Apr 22, 2016
Pieter Knispel Happy Model 3 reserver here, approximately 105,000th in line, and first post! I have recently just become aware that in Canada the premium for the Performance package on the Model S is nearly 30k, and why our dollar is in the tank at the moment, is there any sense of what the performance upgrade will cost for the Model 3, in either USD or CAD?
Any insight or help would be appreciated... I am totally on board to pay the 3-5K for AWD, but I am trying to guestimate how much I need to set aside for options! Thanks in advance, fellow Tesla aficionados!�
Apr 22, 2016
vjason Depends on when you want the car I guess.
If what Elon says is true (highly optioned go first), and the Model X is an indicator of how things will be, the upgraded battery pack is probably required if you want to see your car before 2019. Remember, the first year of production (if not year and a half or more) is probably sold out at this point.
Just my worthless guess, but if Elon thinks the average sale price will be 42K (his words), I'm thinking 50 is where "highly optioned" begins. That probably isn't highly optioned for an S or X (relative to base price), but I have a feeling that it may be a reasonable guess for a 3 given that a decent chunk of those reservations probably just want to spend 35K.�
Apr 22, 2016
Dan Detweiler All of the talk over on the Model 3 Owners page is that $45-50,000 should get you a very well equipped car. Larger battery, dual motor, glass roof, autopilot, upgraded interior, etc. I tend to think it might be a little more than that for all those features but I am budgeting $50,000 for mine and I hope to have all of the above.
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Apr 22, 2016
jonnyg I would take all of the options pricing for the S and X which are very similar or the same for most options I think, and apply that to the Model 3. We know dual motor will be cheaper, and probably the larger battery won't be 13k, but I would assume everything else is the same for budgeting purposes and have it be a happy surprise/bonus if it's cheaper. I'd rather be pessimistic now than be too optimistic and then be bummed when pricing is revealed.
As mentioned above though, there are several threads where people are speculating about options and have even given links to their google docs spreadsheets for calculating costs.�
Apr 22, 2016
vjason That does seem low for all those features, if only because of the upgraded battery. I can't see it being any less than 50K for all those things, that's for sure.
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Apr 22, 2016
Dan Detweiler For what it's worth (absolutely nothing!) here are the Model S upgrade prices for what I would get on a Model 3:
Base Car $35000
Dual Motor $5000
Larger Battery $13000
Paint Upgrade $1000
Autopilot $2500
Interior Package $3000
Sub Zero (heated seats and wheel) $1000
Panoramic Roof $1500
Leather Seats $2500
Wood D�cor $750
Total $65250
Ouch!!
I hope these numbers come down somewhat!
Dan�
Apr 22, 2016
StraightDave If those number come close to what you have, then I see probably half the reservations going away. And if that happens then so will Tesla. Musk advertised an affordable $35k car plus the tax credit and I bet a huge chunk of people who reserved are expecting a $35 car, not $50k�
Apr 22, 2016
AZ Desert Driver Yer right - Ouch. If these are the right prices...I may not buy leather/interior/wood at $6,250. Vegan may be enough. Subzero package in the desert is not a requirement either. But the rest of those options seem to be not optional.
How big is base battery? and how big is optional battery? I've heard (soft word, no fact) 50 kWh base and 100 kWh top end. That may be worth $13k. but 60 to 75 kWh would not seem like a good value.�
Apr 22, 2016
Dan Detweiler Bottom line...nobody knows anything!
It was just said that the base model would have a 215 mile range. Remember, my prices in my list are for those options as they stand right now on a Model S. Who knows what they will cost on a Model 3.
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Apr 22, 2016
Dan Detweiler Perhaps this comparison is more accurate.
A base Model S with nothing on it is about $70,000. A maxed out Ludicrous Mode, every option Model S is about $140,000...about twice the price.
A base Model 3 with nothing on it is about $35,000 (we think). A maxed out Ludicrous Mode, every option Model 3 is about $70,000? That would be about twice the price.
No idea if that train of thought would hold any water or not.
Dan�
Apr 22, 2016
seattlite2004 My pricing guestimate based on Model S and X...guess prices can only come down, so this is **probably** worst case..unless they raise prices. Gotta pay to play.....
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Apr 22, 2016
AZ Desert Driver Are you saying that the "90" will be awd...no option? and that is a component to the $13k and $33k upgrades?
Did I read that right - you think that P90D will add $33,000 to the base? Doubling the cost of the car with one option?
I so hope you are way off base. Got nutten to argue with, just OMG I hope you are wrong.�
Apr 22, 2016
Dan Detweiler I have no doubt that you will be able to get a pretty nice car for the $35,000 advertised. I was just adding up the options that I would get based on current Model S prices for the same options. I think much of these upgrades will be less in the Model 3 so hopefully the final number will be closer to 50K. That's a lot of car for 50K, at least in my opinion.
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Apr 22, 2016
seattlite2004 Just using the S configurator and prices. The S 90D has AWD included. Difference between the base S 70D and the base S P90D is 33K. Did not factory in % of price..just going off price difference between base S 70D and base s P90D. If S/X option prices are indicative of Model 3 option prices...the options will bring the price up very quickly...no different than other car companies...�
Apr 22, 2016
FirstSea I agree, I believe Musk when he said that even the base car will be awesome.
But for my purposes AP, awd, and a bigger battery are a must, I just hope I don't have to go over 50k...�
Apr 22, 2016
Kiwi808 Don't forget $10,000 ludacrus option = $99,500.lol...So the Model S battery upgrade (90D)includes dual motors for $13,000 but the next upgrade P90D costs $33,000 for the same battery,but larger rear motor?Remember the $5,000 upgrade is for base model / Dual motor�
Apr 22, 2016
bigtesraz If you look at the price for the base model S and X, then max out the cost of both cars there is a increase of appx. 70% of the base price.
So, based on using this same appx. percentage, the maxed out value for the Model 3 will be appx. $60,000 with all the bells and whistles.�
Apr 22, 2016
Sharkbait Unfortunately, a loaded M3 at $70K would probably be a deal breaker for me.�
Apr 22, 2016
david_42 Assuming the CUV is decent, we will probably just buy the basic vehicle. Neither of us are big on speed and the standard range is plenty. Wheels, meh. AWD has little or no value in our area, etc.�
Apr 23, 2016
S3XY Elon has already tweeted that the Dual motor option will be less than $5k. How much less is up for debate but I think it's fair to assume that the M3 options will cost less than the S & X options. I'm hoping I can get AWD, upgraded battery, autopilot, winter package, and maybe one or two other small options for low $50's and have the Federal credit get me to around $45k.�
Apr 23, 2016
03DSG Hi, I'm an hour east of TO. This isn't really about your direct question but about CDN cost period. I've been running Ontario pricing vs the US.Here's the 'current' problem. Lets take a model S 70D, the least expensive 4 wheel D model for our winters. The new cash price in the US is $76,500. Up here it is $103,800 CDN. About 35% higher. ALL the Tesla's up here are 35% higher in CDN. ALL the options up here are about 32.5% higher in CDN. So lets take a base M3 at $35k USD and add 4k D, 7k battery and 6k in nice options. That gives us $52k USD. Now add the 6.1% duty and we are at $55.2k USD. Now add 35% exchange currently charged and we are at $74,500 CDN + 1300 PDI = $75.8k. Then add our 13% HST and we are at $85,600 CDN. We WILL get a total of $14k for the Ontario EV rebate/Home charger cost in cash. That's still $71,600.
Now I'm depressed.........�
Apr 23, 2016
StraightDave And you get can buy that pretty nice car in 2025.�
Apr 23, 2016
FloridaGary The only price you listed above that I would question is the $13k for a battery upgrade. I would guess 1/2 that price.�
Apr 24, 2016
Dan Detweiler Hope you're right!�
Apr 24, 2016
mhan00 If you need your car to be fully loaded before you buy, then this might not be the market segment for you. A 3 series can get crazy expensive if you fully load it. I expect a Model 3 to be the same.�
Apr 24, 2016
DavidP Me too, I'm worried about the CDN price. Why their CND pricing are so high compare to other car manufacturer?
Exemple:
BMW 328i X=35000usd>40000cnd
Leaf=29000usd>32700cnd
I know the exchange rate in 2018 is unknown, but this issue will surely be a deal breaker for a lot of Canadian...�
Apr 24, 2016
Dan Detweiler I wonder what percentage of Model 3 buyers will opt for an absolute base model, $35,000 car. I would guess relatively few. I am guessing the majority will get a fairly well upgraded car.�
Apr 24, 2016
diamond.g I suspect that every option that isn't just turning on some software will be cheaper than the equivalent on the MS and MX. AP and Supercharging will probably stay the same price.�
Apr 24, 2016
1.21 Jiggawatts Yikes that really scares me as well. I'm in sask and we get no EV rebates whatsoever. That duty is a killer. Here's to hoping the dollar surges back to near parity�
Apr 24, 2016
1.21 Jiggawatts Since this car is manufactured in North America, do we really have to pay duty on it as well?�
Apr 24, 2016
Canuck1966 I think the final fully optioned Model 3 will be $60000-$65000. That is what I am preparing for anyway.�
Apr 24, 2016
DavidP Because Tesla doesn't meet some Canadian requirements, an adittionnal 6% Duty fee is applied. You cannot buy Tesla cars in the US for that reason too...Check separate thread: ''Canadian price increase imminent''�
Apr 24, 2016
vjason Seems a bit anti-progressive for Canuckistan. You'd think they'd have an exemption for low or zero emission vehicles.
Will be intersecting to see if Trudeau considers something like that.
Disclaimer: Not a Canadian citizen, but definitely a fan. Many a fond New Years/other trips were spent in Toronto/London when I was 19-20.
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Apr 24, 2016
timk225 I don't know how anyone can estimate $13,000 for a bigger battery. Let's presume the base battery is 60 KW, and the upgraded one is 90 KW. If Tesla gets their cost down to $250 per KW with the Gigafactory running, then $250 X 30 = $7500 . All the other parts of the battery pack are there, and if Tesla is going to do things as efficiently as possible, there will be only one battery tray for all the Model 3's, the 60 KW version will just have less batteries and cooling stuff in it, but those parts are easily dropped in to make a 90 KW pack.�
Apr 24, 2016
mhan00 Tesla is not going to be selling us an upgraded option at cost. Period. Their margin for the base model is likely to be very, very thin. It's pretty safe to assume Tesla will be selling an option like an upgraded battery pack for at least double or triple or more of what it costs them. They need to make money on the Model 3 or they will sink themselves very, very quickly.�
Apr 24, 2016
MP3Mike $13k is the cost to go from the 70 kWh to the 90 kWh battery on a Model S. I would expect the cost to be half of that for the Model 3.
But, they may include Supercharging in the upgraded battery pack which could add a couple thousand dollars.�
Apr 25, 2016
Pieter Knispel Thanks for all the input and responses everyone! 03DSG that is depressing indeed... I may have to just "settle" for the base model but I reallllly don't want to; I wanted the dual motor and a few other options. I guess time will tell but it really blows that after so many darned years this is the time the dollar starts to tank!! Sheesh.�
Apr 25, 2016
Pieter Knispel Maybe this will change on Tesla's behalf before the model 3 goes into production? If the other car manufacturers maintain the prices of those examples above, I would really hope Tesla could do something about it. Elon spent some of his formative years in Toronto and Canada, so maybe he's got a soft spot for us!
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Apr 25, 2016
AZ Desert Driver Tesla makes cars...compelling cars. They do not control the financial markets of the world. Canadian/US exchange rates are out of Tesla control. A fellow in China just paid $400,000 to get his $140,000 Tesla home. Same car, but "others" get their fingers into the pie. I submit YOU have a better chance at changing the tariff structure in your home jurisdiction than does Tesla.�
Apr 25, 2016
Pieter Knispel I agree with you 100% there with respect to the general exchange rates and overall lack of control. I was only meaning to say that somehow Nissan and a couple of the other car companies have minimized the exchange rate, or rather found a way to hedge against them, or perhaps even have just eaten the difference, or done something else, to keep the difference lower than 35%. Even just more accurately reflecting the rates so that times like right now, the exchange rate we have to pay is 17 or 18 percent, rather than 35.�
Apr 25, 2016
ModelNforNerd
You have to check many boxes to double the price of a Model S 70...and not just getting to Ludicrous. You have to add things like leather, smart air susp, etc to get there.
I highly doubt you'll double the price of the Model 3 just on drivetrain. They're going to want you to check some interior, paint, and roof options too.�
Apr 25, 2016
Dan Detweiler I don't think anybody is estimating anything at this point, we are just using the worst case scenario of current Model S prices. Anything less will be a nice surprise.
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Apr 25, 2016
seattlite2004 From this thread about 3%: What is your true Model 3 budget?
About 70% want to spend below 50K on the car.�
Apr 25, 2016
Dan Detweiler Yeah, it seems that there are so many people that will opt for the larger battery, they might as well just upsize the standard battery and range and be done with it. I think just about everyone is willing to pay for an extra 50 miles or so of range.�
Apr 25, 2016
jandkw I own the S60 and did reserve the Model 3. I envision the M3 option pricing can be 80% of MS so the M3 and options I want are:
Base $35,000
Battery Upgrade $10,400 (280-300 range)
Metallic Paint $800
Pano Roof $1,200
Next Gen Seat $2,000 (hope this is part of the base offering)
Wood D�cor $600
Auto Pilot $2,000 (hardware enabled, pay for AP software, I think)
Premium Upgrade $2,400
Premium Audio $2,000
Total $56,400�
Apr 25, 2016
Dale Reynolds I placed my reservation on the Model 3 about 48 hours after the launch (yeah, I'm slow on the uptake), so I am around the 300,000th customer. I know that the official option list has not been released, but I have a question as to the stereo system on current Model S cars.
From what I can tell they charge around $2500 for the upgraded 12-speaker system. I'd like to ask any current Model S owner with the premium stereo whether it meets your expectations? This may seem shallow, but having a good stereo system during the commute is critical for me. I don't care so much about the other bells and whistles.�
Apr 25, 2016
Dan Detweiler I know this isn't what you're looking for but what kind of audio system could you have put in it for $2500? Or even $1000?
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Apr 25, 2016
voip-ninja In the case of BMW they actually have three audio systems. In the United States all cars get the "business" audio and it pretty much sucks (and it's actually the mid-level system, I can only think about how horrid the base level one is). Harman Kardon upgrade is about $1000 and is a massive upgrade. Car gets better drivers, more of them, better subwoofers, much better amps, 7 channel user programmable EQ, etc.
I would have a very hard time justifying a $2,000 audio upgrade on a mid-size sedan. At that price I would be tempted to just go with an aftermarket speaker upgrade.
Again comparing to BMW there are several "drop in" replacement kits for the factory audio that bring it to a whole new level and don't require professional installation.�
Apr 25, 2016
Sharkbait The BMW selling model is somewhat like Henry Ford's and more. Allegedly, Ford's MO was to sell the car as cheaply as possible to the masses but make his money on 'parts' (maintenance). Remember, back then you could get a Ford in any color you wanted as long as it was black. There were no options.
I don't know what the mystic is about BMW, but I suspect their cars spend a lot more time in automotive service departments than any Tesla will. I think 'extra' maintenance is built into the car. Before I would pay $2,000 for an audio upgrade, I would take delivery of whatever it came with and install a top-tier system for half the price. Besides, at 68 my hearing cannot much tell the difference between a $100 system and a $2,000 system.�
Apr 25, 2016
voip-ninja My BMW requires a service visit once a year or 10K miles. Incidentally Tesla recommends an annual service on their cars.
The difference is the maintenance on my BMW is included for four years or 50K miles. On the Tesla it is $565 a year.�
Apr 25, 2016
Sharkbait Not really an indicator of how much time the vehicle will spend in the shop, even if the maintenance is free. My 2013 Toyota Prius had free maintenance for two years. But other than synthetic oil changes and 'inspections', it hasn't seen a day in the shop for a maintenance issue. One case doesn't cover all vehicles but it's a great reason to park a Toyota ICE vehicle next to one's Tesla.
My third car, a 1997 Toyota Camry, hasn't seen a day in the shop for other than oil changes since I acquired it two years ago. I'll be proud to park it alongside my M3 and hope the Tesla can match it.�
Aug 11, 2016
Jskillz860 It would be nice if tesla would give us some option pricing so we can all budget early for the options we want, who knows when that will happen�
Aug 11, 2016
Az_Rael I'll bet the first we see of options pricing is when the employees get let into the configurator and post screen shots for us here (hopefully). So it probably won't be until pretty late in the game.�
Aug 12, 2016
JeffK Budget for an optioned Model S, and then be pleasantly surprised when the Model 3 is less expensive. I want a fully optioned model so I'm going to budget for 80k. I'm going to have nowhere near that much cash, but if it's closer to 60k then I might actually get approved for financing for the difference haha.
Note: When referring to the Model 3 I always like to say "less expensive" than use the word "cheaper"
If by some miracle the fully loaded model is $60k or less expensive than the base model BMW M3 then I'm going to be one happy camper.
Now back to selling my organs on the black market...�
Aug 12, 2016
ModelNforNerd
LOL, I'm budgeting for ~$75K. Not sure if I'll need "Premium Interior Package" or UHFS.
But I'm probably checking every other box, even tow package after some thought.
I'll have just about enough to buy the car outright on delivery. If not, I'll take out a small car loan and use the sale of my Audi to pay that off and replenish my savings.
I've planned for a Dec 2017-ish delivery, and obviously the further to the right that slips on the calendar, the better...for my savings anyway. Obviously I want the car sooner.�
Aug 12, 2016
ModelNforNerd
This is probably the most likely scenario, but I think we may get some vague ballpark numbers out of Elon at Reveal Part Deux.
Something along the lines of "expect to pay roughly (fill in the blank) dollars US for a Ludicrous Mode Model 3".
and then of course, we will all jump on here and try to extrapolate the cost of the car, based on a vague number like that....cuz it's what we do here, apparently. LOL�
Aug 12, 2016
Jskillz860 I placed my reservation around the 360,000 mark. And I'm on the east coast. I plan on getting middle of the road options, somewhere around 50,000/55,000 dollar range. If I get more than middle for that price than I'll also be happy haha. Planning on getting it hopefully before mid 2018. We will see!�
Aug 12, 2016
ModelNforNerd I reserved around 10:30am ET on the 1st day, so I'm in the top ~115,000 worldwide, so maybe top ~100K US..... (but all of that speculation is for another thread. LOL)
I think if you're approaching 55K, you'll probably have either all of the interior options, Dual Motor, but maybe not max battery.
Or you could end up with max battery, no interior upgrades.
Depends on what you want, really. I see you're in CT, so I'll assume you're at least going with Dual Motor.�
Aug 12, 2016
FloridaGary For those of you budgeting $60k - $80k for the M3, is there any reason why you don't purchase a Model S now?�
Aug 12, 2016
MP3Mike Because $60-80k doesn't get you the same level of features/performance in a Model S. (Not to mention it is a bigger car, and not a sedan.)�
Aug 12, 2016
ModelNforNerd
I have a one-car garage, so the size of the car is a consideration.
And $60-80K buys me a (nearly?) loaded 3, whereas the same money would buy a just-over base Model S.�
Aug 12, 2016
WileyTheMan That's a good question. For me, its' a three-fold answer:
1) I am not in a position to get a new car until next year, so the timing of the M3 works well.
2) $60k-$80k gets you a bare bones or moderately optioned MS, where that same money will probably get you a highly optioned (Ludicrous) M3.
3) I really don't want/need such a large car like the MS.
Basically if the M3 wasn't on the horizon, none of these points would be valid and I'd just be biding my time until I had the money for an MS.�
Aug 12, 2016
Jskillz860 Yes! I am definitely going with dual motor, I'll see what the hp rating is before I make a battery decision but dual motor is for sure�
Aug 12, 2016
Jskillz860 My list of must have options goes
Dual motor
Auto pilot
Super charging
Next I will look at bigger battery, sound system, colors and wheels.
Was debating on the 18 inch vs 20 inch wheels. I hope the 18 inch have a sharp look to them, I would like deep blue with carbon grey wheels�
Aug 13, 2016
Sharkbait Ya, my post got a couple "dislikes" when I estimated that my nicely configured M3 would be over $70K. With 4 years of prepaid service, taxes and DMV fees, I think it will be more like $80K (not counting on Fed. tax credit or State rebate). If I get it all the better.
So I got a call from Tesla (Fremont) earlier this week. They wanted to know if I wanted to take a test drive in a Model S. What the heck, the showroom is only 15 miles from the house. So with tax credits and rebates worth about $10K, I could probably get the Model S for $100K after the credit and rebate. I'll see how the test drive goes. I'm sure I'll be impressed.
I also received a "Do Not Bend" 8 X 11 envelope from Tesla a couple days ago. Inside was a folding card with sketches of the M3 and a thank you card for "Ordering" the M3. LOL, Guess Elon is optimistic about reservations turning into orders. OTOH, his sales folk are steering me to a Model S. We'll see.�
Aug 13, 2016
JeffK Lots of upfront cash is needed for the Model 3 and Gigafactory ramp ups, they figure you won't just get the base Model S and you'll option it in some way to increase their margins. Then you'll sell it when the Model 3 is released and buy an even more spec'd out version. For Tesla this would be a win-win.�
Aug 21, 2016
kenbefound Adds up fast (and for those wanting Super Charger access add an additional $2K to the $65K). With over 400K pre-orders Tesla will have no trouble selling the Model 3 at the above price point for quite some time. So I see no incentive on their part to do otherwise. Personally I will have to do some serious soul searching to fork over that kind of cash for a depreciating asset. But I suspect I will have a couple more years to mull it over and a lot could change between now then.�
Aug 21, 2016
Jskillz860 It's already been said by Elon that the dual motor will cost less, I'm expecting most other option will too. Anything size or battery related�
Aug 22, 2016
ModelNforNerd
You're making a leap here......
Why would Supercharger access by itself be $2,000?
If your sticker price is ~$65,000, I'm assuming you've checked multiple boxes, likely including Dual Motor, and the larger battery pack. In current Teslas, buying the larger battery pack includes Supercharger access. Be careful assuming that it will be a separate charge. At this point, it hasn't been confirmed what the Supercharger access pricing model for Model 3 will be, but if you start off by adding more money to your assumed price than need be, you're going to think the car may be out of your range, when it's really not.�
Aug 22, 2016
dsvick Keep in mind that the option prices you quoted from Dan are what they currently cost for the MS, it is widely believed/hoped that they will all be less on the M3. And some, like the dual motor, we are positive will be less.�
Aug 22, 2016
MiamiNole Aww man, I saw the new activity in this thread thinking there had been more news on option pricing.�
Aug 22, 2016
eladts It makes no sense for the Model 3 to have a P version without AWD. Since AWD was introduced all the P models have it. If you look how the Model S is structured it makes sense to have this structure, where every option includes all the former ones.
- Base
- AWD
- Extended Battery
- Performance
- Ludicrous
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Aug 22, 2016
wallet.dat For those of you who are assuming that upgrades for the Mod3 will cost the same as they do on the S, are you also assuming power levels will be the same as well? Because that would be awesome.�
Aug 22, 2016
Neohippy Im really hoping the power levels will be the same. I would have no problem paying 70k for a Ludicrous M3�
Aug 23, 2016
MiamiNole So stemming from today's announcement about the 100 kWh battery for the Model S and X, there apparently were some unannounced changes to some options as well:
- The cost of the Auto-Pilot option increased from $2500 to $3000
- The cost of the Premium Package increased from $3000 to $3500
Got this from the announcement thread. The design studio isn't working so I haven't been able to corroborate this myself. Wonder if this will mean anything regarding Model 3 options (especially AP)?�
Aug 23, 2016
JeffK This would make sense... they are in money making mode to afford the necessary capital.
It also looks like the high amperage charger is built into every car and can be enabled after delivery...!!�
Aug 23, 2016
jsrawa Correct me if I'm wrong but I think the high amperage charger was previously included with possible software upgrade.
I have to be honest I'm a little disappointed in the price hike for the AP and premium upgrade. I know they are in need of $$ now but I think it will also translate to higher cost on the ? when we finally get our cars, $500 more each is significant.�
Aug 23, 2016
JeffK I don't remember if that was always software upgradable. I doubt it will translate into higher Model 3 costs. As a matter of fact this move will probably please investors who were wondering how Tesla was going to try to raise the required funds.
There are cooled seats now at least with certain colors in the performance model�
Aug 23, 2016
alseTrick No. No it is not. An easy example is Autopilot. It is going to cost the same for the S, X and 3. Because it requires the same software and hardware.
The only areas where we can be certain of lower, differentiated prices are the motors and battery sizes.�
Aug 23, 2016
alseTrick The premium package includes ventilated seats now.
The autopilot package almost definitely includes the new hardware.
This isn't Tesla simply jacking up the prices to squeeze out some extra cash from consumers. It's not a capital raise.�
Aug 23, 2016
MP3Mike The ventilated seats are only include if you go with black/tan and get a Performance version. So no ventilated seats on a 90D even with PUP.�
Aug 23, 2016
jsrawa I agree that we could argue that the $500 increase in AP is due to significant upgrades to the entire setup but the $500 increase for the PUP only adds benefits if you purchase a P with black/tan. Seems to me that the $500 increase should only be present on the P model then.�
Aug 24, 2016
dsvick Good point, some of them are not dependent on the size of the car so they may well stay the same as previous models.�
Aug 24, 2016
MiamiNole No guarantee that even the software options will be the same price as the Model X and S. If pricing it less than the Model X and S options increases the number of purchases of those same options on the Model 3, I could see Tesla doing that as the price they choose still achieves a certain profit margin.�
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