Thứ Tư, 1 tháng 2, 2017

Onboard storage vs. USB drive for music part 1

  • Oct 8, 2013
    steve841
    To heck with sleep mode (no argument per se) .... but we still have no mention of the ADVERTISED on board music storage. Where the heck is that?
  • Oct 8, 2013
    Stoneymonster
    Remember how Stalin used to erase people from photos?
  • Oct 8, 2013
    Eggplant
    I don't quite follow why this feature is even desirable. A USB stick will get you far more storage and the convenience of being able to load files directly from your computer.
  • Oct 8, 2013
    dflye
    Well, I've broken the fold-around covers off both USB sticks I use in my car over time, just a matter of time until I completely destroy one or both of them when stashing something in the center storage in a hurry.
  • Oct 8, 2013
    jomo25
    I agree that on board music storage was advertised, thus it should be provided or some compensation should be given. But I also agree that a USB stick is much more convenient for the same purpose. And if breaking it cuz it sticks out is the issue, then there are USB sticks that have a much smaller profile now. Perhaps Tesla can provide such a 32GB stick for free and fairly close the book on that feature.
  • Oct 8, 2013
    steve841
    Yeah ... that was exactly my point.

    I dont recall sleep mode being advertised .... whereas music storage was.

    Im not losing sleep over it ..... just throwing it out there.

    Personally, I'd be happy with a major revamp of the music interface for more playlists, better arrangement .... and so on.
  • Oct 8, 2013
    JPP
  • Oct 8, 2013
    gbdesai
    They have some great low profile flash drives up to 32gb. Getting two from Amazon, they are the sandisk ones.

    EDIT: Dang it! Beat me to it!
  • Oct 8, 2013
    dsm363
  • Oct 8, 2013
    Merrill
    Can someone tell me the easiest way to transfer my music from one usb stick to another on an iMac. Those low profile usb sticks look like the way to go.
  • Oct 8, 2013
    dflye
  • Oct 8, 2013
    jomo25
    Depending on your use case, You might consider the 64gb microSDXC card (Sandisk makes a good one) with a very small micro sd card USB reader. This is what I use instead of dedicated USB thumb drives.a lows you to upgrade in the future when they come up with a 128gb micro SDXC card.

    Amazon.com: SanDisk SDSDQUA-064G-U46A Ultra 64 GB microSDXC Class 10 UHS-1 Memory Card 30MB/s with Adapter: Electronics

    Amazon.com : elago Mobile Nano II USB 2.0 microSDHC Flash Memory Card Reader (Black) : Multi Format Card Readers : Electronics

    Yes it works with the Micro SDXC card (not just micro sdhc)
  • Oct 8, 2013
    Argelius
  • Oct 8, 2013
    dsm363
    Probably best to just create a folder on your desktop and copy the songs from USB drive 1 to that folder. Then copy them to USB driver 2 from that folder. You can also just drag from one USB drive to another and do it in one step but might take a long time.
  • Oct 8, 2013
    Argelius
    As I anticipate my delivery, a week and a half away, can someone confirm that:

    [1] MS does not support iPod integration (shameful as that is).
    [2] Copying your iTunes music to a USB flash drive does not include album art; the 3G connectivity independently finds the album art (hopefully) to flesh out the aesthetics of the display.
  • Oct 8, 2013
    dsm363
    It doesn't yet support the iPod or iPhone over USB but something they hopefully get around to some day. Nothing promised though.

    The Model S seems to ignore the album art embedded in the file and goes to the internet instead. Copying music from iTunes should include the album art but it isn't looked at yet by the Model S.
  • Oct 8, 2013
    Eggplant
    Dunno about ipod. I think it doesn't.

    Album art appears to come over 3g, even for BTA connected devices. Which can be quite amusing when listening to podcasts. :)
  • Oct 8, 2013
    jerry33
    Plug both USB drives in and copy. They are just files.
  • Oct 8, 2013
    SarahsDad
    Word of caution: Don't use a USB with a metallic integrated cover like this one - ended up gouging a big scratch in my car... IMG_1870.jpg IMG_1871.jpg
  • Oct 8, 2013
    dflye
    Yikes, I guess I'll stop complaining about the plastic cover breaking off the similar looking USB drives I'm using, having it scratch things up sounds much more painful.
  • Oct 8, 2013
    agileone
  • Oct 8, 2013
    yobigd20
  • Oct 8, 2013
    gbdesai
    A hard drive is an option, but I'd prefer solid state in a moving, vibrating car. I was considering a 2.5" SSD at 256TB or even 512TB.
  • Oct 8, 2013
    ZBB
    I bought one of those low profile USB sticks when I got my car. It's full of music and is plugged into the car. I've listened to a whopping 2 tracks -- why doesn't the music player have a random button?
  • Oct 8, 2013
    Electric1
    You're missing the point, I paid extra for, in part, a larger hard drive, it was promised to me, and I want it, along with my lighted visor mirrors.
  • Oct 8, 2013
    dsm363
    It sounds like they decided they needed the room for caching maps and other uses. Yes it was promised but the amount of room they were promising was tiny (3,000 mp3s?) and can be replaced with a $8 thumb drive.
  • Oct 8, 2013
    gctseng
    I just bought this micro SD card for my phone, but it came with a ultra tiny adapter (as small as the San Disk one in the first posts)--AND it's interchangeable!

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820211737

    Ironically, I have to tape it to a bigger piece of plastic just to make sure I don't loose it. ;)
  • Oct 8, 2013
    TsRocket
    I use my ipad, bluetoothed to the car, it shows the album covers, and sync'd to whatever i have on the cloud, works for me. Only one sync at a time, tho. So, either music or phone. The zip drive is a great idea! Thanks.

    - - - Updated - - -

    How big is that? It doesnt say.
  • Oct 9, 2013
    Eggplant
    This is what I was told as well. Not that anyone would get a larger HD, but rather the space they intended to use for audio files was instead used for caching more map data. Better use IMO.
  • Oct 9, 2013
    yobigd20
    lol 1 TB = 1000 GB

    - - - Updated - - -

    oh I totally agree. all my PC's and laptops at home have SSD. my gaming PC has 4 of them in a RAID 0, lol. I love the speed. But this little ministation is rugged. No issues - no skipping. Nada. Also, it's "USB powered so there are no additional cables to manage and no need for a separate power source." It's cheap enough that it's worth the fact that its not SSD. I have had 0 issues with it. Just don't "move" your entire library to it. Always have a back-up at home. So in the unlikely event it dies for some reason (after warranty), just get another one and put the music back on it. For the $$$ and quality and SIZE, you can't beat this.
  • Oct 9, 2013
    wycolo
    USB extension.jpg
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  • Oct 9, 2013
    ChrisPDX
    I also rather prefer what Tesla is doing with using the space for map caching instead of music storage. I spent $16 and got far more music space then what they advertised. Sure it would be nice if they went ahead and sent out free $8 flash drives to make it right, but I'm not going to lose sleep over it. I'll just enjoy the faster map scrolling when I get the new firmware.
  • Oct 9, 2013
    jacobp
    While waiting for "Tessie" to arrive later this month, I'm trying to get as prepared as i can. Please forgive this simplistic and perhaps idiotic question, but can someone give me a step-by-step instruction on how to download my music library, which is on iTunes (I also use iTunes Match), to a USB Drive? Thanks in advance, for not laughing (or flaming).
  • Oct 9, 2013
    AmpedRealtor
    You are being serious when you say this?
  • Oct 9, 2013
    JPP
    Does this answer your question?:

    http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1751
  • Oct 9, 2013
    jomo25
    Yes, I am. Just like those who ordered when fog lights were advertised and didn't get them. If on board music storage was part of the package promised when they ordered and changed after the fact, then something should be done for those people. As I suggested, even if it's just Tesla shipping such people a cheap low profile thumb drive, at least they are keeping the commitment in some manner.
  • Oct 9, 2013
    riceuguy
    Just a quick survey: Who hear feels that Tesla should send them an $8 flash drive? I'll start the voting with "No." Not because I don't agree that I was promised this functionality, but because (a) they've already given me many months of free 3G and "play anything" Slacker that vastly overshadows the enjoyment I might have gotten from the hard drive space, (b) I'd rather have cached maps, and (c) I'd much rather they spend the time on other issues!
  • Oct 9, 2013
    jacobp
  • Oct 9, 2013
    AnOutsider
    I "here" vote yes. Sorry, but I want what was advertised with the car. Synching songs to my HDD via wifi was a fairly big plus to me (and it WAS coming since some of the early reports of delivery specialists was that they were going to get you set up on your network and get synching going). If it isn't coming, fine, but at least acknowledge it (and perhaps offer a usb stick).

    the "free 3g" is because they haven't gotten their ish together (for whatever reason). I'll agree there may be bigger issues, but that doesn't mean I'm OK permanently giving up something I was expecting.
  • Oct 9, 2013
    JPP
    FWIW, I just Googled it as I have forgotten the steps since I copied 32Gb of iTunes from my Mac onto my USB drive last May for my S.
  • Oct 9, 2013
    dflye
    I'm wondering how many square miles of imagery they are/can cache with the limited size of the onboard storage.

    From loading satellite imagery onto my handheld GPS receiver, at highest resolution it averages out to about 15 MB of imagery per square mile. Given that the claim was for a mere pittance of 3,000 songs (likely computed for short tracks with highly compressible music), I can't imagine it being much more than a 16 or 32 GB flash drive. The real specs are probably out there somewhere, but haven't found with a quick search.

    So going with that, it could cache perhaps 1,000 to 2,000 square miles of imagery. That sounds like a lot, but that only covers an area somewhere between 30x30 miles and 45x45 miles. At least for me, unless their caching optimizes to retain areas most frequently traveled, it would constantly be dumping pages from the cache to save whatever random place I was driving to each day (I usually drive about 50 miles a day, and rarely to the same destination area for more than a few days a month)

    I'd prefer to have some simplistic interface (similar to max charge level) to allow me to set the percentage of storage to dedicate to music vs caching.
  • Oct 9, 2013
    Shumdit
    Good info in this thread. Thanks to you guys/gals
  • Oct 9, 2013
    aaron0k
    Tesla should provide on-board storage for those who upgraded to the premium sound package; they themselves thought it had enough value to list it as a feature. Some decided to purchase that upgrade for that reason (I did)

    That package supposedly included extra storage memory, so whatever storage they're allocating for caching map tiles on the standard sound package should be sufficient and what is left over should still be there for content.

    In other vehicles, I found on-board storage was managed better and was more responsive from from internal storage (i.e. indexing, album art, metadata, scanning, playlists, searching, etc.) vs. external storage.

    As far as I know; Tesla has not made an official statement that they will not honor having onboard storage... so I'll assume it's still "coming soon..."
  • Oct 9, 2013
    dflye
    Now if I could set things up to have one huge external USB drive used for map caching, I'd be in heaven! I really hate going into spotty cell phone coverage areas and losing the google maps view, as unless I have a route planned the minimalistic turn-by-turn view doesn't even exist to give me a vague context of the area. :(
  • Oct 9, 2013
    steve841
    I don't want a free USB. Just want what I was expecting. As an early adopter, I've been fine with the teething and Tesla's response. But on a consumer level, it was advertised. If there is a true reason why it's not to be, tesla needs to communicate why.

    Note to Tesla.... That communication thing to your loyal owners is still lacking in a major way. Of course, if one has a fire, emails and press releases within hours.
  • Oct 9, 2013
    brianman
    I'm willing to compromise on this. Give me 7 additional years of connectivity (once pricing is announced), and I don't care about the music storage issue. ;)
  • Oct 10, 2013
    efusco
    I lean heavily toward the "Just tell us what the hell is going on." side on this. I can live without the onboard storage, though I had counted on it as advertised and would like to have it available as, I assume, it would be more flexible than the current USB option where there's no shuffle or any way to really randomize what music plays. But a nice explanation saying that it had to be used for the NAV or for the browser or just couldn't be integrated properly or whatever would satisfy me...esp. if they sent a free USB dongle with a nice Tesla Logo on it in compensation.
  • Oct 10, 2013
    AmpedRealtor
    I never understood the need for onboard music storage. It adds another syncing point with your phone, which is annoying and unnecessary. With current bluetooth technology, you can listen to music directly from your phone without needing to waste time transferring your music library from your phone to the vehicle. Then that library needs to be updated, it wouldn't play regular iTunes tracks due to DRM issues, etc. Far more trouble than its worth. Just pair your phone via bluetooth and play your entire music library that way. What's the big deal?
  • Oct 10, 2013
    efusco
    That assumes 1) that your entire library of music you might want to listen to fits on your phone, or 2) that you have continuously available data connectivity to stream it from the cloud.
    I, for one, don't qualify on either of those fronts. Most of the time I can stream, but we live and drive in a pretty rural area and even at my house I can't get Slacker to stream consistently.
  • Oct 10, 2013
    Odenator
    But the problem is that a contract was signed for certain options to be installed on the car and was paid for. Regardless if the feature is trivial, Tesla is contractually obligated to provide it once both parties agree to the contract and money is exchanged. Now, I'm no lawyer, just a dumb bone doc so my legal logic could be flawed.
  • Oct 10, 2013
    AmpedRealtor
    I am speaking strictly from my own perspective here, but I don't know anyone whose entire library of music could not fit into the space of a 32 GB phone or tablet. If you have music on your phone, as most of us do, you don't need to stream it from the cloud. It's already stored locally on your phone. In the case of iPhone, the only need for cloud streaming is if you are using the new iTunes Radio, in which case local storage would do nothing to help you anyway. If you have tunes in the cloud, local storage won't help you with that either. So no matter how you look at it, local storage is obsolete and very much yesterday's technology. If you were going to sync with a local storage device in the car, you are syncing it from another storage device (USB stick or phone). Just use the USB stick or phone. Easy.
  • Oct 10, 2013
    mnx
    Sounds great. Personally I couldn't care less about onboard storage. I had it in my last vehicle but its user interface, and updating onboard storage felt very outdated. Using a small USB stick is way easier.
  • Oct 10, 2013
    efusco
    8000 songs goes a long way toward filling up the phone, add in photos, apps, documents and space gets tight and functionality slows. But I hear what you're saying. And certainly can do that most of the time.
  • Oct 10, 2013
    ggbjr
    I think a broader selection of apps and better support for phones (iOS in car) would be a perfect solution.
  • Oct 10, 2013
    Zextraterrestrial
    I really want to remove the phone support and icon from my car, please :smile:
    DSC00648.jpg
    I put a piece of Lacewood in my center area and went with Costco (sandisk) usbs that match the red piping.
  • Oct 10, 2013
    AnOutsider
    This is a perfectly fine solution, but doesn't it miss the point? A promised feature is MIA. You may not want or need it, but some do. It doesn't matter if there's a workaround. Those folks are looking for an answer from Tesla on a missing feature, not a "you're holding it wrong, do this instead".
  • Oct 11, 2013
    Argelius
    This is what I got. 64GB. USB 3.0. Metal housing. And tiny.

    Screen Shot 2013-10-11 at 11.43.15 AM.jpg
  • Oct 11, 2013
    jvonbokel
    Just curious, have you tried lowering the quality from best to medium? When I did that, I found that dead areas shrunk/disappeared, and personally, I didn't notice a substantial difference in the audio output quality. (Note: I'm sure others will disagree on the quality of the audio output at the lower setting.)
  • Oct 11, 2013
    efusco
    Yes, and that does work, but the sound quality is noticably horrible in that mode; and I don't think I have a particularly picky ear (I think XM sounds OK and there are hoards of people who complain that it sounds bad to them).

    So, for the most part, I just deal with it. 90% or better of my local driving area has adequate 3G coverage for my needs, so I live with the skipping or non-connection in the few areas where it is less reliable.
  • Oct 11, 2013
    brianman
    For the budget conscious, USB3 is definitely overkill for just playing music.
  • Oct 11, 2013
    Mayhemm
    You'd have to be pretty budget conscious; the difference is like $10. Personally, I'd get the USB 3.0 drive just in case I wanted to re-purpose it at some point.

    Besides, in that capacity USB 2.0 drives are rare and (mostly) more expensive.
  • Oct 12, 2013
    gregincal
    I think that's an unwarranted assumption. The actual music software is going to be identical whether the storage is internal or USB. There's absolutely nothing about internal storage that makes it easier to offer the features you are talking about. I imagine they'll support such things sooner or later.

    The only difference between USB and internal storage is how the music gets loaded. If you need to use a flash drive (as is likely) to update the internal storage, then the feature is truly useless. If they supported over the air syncing of your music, then it would be great, but I don't think they ever planned that (they certainly didn't ever suggest it).
  • Oct 12, 2013
    Argelius
    That I realize...but it will speed the transfer of music to the drive. Not a huge deal, but a plus.
  • Oct 12, 2013
    dsmith2189
    one additional difference is that with USB the user determines how the music is stored. In a single directory or in directories by artist, genre or other random cataloguing method.
    internal storage will allow a defined storage architecture which would allow more predictable indexing, searching and selecting of the users desired audio entertainment.
  • Oct 12, 2013
    gbdesai
    Isn't that more a function of the implementation? The Tesla music app could simply read and index all MP3 tags and achieve the same result from a USB drive regardless of how content is stored. That's what my Sonos system does at home. I store music however I want on a drive in the house and it creates an index that works independently of that structure.
  • Oct 12, 2013
    brianman
    ~$30-$40
    Amazon.com: 64gb flash drive

    vs.

    ~$40-$70
    Amazon.com: 64gb flash drive usb 3.0


    Anyway, just an observation.
  • Oct 27, 2013
    SarahsDad
    Sized down to this 32GB Sandisk Flash Drive - Fits nicely. Better than my earlier attempt (Post #19 above). IMG_2013.jpg
  • Oct 27, 2013
    JPP
    That's what I got--invisible and holds lots of tunes....
  • Oct 27, 2013
    gbdesai
  • Feb 8, 2014
    kevincwelch
    Now (or for however long) that the hard drive is not mentioned in the design studio, has the hard drive that was listed as part of the sound studio upgrade in the past no longer going to happen?
  • Feb 8, 2014
    Mayhemm
    I think it was mentioned some time ago (pre-FW 5.x) that Tesla had decided to re-appropriate the onboard storage and use it for offline caching of the Google maps.

    So, no. Onboard music storage is no longer happening.
  • Feb 8, 2014
    Mr X


    I have that USB as well, best one out there i think.
  • Feb 9, 2014
    kevincwelch
    I have these as well, and they work flawlessly. Kingston now makes a 64GB USB drive that is ever so slightly larger than the SanDisk ones that I think I'm going to pick up now that there is no longer a hard drive option.
  • Feb 9, 2014
    ModelS1079
    Music Quality: what is the best way to load the USb with music at the highest quality? Can this be done from iTunes or should we be loading CDs into the computer and then transfer? Looking for the best quality at reasonable level of effort.
  • Feb 9, 2014
    kevincwelch
    This depends on a number of factors. It depends on the quality of the source, obviously, but also the bit rate of the recording.

    I use iTunes to import all my music from CD, but I changed the default settings from 128 (160?) kbps AAC to 320 kbps mp3. Once you change this setting, importing music at high quality takes minimal effort.

    There are better ways, but perhaps a little more inconvenience.

    I just drag and drop files using Windows Explorer.
  • Feb 9, 2014
    jerry33
    It can't be done directly from iTunes because Tesla doesn't understand Apple Lossless and Apple doesn't understand FLAC. However, you can convert Apple Lossless to FLAC with programs like Max so you don't have to load the CDs. Or you can convert directly from CDs. There wouldn't be a difference in sound because either method is Lossless.
  • Feb 9, 2014
    aaron0k
    Has there been an official statement on this?
  • Feb 10, 2014
    capt601
    Same question? That would go against what I paid for
  • Feb 10, 2014
    kevincwelch
    I would say I'm miffed about it, but not sure I'd make a big deal about it...what could one do either way?
  • Feb 10, 2014
    aaron0k
    On-board storage was my deciding factor in opting for the Sound Package, if they can't deliver; I'd like my money back or equivalent (not a $20 USB drive).

    According to the specs on TeslaTap.com "Memory � 16 GB SD flash memory standard, 32 GB when equipped with Sound Studio/Ultra High Fidelity Sound"

    If this is the case, there should be at least 16gb left over on "Sound Studio" equipped for on-board storage? Were all MS's really equipped with 32gb boards and Tesla decided to use it all for caching map tiles?
  • Feb 10, 2014
    ACDriveMotor
  • Jun 3, 2014
    Runs Kwh
    Ditto on SanDisk. I ordered the 64 GB should have it later this week and then to figure out what music to put on it.

    I understand from the forums that a music shuffle isn't possible. Is that true?
  • Jun 3, 2014
    AnOutsider
    That's sadly true.
  • Jun 3, 2014
    Brightonuk
    Has anyone successfully tagged there Flac files I tired a couple using MP3tag but the car still only want to show a song list

    If you have tagged your play list which order did you tag the music

    Thanks
  • Jun 3, 2014
    jerry33
    That's true for now. Eventually it will come in an upgrade. I've found the best alternative is to mark songs as favourites. Then they will play in alphabetical order by song title. That works as long as the album doesn't start all the song titles with the same word.
  • Dec 10, 2014
    aaron0k
    Just want to bump this thread.

    Did Tesla ever make any good for advertising and selling but never delivering on-board storage for those who opted for the Studio Sound Package?

    I've been patient... however, the media player in the MS is crap. Period.

    No shuffle. No playlists. Ugly interface. Stuff an 2003 iPod could do. Is this because they can't index external media?

    At version 6.0... Tesla should be embarrassed; ... they have no excuses.
  • Dec 10, 2014
    dsm363
    There don't appear to be any plans for on board storage. A 128Gb thumb drive is down to $40 or so.

    The software is getting better just a matter of time and resources. They need more programmers it seems.
  • Dec 10, 2014
    aaron0k
    2 years later... I get they have no plans to deliver on-board storage.

    However, when I purchased my car, on-board storage was a highlighted bullet point in the package and a deciding factor for me. They never delivered. Shouldn't they provide something? Or even an official acknowledgement that it's never coming?


  • Dec 10, 2014
    dsm363
    They should tell people it is never coming. I honestly think it is better this way with USB drive. My guess is they would have put 32 or 64GB back then and you'd be stuck with that. This way in two years you'll get 256Gb for today's 128 price.

    The software does need a lot ok work in the media section. It is likely a low priority.
  • Dec 10, 2014
    aaron0k
    It really shouldn't be a low priority; shuffle/playlists/media covers are basic to all software media players and something we all probably use and interact with daily. It really shouldn't take a Dev more than a week to build in these features. Something seems off that they haven't added these features by now.

    I hope more owners start making noise on this subject. It should have been in 6.0.

    We need to stop making excuses for them.
  • Dec 10, 2014
    TexasEV
    They have. They said the onboard storage is being used to cache the maps, so they display faster. I use a low profile USB drive and it works fine. It's so small you don't even know it's there.
  • Dec 10, 2014
    dsm363
    I'm not making excuses for them. I'm not on their development team so have no idea why certain features haven't made the cut. If the hadn't added any feature in the last two years then yes but there have been a number of improvements in the last two years, just not every one that every single person wants.
  • Dec 10, 2014
    aaron0k
    Those who purchased the Sound Studio Package were supposedly getting more on-board system storage vs. non-Studio optioned vehicles (I believe 16gb vs 8gb). That extra storage was supposedly allocated for media... the Studio optioned vehicles are not caching more map tiles than any other MS as far as I can tell (anyone else?).

    So no; they've made no such statements as to how that extra storage on Studio optioned cars has been/or will be used as far I can find. Did Studio cars actually not come with increased memory on-board? Maybe all cars came with 16gb system boards?

    ... and playlists and shuffle are not hard to add to a Media Player. However they have the time to develop Name your Car, iOS Calendar integration and "Traffic Commute Advice"; useful to some, however I expect the majority of us would like a decent media player first.

    Is it possible there's a system limitation and we might never have the basics like playlists, shuffle, etc?


    If it's not every going to be available, they should come out say so... and maybe send those who ordered the Sound Studio Package an 8gb Tesla USB drive... or at least something?
  • Dec 11, 2014
    bob_p
    Across the Board, Tesla's software strategy appears to be to highlight the beautiful 17" display, provide minimal functionality in each of the apps - and then move onto to the next feature, with few improvements made to already existing features.

    It's difficult to find any justification why some of the basic functionality missing from the media playback and navigation systems still haven't been added - almost two and a half years after the first Model S was delivered.

    How hard can it really be to implement something like "repeat song" or "random playback"???

    The Model S onboard systems have so much potential for having the market leading infotainment system - and, at least so far, Tesla appears to be satisfied with having a great car, with a great display, and limited software.

    The limited software capabilities are my only major disappointment with my Model S after almost 2 years and 45K miles...
  • Dec 11, 2014
    JohnQ
    If the change in onboard storage is that important to you, make a request to ownership for some restitution.
  • Dec 11, 2014
    aaron0k
    I did in May... the response I received was "Unfortunately, we don�t have an update on the onboard music storage for the Studio Sound Package. "

    Then I sort of ? let it go... ? .

    I'm not looking for personal gain... whatever 'restitution' made should apply to all owners who ordered that option.

    I shall ask again and let everyone know.

    However, we should ALL contact them about adding basics like shuffle and playlists (or do I need to take out a full page Ad?). A rock only moves with pressure.
  • Dec 11, 2014
    JohnQ
    Please don't do that, I have two daughters and don't need that song rattling around in my head again :tongue:
  • Dec 11, 2014
    aaron0k
    You know it's already too late... ? Can't hold it back any mooooore... ? .

    I'm not advocating a "repeat song" button.

  • Dec 11, 2014
    majorlance
    +1. Just give me shuffle mode on the USB drives!
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