Jun 14, 2016
TravelSD80 I'm on the M3 waitlist, and got this interesting email from Tesla last night trying to sell me on a MS 60. I think this is a clear indication that Tesla specifically introduced the MS 60 to try and lure M3 people that don't want to wait or feel the lower price point will now make them buy.
Hello xxx,
We are thrilled to have just launched the new Model S 60 and as a valued model 3 reservation holder I wanted to personally reach out to invite you to University Town Center Showroom to experience Model S 60 and 60D. It is a wonderful opportunity to get into a custom designed Tesla with payments starting at $667/mth before gas and tax incentive savings. Depending on your current vehicle trade-in value the monthly payment could be even lower.
We know how excited you are to receive your Model 3 and wanted to ensure you had the chance to work with myself and our team to explore the options of getting into a Tesla even sooner. Please let me know if I can arrange a test drive experience for you or answer any questions. We would also be happy to review your current trade-in options as well. We are here to help you build your dream car and continue our mission to accelerate the transition to sustainable transport.
Please feel free to reach our UTC Showroom Manager, xxx, at xxx or call 858.xxx.�
Jun 14, 2016
zag2me I've got the same email, and have no reservation for the model 3.
But you are right, its "only" a 30k bump and you would get the car quicker, and a better car I think.
Its tempting if I had loads of money, but not supercar money
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Jun 14, 2016
Tiberius Seems obvious that is what they want to do but I didn't think they would be so forward about it....
I wonder if Tesla feels there are too many Model 3 reservations and this is one way to reduce them? Just a guess.�
Jun 14, 2016
JeffK Yup, looks like a sales email and/or something to entice you until the Model 3 gets here if you have the cash and want both.
They know I don't have the cash and didn't bother to send such an email to me. I just got the normal email advertisement on the launch being on their mailing list and all.�
Jun 14, 2016
plankeye And to keep the MS sales up in the meantime.�
Jun 14, 2016
malcolm Or it's a good way to get us all thinking in the right ballpark for the fully loaded 3�
Jun 14, 2016
JeffK Fingers crossed�
Jun 14, 2016
ecarfan Seems like a reasonable approach by Tesla.
I have a 3 reservation but have not received the email the OP quotes.�
Jun 14, 2016
etm33 I'm a pre-reveal Model 3 reservation holder, am signed up for their event updates and newsletters, and have a Model S test drive scheduled for Friday evening, but I didn't get the "upsell" email. Perhaps because the nearest store to me is 3 hours away?
(I'll be in Dayton OH over the weekend, and in Cincy for the test drive).�
Jun 14, 2016
S3XY That's why I figured I didn't get it. Although, technically Toronto is under 2 hours away. BTW, how many test drives will that make now?�
Jun 14, 2016
TTBHG I don't understand why someone would buy a stripped down S for what should be the same price as a fully loaded 3.�
Jun 14, 2016
Kimo I would love a Model S, but even with a starting price of 66k it isn't low enough to make me switch from my Model 3 preorder. For me, I am not looking at a $35k Model 3, but a Model 3 with AWD, autopilot, etc. To have the same configuration on the Model S that starting price point would be 73.5k, vs an estimated 43k of a Model 3. Is the Model S worth 30k more, I think it is, and I definitely enjoyed the test drive, but I will wait for the Model 3.
(Now lower the starting price to 55k (without incentives) and I am all over it�
Jun 14, 2016
lklundin To anyone who receives this offer from Tesla and who is not going to accept it right now:
There is an ongoing petition to make Tesla offer an optional tow hitch on the Model S:
Petition for tow hitch on the Model S
So think about supporting this petition by replying for example like this:
"The Model S looks good and the price is not too terrible, but I think I need a car with a tow hitch.
Feel free to contact me again, once Tesla has a tow hitch option for the Model S".�
Jun 14, 2016
Chopr147 I have a first test drive on Friday in Saratoga NY. I might just be convinced enough to buy the S. I am trying to hold back that desire but........�
Jun 14, 2016
gregd Anybody wonder if Tesla would be more effective if they directed their email campaign at non-Tesla owners, instead of ones who have already invested? M3 waitees, perhaps, but those of us who already have a Tesla are probably less likely to buy another, vs someone who has a higher-end ICE coming off lease soon (as an example).�
Jun 14, 2016
S3XY I'm guessing that an email from Tesla would not be ignored�
Jun 14, 2016
plankeye I have a Model S test drive scheduled for Friday afternoon!
I haven't received the email either.�
Jun 14, 2016
Jason Bourne One reason would be to avoid the 18 month wait, and to ensure they get the Fed tax credit if they're not low on the Model ? waiting list�
Jun 14, 2016
ecarfan I live 15 minutes from a showroom/service center, but didn't receive that email.�
Jun 14, 2016
dhanson865 Please tell me about this fantasy of a stripped down Model S.
I just looked and the standard equipment listed includes
Technology
Safety
- Regular over-the-air updates add safety and navigation features, enhance performance and improve the driver experience
- Free long distance travel on Tesla's expanding Supercharger network
- Maps and navigation with real time traffic information
- Center console with removable dividers
- GPS-enabled Homelink
- Mobile app remote control
- Rain sensing automatic windshield wipers
- Twelve way power adjustable, heated front seats with memory and driver profile
- Automatic keyless entry
Warranty
- Active safety technologies, including side collision avoidance and automatic emergency braking, even at highway speeds
- Electronic stability and traction control
- Four wheel antilock disc brakes with electronic parking brake
- Parking sensors and blind spot warning
- Full LED headlamps
- Power-folding, heated side mirrors with memory
- Three LATCH child seat attachments
- Eight airbags for driver and passenger heads, knees, and pelvis plus two side curtain airbags
- 8 year, infinite mile battery and drive unit warranty
- 4 year, 50,000 mile limited warranty
I'm just not seeing a "stripped car" there. Autopilot for $2500 is the only must have over the base model and then paint color of choice for $1000 is a nice want. I don't consider either of those deal breaking prices for add ons and I wouldn't call it a stripped car even without as I can add on the autopilot software later since the HW is already there.
Take a look at a base Honda Civic or a base Toyota Prius they sure sell stripped down cars. You have a funny idea of "stripped" if you think even the lowest 2016 Tesla is stripped.�
Jun 14, 2016
roblab There is an optional tow hitch available. I have had one on my Model S (previous and current) for over 3 years, and it works beautifully. It seems your only deal breaker point is that Tesla has not said that it allows towing, but that is pretty much a non event, as you can tow Class I with no problems. I also had a tow hitch on my Priuses, and towed, without Toyota's express permission. Concern over warranty is generally overworked.
So, I guess the petition for a tow hitch is not what people really mean. What they want is permission. Right?�
Jun 14, 2016
Chopr147 AP is a must have! Don't forget
- Free long distance travel on Tesla's expanding Supercharger network . Does not look like M3 will have that.
- The $7500 will be long gone before I get a M3
- I am seriously considering this the more I think about it
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Jun 14, 2016
ecarfan A base Model S contains an amazing array of standard features, some of which are not available on any other car made by all the other car companies!
We do not yet know what the price of a "fully loaded 3" will be, nor do we know what it will include. But we do know that a base S will offer a larger trunk, larger frunk, free for life Supercharging, and a hatchback which the 3 will not have.
So there are compelling reasons to consider a base S over an optioned 3.�
Jun 14, 2016
xav- Not having to wait 2 years (which assumes everything goes to plan which never happens), having a real trunk that accommodates a dog (e.g no crazy dog on the back seats), being able to fit a couple surfboards without using a roof rack or taking down the passenger front seat.
I admit I am tempted�
Jun 14, 2016
xav- Forgot to add better looking car to the list.. not a big fan of the hatch back look of the 3.. Especially when it's not even a hatch back to begin with.�
Jun 14, 2016
JeffK You must hate Lambo's and Porsches too.�
Jun 14, 2016
Gilzo For me it's simple, the S is bigger which is what I'm needing (3 kids). And honestly I think the S looks better. Of course the other reasons others have noted plays a factor as well.
I'm seriously considering the S60.�
Jun 14, 2016
dgpcolorado If even 1% of the reservation holders are tempted to take a look at the new S60, Tesla could generate significant sales.
After watching the Model 3 release, and being disappointed, it made me appreciate my Model S even more. But I wouldn't have known that if I wasn't already driving one, I suppose.�
Jun 14, 2016
stopcrazypp I got an email on June 9th about the S60, but it didn't mention anything about me being a Model 3 reservation owner (previously I also got two other emails about the HEPA filters), so it might have just been generic. I am about an hour away from the nearest showroom.
As for upsell to Model S, I remember Tesla had been doing that since the launch. During the reservation, you could also schedule a test drive of the S, which is obviously an upsell tactic.�
Jun 14, 2016
Canuck I got a similar email, except the Canadian version:
Today we�re excited to reintroduce the Model S 60. Starting at $86,000 or $1,144 a month (details here), the Model S 60 delivers 338 km (EPA est.) of range, a top speed of 210 kph and zero-to-100 acceleration in 5.8 seconds.
With all-wheel drive, the Model S 60D provides more range (351 km EPA est.) and faster acceleration (zero-to-100 in 5.4 seconds).
Like all Tesla vehicles, the 60 and 60D come standard with active safety features and Autopilot hardware. And both versions can later be upgraded through a software update to 75 kWh for about 20% extra range.
Anyone who orders a 60 or any other new Model S or Model X between now and July 15 through the Tesla Referral Program gets a $1,200 credit towards the purchase. Just share your personal code with friends, family or anyone else. As a thank you, there will be a range of awards.
Click below to learn more about Model S 60 and 60D.
Because a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush --- and there's probably not even a better bird in the bush, let alone two.
Plus, two years of my life not driving a Tesla sounds almost like torture to me.�
Jun 14, 2016
Chris TX Hmmmm.... Another Model S, lower end but newer; or wait for a superduperloaded Model 3PxxDL.
I think I'll wait�
Jun 14, 2016
FirstSea It's a nice deal, but for that price I could probably get a top of the line 3, plus I don't mind waiting.
I got the email last week.�
Jun 14, 2016
Dan Detweiler For me...to be honest, yes I think the Model S is better looking. Not a lot, but I do like its lines a little better. It is bigger, I'll give you that. For me, that is where the benefits end when deciding between a Model 3 and a Model S. Yes, I could have it sooner. For me I don't need it sooner. I won't pay off my Volt for another 10 months and it is going to become my son's transportation so I need to get it paid off first anyway. The S is bigger. I personally don't want bigger. It literally wouldn't fit in my garage plus I just don't need all that room. It's usually just my wife and I when we travel. I would get the $7500 tax credit for sure with an S when I probably won't with my 3, but let's look at that for a second. I just priced an S60 on the Tesla site and put the options on it I would want on my 3. Paint upgrade, Pano roof, Gen 2 seats, AWD, Auto Pilot, Premium Upgrade. Total Price...$81,500 take out the $7500 tax credit and it's $74,000.
For $74,000 I am pretty sure I could get every option available plus the kitchen sink on the Model 3. I am guessing (hoping) the Model 3 version with the above options will be in the neighborhood of $60,000 (and that would be with a larger battery that will charge faster, have more range and degrade at a slower rate.) On top of that I will get it in the time frame I need and not before, and it will fit in my garage (always a plus)!
I'll wait, but thanks for the offer.
Dan�
Jun 14, 2016
xav- Also worth mentioning 1.74 pc over 78 months financing (likely worth a couple grand), free internet (not sure I want to go over the mess of using my iPhone as a hotspot, or using my phone for directions as I do now), $1k referral.
In my case though (CA) I think I will qualify for the tax rebate.. So it kind of makes the decision more difficult..�
Jun 14, 2016
Garlan Garner I didn't receive the email. Should all of us receive the email?�
Jun 14, 2016
xav- I wonder how much supercharging will be for the 3. Considering the amount of 3 folks who I suspect will live in appartments, I suspect it will be more than $2k.�
Jun 14, 2016
Garlan Garner Yes, supercharging is known to come in at around $2K.�
Jun 14, 2016
JeffK well, for the early Model S it was.�
Jun 14, 2016
Garlan Garner true. Wow. you have done a lot of posting.�
Jun 14, 2016
Fresh Start Detail This is classic marketing 101 though. Keep your most loyal fans engaged in all your latest products, it's like when Apple releases their next wave of ground-breaking electronics, they notify their most ardent fans first because a certain percentage of your clients will ALWAYS want to have the latest model. They get addicted to it! I image their are one or eight-thousand of those kinds of folks in the Tesla universe that are members of this very forum.�
Jun 14, 2016
Garlan Garner I admit it.�
Jun 14, 2016
182RG I'm guessing it was targeted at, wait for it.....wait for it....California residents. Like everything else. Hey Tesla, people further east have money too?�
Jun 14, 2016
182RG This captures some customers to offset those that will get frustrated and drop out, when Model 3 deliveries are appallingly late and fewer in number than EM's prediction.�
Jun 14, 2016
Garlan Garner Hmmmm. Great observation. I agree Tesla. People east of California have money too, Maybe they can't get new Model S's this far east (Chicago).
I suppose I could just buy the new Model S if I really wanted to. I suppose I don't need an invitation from Tesla to buy one.�
Jun 14, 2016
S'toon I got the email this afternoon, and I live in the middle of the Canadian prairies. They probably are just sending them out in batches, not all at once.�
Jun 14, 2016
182RG Maybe they're sending them to people who complain the least on TMC. Aww *sugar*, I'll never get an email.....�
Jun 14, 2016
Garlan Garner me neither.�
Jun 14, 2016
S4WRXTTCS The best thing about getting a Model S before the Model 3 becomes available? You get to use the supercharger network before it's absolutely clogged.
To me it made all the sense in the world to come out with a cheaper one.
The more pre-orders for the Model 3 that they can switch over to the Model S the better.
Honestly if I was still sitting on the fence this would have pushed me over. It gives a buyer pretty much all the benefits of the 75/75D while costing $8500 less. It won't take any longer to charge to X number of miles than it does in a 75D. As long as X is within the capabilities of the software limit.
It's a good deal. Not as good of a deal as a Model 3, but that's years away.�
Jun 14, 2016
S'toon You just haven't been looking where I've been doing my complaining.�
Jun 14, 2016
SMSMD Are you taking the bait for Model S 60 or waiting for M3�
Jun 14, 2016
S'toon There are no superchargers within driving distance of even a 90D of me, or even 100D. No superchargers, no road trips. I also am not willing to fork over the what is it, $1500 for a ranger visit if I need an emergency visit.
I'm not like some of my fellow Saskatchewanians who are willing to take a 2 day drive to Calgary, a trip which would normally take 6 or 7 hours.�
Jun 14, 2016
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Jun 14, 2016
xav- It doesn't necessarily
my point being its not because it used to be $2k for the model s that it will be $2k or less for the 3. I would argue that the average user of the model 3 is far more likely to abuse superchargers (less likely to live in a house, no 220v option, younger etc) than the average model s user. Also there will be so many model3s.
Therefore when comparing the S to the 3 I would tend to use a higher price point than $2k for supercharging.�
Jun 14, 2016
hockeythug Oh, so all of us Model 3 buyers are poor, young, supercharger abusers? I know that is what you mean. All of us poor folk are gonna take your supercharger stalls.�
Jun 14, 2016
S4WRXTTCS I view it more as a growing pains problem. Where it's going to take awhile to scale to all the new Model 3 buyers as rapidly as they sell cars.
I would also argue that Model 3 buyers will likely be less abusive since I predict that they'll have to pay per charge. So they really won't be able to abuse it even if they wanted to.�
Jun 14, 2016
Canuck I agree with the sarcasm. Some of the cheapest people I know are also the richest people I know. Some of the most generous and considerate people I know don't have a lot of money. Please let's not make this issue a class issue.
The problem with the Model 3 and Supercharging (if any) has nothing to do with rich vs. poor (or less rich) but only with the fact that with a ton more Teslas on the road there will be more people at the Superchargers and more people, rich and less rich, who may not consider that there's anything wrong with local Supercharging, with an available home charger, simply to save a buck.�
Jun 14, 2016
lklundin There is a subtle but significant difference between "to make Tesla offer an optional tow hitch" and your "optional tow hitch", which I presume is some aftermarket product (that one cannot configure on the Tesla web-site).
In some countries only trivial changes to the vehicle are allowed after the regulatory body has examined and OK'ed that type of vehicle.
Otherwise the car will not pass the regulator's recurring inspection (and your insurance will not cover your loss when your trailer falls off and your Arabian stallion must be carted off to the soap factory).
So the tow hitch really has to (optionally) be offered by Tesla.
Hence the petition.
PS. On the topic of permission: without asking, many non-native English speaking people have decided to use the English language for their communication. So from use of English language one cannot deduce that the relevant locale is for example the USA.�
Jun 14, 2016
jkk_ So in about 2-3 pages another thread turned in to supercharger debate where all the model 3 owners will ruin the world. At times I wonder if the model S owners do anything else expect sit at superchargers since there is absolutely no way that model 3 owners will do anything else but block access to those chargers. And it is also completely unfathomable that some model 3 owners might have other charging options.�
Jun 14, 2016
S4WRXTTCS The heart of the fear is about scalability. Will the network and alternatives scale in time for such a massive increase in supercharger capable cars? We don't really know. Some might be fearful (as I am), and some might be hopeful. There was also fear of overcrowding due to the Model X, but that hasn't really materialized yet due to the production delays the Model X has experienced.
What's absolutely key is for the growth rate to be manageable. The success of the new Model S 60 along with an increase in the Model X production should help the growth rate of the supercharge network and alternatives.
Right now it's really too soon to worry too much about what will happen when the Model 3 is released. There is huge growth in electrical vehicles and infrastructure going on right now. So things could look very different by 2018-2019�
Jun 14, 2016
S4WRXTTCS How can people even have an argument about someone trying to save a buck when we don't even know how Model 3 owners will pay for Supercharging? People are really getting carried away with fear regarding local supercharging. We also know there have been tons of studies that suggest the rich are more likely to cheat. So it's most definitely not a rich vs. semi-rich issue.
I personally feel as if the whole local supercharging fear is overblown, and tends to overshadow the bigger problem of supercharger availability during the weekends and during holidays. Then you have to factor in the semi-autonomous driving capabilities of the Model 3. Those are going to be higher than the current capabilities of the Model S/X. So that's going to encourage people to go on trips with them.�
Jun 15, 2016
Siciliano I got that exact email, and I'm in NY, so it's not just a CA thing. I've scheduled a test drive for this coming Monday, so they've succeeded at piquing my interest.
Now I'm just trying to figure out in which scenario I will lose the least amount of money. I have a 2012 Range Rover I'm going to trade-in with about $15k positive equity. Will I lose less money if I just wait two years and then trade it in (I will have made 2 more years of payments, but of course it will continue to depreciate as well), or trade it in now for the S, then trade in the S in two years??? I think newer vehicles depreciate faster, so I might be better off just waiting? I'm not sure what to do... if it's only a difference of a few thousand I will just get the S right now. Also, would I get two tax incentive breaks, one for each car??
I guess I'll work the math all out with the folks at the dealership on Monday. Something tells me I'm going to be driving home with the Tesla either way lol�
Jun 15, 2016
182RG Actually, I was BS'ing. I got my email last Thursday. It's compelling..I'm just not ready.�
Jun 15, 2016
Garlan Garner Will Tesla take the MS back when the M3 comes out?�
Jun 15, 2016
182RG If you lease, sure. They'll take it back.�
Jun 15, 2016
nexsuperne101 I have a test drive of the Model S booked on the 13th July, just to see what it is all about. The S60 is affordable for me (just). I know that they will probably do the test drive in a P90DL, but I need a better job for one of those!�
Jun 15, 2016
DrivingTheFuture Enjoy the test drive, and you'll be well taken care of- great staff at the Cincinnati store... that's where I waited in line and reserved my 3�
Jun 15, 2016
Chopr147 I am going on a test drive this Friday 6/17. These are some of the questions I am going to ask. Thinking of possibly leasing for 2 years until the M3 comes out.�
Jun 15, 2016
miriel I was checking my email early Friday morning and saw this email - my husband and I are exactly the target for it.
We are in the market for a new car and have been going back and forth between a Tesla and a BMW 328GT. When the Model 3 was announced, we placed our deposit but wasn't sure if we wanted to wait a few years to get it.
Woke him up at 3am to say I have decided and want a Model S60. So Friday after work, we went to Tesla to test drive and order. So excited now.�
Jun 15, 2016
Chopr147 Good for you. As for my test drive I did the smart thing (not usual for me�
Jun 15, 2016
TTBHG So your $66,000 non-stripped car is going to get an extra $3500 worth of options immediately; add in that cost and the taxes associated with those costs and you are now at $70,000. That's before most people would factor in dual motors, leather seats, upgraded wheels, upgraded sound, upgraded roof, etc.
Now, those options might not mean much to you, so by all means, go buy a stripped down car. Yes, a Tesla base car is a very nice car but it still takes a pile of money in upgrades to make it a luxury car.
I can get every option I want on a model 3, and still save a ton of money over the base model S.�
Jun 15, 2016
dhanson865 You list 7 optionals and say etc at the end and somehow think not having all those options is stripped. Whatever.
Basically your entire argument comes down to the fact that the $60,000 car doesn't have the same features as a $110,000 car. Gee, you think?
As to what we can get on a Model 3 vs Model S and how much it will cost, we just don't know yet. You'll have to wait until after the Model 3 part two reveal, and then to see if the Model S gets similar refreshes and then wait for pricing of both in late 2017/early 2018 to even have a chance to discuss this with any certainty.
We have similar threads here about Model S vs Model X, one is more expensive than the other but both are luxury cars. Both have things about them that the other doesn't have. There will always be someone trying to say one or the other is better. But the price differential between the two has changed several times just in the last few months. I expect that to continue to change. I suppose we are doomed to listen to people naysay about the price difference between the 3 and the S for the next two years or so.�
Jun 15, 2016
Siciliano You're stating the obvious. Yes, the S is more costly...BUT, if you're driving something right now that you're looking to trade in two/three years, you're losing $$ no matter what.
So the question is: is there really *that* big of a difference between keeping my current vehicle and letting it depreciate for 2 or so more years, then trading it in for the 3, as opposed to trading it in right now for the S60D, and trading in the S when the 3 is released...?
I will find out the answer to that on Monday after my test drive.�
Jun 15, 2016
Yeomen According to our own unscientific poll it looks like 15-20% of M3 res holders could be swayed. Based on current M3 reservations that could mean 45-60k of new MS demand. But at depressed margins given the battery size of the 60.
What is your true Model 3 budget?�
Jun 15, 2016
TTBHG That's where you're wrong. That's the exact opposite of what I'm arguing. I'm arguing that a $60,000 car WILL have most, if not all of those options, I listed and it'll still cheaper by many thousands of dollars than a stripped down S with zero options.
Now, if you want to argue its smaller, that's fine. If you need a bigger car or you need it now then go get an S. If you're talking about the best value for your money, it's not even close.
I think people are under the assumption that I'm hating on the S and that's not correct. It is a beautiful car and it has great features. If Tesla wasn't building a model 3 I would buy an S.�
Jun 15, 2016
xav- For the record I live in a rental with costly option for 220v. Drive a $22k otd car bought in 2009, and I was in line on the 3/31 in the morning.
Is a guy like me far more likely to use the local superchargers than my neighbors who own $100k+ Teslas? I think so. That's why I argue that using $2k price point as reference for unlimited supercharging is likely incorrect. That's my personal opinion I am sorry if I offended anyone.�
Jun 15, 2016
miriel I was in the same boat as your wife last March�
Jun 15, 2016
N5329K They will have to upsell my garage to fit the S first.
Robin�
Jun 15, 2016
Siciliano The poll is somewhat flawed if it didn't include the option, "I have a reservation for the model 3, and I'm buying the new model S... BUT, when the 3 comes out I'll be trading in the S."
I'm going on Monday for a test drive and to work out the numbers, and I may very well be in that boat. No matter what happens though - whether I trade my car in now and get the not-so-loaded S, or wait 2 years - I'm ultimately going to end up getting the loaded 3.�
Jun 15, 2016
EaglesPDX If they'd add the $750 towing option, it would be tempting.�
Jun 16, 2016
Jleafs Ontario resident here, and I also got the email. For us, the EV incentives are tremendously cut back if the MSRP exceeds approx. $57K (basically only Teslas), and the new S60 is still well above that. It's about a $7.5K difference on incentives alone compared to the Model 3.
I'd be comparing a base model S60 for $64K vs. model 3 loaded with $20K of options for $48K. Kinda of a no-brainer to at least wait.�
Jun 16, 2016
etm33 Hi, my name is Eric and I'm a Teslaholic...
This will be 11. My 10th unofficially was last Wednesday, when a local owner offered and I wasn't going to say "no"�
Jun 16, 2016
juanmedina I also got the same email. I got tempted and I even talked to the wife about getting the S60 instead of the M3. But I am looking to get the P version of the M3 with the ludicrous mode so I am going to wait since I would like some good performance. I just hope that I don't miss out on the tax incentive. I placed my order on the 31st about a minute before they open the online reservations; I live in South Carolina.�
Jun 17, 2016
pangolina These emails are probably received in locations where Tesla can sell cars directly... Just a guess.
I had too many test drives already, so my email address may pretty well be in a special 'never-ever-ever contact him/her' list�
Jun 17, 2016
KZKZ I received the same email and will consider a S60, and also looking at a used S. The $30K jump between the 3 and S is a bit steep though.�
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