Jan 1, 2016
Cosmacelf I picked up my Model X late Wednesday the 30th at the factory. The idea was to repeat what I did three years ago when I also picked up my Model S from the factory, did a factory tour and immediately drove it about 500 miles back to San Diego.
This time around, I arrived 1/2 hour late for the tour(!), and initially they said sorry, too late for the tour. They then looked at their screen, saw that I was an early Model S buyer, Model X sig owner, and were kind enough to give me a private tour! Nothing special, same stuff everyone else gets, just talking faster in a golf cart.
The tour has changed a bit in three years! Back then we got to walk around, on catwalks, take our time. The tour now, you are in a long electric cart bus and you are driven to a few areas. My tour time was 4pm, in between shift changes, so the factory was idle. Ugh. Boring. Three years ago I got to see all the robots and workers operating.
I started the trip at 6pm and rolled into the house at 3:30am. Needless to say, I was a bit tired at the end. Autopilot saved me. Except for a stretch of 5 freeway through downtown Los Angeles which is under perpetual construction, autopilot drove all the way on the highways and freeways. It takes a lot less energy and you get a lot less tired driving with autopilot than you do normally. Very, very impressive, and massively useful.
Compared to my original 3 year old P85 Model S, the Model X has a tighter suspension. It rides stiffer (slight negative), but handles cornering much better. No floaty feel that I would sometime get on my Model S. Combined with the way more comfortable seats, the Model X is a nicer ride.
The windshield makes you feel like you're in a helicopter bubble. Just wild. However, I'm not sure about it yet. I haven't had much time during the day with it, and even so, we only have the winter sun right now. How will it work with the blaring hot summer sun? I suspect I'll get a heat rejecting "clear" windshield tint added for extra sun protection. I put that on my Model S and feel that it makes a difference. I have more headroom in the Model X compared to the Model S.
The third row seats work well for kids and small adults. I've got longish legs and felt cramped back there. There is good headroom though.
The P90D Model X (without ludicrous) feels like it has more pep and acceleration than my P85. And unlike loaner P90D Model S cars that I've driven, you can barely hear the front motor in the Model X.
At one point in my journey, a car in front of me had some sort of exhaust issue and billowed out a huge, and I mean huge, cloud of noxious crap which I drove right through. In a normal car, I would have breathed that crap for miles. With the Model X, even without bio weapon mode on, I could barely smell it.
I was worried about the front row central console in the Model X. My model S doesn't have anything and I appreciate the empty space to hold my iPad, hat, and assorted crap. But I think the Model X console will work for me.
The frunk is quite a bit smaller than my original Model S. And no, it cannot hold a golf bag. A standard length driver just just fits across it. This is offset by the deeper storage well and higher overall storage in the back. Also, you really could fit duffle bags under the second row seats if you needed to pack things in.
Overall, I'm quite happy with my Model X. I need the 7 seats for the kid's team pickups, I like the better ride, the higher driving height, the amazing autopilot, the refined power, etc. The only real negative is the second row seats. They take too long to move in and out of position for third row access, and, of course, they don't fold flat. But overall, I'm thrilled!�
Jan 1, 2016
rdalcanto Nice review. Thanks!�
Jan 1, 2016
Footbag Insightful post, thanks for sharing, and enjoy the X!!!�
Jan 1, 2016
techmaven Pics or it didn't happen! :smile:
How is the ride for passengers? Do they feel it is stiffer?
Thanks and congrats.�
Jan 1, 2016
Vitold Thanks for the write-up. Since you mentioned 'enjoying' Bioweapon mode - how noisy is it (fan noise)?�
Jan 1, 2016
Cosmacelf I didn't have bio weapon mode on. I said that even without it, I could barely smell the cloud of crap I drove through.�
Jan 1, 2016
ohmman Thanks, Cosmacelf. I share your concerns about the center console, so I'll be interested to hear how you adjust (or don't) over time. I am leaning towards a 6-seat configuration to provide another method of 3rd row access - but it's interesting to hear that the seats are a bit slow. I wonder if that's something that could be worked around with a software tweak - not the motor speed, but some way to signal to the fob (triple click for instance) that you want the doors open AND the 3rd row exposed. Both the door and seats could start moving simultaneously, earning you a little time.
I will look forward to your continued updates, if you're willing to provide them. I am in a similar situation to you having a 'classic' P85 MS and looking at a MX.�
Jan 1, 2016
Cosmacelf But of course! Here it is in my fairly low ceiling garage. Falcon wing doors open just fine.
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Jan 1, 2016
anticitizen13.7 Good to know that headroom has improved in Model X vs. Model S in all 3 rows. During my test drive of a Model S, I did feel that headroom was a bit restricted even compared to my Honda Civic (no moonroof).
Between the extra headroom and improved interior quality, I believe that Model X could easily outsell Model S in the near future.�
Jan 1, 2016
ohmman "Fairly low ceiling" -- Can you tell us how low? From the photo, it looks like a 9' (I have an 8'). More importantly, how high is your garage door in that photo?
I was strongly leaning towards pearl white on white seats.. but that silver may change my mind.�
Jan 1, 2016
X Fan Congrats and appreciate the insight.
What size tires did you go with? Also, the seats are White? Softer than the leather versions but still very supportive? Do you sense they will hold up for many years?�
Jan 1, 2016
jeffreys Cosmacelf,
Congrats on your X! One thought occurs to me looking at that photo: It looks like the FWD stopped short of full extension because of the presence of the garage door. But what if that door were closed? Would the FWD then open into a space the garage door would occupy if you opened it?�
Jan 1, 2016
K-MTG Congrats on the XI would like to know how effective is the tint on the panoramic windshield and skylights on the FWD. Does it do an adequate job in preventing sunlight from entering the cabin? My family is sensitive to sunlight and we never open the sunroofs in any of our cars.
We always have sun in SoCal, appreciate it if you can post photos or an experience that shows the effectiveness of the tint
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Jan 1, 2016
CarlK That's a very nice write up. Could you answer a couple questions for me? What are tires on you S P85 and X? Also some mentioned the center 2nd row seat would completely block the rear view. How do you feel about that? Thanks in advance.�
Jan 1, 2016
Jool Very cool, thanks for sharing your thoughts! Hopefully I'll get to see it out and about sometime :smile:�
Jan 1, 2016
Pjjava34 What a beauty!
Same seat and paint config as mine. Love it, our hesitation has been with the white seats and young kids but we love the color too much. How does the quality look? Do you think it'll stain easily?
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Jan 1, 2016
Cosmacelf Its a 9' ceiling in the pic and 7'6" to lowest part of garage door.�
Jan 1, 2016
Vitold Thanks, I should not have assumed that you've tried both... In another thread someone claimed that BioWeapon Mode was very noisy so I was curious your take on it.�
Jan 1, 2016
SMSMD MaxK reported some serious blind spot issues and rear-view mirror visibility in his 6 seater. In your 7 seater does the middle seat in the second row obstruct the visibility from the rear-view mirror?�
Jan 1, 2016
moviemaker2000 If you had the garage door closed, opened the FWD, and then opened the garage door, would the black metal bar that attaches the garage door to the track run into the FWD?�
Jan 1, 2016
Cosmacelf Yeah, if I knew I wasn't going to need 7 seats from time to time, that's what I would have done - just gone with 6. The middle seat is a bit compromised in that you can't sit there and use the second row cup holders at the same time. I haven't seen a 6 seat config, but it would seem to make sense that you'd have good access to the third row without the middle seat.�
Jan 1, 2016
aesculus Great writeup. Is the air suspension not able to adjust your ride comfort as well as height? Perhaps you have not had a chance to try various stiffness settings yet?�
Jan 1, 2016
Cosmacelf I went with 20" - I had 19" on my Model S. Yes, seats are white, they feel nice, supportive. Who knows how well they will hold up! I've got kids, so I'll be putting them through the torture test...
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Yeah, the Model S rear view wasn't great, the Model X is worse. Not very useful since you don't know what you're missing as far as being able to see or not see.
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Does it have stiffness settings??? I haven't seen that...�
Jan 1, 2016
AMN Thanks for the review! How was energy consumption during your 500-mile drive back?�
Jan 1, 2016
ohmman So as a point of reference, I have an 8' ceiling but my garage door itself is at 7'8". The rails for my door are at 7'3", and those would be the lowest obstruction for the doors. Next time you're out there just chilling with a tape measure (!) and feel like stopping the doors a few inches shy of your door (7 footish), I'd love to know how much clearance there is under the door. You know, just in your free time. :roll eyes:
I'm going to add your reference to the garage doors thread I started a while back, FYI.
Edit: This one's easy - did the doors stop early in your garage, or were they fully opened?�
Jan 1, 2016
Larry Thanks for the thorough write up. My question is in comparing the S to the X is the X a lot easier to get in and out of from the drivers seat? I'm tall with creaky knees and the S is a little bit of an issue when getting out.
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Jan 1, 2016
Cosmacelf The FW doors do stop early in my garage. Still lots of space under the doors, so if they had to stop even earlier for a lower high garage, I think it would be fine.
Btw the front doors are pretty cool. They have infinite detents meaning that that they stay open at any angle as opposed to most cars that have just a few open positions. The software doesn't yet auto open upon approach but they have a cool auto close feature. Just press on the brake in the drivers seat and it closes.�
Jan 1, 2016
moviemaker2000 Do you think they are stopping because they detect the rails, or the black "J" shaped bar that pulls the garage door up and down that hangs a couple of inches below the rail? I am wondering what would happen if the kids open the FWD in a closed garage and then someone puts up the garage door opener while the FWD are in the open position. Would the FWD be low enough so the black "J" shaped bar on the garage door doesn't scrape across the open FWD as the garage door moves up the track?�
Jan 1, 2016
rdalcanto If someone opens my garage door after the tailgate on my Jeep is open there will be serious damage. It would be pretty careless to open a garage door if the FWD are up. Most likely the design of your garage will determine if the FWD open high enough to be hit by a garage door opened after the fact.�
Jan 1, 2016
moviemaker2000 It has happened several times where the kids are getting in one car in the closed garage because of the cold weather and the other driver is arriving home and opens the garage door while pulling in the driveway not knowing someone is loading into the other car.�
Jan 1, 2016
Cosmacelf Another thing I noticed today while driving around - the default ride height is higher than the Model S ride height - there is more ground clearance. Places that I would have scraped the bottom of the Model S are clear on the Model X.�
Jan 1, 2016
SMSMD Was your air suspension at low, high or very high at this time.thanks for your excellent information.�
Jan 1, 2016
ohmman One thing you can do, assuming your garage door is properly installed and moves smoothly, is mess with the tension control on the opener. It's possible to make it very sensitive to resistance, and damage would be pretty unlikely.
My 1970s wooden garage doors sadly require quite a bit of leeway in tension control because they hang up here and there. So I don't have as much wiggle room on that front. I still doubt there'd be much damage. Just put your hand in the way of the door while it's opening and see how much it takes to reverse.�
Jan 1, 2016
mikevbf I am surprised to hear this about the frunk. i thought the Model X was supposed to have a larger frunk. Do you think the non performance version will have a larger frunk? I am glad to hear about the extra space around the seats in the second row. Since I will also end up with the 7 seat version, I am sure I will use this on longer road trips quite often. Thanks for sharing such practical comments with us all.�
Jan 1, 2016
Cosmacelf The default appears to be low on the Model X. There is also a very low setting, but that only occurs at speed.�
Jan 1, 2016
SMSMD Thanks that great news.
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Jan 1, 2016
Cosmacelf Well, the Model X has a larger frunk than the tiny Model S dual motor frunk, but it isn't as large as the original Model S frunk, as that also had that hidden cube storage towards the driver.
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No doubt awful. I drive fast (even with autopilot) and temps were from 32 to 45.�
Jan 1, 2016
SMSMD Thanks again for very very useful info you are posting and answering all our questions.When you have time and if you can post photos of the trunk/Cargo space will be very much appreciated...I saw some from Bonnie's photos of Low, flush and high positions of trunk space but could not appreciate the potential space within. I have 3 Kids and cargo space is very important. I am thinking of Thule transporter 665C to the tow hitch if need be. Frunk is always a bonus in tesla.�
Jan 1, 2016
ankitmishra Congrats!! Thank you for helping people out and explaining about the car. It makes an interesting topic to read.�
Jan 1, 2016
DaveT Hi Cosmacelf, can you talk some about the driving dynamics of your X vs your P85? Does the increased height and weight of the Model X compromise the handling at all (vs your P85)?�
Jan 1, 2016
Cosmacelf My X appears to drive better than my 3 year old Model S. The extra height doesn't seem to affect driveability at all. But bear in mind that I don't have much experience in a new Model S P85D with the stiffer suspension, so others with that kind of experience can better answer that question. But compared to an original Model S, it drives better.�
Jan 2, 2016
Spidy Here is a picture from the frunk with one golfbag
http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=106162&d=1451705274
Source: Received our Sig X on New Years Eve!�
Jan 2, 2016
ecarfan Note how the driver(s) are removed from the bag and placed behind it so the bag will fit. Regardless, I think it is fair to say that a golf club bag will fit in the X frunk.�
Jan 2, 2016
Cosmacelf OK, so, yes, I guess a golf bag can fit in the frunk IF you take out the driver and place it beside the bag (I just tested it). The 3 wood (with cover) is a big snug in the bag, but it will work if you are careful.
And it looks like the falcon wing doors will open up higher if the garage doors are closed. I opened the FWDs with the garage door closed and then opened the garage door. Interestingly, the car beeped at me just before the garage door was about to hit the FWD (I stopped the garage door before that happened and right after the beep). Hard to see angles in this picture but I stopped the garage door about 5 inches before that right angle aluminum piece would have hit the FWD.
And here's an overview shot. Even If the doors didn't have that leading angle bar, I believe the door's horizontal aluminum braces would have hit the FWDs as well.
This behavior is no different than what happens when you open a normal liftgate. You gotta be careful. At least the car beeps telling you the garage door is about to collide...
Now Tesla (and other manufacturers) DO have a liftgate height adjustment (which I have to use for when the garage doors are open) to restrict the opening height of the liftgate. In an ideal world, there would be a FWD opening height adjustment and a liftgate height adjustment that were tied to GPS, so at home, it wouldn't open either too high.
As a sidenote, a GPS aware rear liftgate max. height adjustment would be really nice. The height I have to restrict it to is a tad too short for my head, as in I'm in danger of banging my head against it when I'm loading stuff into it. It is what it is in the garage, but outdoors in a shopping parking lot, it would be nice if the liftgate would open all the way.�
Jan 2, 2016
ohmman I like it. Might as well do the same with the falcon wing doors as well. We have the same issue, low setting for our garage but would appreciate more space out and about.
The difference between lift gates and doors is that when you're getting something out of the trunk, you're probably right there. If you're letting your kids out of the doors, it's not as obvious. Plus, you suddenly have three doors to worry about instead of just one. Not sure it'll matter, but just saying they're not completely analogous.
Thanks for the continued garage notes.�
Jan 2, 2016
Cosmacelf Couple more minor things. The frunk hood can now be closed with one hand. It is shallower than the Model S frunk hood front the back, not as big.
Trunk lighting is still an issue, sigh.
The front windshield is going to bug me. I'm going to have to get a light tint applied to the whole windshield.
It is much easier getting in and out of the front seat than the Model S - the car sits higher.�
Jan 2, 2016
jlake02
Ever since I first saw the X that was my thought as well... it's TOO much open glass, especially in sunny CA. I'm sure others may disagree, but I'm pretty sure I wouldn't like it.�
Jan 2, 2016
K-MTG I agree, Elon mentioned that a sunshade would come with each Model X. I am still waiting for it...�
Jan 2, 2016
Cosmacelf Yeah, if you need a sunshade, then what's the point of the glass? The windshield and the second row seats are design fails IHMO. Kind of a shame...�
Jan 2, 2016
EarlyAdopter If I were you, I'd wrap that angle brace in some padding.�
Jan 2, 2016
Cosmacelf Good idea...�
Jan 2, 2016
aesculus Windshield: cool :love:
Second row seats: not :cursing:�
Jan 2, 2016
EarlyAdopter I speak from experience, having learned the hard way. (#savedbyxpel)
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Jan 2, 2016
Cobra Kai Cosmacelf, would everything be clear if you backed into the garage instead?
I ask this because I always back my vehicle into my garage. I have a 3 car garage and my spot is the middle bay. I'm trying to imagine how the X will look in that spot versus what is in there now (Santa Fe Sport). Currently, with that specific SUV backed in, it looks like where the FWD open up it would be clear of the rails and the opener. This is how I plan on parking my X in the garage. My X will be the same height as the Santa Fe, but about 13 inches longer and bit wider.�
Jan 2, 2016
K-MTG I wouldn't call it a design failure but I would consider it to be a matter of preference. I would like a sunshade to be available for those sunny days in the summer and here in SoCal pretty much every day is a sunny day.
Elon mentioned in his tweet a sunshade would come with each car, but it appears that the sigs did not get one so I would assume we would see it in the tesla accessory shop soon?�
Jan 3, 2016
Xpress Can you share some pictures of the storage space in the rear with seats up and with them folded? How much space is back there? Do the third row seats fold flat (and independently?), is there room under the seats for longer items - like skis?�
Jan 3, 2016
CarlK Having used pano roof for 2 years I don't have any concern over the windshield even without any sun shades being offered. A tint film would be another easy solution if one has problem with sun/heat and does not want to be bothered with using the shade although I doubt it will be needed.�
Jan 4, 2016
ck1116 How's the wind/road noise compare to Model S?
Is it really quieter?�
Jan 4, 2016
MrBoylan But with a normal lift date on a regular car, the lift gate has no idea that the garage door is coming to whack it so the lift gate is toast. With the Model X, the beeping shows that the car is aware of the impending collision. So it would be possible (software update?) for the car to move the FWDs out of the way in an impending collision like this. You should request this new feature from Tesla.
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Jan 4, 2016
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Jan 4, 2016
Cosmacelf So, yes, just for you, I tried it. When I back into the garage, the falcon wing doors clear the garage doors. I have to back in a few inches more to clear the garage door motor, so ymmv.
Note that the FWD completely ignored the attic pull rope I have.
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Jan 4, 2016
MrBoylan Thanks so much, Cosmacelf, for sharing your impressions!
Have you had any middle or rear seat passengers in the car for long trips? We do an 800-mile trip twice a year and a 300-mile trip many times a year. Would love to get a sense of how comfortable (or not) the 2nd and 3rd row seats are for longer trips and potential sleeping kids (or adults!). Since the middle row seats have a fixed angle of seat bottom to seat back, without the ability to recline (though I understand they do tilt slightly back), I'm wondering how comfortable passengers will be for extended periods in them.
Thanks!
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Jan 4, 2016
Cosmacelf Haven't done extended trips with passengers, but so far people have told me that the second row seats are more comfortable than the original Model S seats. Reclining isn't really an option with the second and third row seats. Sleeping horizontally across the second row seats doesn't work either since they are so sculptured.
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By the way, I drove right past a roadkill skunk today and had to strain to smell anything at all, all on auto climate mode. Very impressive. I turned on bioweapon mode just for fun and it puts the fan to 11, so too noisy for normal use.�
Jan 4, 2016
ABCCBA If a conventional garage door opener and chain system is a concern, consider a $500 Liftmaster jackscrew opener. In anticipation of my MX P90D, I installed these on my two garage doors and they are amazing. Liftmaster 8500 Jackshaft Complete Install - YouTube�
Jan 4, 2016
Cosmacelf Those do look cool. Other than no motor in the middle of the garage ceiling, why did you call it amazing?�
Jan 4, 2016
ohmman I've had these in previous homes. They're pretty great from a noise perspective as well, and they generally have locking lugs that insert themselves into the tracks in the doors.
That said, I don't think the overhead motor is much of a limiting factor in the falcon wing doors. At least with a 7' door, you're probably looking at overhead tracks somewhere around 7'3" - 7'6" and those are likely to be your main obstructions.�
Jan 4, 2016
EarlyAdopter Hmmm, but without the need for the drive shaft for the opener above the opened garage door, you could raise your tracks up closer to the ceiling. Could gain another 4 - 5" of headroom easily.
Actually seems like a _great_ option.�
Jan 4, 2016
ohmman Good point. I'm thinking about my low ceilings, but you're absolutely right. If you have clearance, it might help quite a bit.�
Jan 4, 2016
EarlyAdopter I have a 7 foot tall door (84") with 8 foot ceilings (96") in the garage. Currently my tracks are at 88". Model X FaWD need 90" of clearance above to open fully. It looks like I could raise my tracks 4" more to 92" with a lift system like this, which would still leave 4" of clearance above the opened garage door for the exterior handle and 2" of room above the FaWD. This would solve my height clearance problems totally.
Now, I just need to cope with the fact that my doors are only 8 feet wide (96"), and the Model X mirror-tip to mirror-tip is 89". That leaves only 2.5" of margin on either side for pulling in. Sure, we could press the button to fold in the mirrors every time we pull into the garage, but the mirrors auto-extend when turning the car back on, so we'd also have to push the button after putting the car in gear to reverse twice. That's too much hassle.
Tesla needs to geo-fence mirror activation like they do air suspension activation. Or tie it to Homelink garage door open/close button presses - press the garage door open button and the mirrors cycle. Fold in if they are out. Fold out if they were in.�
Jan 5, 2016
bobbykansara This may be a stupid question; forgive me as I am not a Tesla owner yet. But since the charging port is at the rear of the car, do people have to back in to the garage to charge the car at home?
I have a 3 car garage and was planning to put the charger in the middle stall. Bad idea? Better to utilize one of the side stalls and mount the charger on a side wall so I don't have to back in? Or non-issue?�
Jan 5, 2016
Vizir
http://www.teslamotors.com/sites/default/files/downloads/universalmobileconnector_nema_14-50.pdf�
Jan 5, 2016
AMN In most cases, you have to involve an electrician to either install an 80A wall charger or a 40A outlet. I had ours run conduits on each side of the garage almost to the garage door. It costs money but so worth it both functionally and aesthetically. If you are bored, you can come take a look. I am on Lake of the Isles.
Cheers!
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Jan 5, 2016
madodel Great idea. I will need this as well. I'm passing it onto my DS. Be good if others did as well.�
Jan 5, 2016
andrewket My EVSEs are mounted at the rear of the garage, but even if they were in the front, an HPWC cord is ~21 ft long.�
Jan 5, 2016
bobbykansara Thanks, andrewket and Vizir! This is exactly the info I needed. (BTW great win by the Jayhawks last night! Epic! Rock chalk....!)
@AMN: wow! Thanks for the offer! I might take you up on it! Do you have your X yet?�
Jan 5, 2016
ABCCBA 
Vizir, we installed ours in the center back wall of the garage. The cord can reach to any bay of the garage. We have always backed in all of our cars into our garages. It is much safer! Also, in this garage, we have installed Liftmaster screwdrive motors that mount on the side on the door, at the spring. There are no motors or chains or bars above. Now, we are just waiting on our MX P90D. Confirmed 12/15/2015.
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Jan 5, 2016
ohmman Nice looking garage. Just a note - I'm assuming you're saying it's safer because you don't have to back out into traffic. If you have a turnaround in your driveway, I don't believe there's any safety benefit to backing in vs. pulling into a garage.�
Jan 5, 2016
ABCCBA ohmman - we back into our garage because it is safer when you go to leave, as you won't accidentally back over toys, pets or kids. We have a circular driveway, so traffic is not a concern. It is a thing I learned years ago - avoid backing up if at all possible. What is funny, is that there was a news article on one of the wires the other day that said most Americans park the wrong way. They say we shouldn't be pulling into a parking spot. Instead we should back up or pulling through upon arrival, so that you can exit going. This is also taught in a lot of commercial driver's training/safety courses.�
Jan 5, 2016
ecarfan Mike, the Tesla rear view wide angle back up camera may change the way you park. [emoji6]�
Jan 5, 2016
PeterK It changed the way I park - made it easier and more precise to pull up and then back into spaces, or to pull through and stop when the center line is just visible.�
Jan 5, 2016
BillC Took delivery of our Sig X on the 29th and I can echo Cosmacelf's first impressions. Interior and exterior are pure perfection. Traded in our Model S for the X. Only complaint is the sun-visor is a little funky to use. Autopilot is fantastic. Drove from Fremont to Pasadena, 90% on Autopilot.�
Jan 9, 2016
Ldub22 @Cosmacelf,
Hey, I'm finalizing my order on Sunday, and you have the only Ultra White Seats car I have seen (Beautiful color combo!), could you post some interior pictures, please?
No one at Tesla can give us any info and we are really torn.
Also, any impressions as to the seats themselves, whether the cooling works well, and what you think of the Premium Package details. I have a P85D, and this will be my wife's 1st Tesla, and she just needs to see what she is ordering. Going to be a Tesla family!
Thanks!�
Jan 10, 2016
bobbykansara On the official tesla forum, a user by the name of 'kittylitter' is a sig X owner in Seattle area who has ultra-white seats and also Sig. Red exterior. He has posted a few photos if you look for threads about Seattle. Also, there is a Facebook page called 'Model X Owners group' or something like that. Ask to be let into the group; kittylitter has posted many photos under his real name there as well.
And FWIW, I was at the launch event on 9/29/15. Until then, I would never in a million years have considered the white seats. But when I saw ultra-white in a real X, I was hooked. They not only look spectacular, but it feels much more luxurious and softer than most leathers. As such, I ordered the ultra-white for myself. Up until that point, I never believed that synthetic leather could ever top real leather's feel. But this was a game-changer for me. Good luck!�
Jan 10, 2016
ohmman I really appreciate this feedback. I wasn't at the event, and haven't seen the white in person. The reason I ordered the ultra white is because of the feedback from members of this forum, who seem to have overwhelmingly positive things to say about it. I'm slightly apprehensive about the cleaning aspect, but I do trust all of your great information.
Thanks again.�
Jan 10, 2016
Cosmacelf There is no doubt the white is soft and luxurious. Whether it is durable and stain resistant, only time will tell...�
Jan 11, 2016
spentan Is there really any benefit to going with the White seats instead of the Tan Leather (apart from the color of course)?
Personally I think that the Tan with Black headliner, figured ash wood, and Sig Red Exterior look like the best combo. As much as its all down to personal taste, I can't see any benefit to going with the Synthetic White seats instead of the tan leather.�
Jan 11, 2016
Vizir I have seen a few threads where others mention that tan showed wear the most in the model S. I am going with the ultra white since it's synthetic leather so it should not require the maintenance of leather while being easy to clean, esp with small children around. If you have the time to detail and take care of the seats a couple of times a year (or yearly at a minimum) then I don't think it matters and you can go with what you like. I love the Sig Red, black headliner and tan interior combo too. While the ultra white goes well with white exterior.�
Jan 11, 2016
PeterK I've had my S since March 2013 with 5 kids now ages 7 to 20 over 40,000 miles on tan seats. They have held up very well. If I look closely I can find a few scratches and a scuff, but probably nothing a visit to a detailer wouldn't take care of (I've had the outside detailed but no special care other than vacuuming and wiping spills on the inside). The standard light headliner, on the other hand, has more marks and some visible wear. So I'm sticking with tan seats but black headliner in my titanium X. I like the figured ash but have been very happy with matte Obeche in my S so kept it on the X. I think it picks up on the tan and black tones and has an edgier look which fits the X, vs the ash which projects traditional luxury to me.�
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