Jan 2, 2014
andyeung What do you think of this grill design?�
Jan 2, 2014
ecarfan Not for me. Too much like an ICE car.�
Jan 2, 2014
GDH no!�
Jan 2, 2014
passion4audio nope.�
Jan 2, 2014
gaswalla No.�
Jan 2, 2014
MrIanB Hell no, this is not a Ford, period!!
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Jan 2, 2014
Chris TX 
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Jan 2, 2014
AMPd NO!�
Jan 2, 2014
Canuck Maybe........... NOT!�
Jan 2, 2014
artsci Not a chance.�
Jan 2, 2014
Thumper No Thank You.�
Jan 2, 2014
purplewalt ....and in Conclusion:
NO�
Jan 2, 2014
MS4tennis Does the grill look include a faux exhaust pipe fot the rear end?�
Jan 2, 2014
bonnie (Guys, guys, guys ... his FIRST post! Manners!)
Andyeung, welcome to TMC. It's a bit of a rough crowd, but they all mean well.
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Jan 2, 2014
efusco no way�
Jan 2, 2014
Raffy.Roma + 1�
Jan 2, 2014
stevezzzz Nice try, Bonnie.
...and to the OP: no, thank you.�
Jan 2, 2014
AlMc Andy: Appreciate your efforts but I would also not be interested.�
Jan 2, 2014
MikeL I like it because it makes a weird electro-zebra effect when I move the picture around on the iPad. Yes, I am VERY easily entertained. :tongue:�
Jan 2, 2014
bonnie shaking my head.�
Jan 2, 2014
Mhotep No. Doesn't look right.�
Jan 2, 2014
efusco Sorry, didn't notice it was his first post and missed your post.
Let me buffer my post by saying that I think we all appreciate new ideas, but a "retro" grill that was a necessity for an internal combustion vehicle then it's something we'd gladly leave in the past. We have seen some pretty interesting grill designs out there (search for a thread about a year old on the subject) that take advantage of the fact that we do not need air flowing through a grill to cool a radiator. It actually allows for quite a lot of creativity that was never possible in an ICE vehicle before.�
Jan 2, 2014
bonnie �
Jan 2, 2014
wts13 Negative ghost rider�
Jan 2, 2014
tomanik Looking forward to an improved front end or grill but sorry, this is not it.�
Jan 2, 2014
NoMoGas No way.�
Jan 2, 2014
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Jan 2, 2014
khans I actually kinda like it - cross between a Rapide and a Maserati (or a Ford
Can you do one with vertical slats - I bet it will look even better.�
Jan 2, 2014
J1mbo I thought the design was just painted on rather than being an actual grill. Looks ok to me.
FWIW, frontal air intake is not just an ICE thing. MS couldn't work without it either.�
Jan 2, 2014
palmer_md Ok, scrap your plans for fabricating and selling these...boy tough crowd. But I agree, I don't like the faux grille look on the Tesla.�
Jan 3, 2014
ABVA No, will make Tesla look like an ICE. only Mod I am waiting for my grill is a "lighted T" from ARTSCI,
Lighted Tesla T Pre-order List�
Jan 3, 2014
AustinPowers True, and no offence meant to Andyeung, but he specifically asked us what we think of the design. And the overwhelming majority seems to dislike it.
Add me to the "no thank you" crowd. Imho that grille looks too ICE, and too Ford Mondeo...�
Jan 3, 2014
PV4EV
I remember that thread from Dec 2012 and contributed some hand-drawn (ie, not 3D rendered) ideas for 'fake grills' and front end mods. I realise air flow into a grill is not needed, and keeping the Cd low is important, but I really like my mod #3 below that removes the gaping chrome surround.
Peoples views may have changed now that there are about 30,000 MS's out in the wild, but here's the original artwork again :-
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Jan 3, 2014
KaJu74 I would only get the Front "grill" in Carbon.�
Jan 3, 2014
sjoshuaj I think most people would prefer just scrapping the gapping fish mouth altogether. Much more arrow dynamic.
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Jan 3, 2014
djp The original prototype had an understated grill and vents. I can understand why Tesla went for a more distinctive look, but it wasn't a popular decision when they changed it.
Alpha Hits the Road | Blog | Tesla Motors�
Jan 3, 2014
StephenM
I like this one!!�
Jan 3, 2014
artsci I've never seen that design but I'm thankful Tesla build it.
No offense intended but in the age of Photoshop everybody's become a designer. But none of us is as good as Franz. I'm thankful for his very creative and graceful eye.�
Jan 3, 2014
lolachampcar No thank you.�
Jan 3, 2014
yobigd20 I always thought that design change was required due to some regulation about having replaceable bumpers or something like that? I don't remember where I read that but I was always under the impression that was the reason... And a similar question to this, does anyone know why the sigs had that two piece nose cone that stuck out a few inches ? Same reasoning?�
Jan 3, 2014
gg_got_a_tesla The change to the vents and the now-protruded lower diffuser was apparently to comply with Canadian laws regarding low-speed collisions with pedestrians; to make the impact lower down at the shins rather than up at the knees.
The Signature fat lip was originally meant for easy access to the 12V battery terminals, I think. The new single piece nose cone comes off nicely with the technique that wormhole posted sometime ago (press down on the two chrome/plastic plates on the lip under the frunk).�
Jan 3, 2014
nrcooled I look at this design and think "the EV1 was already built why do it again". The same thought goes to the black design too.�
Jan 3, 2014
roblab Bonnie, I hope you get paid for this.�
Jan 3, 2014
bonnie Only in entertainment value. And new friendships.
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Jan 3, 2014
Plug Me In No thanks ---> Ford Taurus
Carbon fiber would get a second look from me.�
Jan 3, 2014
yobigd20 nice catch, the bottom half would have looks nearly identical to the ford taurus. then again, thats the re-designed ford taurus, which isn't actually too bad looking. I was quite impressed with their redesign (I'd still never buy one though haha).
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Jan 3, 2014
vfx Franz�
Jan 3, 2014
sjoshuaj Actually, I'd say it would better resemble a porsche.
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Jan 3, 2014
gg_got_a_tesla This'd be a great look for Gen 3! Franz has said that he doesn't prefer the "unit face" approach across the fleet a la Audi so, hopefully, we get a departure from the MS's "fish mouth" for Model E.�
Jan 3, 2014
aaron0k I thought it's a bumper strength regulation that mandates the bumper can take a 2.5mph impact without damage (or less than $500 to repair). The cone effectively being a plastic bumper that can be replaced for under $500. I suppose if it were to have a more elaborate design, it would be more costly to replace.�
Jan 3, 2014
austinEV Geez, for what its worth I think the OP's idea isn't bad. I for one don't like the fish mouth at all, and I am anxiously awaiting some aftermarket option of modification. I think if the fake grill pointed down in a slight chevron it would follow the lines of the car more logically. The horizontal lines are the problem that jumps out at you. But breaking up the black gape is a fix that needs made.
Off topic, but I have never understood the chrome strips on the bottom of the doors either. It breaks up the flow for no good reason.�
Jan 3, 2014
Gwgan But then it will look like a Buick LeSabre�
Jan 3, 2014
AmpedRealtor If I wanted a Ford Taurus I would have bought one and saved myself a lot of money...�
Jan 3, 2014
PokerBroker I bought one of these redesigned Tauruses and it is a fantastic car, better than many imports I've driven. It is huge like the MS and makes my Roadster look like a little baby car.
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Jan 3, 2014
AmpedUP @PV4EV....great designs. I'd go for them. The front "nose cone" is the weakest part of the production MS design. If the notion is that any grill at all is prehistoric ICE crap, then there should be nothing at all, like the Avanti. I don't think air intake features will disappear with newer EV car designs...don't forget, the humans inside need fresh air, and grills are still form following function, even if just for that reason.�
Jan 3, 2014
TurboFroggy 
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Jan 3, 2014
Grendal As someone else mentioned there used to be small grills where those two small pieces went. They probably found out that extra air was not needed and went to solid pieces. Finally they figured that lots of pieces = more chance for failure and is more complex to assemble and finally went to the one piece nose cone. That's my take on it.
A while back there was a company doing an Aston style grill for the S. I remember the designer came by the site with a few pix to test people's reception to it. It was a lot more positive than this grill because a few did like it.�
Jan 4, 2014
spentan
Looks like a Maserati,
Not keen at all,�
Jan 4, 2014
muleferg Studebaker EV. Nice grille. Nice car
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Jan 4, 2014
Nichen Sorry but I gotta say no to that.�
Jan 4, 2014
brianman Reminds me of an Audi R8 (which is a good thing).
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Don't forget to tip your moderators.�
Jan 4, 2014
vfx Franz told me at the LA store open that is was the pedestrian rule that he had to conform to.�
Jan 4, 2014
Canuck Damn... now that's all I see when I look at the car!�
Jan 4, 2014
Velo1 Ford Focus look.�
Jan 4, 2014
JaredBanyard Trolllllll�
Jan 4, 2014
bonnie We're pretty careful about using that word around here ... yes, a new member & he hasn't been back (and who would blame him after the *warm welcome* he received). But we have a lot of people showing up at the moment from diff countries, very enthusiastic about Tesla. 'Welcoming' is probably the word to remember.�
Jan 4, 2014
tdelta1000 Like so many have said before...No.�
Jan 5, 2014
J1mbo Mod 3 gets my vote- this, fully de-chromed (not just the front end), would look fantastic on a P.�
Jan 5, 2014
tezco I like this version.�
Jan 5, 2014
Gwgan Yup. But where to draw the line between bummper and frunk? Full bonnet (lights and fender tops included) would be too bulky on an S; may be fine on an E.�
Jan 5, 2014
wolfpet OMG I really like this one!!! The only issue I have is the logo on the grill. It looks a bit like an afterthought to me. I'd pay $$$ for a mod like that.�
Jan 6, 2014
muleferg Did someone say Fish Mouth! I got one. been looking for shark teeth. or a red tongue sticking out.
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Jan 6, 2014
Twoeagle Something like this would be nice�
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Jan 7, 2014
JaredBanyard This isn't a ford....
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I do like the matte black nose cone wrap though:
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Jan 7, 2014
EVDR
I'm sorry but Franz missed the front design, it has been criticized buy everyone it looks cheap. I hope a better front nose coming up soon.
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Jan 7, 2014
Gwgan Grill or no grill
See post #7 MS Front Grill Alternatives
Thinking about the current disliked grill and comparing it with other cars I see on the road, I find it's presence makes for a more aggressive sporty statement which suites a Model S. A no-nose look might be a better fit for a smaller car (E?). A couple of narrow grills reminds me of the late Prelude (and if that thought evokes a certain feeling, there's your truth).
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Jan 7, 2014
muleferg Richard Petty Daytona 500 Special Model lll Tesla Sunbird. Nose Cone and Carbon Fiber Wing. Model S available soon.
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Jan 7, 2014
artsci Everyone? A gross overstatement with no basis other than anecdotes.
Not me, and many other owners I know as well�
Jan 7, 2014
bonnie Probably best to just speak for yourself. I LIKE the Model S as it currently is. I also like the Model X as currently designed.�
Jan 7, 2014
Discoducky Please someone post a pic of the new "plastic surgery" smile of Lincolns for the baseline of ugly.�
Jan 7, 2014
gg_got_a_tesla I'd call it the "Botox Bliss":
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Jan 7, 2014
jkliu47 Take away the Tesla badge, and you wouldn't be able to tell what this car is coming up your rear view mirror. It looks like a generic Japanese coupe.. (Honda? Acura?)
One of the design elements important to top performing cars is for them to be instantly recognizable when showing up in your rear view mirror - so you can pull over and let them by
Take the BMW M series cars - everyone of them has that large gaping air scoop below the front bumper level, in addition to the kidney grilles. This so you know that this is the 'alpha' BMW - and to pull over for it to pass.
It's the same for the Tesla. I have to say the nose wasn't my favorite part of the car's design. But now I have to say it has grown on me, and I am looking forward to the day ICE drivers will recognize that nose cone and pull over to allow the superior car to pass through. LOL.�
Jan 7, 2014
muleferg I have learnt to like the Nose Cone. Yes learnt. Its old English.
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Jan 7, 2014
brianman olde?�
Jan 7, 2014
TsRocket i guess its a N O. From me too.�
Jan 7, 2014
rjcbox No.�
Jan 8, 2014
DavidM Kind of reminded me of a Ford Fusion. Therefore, no thanks.�
Jan 8, 2014
muleferg Moore Luk A Likey
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Jan 8, 2014
jkliu47 Here is MSN's Top 10 Front Ends in Auto Design:
http://editorial.autos.msn.com/listarticle.aspx?cp-documentid=1183639
And Bing and Google photo search of auto front fascias
http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=front+fascias&form=MSNSPA
https://www.google.com/search?q=auto+front+fascia&espv=210&es_sm=122&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=S5XNUvTsJcbroATEuoGYDg&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAQ&biw=1366&bih=680
How many of these grills can you identify without the help of the auto badge? And btw I couldn't find Tesla's in these pics!�
Jan 8, 2014
muleferg And Another. My Fav. Grille
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Jan 8, 2014
AustinPowers Actually that kinda looks like Porsche to me...
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Jan 9, 2014
CaptDaveHowe Just be honest, I do not like it at all... It makes the Model S look like it has a gas engine and needs the air intake for a radiator. In other words, it makes the Model S look typical. Sorry.�
Jan 11, 2014
Nikoli Agreed, the F-Type is uber sexy. If it had the Tesla drivetrain I would have bought this instead of the S.�
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