Feb 20, 2015
Puff Was informed by the service center that the P85D's being delivered with 21's are getting the conti 245/35/21 all around as standard. Staggered is a thing of the past. Anyone else get theirs recently with this?�
Feb 20, 2015
dsm363 That's probably a good thing. Can finally rotate tires and save a little money that way on expensive tires.�
Feb 20, 2015
brianman Staggered was in the "con" column for the P85D for me. I'm glad Tesla has decided they aren't necessary -- because that's much better than me just not using them.�
Feb 20, 2015
jpet I wouldn't be surprised this is just another step towards reducing the number of possible parts / combinations and has less to do with the advantage / disadvantage of having larger rear tires for grip.�
Feb 21, 2015
Niclas So, they replaced Michelins pilots with cheaper contis now?�
Feb 21, 2015
bollar The biggest advantage of the Contis is that they're extremely quiet. It's an amazing improvement.�
Mar 3, 2015
jsaccio My P85D arrived today and it does NOT have staggered tires. The rears and the fronts are now 245/35/21 Continental ContiSportContact 5. These cost more than the Michelins on Tire Rack.�
Mar 3, 2015
jerry33 Right. The "S" have a foam liner on the inside to reduce noise. This liner has to be installed after the vulcanization is done, so it's an extra step--hence more expensive.�
Mar 4, 2015
Dennis87 Any more updates on what wheel people get on the P85D?
Really hope my car is delivered with staggered wheels and PS2. The staggered setup and 265 tires in the rear was the reason i did choose the 21 wheel package.�
Mar 4, 2015
ArtInCT The Continental ContiSportContact 5 Silent tire is about a $405+ tire per in the USA retail, no delivery or taxes in that price.
Note that there are two versions of that tire, the more expensive is the Silent version, the other version is not the silent version and is somewhat less expensive.�
Mar 4, 2015
paul7200 P85D tire size no longer staggered
My p85d entered production beginning of February and thankfully arrived with the staggered setup. I also ordered the 21 winter set which is not staggered, and I think the offset looks terrible. I much prefer the look of the wider tires on the rear.�
Mar 4, 2015
dennis The ContiSportContact 245/35 has a tread width of 8.3". The Pilot Sport 2 265/35 has a tread width of 9.7". Which one would you prefer on your 691 HP 5000 lb. sedan?�
Mar 5, 2015
jerry33 1. Given the same pressure, the contact area will be the same on both tires.
2. On anything other than dry pavement, the narrower tire will have superior performance.�
Mar 7, 2015
Hybris PS2 is the king on wet so I dont think so...�
Mar 7, 2015
jerry33 A PS2 19" tire would be better in wet than a PS2 21" tire. If the tire isn't the same, then all bets are off. (And sometimes even the same model of tire isn't the same in different sizes.) My bad for not putting "all things being equal" in the previous post.�
Mar 7, 2015
pan I'm a new member and ordered a model S in February. What was the wheel size when staggered wheels were offered? Thanks in advance.�
Mar 7, 2015
NOLA_Mike 
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Mar 8, 2015
dennis While the Contis are definitely quieter, the handling performance sucks compared to the PS2s.�
Mar 8, 2015
Hybris Yepp. All proper sportscars have PS2 or SS. Not continental... I asked when ordering and they said 265 and PS2. If they deliver on square and continental I will be upset...�
Mar 11, 2015
sillydriver I finally picked up my P85D the other day (had recycled the order from last year because I wanted it delivered with the new seats). Was surprised when I looked at the 21" tires this morning and saw four identical Conti's. A search on "not staggered" brought me here. I suppose with the P85D's weight more evenly biased thanks to its front motor, it gives Tesla an excuse not to stagger. When these tires wear out I am inclined to get Pilot SuperSports. I have them on another car and love the performance.�
Mar 11, 2015
Johan Has there ever been another reason than estethics for staggered wheels? If it had to do with cornering I'd think you would want the wider wheel (i.e. the wheel where the sidewall v.s. width ratio is as low as possible thus giving an even firmer sidewall) on the front, not the back, since you're steering a lot more with the front wheels right? Also please don't say "wider tires have more contact patch and thus better grip" since it's just not true (see jerry33's post above).�
Mar 11, 2015
bxr140 Except that, at least when proper fitment logic is applied within practical limits, wider tires often DO provide more 'grip'. It's true that they don't inherently have more or less static contact patch, and certainly there are plenty of situations where narrower is better...but in general, if you're looking for more dry weather, performance type handling and youve exceeded the limits of your current tires, wider will be better.
One of the most basic points is that the wider tire often allows for lower tire pressure, which increase the contact patch and tire compliance, but there are also other benefits like more ideal dynamic characteristics of the contact patch, smaller slip angles, and better thermal management.�
Mar 12, 2015
jerry33 As long as you're talking cornering and not braking or acceleration. Also driving over an expansion joint with a tire that has a short, narrow contact patch isn't a whole lot of fun as the tire tends to slip on the steel. It's a whole different story if you're talking track day, but my assumption is that most folks are talking about driving on ordinary roads.
Not the 35% 21" tires found on the Model S. This works just find on large aspect ratio tires for F! and for SUVs, but doing this in a 35% 21" tire is only going to get you wheel and tire damage.
Provided there is no rain, potholes, or other "surprises". But in a lot of cases, it isn't going to matter because tread compound and belt construction often trump width.
Bear in mind that the perfect set up for track use is generally not what you want for everyday driving. My opinion is that the setup should be able deal with the inclement conditions you'd typically find (rain, potholes, extended high speed driving, road hazards, etc.). I've seen far too many people spend far too much money setting up their car to give the absolute best performance only to ditch the car within a year because it's almost undriveable in normal use. Granted that none of the tires Tesla supplies are that extreme, but there's no question that you pay a lot for the 21" setup (staggered or not) and don't get that much more for the extra expense.�
Mar 15, 2015
bxr140 Sure I am. Wider still is better (again, to a point).
Regarding the rest of your points, context of my post (and the arc being followed) was dry weather performance. Street or track.�
Mar 15, 2015
Madartist Another data point... My P85D was delivered last Friday with non-staggered 245/35/21 Continental ContiSportContact 5. I believe this is the new standard tire configuration on this model. Personally, I prefer quieter tires with better tread wear (hopefully) and rotation capability over the staggered setup. The previous Pilot Sport 2 tires on my P85+ were noisy and wore out quickly, even with conservative driving. I would be very interested to see how these Conti's will compare over time with the Michelin Pilot Super Sport in terms of performance/traction, tread wear, noise, and range/energy consumption.�
Mar 15, 2015
lolachampcar The PD uses the front wheels to pull the front of the car through corners. This likely had a huge impact on stability control and removed the need for stagger to pass federal stability control requirements.......
At least that is my guess.�
Mar 15, 2015
100thMonkey chiming in as a P85+ guy. the staggered tires were the source of tremendous headaches for both Tesla and owners. the wider back tires and softer rubber resulted in a veritable cheese grater, with folks replacing tires as often as every 3K miles. perhaps the headache just wasn't worth it for Tesla. oh and not to mention the environmental impact of using up a barrel of oil to make each tire... you come darn close to consuming as much petroleum in tires as a gas car consumes in fuel. after reading up on all the complaints, I immediately switched to non-staggered tires and 19,000 miles later, still haven't had to replace them!�
Mar 15, 2015
dennis I drive "enthusiastically". On my P85+ I got 9000 miles from my first set of PS2 rear tires. The fronts still had tread at 15,000 miles when I sold it to buy a P85D. I put a few hundred miles on the 245 square Conti setup and was less than impressed with the handling performance. So I mounted staggered PS2's on 21x9 aftermarket rims and the handling is much better. Most likely it has more to do with tread compound than rear tire size but I'm happy with how the new setup performs and looks.�
Mar 15, 2015
Fezzik so you got to compare them both. Can you go in a little more details on your pros and cons of each?�
Mar 15, 2015
dennis Neither set was worn in so it wasn't a full test. However there is a certain freeway off-ramp that I have taken a least once a day for the past 35 years that provides a quick handling benchmark. The Conti's are unable to hold the same cornering speed as the PS2's - they squeal and lose traction several mph lower than the Michelins. This was in dry weather and temps in the 70s, so no comparisons done for other conditions. Although this weather appears to be the new normal for winter with the severe drought in California.
The Conti's are quite a but quieter than the PS2's, and here's why - approximately 1/2" of foam all the way around the inner circumference of the tire!
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Mar 17, 2015
3s-a-charm +1
I went and checked my tires... the winter set that was on the car has a square setup on 21" wheels and the summer set on 21" wheels came as staggered with Michelin Pilot Sport tires. I didn't see where they say "PS2" - just said Pilot Sport from what I could see.
I also feel the staggered setup is nice for the esthetics of it primarily.�
Mar 17, 2015
dennis If you look very carefully below the "t" in the word "Sport" there should be a tiny rectangle with the letters "PS2". The only reason I know is because earlier PS2's had a bigger rectangle under the "rt" in Sport.�
Mar 18, 2015
Dennis87 Some good info on why wider tires have more grip:
Tyres - Why is wide good? - PistonHeads
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Mar 18, 2015
KOL2000
I would have expected more OUTRAGE from the group. One of the best parts of the P+ for me was the wide rear tires! They look great and fill in the enormous wheel well space.
If I was going to trade my P+ for a PD today I'd demand the staggered setup. This kind of quiet option removal is a little unnerving but I guess we are all spoiled brats considering what ICE crap most people drive.�
Mar 18, 2015
Dennis87 My P85D is delivered next week. If my car is delivered without the staggered setup I will demand to get them, because when i ordered the car I did get information that the 21" package was the same as P85+ staggered setup. And all of the P85D cars delivered to now in norway has staggered setup.
The car does not look good with 245 tires in the rear. The 265 tires are ok. Also the Conti tires sucks compared to PS2.�
Mar 18, 2015
dennis It is not just because of the size. The 245 Continental has a tread width of 8.3". The 245 PS2 has a tread width of 9.5". The 265 PS2 only adds .2" (to 9.7"). The better look has much more to do with the tire type than the extra 20mm in section width.
One tire option that has never been suggested here AFAIK would be a square setup of 245/35/21" PS2's on the stock 8.5" rims (or square aftermarket rims such as 21 x 9s). This would give you all of the look and grip advantages of the PS2 AND you can rotate the tires. You still have the downside of more noise and a worse treadwear rating vs. the Continental, but for many of us the better handling would be worth it.
And while you might consider the 245/35/21 Pilot Super Sports because of their superior traction and treadwear over the PS2's, in that size their tread width is 8.7", almost 1" less than the comparable PS2. They do make a Porsche variant in 255/40/20 that lolachampcar is running on aftermarket rims that has a tread width of 10".�
Mar 18, 2015
3s-a-charm I agree and for me it's honestly 99.9% about the looks of the wider rear tire. My X5 has the M-sport package and the rear 20" tires look like they are as wide as a Corvette's tires. In fact, they are 315/35 R20 tires which look MASSIVE in my garage. I'm just praying the weather warms up so I can to my wheel swap and try the PS2s!�
Mar 18, 2015
Dennis87 The rear rims is also 9.0 inch, instead of 8.5. That does also help to make it look wider
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Mar 18, 2015
Sigma4Life My P85D was delivered last week and I can confirm it has the staggered setup with 245 on front and 265 on the back. I too believe the staggered setup looks much better so I'm happy it arrived that way.�
Mar 18, 2015
NielsChr I hope to get contiSports with the lower noise level - that s most important to me.�
Mar 18, 2015
BIGDJE could not agree more happy I got the 265 mine was jan build
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Mar 18, 2015
NOLA_Mike I suspect the only reason some P85Ds are now being delivered with the square setup (same size tires front and back) is as simple as Tesla is having trouble sourcing the 265 size rear tires from Michelin at the moment.
And if my suspicion is correct, I also suspect as soon as that supply constraint clears up that Tesla will resume shipping the halo car with staggered wheel sizes at some point in the future.
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Apr 8, 2015
Kilowatt I got the square setup with Contis on my P85D but have been promised a cost free replacement for the staggered + ps2 setup�
Apr 23, 2015
Gekko Wider rear tires is not the only difference with a staggered setup. Rear rims are 9", compared to a non staggered setup that has 8,5" all around�
Apr 23, 2015
Kilowatt I know, they replaced rear rims and all tires.�
Apr 23, 2015
Kilowatt Also, the ps2's are slightly wider than the Contis on the front 245's which protects the rim a little better.�
May 1, 2015
Gekko Have you replaced the contis with the ps2 and staggered setup yet?
If so, do you notice any difference in noice level and performance?�
May 2, 2015
Kilowatt Yes, I've had them replaced and did notice a slightly more alert response and also a little more noise. Some due to wider rear tires of course. Wouldn't go back.�
May 6, 2015
aus New here, so excuse me if this has been asked, but why the hell is Tesla using PS2's tires when the SuperSport is a far superior tire, and generally cheaper tire?
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May 6, 2015
ra-san Because it doesn't come in the right size for 21s? Would be nice. As would a 20's option.�
May 8, 2015
dcohen I am told that the present build of P85D are staggered.�
May 14, 2015
CSFTN Just received a P85D yesterday, produced about 4 weeks ago. 19 inch, not staggered, Michelin�
May 14, 2015
dennis 19s were never staggered.�
May 15, 2015
Denarius The title of this thread should probably be updated to avoid confusion.�
May 15, 2015
dcohen The question is whether the current P85D's are coming in staggered? I am being told that they are spec'ed to be staggered.�
May 15, 2015
dennis I was told by my DS and confirmed by his boss that the P85D can be delivered with either the 245 square or 245/265 staggered configuration and meet all specs. The Tesla website no longer refers to the tire size. My advice if you want the staggered configuration is to insist on getting the tires and rear wheels swapped out when you take delivery. Several posters on this forum have had Tesla agree to do this.�
May 17, 2015
GetAmped My 21's for summer are a staggered setup, the 19's for winter are all the same.�
May 17, 2015
dsm363 What would be a better title?�
May 17, 2015
gg_got_a_tesla P85D 19" tires can optionally be staggered�
May 17, 2015
Denarius Good question.
For a short while it appears Tesla was out of 9" wide 21" wheels and so shipped a square setup. The title implies that this is still the case, which it is not.
"Some P85D shipped in Feb 2015 with non-staggered 21" wheels" or something like that.�
May 17, 2015
dennis I was at the Fremont Delivery Center on the last day of March and all of the P85D's that I saw waiting to be delivered had a square setup with the Conti's. So I don't think it was limited to February.
It would be interesting to know if the recent deliveries of P85D's are all staggered or if there continues to be a mix of square and staggered setups.�
May 17, 2015
Denarius Interesting.
maybe change it to
"Some P85Ds being delivery with non-staggered wheels."�
May 20, 2015
dennis I inquired about this while I was at the Fremont store today and was told by a reliable source that Tesla no longer has a "policy statement" about what tires are delivered with the 21" wheel option on the P85D. Both the square Continental and staggered Michelin setups are approved to be used on the car. New production is delivered with whichever of these tire options is currently available in inventory.�
May 21, 2015
dcohen When you are purchasing a 125k sports car, you should expect staggered tires and there should not be a change of spec's, after being told they would be staggered.�
May 21, 2015
3mp_kwh With feedback that 245 Michelins have 1" more width, than 245 Conti's (and I'm well aware this can happen between brands/models), I wonder are 265 staggered Michelins 2" wider, than "square Continental"?�
Jun 6, 2015
mattwhite I ordered my P85D this week. I was initially told by the guy at the Tesla store in Houston that it would come with the staggered setup/PS2s, which is what I want. I asked him to confirm this. He is now telling me that the staggered setup has been discontinued and it is impossible to get. So I then told him I want to buy 2 - 21 x 9 rear wheels and he's looking into that. I'm assuming these wheels exist and are available (owners who already have the staggered setup might need replacement wheels occasionally so they must stock them).
If Tesla won't sell me a couple of 21 x 9 rear wheels, then I'm probably out on this car. I'll be honest, I'm a few days in on the whole Tesla experience and I'm impressed in some ways and frustrated in others. I've never bought a car where I didn't know when I ordered it what size wheels/tires were going to show up. And the fact that Tesla is apparently communicating several versions of why the staggered setup is currently unavailable and whether or not it will come back is extremely frustrating.�
Jun 6, 2015
andrewket I encourage you to read the threads from the many P85+ and P85D owners who have swapped out of the staggered setup or have moved to 19's. The staggered 21's are not worth it, either from a cosmetic perspective (personal choice) or a performance/cost perspective imho.
If you really have your heart set on it, accept delivery with non staggered 21's and swap with someone who has them who is trying to get out. You'll both be happy.�
Jun 6, 2015
mattwhite Yeah I've tried to read every thread on this issue. Dennis's comments earlier in this thread about running the square setup then reverting to the staggered and noticing the improvement in handling was extremely helpful.
To me the square setup has three issues. First, aesthetics, which admittedly is very personal. To me the car just does not look nearly as good with the skinnier 245 rear section tires. I personally couldn't live with that look and I'm also not a huge aftermarket wheel guy either (unless I'm going with track wheels, which I'm obviously not going to need with this car) so that is not a solution for me.
Secondly, I've never been a huge fan of Continental tires. I've had them on Porsches and BMWs I've owned in the past and I've always ditched them ASAP, usually for Michelins. Add the fact that they are marketed as "silent," which I can't help but believe means a compromise in some other area (probably weight and handling). I'm also not that concerned about tire wear - my daily drivers are usually BMW M cars and I'm lucky to get 5,000 miles out of a set of rears on those.
Finally, while I may be wrong on this, I cannot believe that the square setup is the optimal setup for handling on this car, given the 50/50 weight bias. I know of no other performance car (either RWD or AWD) that comes with a square setup. I'm guessing that Tesla has made this switch to streamline the supply chain, allow for tire rotation and try to make the ride quieter. That's fine, and it probably works better for most owners, but I'm one of those outliers who doesn't care that much about tire wear or tire rotation and can live with a bit more noise, but does definitely care about optimal handling.
My DS came up with a solution. I'm going to order the car with the basic 19" and pay my service center directly for the staggered wheels/tires and they will put them on when my car arrives. While this ends up being about $1,700 more than if they were available from Tesla when ordering the car, it guarantees that I get the staggered setup and I'll probably be able to unload the 19"s with tires for about $1,000, so it only ends up being about $700 or so extra, which is worth it in my book.�
Jun 7, 2015
mgboyes I know a couple of UK reservation holders who have asked for their P85D builds to be put on hold until they get clarity on this issue, having driven P85D test cars with square and staggered setups back to back and experienced a very noticeable difference in steering communication, balance and general handling in the bends. 0-60 in a straight line of course it makes no difference at all, but in cornering I am told the difference is like night and day.
I'm waiting for a test drive opportunity myself.�
Jun 8, 2015
pax My P85D was delivered on May 8th 2015 with the square setup. I had specifically asked for the staggered, yet I still drove the car away that day. I had had enough of waiting to get it. I am now going to go back to the SC and ask about this and see if they honor my original request.�
Jun 8, 2015
Uncle Paul It may be that going to an additional motor up front has changed the balance of the car with additional weight on the front tires. Some of the people I have spoken to with RWD only Teslas (non P) mentioned that their front ends would not feel planted in curves, and that carrying a couple hundred pounds in the frunk make it feel significantly better.
Since Tesla has a test track adjacent to their faciility I would suppose that they have sorted all this out, and have their reasons for going with a square setup on the new D's�
Jun 8, 2015
dcohen I just took delivery this past weekend on a P85D, with a square set-up. I love the car but was very frustrated with Tesla that they made this change. I test drove staggered, and have always had that setup on my past cars. They tell me there is nothing they can do, and after there testing this is a better set-up. Not happy about this.�
Jun 9, 2015
mattwhite I suppose Tesla has much more to factor in when determining tire/wheel sizes and compounds than the average manufacturer of sport sedans. Road noise and rolling resistance become much more important to most people when the car is powered by batteries. I'm guessing that Tesla thinks the 245 square setup with the Contis is the best compromise given all available factors (road noise, rolling resistance, wear, handling, rotation, etc.). Is it the best handling setup though? Absent a back to back test, that will be hard to determine but generally more rubber on the ground will improve overall lap speed.
I've seen posts here that say reducing the size of the rear tire from 265 to 245 will make the car less prone to understeer, but that's not necessarily accurate. Cars can have different tendencies to understeer or oversteer at different times in the same corner. For example, I owned a 997 Porsche 991S. On initial turn-in, it understeered like a pig. The front tires were 235 section and the rears were 295s. So why not just make the rear tires smaller to reduce the understeer? Well, do that and once you do get the car turned in and get back on the throttle, the rear end will have much more of a tendency to step out on you. Porsche made a compromise because all decisions about tire and wheel size as they affect handling are compromises to some degree.
My guess is that reducing the size of the rear tires and wheels on the P85D probably means the car will understeer a bit less at turn-in on slower corners, but will be less able to put the power down coming out of corners and probably less confidence inspiring in mid to fast corners. I'm not saying there will be a massive difference but I bet it is noticeable. This is a complicated issue because the car has electronics that will probably intervene as you get close to the limit (traction and stability control). It also has torque vectoring between the front and rear motors (maybe the dual motors allow for some sort of magic balancing that renders tire size less important than normal, who knows?). My guess, however, is that because of the additional rubber on the ground, the staggered setup with PS2s will have a higher threshold before the electronics start to cut in, especially after you've got the car turned in and also in higher speed corners.
Who's got both sets and wants to run a few laps at their local track and report back? I'm definitely going to test the limits of mine on the track when I get it but I won't have the 245 Contis to compare the staggered setup to.�
Jun 9, 2015
NOLA_Mike I think you guys are reading too much into this as far as why Tesla is switching back and forth between the staggered setup and square. I think the only tire manufacturer that makes the 265/35ZR21 tires is Michelin and when Michelin can't supply enough tires to keep the assembly line moving you get the square setup.
But that's just my mostly uninformed opinion.
Mike�
Jun 9, 2015
dennis I believe that the better handling of the staggered setup vs. the square one has a lot more to do with the Michelin PS2's than the extra 20mm of rear tire width. So one approach is to sell the Continentals and mount 245/35 Michelin PS2's or Pilot Super Sports all the way around. Better handling and possibly a little less understeer.�
Jun 9, 2015
mattwhite Have they moved back and forth? I thought the just moved from the 265s PS2s to the 245 square Contis. Have not read of anyone in the US getting 265s after they started coming with the 245s (other than for possible delivery lag). If they have gone back and forth, you're probably right. Although if that's the case, they shouldn't be representing to customers that they have discontinued the 265s and that the 245 square is the only option from now on. I will say that I had no problem ordering the 265 staggered setup with PS2s from my service center (although I realize that one set is a lot different than supplying a whole production line).�
Jun 9, 2015
NOLA_Mike While I have no personal confirmation one way or the other, if you just read through this thread it appears it has gone back and forth - in February folks were being told to expect square setup, in May it was back to staggered.
As far as ordering from the service center, I would expect if they are having supply problems they will quit producing cars with them BEFORE they completely run out - those of us with the staggered setup need to be able to buy replacements when we need them.
Mike�
Jun 9, 2015
pax I called the SC today and they said that they have not seen any P85D's delivered with staggered setup. Of course they offered to sell me the wider wheels and tires if I want that but warned me that they are testing the car only in the square setup. Unfortunately I let my frustration show a bit. I hate it when I do that.�
Jun 9, 2015
dennis I had it confirmed by knowledgeable people at both the Fremont Delivery Center and Fremont Design Center that the P85D has been tested and approved with both the square and staggered setup. The cars are delivered with whatever tires are available. There is no way Tesla could have delivered P85D's with the staggered setup without testing, despite what your SC is saying.�
Jun 10, 2015
dcohen Is there any information on the Continental's being quieter, vs the Michelin's, in the Staggered setup?�
Jun 10, 2015
mgboyes The new Continentals are a "Contisilent" variant produced for the Model S, with a foam insert fitted inside the tyre that apparently significantly reduces noise.
I'm told they're quieter even than the 19s.�
Jul 7, 2015
manis I'm taking delivery of my P85D tomorrow and I asked my DS, who is the delivery manager in Fremont, if staggered wheels were delivered anymore. She said they got rid of the option a while back. I did ask about buying a set of 9" wheels and she said it is possible, but they are "custom built" and she is going to get me the pricing.
Just thought this might be useful information for anyone interested.�
Sep 10, 2015
pax Looks like staggered is back for P85D and P90D. Heard this from delivery manager in the north east (US).�
Sep 10, 2015
Rafik I'd say it's been all but confirmed. Pete90D recently took delivery of a P90DL with a staggered arrangement, though he did state he had expressed interest in this to his DS IIRC. Tesla SC here in Tampa did also state to me they are bringing it back for P cars, for what that's worth.�
Sep 10, 2015
Pete90D I asked her about it and her statement at the time was that she heard both would be getting it, but until she saw it she couldn't say for sure. There is no documentation anywhere that I requested it so I don't think it is specific to me. Also when I originally ordered my P85D I asked to buy a set of staggered wheels and she told me it would be a custom order and she would need to get pricing.
So I do believe it is standard for them now.�
Sep 11, 2015
ArtInCT Last week when I posted the battery part numbers on another thread, there was a P90D in the SC as a new delivery. It had the 21" staggered wheels. Very few data points however. There was one other P90D but it had the 19" 5 spoke standard wheels which are so to speak "normal" for the Northeastern roads.�
Sep 11, 2015
blanche I took delivery in early Aug with staggered 21" Pirellis.�
Sep 11, 2015
Gekko I have the non staggered on my p85d. My friend has the staggered setup. The performance is better with the staggered setup, but a little more road noice.
Conclusion: I would go for the staggered setup�
Sep 11, 2015
mgboyes Really??
Tesla have never supplied Pirelli tires on Model S that I know of. Are you sure you don't mean Michelin Pilot Sport 2?�
Sep 11, 2015
mercer2 I did received my p85d early august as well with no staggered setup and not pirelli tires, I then had my service center get me 2 wider back wheels and all pirelis super sport staggered setup.�
Feb 15, 2016
MikeBur Revisiting an old thread, as friend of mine just offered me some 245/35/21 Hancocks that have less then 1000 miles on them. They are in perfect condition and appear brand new. These are the specs:HankookVentus V12 evo2.
i currently run staggered setup on my p85d on PS2s and straight 21s for winter.
Anyone have experience with these Hancock's and would it be these be better/worse than staggered ps2s?
If you are already on a straight setup and interested let me know via PM, as if I pass I will intro you. Otherwise I'll recommend he just post these in classifieds
thanks, Mike�
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