Sep 19, 2015
asgard How about a petition to Tesla with a 100 signatures?�
Sep 19, 2015
slcasner You mean 100 of the (now less than) 500 owners of 1.5 cars stating that they would buy the 3.0 battery if available? That number might be hard to reach. But perhaps a smaller number would be sufficient to convince Tesla to do the additional work required to support the 1.5 cars. I would put my name on that list.�
Sep 19, 2015
shrink As a 2.0 owner I'd support the 1.5 owners and sign a petition. If someone wants to put something together saying all Roadster owners support a 1.5 battery upgrade path, I imagine there would be a lot of support.
Although I can appreciate there could be engineering challenges and concerns about resource allocation, etc. for a potentially small number of cars that actually upgrade. I just hate seeing some dedicated owners left out in the cold.�
Sep 19, 2015
ecarfan I would add my name to that list.
Maybe we need a thread specifically for the purpose of having each 1.5 owner who wants to buy within the next two years a 3.0 battery upgrade make one post and see how many posts we can get.�
Sep 19, 2015
sethr I second that notion - we should all stand together on this. I would think a petition by all Roadster owners would speak even more strongly than a petition signed by 1.5 owners only.�
Sep 19, 2015
gregd Another 2.0 owner in support of the 1.5's. Unless they need to push the laws of physics on this (and I can't imagine how that could be), it would be a shame to start sub-dividing the Roadsters. We are a team, regardless of model, supporting the revolution that Tesla is embarking on.�
Sep 19, 2015
dhrivnak I am a 1.5 owner and I would be happy to sign. I had even started to save up until I was told I could not get it. And as a result I am VERY disappointed.�
Sep 20, 2015
supersnoop I think a petition would be pointless unless it was actually 1.5 owners who are interested in the upgrade. Really, it should only take 20 actual owner to put down a deposit on the upgrade to make it worthwhile for Tesla to move forward. Assuming they aren't already.�
Sep 20, 2015
wiztecy Also please voice to your service managers and any Tesla representatives that the 1.5 owners want this battery upgrade, I've been doing so. From the employee they are hearing how disappointed we all are about this.�
Sep 20, 2015
Gary1M Count me in for signing that petition. I don't need or want the upgrade now, but at some point in the future I will. I'm OK if this also requires a deposit is necessary to encourage Tesla to dedicate the necessary resources if that ensures this upgrade project moves forward to include us 1.5 owners.�
Sep 20, 2015
slcasner Right. Since 1.5 owners can't make a deposit at this time, it would first need to be in the form of a petition or letter of intent from those 20.�
Sep 20, 2015
asgard So what's the best way to get this started? There are many of us here in Silicon Valley who can hand-deliver a stack of signed petitions.�
Sep 20, 2015
richkae If the goal was to offer the 3.0 battery and get very few takers, excluding the 1.5 owners was a good way to do it.
I would have expected that more than 1/2 of the sales of 3.0 batteries in the first year or so would be from 1.5 owners ( only 20% of the population ).
All of those cars are 6-7 years old and are the most likely to need it.
If Tesla had said, "We have a 3.0 battery, but it only works on 1.5 cars. We will have a 3.0 battery for the 2.X cars available next year" I would have thought: that makes perfect sense. Good for them for doing it that way. I can certainly wait.�
Sep 20, 2015
samcarney Count me in also.�
Sep 20, 2015
supersnoop In the "old days," we called this a "group buy." Get a commitment from a large enough number of people, and use that to convince the company to move forward. I cannot stress enough that it needs to come from actual, committed 1.5 owners.�
Sep 20, 2015
ViperDoc Now there is an idea�try to put it up on Sign Up or Login - Massdrop!�
Sep 20, 2015
josh-io Count me in for a signature from a 1.5 owner. This incident makes me question how long we should expect manufacturers to support the electric cars they produce.�
Sep 21, 2015
dhrivnak I can write a letter and would be happy to send it to you later next week. Please just PM me your snail mail.�
Sep 21, 2015
slcasner We do have an example to follow in widodh's petition to Tesla requesting 3-phase charging for EU Model S:
Endorse my letter to Tesla for supporting 3-phase charging for the Model S
widodh's letter provided details of 3-phase charging in EU to argue the case, but his endorsers were already Model S reservation holders, so there was no additional commitment to make. In our case, there is no argument to make, but we need a letter from each of us saying that we commit to putting down a deposit if Tesla will accept it and make the battery upgrade available for 1.5 cars.�
Sep 22, 2015
Cottonwood I'm another 1.5 owner willing to sign the letter and commit to a deposit.�
Sep 22, 2015
asgard I'm in.�
Sep 22, 2015
spiderguy I think that, as a practical matter, all 1.5 owners would sign a petition. In addition, most 2.0 and 2.5 owners would endorse such a petition. Let's start a formal list of:
1) 1.5 Roadster owners that would be willing to put down a deposit for an upgraded battery.
2) Any Roadster owner that endorses the upgrade.
From this thread alone, we have the following lists:
1.5 Owners who would put down a deposit on a battery upgrade
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1. asgard
2. Slcasner
3. ecarfan
4. dhrivnak
5. Gary1M
6. samcarney
7. supersnoop
8. josh-io
9. Cottonwood
10. spiderguy
Other Roadster owners that support a 1.5 upgrade
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1. shrink
2. sethr
3. gregd�
Sep 22, 2015
BartJ 1.5 Owners who would put down a deposit on a battery upgrade
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1. asgard
2. Slcasner
3. ecarfan
4. dhrivnak
5. Gary1M
6. samcarney
7. supersnoop
8. josh-io
9. Cottonwood
10. spiderguy
Other Roadster owners that support a 1.5 upgrade
--------------------------------------------------
1. shrink
2. sethr
3. gregd
4. bartj�
Sep 22, 2015
bobinfla 1.5 Owners who would put down a deposit on a battery upgrade
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1. asgard
2. Slcasner
3. ecarfan
4. dhrivnak
5. Gary1M
6. samcarney
7. supersnoop
8. josh-io
9. Cottonwood
10. spiderguy
11. BobinFla
Other Roadster owners that support a 1.5 upgrade
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1. shrink
2. sethr
3. gregd
4. bartj�
Sep 22, 2015
stevejust 1.5 Owners who would put down a deposit on a battery upgrade
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1. asgard
2. Slcasner
3. ecarfan
4. dhrivnak
5. Gary1M
6. samcarney
7. supersnoop
8. josh-io
9. Cottonwood
10. spiderguy
11. BobinFla
Other Roadster owners that support a 1.5 upgrade
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1. shrink
2. sethr
3. gregd
4. bartj
5. stevejust�
Sep 22, 2015
Curt Add me to the "would put down a deposit" list.�
Sep 22, 2015
wiztecy Latest changelog: Added Sparrow to 1st section; Added bpangburn, tvuolo, augkuo & moved supersnoop to 2nd section.
1.5 Owners who would put down a deposit on a battery upgrade
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1. asgard
2. Slcasner
3. ecarfan
4. dhrivnak
5. Gary1M
6. samcarney
7. josh-io
8. Cottonwood
9. spiderguy
10. BobinFla
11. Curt
12. frequencydip
13. Sparrow
Other Roadster owners that support a 1.5 upgrade
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1. shrink
2. sethr
3. gregd
4. bartj
5. stevejust
6. wiztecy
7. AEdennis
8. supersnoop
9. bpangburn
10. tvuolo
11. augkuo�
Sep 22, 2015
AEdennis @wiztecy you can list us for the 2nd option... Range charge on my wife's car is up to 235 at its annual service (up from 224 last year). Don't need it now but would be willing to spend money if it was a choice. (When it makes sense to do so)�
Sep 22, 2015
frequencydip Put me as a 1.5 owner that would make a deposit.�
Sep 22, 2015
wiztecy Updated list. Please verify and let me know if there are any mistakes or changes. Thanks!�
Sep 23, 2015
supersnoop Please move me to the second category. I'm not interested in purchasing the upgrade.�
Sep 23, 2015
Sparrow I would certainly put down a deposit for a new pack especially since I already did that with Tesla before we found out that 1.5s were not included. I need a replacement pack ASAP, due to the sensor problem in my current pack, so at some point I might be forced to go with a refurbished pack if I experience a total failure in my current pack. If I got a refurbished pack I would no longer be interested in a new pack and would then need to be put in the second category. Hope that makes sense. So for now put me down for group 1.�
Sep 23, 2015
bpangburn Please add me to group 2. For now, my battery & range are fine, but I'd certainly like to have the upgrade option available in the future.�
Sep 23, 2015
tvuolo Group 2, please. My battery is doing fine.�
Sep 23, 2015
pharma5 Group 2 please.
(Needed more info before finding out it wasn't available for 1.5's yet).�
Sep 24, 2015
m0rph Also group 2 pls�
Sep 24, 2015
wiztecy Window closed for modifications of post #27, reposting to edit.
Latest changelog: + ggr, smorgasbord, pharma5, Habious, & m0rph to group 2.
1.5 Owners who would put down a deposit on a battery upgrade
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1. asgard
2. Slcasner
3. ecarfan
4. dhrivnak
5. Gary1M
6. samcarney
7. josh-io
8. Cottonwood
9. spiderguy
10. BobinFla
11. Curt
12. frequencydip
13. Sparrow
Other Roadster owners that support a 1.5 upgrade
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1. shrink
2. sethr
3. gregd
4. bartj
5. stevejust
6. wiztecy
7. AEdennis
8. supersnoop
9. bpangburn
10. tvuolo
11. augkuo
12. pharma5
13. m0rph
14. Habious
15. smorgasbord
16. ggr
�
Sep 24, 2015
Habious You can list me as a member of group 2 but, I'm not really following how this second group helps the cause. From what I understand, it's a list of people who will not, under any circumstances, give Tesla any money if they decide to build a 3.0 (1.5) battery...but really think they should anyway.
I 100% agree with group 1, though. "Here's a list of 25 people, checks-in-hand, if you build it". That will get their attention.�
Sep 24, 2015
spiderguy Group 2 is important for at least a couple of reasons. First of all, it contains many 1.5 owners who are interested in a 3.0 battery, but don't need it in the immediate future. This is surely the case for some 1.5 owners that still have high CAC numbers and significant range remaining in their cars. Secondly, a long list of supporters would show Tesla that the Roadster owners stand together in solidarity. A petition with a couple of hundred names on it would surely be more impressive than a list of 25.
Going forward, we should probably convert the screen names to real names, along with their Roadster #, to demonstrate that there is definitive, tangible and immediate demand for the upgrade. I suppose it could work if everyone sent their information to one person to put in a spreadsheet. I'm just thinking that there must be an easier method, such as an app for a petition. Please chime in if you know of a better method.�
Sep 24, 2015
smorgasbord I'm with Habious here. Count me in in #2, but I don't think that'll matter to Tesla. It's easy to add your name to list that says you want Tesla to do something for someone else that doesn't impact you and doesn't cost you anything.
We'd have to do something crazy and impossible like convince every V2.X owner to NOT get the upgrade until Tesla promises to make it available to V1.X owners. But even there, Tesla might just say: "OK, no upgrades for anyone? That saves us a bunch of time and money." Remember, Tesla takes in more money in Model S sales in one day than it would if every v1.X owner decided to upgrade their battery.�
Sep 24, 2015
bonnie Do we know they're not working on anything already for 1.5?�
Sep 24, 2015
Habious
As usual, Bonnie, we don't know much of anything. Everyone is just guessing.�
Sep 24, 2015
bonnie Carry on.
�
Sep 24, 2015
ggr You can add me to the list of people who support 1.5 availability. I hadn't been keeping up with this thread.
In the meantime the service center just told me my battery should be ready in about two weeks.�
Sep 24, 2015
sethr I think that such a move would be extremely embarrassing for Tesla. Not to mention that some (ggr, at least) are about to get their new batteries....
That was exactly my intention.�
Sep 24, 2015
PokerBroker Add me to the 1.5 deposit list�
Sep 24, 2015
ecarfan We certainly do not know if that is the case but it certainly is possible. Regardless, a public list of 1.5 owners saying "We are ready to buy a 3.0 battery now for our cars" can only help to convince Tesla to a) Decide to do it or b) Work faster [emoji3]�
Sep 25, 2015
Doug_G Moved some posts to Third Party 1.5 Battery Replacement???�
Sep 25, 2015
Zak Count me in as a signature, but I won't put down a deposit.
The lack of communication around this issue doesn't give me confidence. Why should I put up a deposit without any details? I don't know weight, kWh capacity, timing, cost for a 1.5 variant, etc. As soon as it is available, I will buy it. But I won't be placing a deposit.
My car needs a battery today, and I have been quoted $32K to replace it. It's great that a replacement is available, but why is it more expensive than the higher capacity battery that doesn't require electronics upgrades? The messaging of supporting and being grateful for early customers is not coming through in practice. My hope is that they are overwhelmed with other activities, and will resolve these issues when they come up for air.
Zak�
Sep 25, 2015
wiztecy Window closed for modifications of post #27 & 37, reposting to edit.
Latest changelog: + Six, Poker Broker to group 1 & bonnie, djf, dsm363, m0rph to group 2.
1.5 Owners who would put down a deposit on a battery upgrade
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1. asgard
2. Slcasner
3. ecarfan
4. dhrivnak
5. Gary1M
6. samcarney
7. josh-io
8. Cottonwood
9. spiderguy
10. BobinFla
11. Curt
12. frequencydip
13. Sparrow
14. PokerBroker
15. Six
Other Roadster owners that support a 1.5 upgrade
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1. shrink
2. sethr
3. gregd
4. bartj
5. stevejust
6. wiztecy
7. AEdennis
8. supersnoop
9. bpangburn
10. tvuolo
11. augkuo
12. pharma5
13. m0rph
14. Habious
15. smorgasbord
16. ggr
17. Zak
18. bonnie
19. dsm363
20. djf
�
Sep 25, 2015
Zak wiztecy - I would like to make sure my support comes through properly. While I am not going to put down a deposit, I will buy a 3.0 battery immediately if it is made available, and the terms are acceptable (particularly price).
As it stands now, I am an the category who are not buying, and just supporting. I am a buyer. My car doesn't work today, so there is some pressure to make a decision. But how can I buy the current battery when a better one may be available soon?
Zak�
Sep 25, 2015
bonnie Can't imagine why anyone wouldn't support the 1.5s in this ... you're all the OG and we all owe you.
1.5 Owners who would put down a deposit on a battery upgrade
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1. asgard
2. Slcasner
3. ecarfan
4. dhrivnak
5. Gary1M
6. samcarney
7. josh-io
8. Cottonwood
9. spiderguy
10. BobinFla
11. Curt
12. frequencydip
13. Sparrow
14. PokerBroker
Other Roadster owners that support a 1.5 upgrade
--------------------------------------------------
1. shrink
2. sethr
3. gregd
4. bartj
5. stevejust
6. wiztecy
7. AEdennis
8. supersnoop
9. bpangburn
10. tvuolo
11. augkuo
12. pharma5
13. m0rph
14. Habious
15. smorgasbord
16. ggr
17. Zak
18. bonnie�
Sep 25, 2015
dsm363 I'll sign too (2.5 owner)�
Sep 25, 2015
asgard Zak, would you buy one if the terms and the pricing are exactly the same as the 3.0 battery publicly available today to 2.0+ owners?�
Sep 25, 2015
Six I will eventually need a new battery for my 1.5 roadster. So will buy one some day if possible. If the only way an upgraded battery for a 1.5 will be made available is to put down a deposit now, I would do so. So I guess I count as a yes.
I am am far from convinced that a list of potential buyers will make a difference to Tesla. I think they will do it or not based on their own whims. But since it can not possibly hurt. Sign me up.�
Sep 26, 2015
roadster340 I'm also in the position that I will need a new battery in the future and I'd like to get the newer high capacity version. I wouldn't mind putting down a deposit for a future battery upgrade although I is unlikely I would need it for a few years. When I bout the car a little over three years ago Tesla installed a new battery after the previous owner bricked the original battery. I suspect the cost of the 3.0 upgrade would discourage me from jumping in right now but I definitely would be game in the future. So add me to the list of 1.5 owners!!!�
Sep 27, 2015
dhrivnak Here is my first draft of a letter and I am open to suggestions. Assuming we all write a similar letter who/where would we send it to? If all of us will write something similar then may be can get a response.
Dear Tesla;
I am very disappointed that Tesla has not indicated whether the 3.0 battery will ever be made available for Roadster 1.5 owners. While I selfishly would like to see such an upgrade made available for early adopters, I am more worried about a larger potential backlash against Tesla and EV�s in general.
Over the past 4 � years I have taken my Roadster to dozens upon dozens of car shows, I have presented the EV story at environmental conferences, civic groups, and schools; and the #1 question I always receive; is how long will the battery last and what is the cost to replace it. The only "official" answer I have heard from Tesla is a replacement 1.5 battery is $42,000 and with the cells now more than 3 years out of production, there is no clear answer on how such packs can be maintained. Purchasing a $100,000 car is one thing, but paying 40% of its value on a replacement battery in 7-10 years is expensive. My battery has steadily declined losing 12% of capacity and it will not be long before many of my trips will be out of range of the car.
I understand that there is a lot of work with the Model X launch and there could be some delays, but the lack of communication is very disconcerting and we are losing that Tesla touch that sold so many people early on.
If the plan is to offer the 3.0 upgrade to 1.5 owners then please tell us. If the concern is lack of volume there are at least fifteen 1.5 owners who have said they are willing to place a deposit for a 3.0 pack now to start development work. Let me know if you want the list of names. If for some reason an upgrade is not in the works or possible, then in the spirit of openness, as in releasing your patents, please allow 1.5 owners to purchase a shop repair manual/DVD so we have a shot of maintaining our own cars.
Thank you for your time.
Or if the group wants to sign a petition just let me know how to do that. Thank you�
Sep 27, 2015
supersnoop There is no way I'd sign anything like that! To quote myself responding to another one of your off-the-wall posts, "Tesla has not said that they will not build one. All they have said is that the current offering is incompatible with the 1.5 melts chill on the hyperbole." Going so far over the top and making wild accusations does not build good will.�
Sep 27, 2015
Doug_G It's not that far over the top, but it would be better to strive for absolute accuracy: "I am very disappointed that Tesla has not indicated whether the 3.0 battery will ever be made available for Roadster 1.5 owners."
I think that is a bad tone to take. You want to make a positive message, not to threaten consequences. If you really want to include something like that, might I suggest something more in a tone of disappointment, something along the lines of "I will find it awkward to continue to show my car and promote Tesla".�
Sep 27, 2015
dhrivnak I am open to suggestions but no-one here has received ANY indication that anything for version 1.5 is even being considered. It has been 3 weeks since they have refunded the 1.5 owners who put down a deposit. So their actions to date do not suggest any accommodation. I really hope you are right here but I would have thought if anything was in the works or under consideration we could have heard by now. I am curious on how long you are willing to wait?
- - - Updated - - -
Smorgasbord, I wonder what will happen to Model S sales if they hear packs are not up-gradable? Right now I am following Tesla's actions not their promises. It seems that even those who want and can upgrade to the 3.0 battery pack are still a ways from getting one.�
Sep 27, 2015
ecarfan I am not going to set a timeline on how long I am going to wait for a new 1.5 battery, but I can say that I won't be threatening Tesla with any action over the issue.
All Tesla has to do is continue to repair and support the original 1.5 battery. While I am of course very disappointed that there is so far no new and better 1.5 battery, Tesla is under no obligation legal or otherwise to offer me one m�
Sep 27, 2015
nsxpert This is all highly disappointing, but makes sense that tesla can't support the 1.5's and rest of the roadster models equally.
You can put me on the list for 100% wanting to buy a 3.0 battery if they ever make it technically possible.�
Sep 28, 2015
Zak Most definitely yes. I do wonder why they can't tell us by how much the weight has increased though.�
Sep 28, 2015
stevejust Frankly, I think this as a tweet might have the most chance of getting response, sometime after the launch of the Model X tomorrow. Maybe late next week?
@elonmusk: what is the plan for the longevity of Roadster 1.5s given no 3.0 availability? Sincerely, @500 worried early adopters.
It won't come from me, because I'm not the original owner. They don't care about me. But if some of the original signature or founder's series owners sent a tweet like this, there could be a response.�
Sep 28, 2015
jeremyz 
These guys are both enthusiastic original Roadster 1.5 owners. If only they had some sway over deciding how well Tesla supports the Roadster 1.5.�
Sep 28, 2015
ecarfan Wow, great photo, haven't seen that one before. 2008-era? It isn't often that we see photos of Elon with a huge grin. JB looks his usual somewhat reserved self.�
Sep 28, 2015
Strib Thinking about mentioning this high level of angst if E.M. speaks to us tomorrow night at the gala Model X Launch event...�
Sep 29, 2015
asgard We might get more attention if we deliver one letter with a lot of signatures. We may have to water down some of the text to be acceptable to everyone in this thread.�
Sep 29, 2015
Zak The pic is from my blog ;-) Re: P1 Arriving Now!
Elon and JB do both have early Roadsters. I'm not sure that Elon is still driving his though. I had heard it is now on display, rather than on the road. I could be wrong here.
I'm not sure what components JB's car has inside. His is a very early prototype that has been modified many times over the years. If I had to guess, I would say that his has been upgrade to at least 2.0 spec.�
Sep 30, 2015
ViperDoc I am a 2.5 owner, and you can add me to the list of Roadster owners who think that Tesla should support a similar battery upgrade to the 1.5. However, as others have said, I wonder whether adding our names to that list, when we aren't necessarily buying a battery for a 1.5 makes a difference. If the development cost to overcome the issue that has led to no 1.5 battery upgrade to date costs a lot of money, I wonder how many 2.0 and 2.5 owners would be willing to shoulder a portion of those development costs spread across all battery upgrades (not just the 1.5's but increase the cost of 2.0 and 2.5 so all upgrades were the same price to keep Tesla "breaking even")? Then there'd be some skin in the game, but without that, I am not sure Tesla would really care.�
Sep 30, 2015
asgard I might be wrong, but there is no upgrade path from a 1.5 to a 2.0 (i.e. everything is incompatible, from the PEM to the lack of switch pack to an entirely new firmware). Hence it would make sense that the 1.5 is dead-ended.�
Sep 30, 2015
Zak asgard - you are generally correct, though Tesla upgraded a few prototypes from 1.0, or 1.5, to 2.0 spec. It requires a serious overhaul of the car, but it can be done. For purposes of a 3.0 battery upgrade though, they would need to develop it for the 1.5 car. I'm not sure what the exact issue is. I wish Tesla would tell us so we didn't have to speculate. It would also be nice if they could tell us if they are considering an upgrade path for 1.5 cars.�
Oct 4, 2015
asgard Forum user "roadster22" posted in the 3.0 thread that his internal contact at Tesla informed him of a battery upgrade for the 1.5 possibly in the works.�
Oct 5, 2015
dpeilow
I remember that blog entry but forgot about the specific picture. Pity Tesla's web people couldn't be bothered to transfer the high res images when they redid the site a few years back. Many important images (such as the useful Roadster range and speed blog) were lost during that transition.�
Oct 27, 2015
slcasner OK, now that Tesla has made the 3.0 battery upgrade available for 1.5 cars we'll find out how many of the 1.5 owners really meant it!
I put down my deposit today. I look forward to being able to drive to Santa Barbara without a charging stop.�
Oct 27, 2015
ecarfan I put down my deposit yesterday for a 3.0 battery. [emoji2]�
Oct 27, 2015
AEdennis I'm consistent... We still have pretty good capacity on ours and will wait until we have greater degradation.
Glad to see Tesla offer this to us though.�
Oct 27, 2015
bobinfla My deposit went in yesterday. :smile:�
Oct 28, 2015
dhrivnak I am saving in earnest. Hopefully will have the fund before next summer.�
Oct 28, 2015
asgard I splurged! I just received a replacement battery under warranty but I went ahead with the upgrade anyway�
Oct 28, 2015
ecarfan Exellent!
For those who have placed an order for the 3.0 battery, please add your information to the table in the Wiki post near the top of this thread (link below) so we can track battery orders placed and installations. Thanks.
For those who have placed an order for a new 3.0 battery�
Oct 28, 2015
rsquared99 I haven't seen it posted in this forum yet, but an article in the NASDAQ news site saying that Tesla is in negotition with LG Chem for the 400 mile replacement Roadster battery. Sorry I didn't get the link.�
Oct 28, 2015
Curt I'm just waiting for word on how my Battery Replacement Agreement (which hits the 7-year mark next month) will affect my price.�
Oct 29, 2015
asgard For the upgrade posted on the tesla website, I've heard 74KWh. It should be possible to calculate the weight pretty accurately, knowing the weight of the HG2 cells�
Oct 29, 2015
bonnie Curt, my understanding is that you can use your Battery Replacement option, along with an additional $6k, and get the upgraded version.�
Oct 30, 2015
Curt Bonnie - I had sen that somewhere, but want my Service Center to confirm before I place my order. I'll post what I find.�
Nov 2, 2015
asgard Did any of you get any email after placing the order for the upgrade?
I received an automated "thank you for your order..." but nothing more.�
Nov 2, 2015
bonnie Right. It's been posted on the forum. I was also told that directly by Tesla.�
Nov 2, 2015
slcasner Nothing more yet for me.�
Nov 3, 2015
Doug_G Moved some posts to Third Party Roadster Pack?�
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