Thứ Năm, 2 tháng 2, 2017

Steering Column Display in Model 3 part 1

  • Aug 22, 2016
    kaess
    With all of the ideas going around about the Model 3 cockpit (e.g. heads-up display, etc.), I think there is a case to be made for the Model 3 having a driver display integrated into the steering column.

    1) In the Model 3 design sketches, the steering column is featured prominently as separate from the dashboard. Without the steering column, the dashboard would be symmetrical for both the driver and passenger. A symmetrical dashboard would improve the efficiency of manufacturing by having common components between Left-Hand-Drive and Right-Hand-Drive models. The integrated steering column/display/steering wheel package could be interchanged between the left and right side on the same dashboard component during manufacturing.

    Additionally, I think the open-top steering wheel in the design sketch alludes to a display placed behind the steering wheel. That being said, I do not think the production steering wheel needs to be open-top style.

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    2) The Porsche Mission E concept interior has a display integrated into the steering column, in line with what I envision for the Model 3. Tesla's hire of the interior designer for this concept, Felix Godard, was reported (Tesla hires the interior designer of Porsche�s all-electric Mission E) soon after the Model 3 reveal.

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    3) Tesla's chief designer, Franz von Holzhausen, was the head of design for Mazda North America from February 2005 - July 2008. In January 2007, Mazda revealed the Mazda Ryuga concept. Its cockpit featured dashboard gauges built into the steering column in an otherwise symmetrical interior cabin.

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  • Aug 22, 2016
    JeffK
    hmmm why do concept cars never seem to have airbags...

    None of that data displayed is necessary and not already accomplished by the center panel....

    A HUD on the other hand could be used with augmented reality to overlay autopilot information onto the windshield. Thus eliminating confusion as to what its next move might be.
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  • Aug 22, 2016
    BluestarE3
    They're concept cars, so no need to worry about practical things like driver interface, passenger comfort, visibility, or airbags. :)
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  • Aug 23, 2016
    22522
    Maybe analog like speedometer on that airbag cover and backup instruments on the back of the sun visor?
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  • Aug 23, 2016
    andrerodpt
    I don't think it would be necessary a big change (if any) in the Mission E steering wheel to accommodate an airbag.
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  • Aug 23, 2016
    jkk_
    Only one of those that looks even remotely good and that is the Porsche concept. And even that has huge amounts of wasted screen space.
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  • Aug 23, 2016
    McHoffa
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  • Aug 23, 2016
    Model 3
    Interesting. Autopilot guides you to ram into the car that is passing you? ;)
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  • Aug 23, 2016
    Model 3
    There is a lot of information to display there that is necessary, some even mandatory.
    Yes, on the prototypes displayed at the unveiling all of this information was moved to the center panel. To me this looks more like an interim solution awaiting the final interior solution. That was the first thought I got when a saw it at the unveiling, and I still think so.
    Yes, a HUD display may do, especially the autopilot stuff. But who said it had to be one or the other? The may both have a small display on the steering column and the AP on the HUD and the rest on the center console. To me that looks like a nice solution. And no - I do not talk about any exact copy of any of the examples shown in this thread.
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  • Aug 23, 2016
    dsvick
    My biggest problems with a steering wheel display is that firstly it is too small to convey all the info you need, so if there is going to be another display of some sort anyway why not just put it all there to begin with.
    Also, the change in focus from the road to the steering wheel is much greater than the from the road to the dash or to the center console. The difference in focus between the sterring wheel and a hud would be even greater. The only people not affected by this would be people wearing bifocals.
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  • Aug 23, 2016
    Garlan Garner
    I'm not sure who Tesla feels its M3 customer base is....but I can't imagine a 70 year old being attracted to any of these concepts. Let alone some 60 year olds.
    Unless there are "versions" of the M3 from "regular" to "super space like" I can't imagine these concepts being the only option. The M3 is intended to be a mass produced car. If they mass produce spaceship cars, then ......
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  • Aug 23, 2016
    andrerodpt
    Have you seen the huge 17'' tablet on the Model S and X?
    And the full led instrument cluster?

    Senior people like new stuff too...
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  • Aug 23, 2016
    Garlan Garner
    Ok Ok....let me say this... I didn't think I would have to, however I see that I do...... Senior people don't like new things or changes to the norm nearly as much as youth do. I also didn't think I would have to say this either.... but here it goes "I'm not talking about ALL seniors.".


    That's why they buy buicks more than any other age groups on the planet. Buicks always produce a "simple" version car without a lot of buttons and touchscreen-swipe type options. They also have a pocket for flip phones.
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  • Aug 23, 2016
    andrerodpt
    Just to add to the conversation, this is the instrument cluster on my daily drive (Peugeot 208). You guys in US don't get this car (or brand).

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    Small oval steering rim.

    Guess what? It works just fine. You can see all information on the dash from above the steering wheel.
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  • Aug 23, 2016
    Garlan Garner
    I don't understand your post. Yes, the US car buyers may not have the option to buy this car...however the question I wonder about is......Is that a problem? I don't understand the point you are making.
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  • Aug 23, 2016
    andrerodpt
    I don't think Tesla is aiming for that specific market. And yet, with great usability, all would benefit with innovation. A LCD instrument cluster would inform the driver a lot better than a "analogic" one.
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  • Aug 23, 2016
    kaess
    The BMW i3 cockpit is a current production vehicle that includes a steering column display as a dashboard.

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  • Aug 23, 2016
    Garlan Garner
    ARrrrggghhh.. Why are you guys always using Dictionary words? analogic isn't even in the dictionary.

    I think I understand what you are saying....
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  • Aug 23, 2016
    andrerodpt
    Man... come on... I'm not attacking anyone. Especially you guys in US.
    I'm just trying to show you another take on a conventional dashboard that gets great sales in Europe and you might not know about. If you ask me I don't know how a Ford Taurus dashboard looks like, since it's a car that is not sold here.
    Please don't get offended by my posts since there was none. And sorry if my written english is not getting the message through.
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  • Aug 23, 2016
    Garlan Garner
    That's far greater than a HUD. There would never be a stupid glare on that display AND.... if none of you heard me...I said. AND its crisp and clear.
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  • Aug 23, 2016
    Model 3
    In my current car, when I look at the dash when I drive, I look at it thou the steering wheel. So no change of focus here.

    Different info has different priorities. Some info is so important that it is shown where you easily can see it and grab your attention, and not obscure the view out of the windshield (HUD). This information belong on the dash - or a steering wheel mounted dash-display. Some information is best shown on the windshield (HUD) like augmented reality / AP. Some information is none-essential and may be shown anywhere where the driver can see (center display).


    And no, I do not argument that it should be separated on three different locations, but I say that it is an possibility that it do not have to be one or the other. What I prefer is a dash like in the Model S/X - or maybe an steering wheel dash as proposed in this thread, and maybe a HUD for AP. The center console should do just what it does today in model S/X. But I'm open to alternatives, but I will have to do some very though thinking if it ends up with an identical system to what was shown at the unveiling #1.
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  • Aug 23, 2016
    el crucero
    :eek: o_O :mad: them are fighting words you young whippersnapper! Wait til you are 70 and we'll see what you are "attracted to" - Buicks, the female residents at your assisted living home, and Metamucil I'll wager! This 70+ year old is "attracted to any of these concepts" - futuristic cars, women in Olympic water polo swimming suits, and fine scotch. :p
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  • Aug 23, 2016
    dsvick
    You're still looking at the dash though, not the steering wheel itself. Try looking at the center of the steering wheel for a couple of seconds, you'll see that there is more of change there than just about anywhere else. Depending on where they have the steering wheel positioned sme people may have to physically move their head to be able to see something there, whereas with the dash or a hud all they would have to do is move their eyes.
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  • Aug 23, 2016
    ecarfan
    I do not see a significant difference between the Mission E concept car drivers display (which requires the dashboard to curve around it and therefore differsfrom the passenger side) and the Model S or X drivers display. To me the Mission E dash is asymmetrical to accommodate the drivers display which is not part of the steering column.
    Thanks, understand that vehicle is not available in the US, but I do not see the drivers display in that Peugeot as being significantly different from many other cars. That drivers display is integrated into the dashboard and it contains digital copies of analog gauges which is a very common approach these days. Can you explain what is special or unique about it?
    Again, I would not call the small i3 drivers display screen a "steering column display". The i3 dashboard is asymmetrical: the drivers side is very different from the passenger side. The drivers display screen is in about the same position relative to the steering wheel that the Model S and X screen is.

    The Model 3 prototypes that have been shown publicly appear to have a remarkably symmetrical dashboard top surface and upper edge. The drivers side appears to have a space on the lower edge of the dashboard for the steering column. The only display screen we have seen so far is placed in the center of the dash, and the test drivers at the Model 3 reveal clearly stated that the center display would be in the production cars.

    Then later Elon tweeted about how the prototype steering wheel is not the production wheel, he wrote: "Wait until you see the real steering controls and system for the 3. It feels like a spaceship." And the speculation went wild.

    I love Elon's imagination and vision, but of course all the existing spacecraft that can carry humans into orbit are made in Russia and use technology that is many decades old (China's manned space program uses spacecraft based on the Russian Soyuz). Clearly he wasn't talking about anything that currently exists. He was envisioning a future spacecraft. One that he might have been thinking about is the upcoming Crew Dragon.

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    However that isn't very helpful for us to try to figure out what the Model 3 "steering controls" are going to be like.

    At this point we just don't know. But keep speculating...
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  • Aug 23, 2016
    andrerodpt
    Gladly.

    Although it's not futuristic in a sense we're talking about in this thread (analog instruments for instance), it's revolutionary in a mass market car, since the instrument cluster is seen from above the steering wheel and not through it. That requires a smaller (and slightly oval) steering wheel. Think it as a kinda of "poor man's HUD".

    Peugeot raised a lot of eyebrows with this design, but since it's unveil, it proved it worked quite well and it's getting this design on all it's model range.

    For a more "futuristic" approach using the same idea, this is the new Peugeot 3008 cockpit. And no, it's not a prototype.

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    And yes... I know it's a kinda of a digress from the original thread. It was presented just as food for though.
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  • Aug 23, 2016
    JeffK
    Is it supposed to look like it's from the '80s?
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  • Aug 23, 2016
    Topher
    When you are looking at the road, looking at the dash requires a change in focus (distance). If the display was on the steering wheel rather than behind, that would require a larger change in focus. Changes in focus can take up to 300 milliseconds (aka 26.4 feet at 60 MPH).

    Thank you kindly.
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  • Aug 23, 2016
    andrerodpt
    In the 80's, without power steering, using that small steering wheel would be a pain or just a great exercise.
    But I'm not sure a lot of 80's mass market cars that used that configuration...
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  • Aug 23, 2016
    JeffK
    My old 1989 Honda accord had power steering, power windows, etc. The steering wheel was fairly small... I'm just looking at your picture trying to figure out where the 8 track goes...
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  • Aug 23, 2016
    ecarfan
    Thanks, now I understand. I couldn't appreciate that from the first photos you posted. Now I get it. :)
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  • Aug 23, 2016
    andrerodpt
    Ok. Peugeot interiors: tiny steering wheels for all

    "A key part of the philosophy behind the i-Cockpit setup is that the raised instrument cluster places information more directly in the driver�s line of sight, making for reduced refocusing time between the road and the dials."

    This was discussed here. I just though it was a good idea presenting you a design you might now know it was mass marketed in Europe (228.000 cars sold in 2015). I now see it was a bad idea. Carry on, then.
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  • Aug 23, 2016
    Garlan Garner
    I already know what I'm going to be like when I'm 70. As a matter of fact I'm planning it.

    I plan on not doing ANYTHING. I plan on being retired - taking it easy - keeping things simple. Driving a Tesla as simple as a buick.
    Trust me.....I'm not criticizing 70 year olds at all - I envy them for many reasons.

    However - Right now I'm a Ludicrous man. I've got to at least get Ludicrous at least once because when I'm 70 I will probably drive my MS in valet mode 24/7.
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  • Aug 23, 2016
    Garlan Garner
    Yeah, and where do you store your 8 tracks in your car? You might have to remove all of the Betamax video tapes from the glove compartment and put them in there.
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  • Aug 23, 2016
    Garlan Garner
    No...its not a bad idea. Its just a tough crowd. Don't feel bad.
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  • Aug 23, 2016
    el crucero
    I don't need no stinkin' ludicrous mode,...I've got BIG HANDS already!

    My PCP says I have the body and mind of a 50 year old. He says that it is in my best interests, physically and psychologically, that I never grow up and he says that every year I wait for my T3, it will add twice that many years to my life! I can't wait to punch my T3 in valet mode and watch my family yelling and screaming, waving heir hands in the air and grabbing for the futuristic, fold out from the dash, steering wheel as I make my escape from Shady Pines Old Folks Home. ;)
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  • Aug 23, 2016
    JeffK
    My Prius has this, but I'd much rather have an augmented reality HUD.
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  • Aug 23, 2016
    el crucero
    Yes, I have this on my Prius too. The display is sharp and clear with no glare. I can adjust the brightness as well as the location of the display. I just wish it displayed more information. I hope my T3 is available with HUD.
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  • Aug 23, 2016
    dsvick
    Or longer if you have old tired eyes like I do. Which is why I mentioned it in the first place since I notice it takes me much longer to change my focus now than it used to, I assume model3 still has young, flexible eyes. o_O
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  • Aug 23, 2016
    Garlan Garner
    Now that sounds like a plan. Good luck on your escape.

    Hey....what is a T3?
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  • Aug 23, 2016
    Garlan Garner
    EVERYONE.... what in the world is a T3?
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  • Aug 23, 2016
    Jayc
    Here is as idea, I wonder whether the admins here can setup things such that if T3 appears in a post for it to be replaced by either M3 or TM3.
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  • Aug 23, 2016
    McHoffa
    Some people are saying T3 (Tesla 3) because M3 is already a car made by BMW.
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  • Aug 23, 2016
    McHoffa
    I told my wife my Model 3 will probably be my first and last pure fun car. After that, I just want my car to drive me around while I chill out.
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  • Aug 23, 2016
    Garlan Garner
    Now that makes Perfect sense. Thanks.
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  • Aug 23, 2016
    Garlan Garner
    Hey....just do what I'm going to do. After I fulfill my years of Ludicrous fun....I'm just going to put the car in valet mode and drive off into the sunset.

    How many people have seen the end of the movie "Cars"? In valet mode... I'll still have the motor for Ludicrous...(just in case.)
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  • Aug 23, 2016
    alseTrick
    I want a NORMAL steering wheel.

    Not some u-shaped piece of junk that will make long sharp turns difficult. Not some retracting-protracting piece of junk that will break down and make my car inoperable.

    A NORMAL STEERING WHEEL.

    Give me a HUD and incorporate the center display more seamlessly into the dash and THAT'S IT. DON'T SCREW AROUND, TESLA!
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  • Aug 23, 2016
    HookBill
    GG, I don't know how old YOU are but don't underestimate those of us in the 60-70 year old range. We may have a few more miles on us but the fire has not gone out. :)
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  • Aug 23, 2016
    dsvick
    Then they should also say TS and TX, or they could just say M3 like everyone else since there isn't much chance of confusion in the normal threads.
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  • Aug 23, 2016
    el crucero
    Tesla 3 not to be confused by M3 which is the model name for another brand. Are you keepin' up, keepin' up? The other Tesla models are TS and TX. It's h3ll being young, naive, and clueless! :D
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  • Aug 23, 2016
    dsvick
    Except that no one calls them Tesla 3, Tesla S, or Tesla X, it is always Model 3, Model S, and Model X.

    The closest you're going to come to T3, TS, or TX would be Tesla Model 3, Tesla Model S or Tesla Model X which, of course, would then be TM3, TMS, and TMX.
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  • Aug 23, 2016
    JeffK
    Don't forget the model made for the paparazzi the Tesla Model Z or "TMZ"
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  • Aug 23, 2016
    1208
    Let's stop confusing each other and call it the ME because it was going to be the E. We can write it in a sentence lower case as me to reduce typing time.
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  • Aug 23, 2016
    JeffK
    ME or EM backwards... the Elon Musk! It's a conspiracy I tell you. It's going to be the greatest car in the world!
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  • Aug 23, 2016
    Ardie
    All of these super-modern designs focus on the driver, and seem to forget that there are occupants that will want to tinker with the radio and the climate control. With the Model 3's super-tidy dashboard look, it seems that the passengers will not even be able to adjust the air vents.

    -- Ardie
    And let's not get started on the cup holders again.
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  • Aug 23, 2016
    McHoffa
    Like Windows me??
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  • Aug 23, 2016
    Model 3
    Aha, I see what has happened:
    This post - without any quote or referral to who you was addressing - was just after my response to JeffK discussing the steering wheel column display. So I thought this post was a response to me. I now see that you was taking about a display *on* the steering wheel, not behind it on the column.


    Your welcome :)
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  • Aug 23, 2016
    Kurt Foster
    From what I have gathered about Tesla, is that they are trying to make the car as "digitized" as possible to increase the futuristic feel and make it seem like a timeless car. With that said, the air vents will go across the entire dashboard (I believe Elon made a tweet that said this) in which the vents will probably be controlled with the touch screen.

    The options when you digitize things get really awesome. If the air vents go across the entire width of the cabin, I wouldn't be surprised to see it broken up in multiple sections, like 4 or maybe 6 (3 for each front passenger). And I know this sounds kind of crazy, but do you know how Tesla in the model s has the ability to focus volume on a certain part of the car using controls of the 13 or so speakers placed throughout the cabin? Well that doesn't seem impossible to do that with air vents. Anyways, we will just have to see when part 2 comes along.
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  • Aug 23, 2016
    alseTrick
    Well the Model 3 has real cupholders. And the center display is more easily accessible to the passenger than in the S or X. So I'm not sure what your complaints are with either of those.

    I do have concerns about the A/C vents. But if air blows out along the entire length of that black/white crevice then it might not be bad at all. But that's an "if", obvi.
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  • Aug 23, 2016
    S'toon
    How come I hate the interior of every BMW I've seen, at least in this century?
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  • Aug 23, 2016
    el crucero
    This "no one" does!

    First, I'm vilified for being too old to enjoy a T3, then I am being accused of being a "no one". I'm starting to feel like the Rodney Dangerfield of the TMC T3 forum. I don't get no respect. :(
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  • Aug 23, 2016
    Jersey Shore Tom
    "Rant Mode on"

    Why would you join a forum that has been around for years and try to to change the acronyms. T3 was an action movie starring Arnold. If you are worried about confusion between a Tesla and a BMW, take the time for the extra keystrokes and call the Tesla the Model 3. Unless you want to treat Eagles PDX as your role model and I will ignore you as well.

    "Rant Mode Off"
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  • Aug 23, 2016
    stopcrazypp
    I don't see how anyone can be confused that the "M3" refers to a BMW when in context of this forum and especially the Model 3 subforum. If people want to clarify that abbreviation, they can call it the TM3. I have never seen anyone abbreviate the Model S as the "TM" or the Model X as the "TX", so I don't understand where the T3 comes from.

    It's not addressed to you in particular, but rather I suspect a lot of the pushback against the "T3" abbreviation is because of a specific member EaglePDX who insists on using that abbreviation and is on the ignore list of a lot of people for his general style of posting.
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  • Aug 24, 2016
    jkk_
    They may want to but doesn't mean that they should. Driver is in control not the passengers.
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  • Aug 24, 2016
    dsvick
    I think we'll be ok, the purpose of the center touchscreen standing out from the dash on the M3 is so that it is more accesbile to the passenger as well as the driver. The biggest complaint I'll get will be from my son if there no remote for him to control the radio from the backseat.
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  • Aug 24, 2016
    JeffK
    An ipod is cheaper than a Tesla ;)

    When I'm driving a car, I control the radio and all passengers listen to what I want to listen to.. or they can walk! haha.
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  • Aug 24, 2016
    el crucero
    This is the problem with many of today's youth, whether having the $1000 deposit for a T3 or not, - disrespectful, petulant, arrogant, and mannerless to the elderly. But then again this guy alludes that he is part of the "Jersey Shore" crowd where Chris Christy is the role model. Yes, please put me on "ignore", you will make us both happy.
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  • Aug 24, 2016
    Model 3
    Makes me wonder what is the most disrespectful, arrogant and mannerless? To insist on calling something with a name "no one" else is using, or to calling out an incorrect/unusual use of an abbreviation?
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  • Aug 24, 2016
    ecarfan
    Tesla vehicle model names are obviously designated by Tesla: Roadster, Model S, Model X, Model 3 (which is actually a symbol, not a number character).

    If you want to clearly communicate with someone, using those names is the best ways.

    Some people use alternative designations. When they do so, their is a chance that the person(s) they are communicating with may be confused by their alternative term. One can see evidence of that in this thread.

    Both "T3" and "M3" have pre-existing meanings unrelated to the Tesla Model 3. "T3" is used in a completely different context. "M3" has been used in an automotive context for many years now.

    There is no rational reason to cause such confusion. Use the designations used by Tesla and everyone will understand. If you insist on using something different and then complain when some people question your term, you're not making sense.
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  • Aug 24, 2016
    ModelNforNerd

    The best part about having served in the military, but not enough to retire from it....and then getting a job as a civil servant, is that my military time counts towards retirement.

    I'll be done at 57, with pension and access to my 401K.

    Still young enough to get something Ludicrous!!!! (and have all day to enjoy driving it)
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  • Aug 24, 2016
    N5329K
    I say again: it's going to be a looooong two years.
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  • Aug 24, 2016
    eisbock
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  • Aug 24, 2016
    Jersey Shore Tom
    I admit to being greatly amused. At 57 it has been a while since people that know me have referred to me as part of "today's youth" While I very much enjoy living at the Jersey Shore, I can think of few nice things to say about our Governor except that he will be ex-Governor in January 2017.

    As for being disrespectful, petulant, arrogant, and mannerless to the elderly I will leave it to the interwebs to judge. Perhaps I should set up a poll.
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  • Aug 28, 2016
    drj3
    This Abbr. discussion reminds me of the good old days when I went to the drive-in in my M3 to see T3. Can't wait for 18 so I can try the T3 vs M3 and see what wins out. Do you think a HUD would distract from the film at a drive in? Maybe they could add a feature so it could display sub-titles for 70 year olds who are hard of hearing - just to compete with Buick. ;)
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  • Aug 30, 2016
    MissAutobahn
    Elon mentioned something like " feels like a spaceship", so it might be something overwhelming, when you start your spaceship.
    Sorry for the bad photoshop work, but what if we get something like this and the dashboard we saw is already the finished version ( they just didn't open it...) ???:rolleyes:
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  • Aug 30, 2016
    2018 Steve
    What a great system. I would have no problem with your idea.
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  • Aug 30, 2016
    JeffK
    Unless it breaks... that would suck. Each additional unnecessary moving part scares me. I want it to last forever!
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  • Aug 30, 2016
    Model 3
    Interesting Idea :) But as @JeffK I'm a bit worried about things that has to move, and it would remove some of the benefits with the low "dashboard" that Elon touted at the unveiling. But why raise it? It could be some instruments and lights in that "line" as it is. And that was my first thought before anyone mentioned HUD.
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  • Aug 30, 2016
    S3XY
    It's M?. End of story. Mic drop.
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  • Aug 31, 2016
    Knobi
    Great work. :) Very cool.
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  • Aug 31, 2016
    arjay
    Even with the extra moving parts I like it!
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  • Aug 31, 2016
    BluestarE3
    Nice animation and interesting concept; though, as others have mentioned, not practical for a $35K car.

    How long before this gets picked up, propogated and reported by the "media" outlets and blogs as a leaked photo of the Model 3's interior? :)
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  • Aug 31, 2016
    Gangus
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    Awesome work, I was thinking that the dash might do something like this. The more I look at this dash set up. It makes me think that it flips up or something. That little peice that is connecting to the top part of the dash on the left corner looks like it does something. Also the front top part of the dash is a whole seperate peice. It looks like it might move somehow.
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  • Aug 31, 2016
    Gangus
    Maybe thats why they won't let a
    Maybe thats why they don't want anybody to mess with the interior too much. So they don't risk someone figuring something like this out. Hmmmmmm. I like this better than alot of the other ideas floating around the net.
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  • Sep 1, 2016
    MissAutobahn
    I am with you, let it be simple, with productionparts as little as possible.
    As I saw most of the new ideas from other overloaded steering systems or dashes, I felt a bit stressed.
    "Make it simple, make it clear. People will accept and love it" has always been my device.
    The look of a rising up dashboard would stay calm ( I also love the dash in the X and S for that calm design) and in the wide line they also could fit 2 screens left and right end replacing the side mirrors, also the air vents. On the back side would be place enough for cameras, hud projectors, speaker etc... and closing the dash automatically by leaving your car more than 3 minutes also means no more dusty air vents with a lot of "schmutz" after 3-4 years.
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  • Sep 1, 2016
    MissAutobahn
    I don't mind if the media brings out any news concerning Tesla. Who said "any publicity is good publicity for name recognition".
    And every day, they write about Tesla, somewhere on earth ist waking up a human, thinking of buying a Tesla :)
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  • Sep 1, 2016
    Model 3
    I can easily buy that argument :) So, how to make it auto-clean the rest of the cockpit? ;)
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  • Sep 1, 2016
    cronosx
    It's electrostatic charged so if dust try to deposit on it in reallity will slide down and deposit in the carpet, where for some time it's ok, and of course it's tratted agains oil.
    WARNING: it will not keep clean agains fingerprint and it can make your car uncomfortable if he try to sleep on it
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  • Sep 1, 2016
    Garlan Garner
    Can someone please explain to me the propose of the dislike button? What in the world does it mean?
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  • Sep 2, 2016
    MissAutobahn
    Some people like, others dislike, some do, others don't, many don't mind like me.
    There are people on earth that love bleu bicycles , others red cars.
    The crucial thing is, that there are to many people that do not accept other opinions.
    For those, they made the dislike button.
    I just pushed it twice because of political incorrectness.

    If some users would push their thumbs down to what I photoshopped, I wouldn't be offended at all. I let them their preferences :)
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  • Sep 2, 2016
    Garlan Garner
    Thanks. That makes perfect sense.
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