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Model X Online Configuration by September. part 1

  • Aug 5, 2015
    Lyon
    Elon Just said it. It's going to happen. Take it to the bank.
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  • Aug 5, 2015
    NigelM
    He said "two to three weeks probably" (slightly mumbling as usual though) so it might be sooner than September. Anyhow, looks like we maybe won't have to wait till end September?
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  • Aug 5, 2015
    Lyon
    Yeah, I took his comments to mean that we'd see it online this month.
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  • Aug 5, 2015
    Cosmacelf
    Model X configuring in August

    Specifically Elon said on the Q2 conference call, 2-3 weeks from today (Aug 5), so that's August 19 through 26. Meaning maybe end of August! First deliveries still end of September.

    But based on what else Elon said, I am personally forecasting not seeing customer deliveries until October or November...
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  • Aug 5, 2015
    ronmerkord
    Hey, I already configured mine back in July -- just like he said before.
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  • Aug 5, 2015
    Yggdrasill
    Awwww yeaaaaah!
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  • Aug 5, 2015
    A.G.
    When did he say first deliveries would be? I missed that. End of Sept?
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  • Aug 5, 2015
    Lyon
    Yes, still on track for deliveries beginning end of Q3.
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  • Aug 5, 2015
    gizmoboy
    Man, you guys are a bunch of optimists. I love that.

    I've only been following Tesla closely for a month or two, but I believe I know what "two to three weeks probably" means. That extra "probably" is him signaling uncertainty (which doesn't seem to be his bag), so I'd over-emphasize that in my interpretation.
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  • Aug 5, 2015
    NigelM
    Ha, I don't care. What is certain is that production is getting ready and cars will start being delivered from late September. I'm thinking my car should be sometime around late October/early November which is what I was expecting. :)
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  • Aug 5, 2015
    apacheguy
    Where are the betas? Has Tesla decided to skip them this time around?
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  • Aug 5, 2015
    anticitizen13.7
    The Beta phase was over months ago. Model X has been in Release Candidate phase since around March, and today's Shareholder letter & Conference call indicated that Release Candidate Model X vehicles had been built on the new assembly line in Fremont.
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  • Aug 5, 2015
    bonnie
    If the assembly line tooling was just validated last week (one of the reasons for the factory shutdown), then what have we been looking at in all the sightings? Because I seem to recall a few people sure that those were coming off the assembly line. Now we know that wasn't true.

    I'm sticking with FrankenCar for now and patiently waiting to see the X:)
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  • Aug 5, 2015
    AnOutsider
    Although you know I 100% agree with you that what we see isn't the final X, not being made on the final assembly line doesn't mean what we've been seeing isn't representative of the final product -- though, I still firmly believe it will look different.
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  • Aug 5, 2015
    bonnie
    Oh absolutely agree that it doesn't mean it MUST be different. Only pointing out that people saying 'that's a production car' on the road and concluding it was the final version, might have to reconsider.
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  • Aug 5, 2015
    anticitizen13.7
    Release Candidate != Production Car

    I don't think we've seen the final product, but I also believe it is highly unlikely that the final product will be substantially different in general appearance from what we've seen in the spy photos and videos. The nose cone and perhaps some of the exterior panel details may be different, but the interior utility and exterior aerodynamic requirements mean that the overall profile simply cannot change.
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  • Aug 7, 2015
    Beryl
    I agree. I've never understood the comments that the looks of Model X would be shockingly different.
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  • Aug 8, 2015
    Bgarret
    What no one knows on this forum (but that I'm sure Elon is taking into account) is that my birthday is on the 17th - so reveal announcement on August - 17th, reveal event and design studio open on the 26th or 27th.

    There, done now, plan accordingly. If you are booking tickets from Europe or Asia to fly to California for the reveal event, you may want to leave a day or two on each side for safety. Come see the Golden Gate Bridge or go for a drive along the PCH. Have a bar-b-q at Bonnie's. Chill..everything is under control. :cool:
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  • Aug 8, 2015
    FlasherZ
    My wife has been asking more and more often "when do I get my car?!"

    I told her to expect it around mid-to-late November, perhaps on the anniversary date of my Model S (Nov 26).
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  • Aug 9, 2015
    Merrill
    Elon told me the reveal and design studio would be on my birthday September 13!!
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  • Aug 9, 2015
    Bgarret
    Unfortunately....your dream is more plausible.
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  • Aug 18, 2015
    dauger
    It was two months between when I finalized my S order and took delivery. Without an official announcement of X's specs and options, I don't get how they could expect early X reservation holders to choose their X configuration quickly enough for the factory to have enough time to fill those orders before September is gone. Unless TM releases specs and options soon (it's already second half of August), substantial deliveries in September seem to be evaporating.
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  • Aug 19, 2015
    timf
    There were never supposed to be substantial deliveries in September. It's been widely assumed the people who will be taking delivery in September (Founders) have already configured in private. That's not to say they couldn't turn around some orders in 30 days, as they are currently doing this with some Model S orders. However, Elon has stated multiple times that substantial deliveries will not happen until Q4.
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  • Aug 26, 2015
    Tam
    maintenance.jpg The site is down for maintenance as of Wednesday, 08/26/2015 shortly before 11PM Pacific Time. Hopefully, it's a preparation for Model X web pages ;)
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  • Aug 26, 2015
    Paul Carter
    F5 F5 F5! LOL I wonder... could August 27 be the day? :) Tomorrow's a Thursday. Thursday works for me. :)
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  • Aug 26, 2015
    schonelucht
    Fingers crossed!
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  • Aug 28, 2015
    Cosmacelf
    No such luck. Sigh. I've had my Model X order in since mid 2012, but haven't really felt much "wait anxiety" since I decided to buy a Model S in late 2012, and received it less than 3 months later. But I just recently reached the point where I now NEED the Model X (for 7 passengers and towing), so I'm finally learning how all those stalwart Model S reservation holders felt for so many years...

    It sucks.
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  • Aug 30, 2015
    Raven
    Let's hope tomorrow is the day!
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  • Aug 30, 2015
    JRod0802
    I hope so. I keep reading everything on the forum, and then when it turns out that no one has posted that the online configuration is up, I think to myself, "hmm... well, maybe it just went live like 30 seconds ago, and no one has posted about it yet".



    Then I check...



    Aaaaand, nothing...



    Every time
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  • Aug 30, 2015
    Saxena
    Too funny, exactly what I have been driving myself nuts doing throughout the day!!
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  • Aug 30, 2015
    Nigel Tufnel
    Are we there yet?

    How about now?


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  • Aug 30, 2015
    ModelX
    I have been moving between this forum, my tesla and the other forum all day! :wink:
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  • Aug 30, 2015
    FredTMC
    why do folks expect something on Monday? Did Elon say by "August" for the configurator or a reveal?
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  • Aug 30, 2015
    doggusfluffy
    I think it was the in about 3 weeks quote from the ER referencing the configurator. He said that 3 weeks ago last Wednesday.
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  • Aug 31, 2015
    jeffro01
    I still do not understand why Tesla just won't release the freaking design studio already... It almost makes one think the Model X is actually vapor ware... Something simply doesn't feel right here and I wish Elon would just come clean or at a minimum meet his own self imposed deadlines. If Tesla doesn't know enough by now to launch the design studio then there is no way they actually meet the definition of a Q3 release for the Model X and the stock will take a beating as a result.

    Jeff
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  • Aug 31, 2015
    mrdoubleb
    I am worried about your fingers man! Don`t keep them crossed too long, they may turn blue...

    - - - Updated - - -

    This is how I explain that.

    They want to do a proper reveal for this car before taking the studio online. What is very likely in my mind is that the Founders have already configured and even some Sigs (khm.. Bonnie and her Friday shenanigans... khm) have been asked to do so in person. They are also about to bring the production line online (Elon`s Tweet), meaning that in about 2 weeks we could expect a Founders` delivery event streamed online followed by the studio going live that evening.

    Than again I wouldn't hold my breath (or keep my fingers crossed) waiting for the X. They may just randomly surprise us with a Tweet at any time.
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  • Aug 31, 2015
    Cosmacelf
    Guys, the Model X is delayed, again. Elton pretty much said that in the 2Q conference call. He did say three weeks for the configurator, but he also said that they had supplier issues. When Elon says contradictory things, believe the pessimistic one... I mean, has Tesla ever made a promised date?
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  • Aug 31, 2015
    bonnie
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  • Aug 31, 2015
    Macgaver
    Last year, Elon sent the tweet about the "D" the 1st September (for the revelation on Sept 9th).

    My guess, is a tweet tomorrow (1rst), just calling the reveal event in ~1 week (with in same time the configurator, like last year with the "D").


    PS: I'm not really good at "guess" ... I was really sure that it was las week (since Elon said "In 2-3 weeks" at the August 5th shareholder call)
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  • Aug 31, 2015
    Saghost
    I think you mean an announcement on Oct 1 for a reveal on October 9th, last year. Not sure what if anything this means for your expectations for September 1st this year...
    Walter
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  • Aug 31, 2015
    jeffro01
    Then simply stop saying on conference calls with investors listening that the Model X Design Studio will be online by the end of July, then the end of August, then... Just launch the damn thing already. I want to order my Model S but will not do so until the X Design Studio launches. The longer Tesla takes to do this, and the more Elon continues to mislead and\or fail to meet his own deadlines announced publicly, the thinner the ice gets.

    Jeff
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  • Aug 31, 2015
    mrdoubleb
    Just to be fair, he never said the design studio will be live in 2-3 weeks. He said something like "we are going to ask people to configure in about 2-3 weeks", which he could have technically meant to be Founders and early sigs - which -at least in my theory - may already be under way. Also, all of those calls and ER releases have disclaimers about forward looking statements, current plans and so on for a reason.

    Having said that, i think Elon really needs to be more careful in situations like that as he may lose credibility. He very well knew what the analysts meant by those questions about Model X configuration and reveal, but he danced around it to avoid revealing too much of his plans or nail himself to something when there was still so much uncertainty. Still, he should be careful not to become too much of a politician.Half his charm is his straight shooter, tell it like it is, no corporate BS style (the other half being his brains).
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  • Aug 31, 2015
    franz
    This is from Seeking Alpha's transcript from the Q2 earnings call:
    http://seekingalpha.com/article/3406155-tesla-motors-tsla-elon-reeve-musk-on-q2-2015-results-earnings-call-transcript?page=2&p=qanda&l=last

    Ben J. Kallo - Robert W. Baird & Co., Inc. (Broker)
    Hi. Thanks for taking my question. As far as the Model X goes, last time, Elon, you talked about configuration in July and I understand with the slippage. But when can we start thinking about configuring cars � we have orders out there? Customer have orders. And then with about a month away from deliveries, when do you expect to show it to people?

    Elon Reeve Musk - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer
    We're probably into upper configuration and two or three weeks of the X. So that should go live on the website before the end of August. In terms of the initial deliveries of the X, that's sort of consistent with what we predicted on the last call, which is end of September.
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  • Aug 31, 2015
    timf
    He specifically said it "should go live on the website before the end of this month". The old quote about configuring in July could have been interpreted the way you suggest, but this is pretty clear cut. The key word here is "should", which suggests an amount of uncertainty. Something could still appear before the day is over but I'm not expecting it. I agree that he would be better off not answering these questions rather than setting false expectations.
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  • Aug 31, 2015
    TEG
    Burning Man festival is Aug 30 - Sep 7, 2015

    Elon and others from Tesla usually go, I think.
    I wonder if that puts a hold on some activities for the week?
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  • Aug 31, 2015
    donv
    Just curious-- why does opening the design studio on the website require some big announcement, or event, or something?

    They already did a big "reveal" event a few years ago for the X. Presumably, they will film the first delivery or two and post them on YouTube.

    Why should anything more be expected?

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  • Aug 31, 2015
    MorrisonHiker
    What better place to unveil the X. Just kidding!

    Honestly though, it would be nice if they put something up on the website. Anything! Other companies, such as Volvo with the new XC90, have done a great job building up the suspense for a new car about to be unveiled. Yes, the suspense has been building for the X for years but it would be nice to have an updated image on the site...even if the car was in the shadows or covered up. The current site still shows cameras instead of the side mirrors...but I think we're 99% sure it won't look like that.
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  • Aug 31, 2015
    jeffro01
    I sincerely hope that with all that's going on at Tesla & SpaceX that Elon would not take time out to waste precious time at such an event.

    Jeff
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  • Aug 31, 2015
    mrdoubleb
    Ok, ok, I get it, I am getting old and the 2 earnings calls got mixed together in my head. Well, this certainly doesn't make things look any better. One has to wonder though what would be better:
    - openly coming out and saying there is a delay and living with the consequences (share price)
    - going live with the configurator anyway, just delaying deliveries
    - not communicating anything on the topic

    I am pretty sure no communication is the worst option, though the tweet about production line 2 is encouraging.
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  • Aug 31, 2015
    TEG
    Burning Man doesn't allow any commercial entities to advertise in any way.
    Tesla once brought a Roadster buck there, and removed all the logos, and didn't mention what kind of car it was. Basically just a piece of art.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Apparently Solar City came out of a discussion related to Burning Man.
    SolarCity's Burning Man roots - Fortune
    One could look at it as an opportunity for intense creative pondering of the next big thing... Seeds of inspiration.
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  • Aug 31, 2015
    ecarfan
    I just received an email from Tesla, subject line "Tesla Updates: August 2015", with this text in it:

    "We are building and testing Model X prototypes and on track for first deliveries in late Q3 of this year. We have made significant progress on the installation of a new body shop, a new paint shop and new stamping presses that will establish new capacity for both Model X and Model S."

    Note: I am not an X reservation holder. The email had a lot of other text in it on a variety of Tesla-related topics, none of which was new info to me.
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  • Aug 31, 2015
    Gwgan
    This from the TM email today "Model X We are building and testing Model X prototypes and on track for first deliveries in late Q3 of this year. We have made significant progress on the installation of a new body shop, a new paint shop and new stamping presses that will establish new capacity for both Model X and Model S.�
    July = early
    August = middle
    September = late
    so 9/30, right?
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  • Aug 31, 2015
    Cattledog
    Well, if it's a Leap Month, it'll be September 31st.
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  • Aug 31, 2015
    anticitizen13.7
    I've said many times that it is a mistake for Tesla (usually referring to Elon as the final spokesperson for the company) to keep throwing out dates and deadlines that are almost never met.

    It would be far better for Tesla to simply say "It's ready when it's ready", and issue substantive quarterly updates on progress, rather than set unrealistic expectations for engineering projects where things often do take much longer than expected. This constant failure to meet deadlines is damaging to the credibility of the company and damaging to the brand.

    Tesla can get away with this now to some extent because they have no competition in high-end EVs, and a loyal fanbase that is willing to tolerate delays because they believe in the cause of transport/storage electrification. Tesla will not be able to get away with this in a mainstream car like Model 3. Regular customers will simply buy something else (like a Honda or a Ford or a Mercedes) if they aren't willing to put up with constant delays and aren't really bought into the whole electrification mission.
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  • Aug 31, 2015
    Cosmacelf
    Better for who? By teasing us, he's doing a good job at keeping the stock price up. If it was radio silence, the stock price would take a hit...
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  • Aug 31, 2015
    anticitizen13.7
    Better for customer relations.

    Also, if Tesla loses credibility by constantly promising and never delivering, some investors will bail, and demand for the stock will fall. I don't think this is having any good effect on the stock price, which by my quick look at the charts hasn't really moved since early 2014.

    It's shipping product (the Dual Motor models) and high gross margins that are keeping investors on board. This is Tesla backing it's words with great product. Model X is essentially a no-show, although the final looking test vehicles at least prove its not vaporware.
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  • Sep 1, 2015
    Blip
    Just discovered a new picture of a black Model X on my profile (not the old grey one...). How old is this picture? Must admit that I don't log on to my Tesla account very often...

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  • Sep 1, 2015
    lucy
    It's new since sometime between 2200 yesterday & 0200 today CDT.
    woo!
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  • Sep 1, 2015
    Blip
    How can you tell?
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  • Sep 1, 2015
    hobbes
    Cool, and the doors align nicely ;)! Can�t take the suspense any more though I don�t even have a reservation...

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  • Sep 1, 2015
    EarlyAdopter
    Signature Red is back:

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  • Sep 1, 2015
    sjoshuaj
    That looks like the final version. You can see where the spoiler is and the tail lights are different than what was in the prototype. The badging is on there. The rear bumper is shaped differently and now includes lights or reflectors there as well. Very cool.
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  • Sep 1, 2015
    mulder1231
    Are these photos of the actual product? More likely a 3D computer rendering I would think...
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  • Sep 1, 2015
    hobbes
    Nice! Like the sig red.

    Below the pic it says

    Though it might seem obvious, that means before the sigs are not notified to configure (unless they already are and can�t say) the design center won�t be up for everyone.
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  • Sep 1, 2015
    Yggdrasill
    Someone on the Norwegian EV forum just posted:

    Though this is from someone with just two posts, so take it with a grain of salt.
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  • Sep 1, 2015
    Oyvind.H
    Same as with the S launch. Config opens in the order of reservation.
    Hope it happens soon so I can see if the car is affordable :)
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  • Sep 1, 2015
    Yggdrasill
    F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5...

    :wink:

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    He just posted a shot of the interior! Looks real! The image can be found here: My Tesla er oppdatert med nytt bilde But you need to be registered.

    (I can't move embedded pictures around, as I'm at work.)
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  • Sep 1, 2015
    satheesh.net
    This you mean? :wink:
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  • Sep 1, 2015
    Saghost
    Thank you for bringing that over.

    Very interesting. No visible connections to the center mirror pod at all, and what appears to be a long, thin sun visor stored along
    The driver's A pillar.

    We were kinda expecting the missing cross beam...

    It looks like the second row seats may have power?
    Walter
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  • Sep 1, 2015
    Mark Z
    Signature X Ordered

    I pressed the Signature X "Order" button, however the Design Studio has continued to show the rotating circle for 12 minutes so far.

    With Subzero Weather Package it: "May delay delivery by up to one month". We have a week to change options, so more details can be made by phone on this subject in the next week.
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  • Sep 1, 2015
    davecolene0606
    Congrats!

    Thanx for the pass along:smile:
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  • Sep 1, 2015
    Gwgan
    Thrilled with the news but sad to not see the dash update with the prototype styling. Did the touch pad make it to the steering wheel control? It looks like there is a scroll wheel sticking up.
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  • Sep 1, 2015
    paintpolisher
    Who wants to sell me a sig red Model X? :)

    Love that color.
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  • Sep 1, 2015
    32no
    So I've been going to the Model S design studio and changing the "S" to an "X" to see if the X design studio is online: (http://my.teslamotors.com/models/design) to this (http://my.teslamotors.com/modelx/design). I used to get redirected to the X page, but now I get redirected to the Model S design studio instead, which is interesting. I wonder how long it will take for us (everyone other than the Signature reservation holders) to finally see the Model X.
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  • Sep 1, 2015
    robertvg
    So what is that 'special' about the second row seats that Elon was referring to all the time ?
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  • Sep 1, 2015
    jeewee3000
    Elon said all the model X "secrets" will be revealed upon the first delivery, which he promised by the end of september. Then we will know all about the mirrors/seats/etc.

    Considering the design studio went online at 11:59 pm for signature reservation holders at August 31st, expect that delivery around October 1st :wink:
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  • Sep 1, 2015
    MikeBur
    Any chance one of the sig reservation folk could post front view, as well as the usual list of options (incl. tyre size) please?

    thanks, Mike

    - - - Updated - - -

    Congrats! Beat Bonnie to it? ;-)
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  • Sep 1, 2015
    Matias
  • Sep 1, 2015
    AnOutsider
    Sig 27


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  • Sep 1, 2015
    anticitizen13.7
    This is all very nice stuff. Thanks to those who posted screen captures!

    I will stop complaining now, haha.
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  • Sep 1, 2015
    timf
    I'll hand it to Tesla, sending out the first emails at 11:59 PM Pacific Time on August 31 in order to make their end of August deadline. Talk about cutting it close but still delivering.
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  • Sep 1, 2015
    Jeva
    So what's the pricing on the base models? I've been trying to decide if I go with the S or the X and if the pricing is pretty close, it'll be the X.
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  • Sep 1, 2015
    CmdrThor
    Here is my take on the pricing. I think the Model X 75 kWh will be $79,000 based on the following options included in the Model X Signature. I think Pano roof is no longer an option. And neither is the spoiler since it is standard. Instead of "Next Generation Leather", the option might be the independently operable middle row seats. And on top of these options, sub zero for $1,000 and towing for $750 will be options as they are for the Signature. Based on the Signature X price, it doesn't look like there is any room for a "Sig Tax". I think Signature Model X buyers will pay the exact amount someone who configures an identical production Model X pays.

    Model S Model X
    Base (70 kWh for S, 75 kWh for X) $75,000 $79,000
    90 kWh $13,000 $10,000
    Performance $20,000 $20,000
    MC Paint $1,500 $1,500
    Larger Wheel Option $4,500 $4,500
    Next Generation Leather $2,500 $2,500
    Carbon Fiber D�cor $1,000 $1,000
    Autopilot $2,500 $2,500
    Premium Interior $3,000 $3,000
    Smart Air Suspension $2,500 $2,500
    Upgraded Sound $2,500 $2,500
    3rd Row Seats $3,000 $3,000
    $131,000 $132,000
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  • Sep 1, 2015
    timf
    There should be at least 3 levels of front seating: standard textile, non-ventilated leather, and ventilated leather. The second row option will likely be priced separately.
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  • Sep 1, 2015
    Newscutter
    Hard to imagine a price cut to the Model S won't be forthcoming... if not now, then when production ramp is complete. As much as I prefer the S styling, there is so much "added value" to the X that I can't see the average buyer accepting the S is the same price for "less".
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  • Sep 1, 2015
    Mark Z
    Bonnie was #2 in line, so even if my configuration was first, she should get her X first.

    In regard to front photos and specs, no front photos were shown in the Design Studio. The minimal specs are have been posted on the other busy thread. The 20 and 22 inch wheels are unique to Model X. No price differences exist for any of the basic paint, wheel or decor selections for Signature X. No cloth seats or Piano Black decor. Personally, I was pleased to see the options provided. The Signature Red color gets lots of complements from everyone.
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  • Sep 1, 2015
    Martijn S
    Hi, thanks for sharing this !
    Is this your account; and if so, do you already get to see delivery-window?
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  • Sep 1, 2015
    MikeBur
    Thanks Mark, and Mathias, for extra details. Not on sig list, though looking at how I'd spec an X, it might make sense to see if I can fill a slot (assuming such a thing I'd possible (blessed by TM,etc))? ;-)
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  • Sep 10, 2015
    Mark Z
    It's good to know how to spec another model. As we talk to others we never know when questions will occur. At one of our meet-ups with OC Tesla, I stood in the parking lot answering questions for hours for a visitor who was in the process of configuring. She had every question possible and was so pleased with the electrician I recommended. Her Tesla Model S is beautifully configured and she is a very happy owner. The extra effort is worth it when the right choices are made to switch from ICE to BEV successfully and enjoyable.
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