Thứ Bảy, 4 tháng 2, 2017

New update this am.... part 1

  • Jul 16, 2016
    blee321
    I got a new update this am... I am scared to execute... Has anyone done it?
  • Jul 16, 2016
    msnow
    Assuming it's 7.1.2.28.19 it's a wide release. Lots of people have installed it don't know if it's been out long enough to know what changed. Keep track of it by going to the end of the following thread.
    Firmware 7.1

    When and if you install it be sure to update Tesla Tracker
    Tesla Firmware Upgrade Tracker Web App
  • Jul 16, 2016
    AndreyATC
    I just got one as well. It shows estimate time of 2 hours 38 minutes to install
    It's the longest I've seen so far
  • Jul 16, 2016
    msnow
    In reality it takes just 30 minutes to install. See above post on where this discussion takes place.
  • Jul 16, 2016
    Ormond
    I don't have a Tesla yet. Is this process similar to a Windows update? Does it download automatically and then one presses execute?
  • Jul 16, 2016
    DFibRL8R
    Generally the car just alerts you that an update is available and you tap the box on the screen to install or delay installation until a later time (can't update while driving :cool:)
  • Jul 16, 2016
    msnow
    Yep, pretty much like that.
  • Jul 16, 2016
    markn455
    Nothing so far. I am at 7.24.30 on a non AP MS 85. I have been at this build for right at a month. Previously it seemed I was getting and update every couple of weeks.

    Anyone with a Non AP Classic MS get the update this morning?
  • Jul 16, 2016
    blee321
    I just want to ensure AP is not disabled... Can anyone confirm this?
  • Jul 16, 2016
    kirkbauer
    I installed an update yesterday night and I used AP this morning.
  • Jul 16, 2016
    dnice
    Got the update as well.

    My car is new and paid for AP. Disabling it would require refunds correct. I dont think they would disable it without communication. But my 1st update so i wouldn't know.
  • Jul 16, 2016
    JPUConn
    Yes. Says 45 min and will install tonight
  • Jul 16, 2016
    brec
    The update is downloaded silently. When the download is complete you receive a notice on the 17" screen -- and on your phone via Tesla's app, if such notifications are enabled -- and you can choose when to install it.

    Each of the 11 notices on the 17" screen that I've had since my car was new has said it will take 1:40 to install, regardless of how long it will actually take. The one that I installed this morning, 2.28.19, took 30 minutes after the prelude, a 2-minute countdown.

    After installing, please update the Tesla Firmware Upgrade Tracker Web App at http://ev-fw.com/track-reports.php
  • Jul 16, 2016
    Model S M.D.
    You are alerted via the Tesla app and your car that a software update is available, and then you can schedule an exact time for this to download and install (i.e. when you're sleeping or otherwise not using the vehicle for an hour or 2). My iPhone requires me to download/install only when I am using my device, can't schedule it :)
  • Jul 16, 2016
    Todd Burch
    Folks, autopilot isn't going anywhere. Relax.
  • Jul 16, 2016
    Model S M.D.
  • Jul 16, 2016
    blee321

    But But Consumers report demanded it! Its seems as if elon always yields when they demand something....
  • Jul 16, 2016
    markn455
    Do you know what build you had before the update was pushed?
  • Jul 16, 2016
    AndreyATC
    2.28.19
    Just noticed autopilot hunting for road the little more
  • Jul 16, 2016
    msnow
    If you mean bounciness I noticed the same thing.
  • Jul 16, 2016
    AndreyATC
    Yes
    It was a bit more stable with prior version
    I'll test it more later with real freeway
  • Jul 16, 2016
    msnow
    Let us know. I'm wondering if they are tweaking the sensors.
  • Jul 16, 2016
    Todd Burch
    I notice nothing different in the 2.18.19 release.
  • Jul 16, 2016
    blee321
    any updates?
  • Jul 16, 2016
    pers1
    2.18.19 the Autopilot I still having problem reacting to people on bicycles, motorbikes no problem. The do not turn up in the display as motorbikes do. I have to step in to avoid hitting cycliest from behind. Thats an improvment Tesla has to work on.

    PerS
  • Jul 16, 2016
    Austin Powers
    Are these cyclists driving on the highway?;)
  • Jul 16, 2016
    dnice
    has anyone tried the new summon feature ?
  • Jul 16, 2016
    Austin Powers
    What's new?
  • Jul 16, 2016
    dnice
    Perpendicular parking from what i believe.. post #1 here Firmware 7.1
  • Jul 16, 2016
    JPUConn
    It's on my loaner vin P243XX. 9/13 build S85

    7.1 2.16.17 before update
  • Jul 16, 2016
    Magus
    Perpendicular parking has been there for awhile now.
  • Jul 17, 2016
    JPUConn
    7.1 2.28.19 after update. Release notes say "this release contains minor fixes and improvements)
  • Jul 17, 2016
    msnow
    Thanks, but as I've said that tells me nothing. What improvements, where?
  • Jul 17, 2016
    tstafford
    I think this is right. I was worried for a minute but Elon's recent statements have given me some comfort.
  • Jul 17, 2016
    nctalkinghead
    I installed xxx.19 update yesterday and found that summon no longer works with the key fob. I had two updates in two days so the first one may have changed this feature. Now summon works only from phone app.
  • Jul 17, 2016
    msnow
    It works. Turn "require continuous press" off.
  • Jul 17, 2016
    emchen
    Thank you for that! Just went to the car, found "settings tab" -> "driver assistance" -> "require continuous press" -> sigh of relief.
  • Jul 17, 2016
    Ciaopec
    I have 2.24.30 on refreshed S. It occasionally hunts on the highway but otherwise stable. Could just be me, but I think the thing has learned to take curves much better. On two separate highways I use, one with a 45 mph curve and the other with a 65 mph curve the car doesn't flinch! Three weeks ago the car (or was it me?:)) couldn't handle either one without intervention.
  • Jul 17, 2016
    eye.surgeon
    try reading the autopilot beta agreement
  • Jul 17, 2016
    eye.surgeon
    LOL. Is the regen weaker also.
  • Jul 17, 2016
    AndreyATC
    I'll be going back home tonight and report
  • Jul 17, 2016
    Phoenixhawk101
    New update reverted my summon to the default setting (button must be held the whole time) not a big deal because I just reset it to the original setting.

    Bigger deal is now summon won't work from my keyfob. Hold the roof and nothing......that sucks because I don't much like using the app for summon.
  • Jul 17, 2016
    msnow
    See post #36 above.
  • Jul 17, 2016
    markn455
    It appears that update have been getting pushed out for a number of days now. I am in a 2014 MS pre AP. In recent months I have been getting regular update. This time perhaps the "Classic" MS is not included. I am currently at 2.24.30. Anyone else with a Classic MS that had 2.24.30 get the update?
  • Jul 17, 2016
    msnow
    Tesla Tracker would have that data.
  • Jul 17, 2016
    Phoenixhawk101
    I should have been more clear:

    By this I mean I turned off "Require Continuous Press". The Keyfob still does not function for summon.
  • Jul 17, 2016
    MarkMpn
    Where is the "Require Continuous Press" option? I just got my MS a few days ago and can't find it under the Summon "Customize" button. Is this a UK restriction? Would love to be able to use it via the fob for when I don't have signal on my phone (e.g. car parks...)
  • Jul 17, 2016
    James Anders
    Any way of telling from the App (or any app) what version of soft/firm ware is running? Or is this something you can only check from the in-car screen?

    -J
  • Jul 17, 2016
    Lerxt
    Not installing an update won't help in this situation. When I had mine switched off in Hong Kong some months ago, it was done with an "invisible" software update. It just happened. No install button, there was no choice.
  • Jul 17, 2016
    msnow
    Weird. Have you tried rebooting both the IC and 17" screens? If that doesn't work email or call the Service Center.
  • Jul 17, 2016
    kirkbauer
    Just drove about 200 miles mostly on AP today (mix of big freeways and smaller highways). I'd say it performed pretty much just like normal. Although on the freeway it completely lost the lines and ended up straddling two lanes until it got back into one of them. I've never seen that happen before although the lines weren't that great and I probably haven't been on that road with AP before.

    Also it was kind of strange. On the highway on AP there were cars stopped at a light and the collision warning alarm went off before AP had a chance to slow down. I'm not sure exactly since I quickly hit the brakes.
  • Jul 17, 2016
    sorka
    ....isn't going anywhere is exactly what would happen if they disable it ;)
  • Jul 17, 2016
    theslimshadyist
    I doubt that will happen, Tesla would have to potentially refund millions of dollars or face a class action lawsuit. ;)
  • Jul 17, 2016
    John Stuckey
    Sort of, no blue screens so far :)
  • Jul 17, 2016
    msnow
    True but there is the occasional and random unintended reboots (just like Windows) :)
  • Jul 17, 2016
    brec
    VisibleTesla is an application for Mac, Windows, and Linux that displays the car's software version.

    TMC thread: VisibleTesla
  • Jul 17, 2016
    Phoenixhawk101
    FYI to anyone else who runs into this, a main screen reboot (both left and right dials pushed in for 10 seconds) resolved my fob issues.
  • Jul 17, 2016
    msnow
    It seems to help a lot of things. ;)
  • Jul 18, 2016
    AndreyATC
    It seems pretty solid after update
    100-mile trip with some stop-n-go traffic, no issues
  • Jul 22, 2016
    jf2go
    Finally got 2.28.19 yesterday. I notice that regen seems a bit weaker as well. I'm using the brakes more than I would normally need to.
  • Jul 22, 2016
    msnow
    If I had a dollar for every time I heard that I'd own a second Model S. :)
  • Jul 22, 2016
    jf2go
    Yep, no empirical data to suggest that anything is different - it just *seems* a bit different. I have only put 75 miles on this update thus far, so maybe the sense will go away after a few more road miles.
  • Jul 22, 2016
    pers1
    Got new version today on my loaner MS P90D V7.1 - V2.28.42.

    Release notes:

    "Minor bugfix and improvements."
  • Jul 22, 2016
    RogerHScott
    Glad to hear it, as someone who routinely uses summon-from-fob. I know a lot of people poo-poo summon, but some of us make
    good use of it on a near-daily basis.

    It'd be kinda nice if the release notes mentioned which settings were altered by each installation so that you don't forget to reset the ones
    you want to keep as they were. I understand why they keep resetting summon-related options, I just want to them to minimize the
    inconvenience of that for owners.
  • Jul 22, 2016
    RogerHScott
    It has been well established that every single release weakens regen. The cars that have received lots of updates now have negative regen -- they speed up when you take your foot off the accelerator! ;)
  • Jul 22, 2016
    KZKZ
    Not a good situation if the collision warning system is activated before AP detects anything. Talk about mode confusion.
  • Jul 23, 2016
    ecarfan
    You are exaggerating. CU recommended a change to the way that the Summon command is initiated. Tesla responded and did it. That was a one time occurrence.

    And to the OP: if you are reluctant to install the latest firmware update because you are afraid that you will lose AP, at this point I see nothing indicating that Tesla is going to take AP away. Nothing.
  • Jul 23, 2016
    eye.surgeon
    LOL
  • Jul 23, 2016
    supratachophobia
    Oh gosh no. Please don't ever make that analogy again.
  • Jul 23, 2016
    msnow
    Except that it works almost exactly like that.
  • Jul 23, 2016
    supratachophobia
    You mean it bricks cars on a regular basis every Tuesday?
  • Jul 23, 2016
    msnow
    Good one! I meant the process not the end result. :)
  • Jul 24, 2016
    hacer
    There is a sharp right turn on the way to my house along a road with a 35 mph speed limit. I have been regularly driving this with TACC set on 35 and have found that if I turn off the TACC just as I pass the speed limit sign before the sharp turn, that the car will slow to the perfect speed for the sharp turn with no other intervention. Except the last time I did this, it was going too fast and I had to apply the brakes. I actually checked my regen setting after this because I thought it might have somehow changed and I'd been feeling like it was weaker during my drive. This was the day after an update, but I didn't think to blame the update at the time. If it's not the re-gen then perhaps they have tweaked the delay between TACC off and regen starting.

    Since it is common for folks to think their re-gen is reduced, could it be that updates sometimes create a glitch that while the car displays the previous "standard" re-gen setting, it is actually using the low setting until you change the setting, or reboot or something like that? I'm going to reboot my center console just in case. If it is a common complaint maybe there is something to it.
  • Jul 24, 2016
    msnow
    I have no idea if they changed the regen settings or not. Obviously there are no real release notes to look at to confirm. All we have is the data from @Ingineer as to which modules were updated on a particular release. As you are aware and what I learned since joining TMC is that after almost every update (and there have been dozens and dozens since I've been around here) there are people who are convinced that regen has been reduced. Personally I have never felt changes to regen but the complaint continues.
  • Jul 25, 2016
    markn455
    I see to be stuck at 2.24.30 that was pushed to my Classic MS on 19-June-2016. Over a month and numerous updates have been pushed since then. I wonder why I have not received a new one. This update seems to be the beginning of my 3G connectivity issues. I wish I could figure out how to get something more recent with having over and hour drive to the SC.
  • Jul 26, 2016
    TexasEV
    My classic has the same 2.24.30 and I don't have any connectivity issues. Neither have any connectivity issues been reported with that build here. If rebooting doesn't help, perhaps you have a hardware problem.
    Newer updates seem directed a AP cars. Not everyone gets every build.
  • Jul 26, 2016
    snellenr
    Received 2.28.60 on my March 2014 P85 last night (over wireless). Release Notes were the generic "Fixed stuff".
  • Jul 26, 2016
    1051
    Just received the same update "Fixed Stuff" 2.28.60
  • Jul 26, 2016
    BozieBeMe2
    Upgraded from - 7.1 (v2.20.30)
    to 7.1 (v2.28.19)
    As noted,, AP seems to be having some relearning issues and my 'Summon" from the garge isn't working.
    Before update, it was working great,
    Verifyed all my settings and they look the same, later I will try the android app.{P.S. raining here and the car doesn't do,,, RAIN!
  • Jul 26, 2016
    msnow
    Re Summon, be sure to check that "continuous press" is set to off.
  • Jul 26, 2016
    BozieBeMe2
    Ditto. I have already caught that and as soon as it stops raining, I will try it again, plus use the android app.
    The car can't seem to put itself up (12" minimum space along the sides) so I really appreciated the summing out of the garage (back surgery)
  • Jul 26, 2016
    msnow
    I just had a triple fusion surgery 6 months ago so I can totally relate :).
  • Jul 26, 2016
    mspohr
    I got 28.19 a few days ago and regen seems stronger ;)
  • Jul 26, 2016
    The Lorax
    Downloaded for me last night. Regen is even stronger, AP is fully autonomous and my subscription to Consumer Reports has been mysteriously cancelled. Best update yet!
  • Jul 26, 2016
    BozieBeMe2
    Hey! that's what I had!!
    Fused L4 & L5 and added two bars with 5 screws. UGH
    By the way, I THOUGHT I had checked the option to turn off the 'Hold" feature but I goofed it.
    The option was still on. Great if you use the android app, car moves as long as you hold the phone button
    Stops the summon action when you lift your finger
    With this feature 'ON' and If you use the fob, the car turns on, then goes right back off. Just the problem having.
    So, if you use just the fob, keep it off.
    This sounds does contrary, because you DO, press the fob twice and hold it on the second press,
    to activate the summon feature by the fob
  • Jul 26, 2016
    Blue Millenium
    If autopilot goes, so does my Tesla.
  • Jul 27, 2016
    markn455
    Received 2.28.60 late last night. I installed and ready to go this AM. No release notes other than the generic "Fixed Stuff" message. No noticeable differences or new features identified. I did notice that it acquired 3G connectivity before I hit the end of the drive way. Previously it had been taking minutes, hours, and sometimes a reboot to get it to connect to 3G. We will see how it goes over the next several days.
  • Aug 8, 2016
    markn455
    I now know the update did not improve the 3G connectivity issue. I am back to having to reboot regularly to get 3G connectivity. I hope they address this problem soon.
  • Aug 10, 2016
    ndwalther
    Same for me after update 2.28.60, have to reboot regularly the center screen to get 3G connectivity back !
  • Aug 10, 2016
    markn455
    Yeah, I started having to reboot regularly to get it back before 2.28.60. It seemed to have been corrected when that update was pushed out. However, just wishful thinking because it's just as bad on this build. Since there are no release notes, we can't tell if that was intended to be one of the bug fixes.
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