Cup Mount with Universal X-Grip Cell Phone Holder, Black: Car Electronics
    Ram long double socket arm - Amazon.com: Ram Mount Long Double Socket Arm for 1-Inch Ball Bases: Car Electronics
    Ram double 1-inch ball adapter - Amazon.com: Ram Mount Double 1-Inch Ball Adapter: GPS Navigation
    G-cord extra long arm cupholder mount - Amazon.com: G-Cord® Flexible Extra Long Arm Cup Holder Mount for iPhone and other Smartphones: Cell Phones Accessories
    Ram 1-inch ball with 1/4 inch 20 male threaded post for cameras - Amazon.com: Ram Mount 1-Inch Ball with 1/4-Inch 20 Male Threaded Post for Cameras: GPS Navigation
    Red Phenolic ball knob - 1/4" 20 thread, 11/16" diameter - McMaster-Carr
  • Dec 18, 2015
    f-stop
    I have a Kenu Airframe which fits on the dash vent. Small, unobtrusive and quick to mount/unmount, works with any phone case and no need to permanently attach anything.
    I posted a couple photos in another thread here
  • Dec 20, 2015
    slevit1md
    Still think pro clip is the best solution out there. Have yet to find a suction mount that doesn't need to be re-applied frequently.
  • Dec 20, 2015
    Cyclone
    I have NOT needed to reapply mine even once in the months I've had it and I've bumped into it multiple times when cleaning the car.

  • Dec 20, 2015
    Andyw2100
    I was seriously considering trying one of the ProClip mounts. But other than suction cup mounts (which I was not yet exploring at the time), the only options were the vent mount, which would block the flow of air from the vent, and the mount below the 17" display, which was in a position I really didn't find appealing.

    As for the Ram suction cup mount sticking to the windshield, I've been using it for about six weeks now, and it shows no signs whatsoever of coming off. Granted, the weather has not yet gotten as cold as it is going to, but all the reviews I've read indicate that this is not something I need to be concerned about. If that changes, I will certainly come back and post an update.
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