Jun 14, 2016
ElectricTundra What are your favorite and least favorite supercharger locations? EG, which have the amenities you want and which fail? Which are safe for walking and feel safe later at night? Which are examples Tesla should follow in choosing future locations and which not?
Unlike gas stations where our only concern was easy on/off the highway (and clean restrooms for my wife), we want a lot more in supercharger locations. We spend a lot more time at superchargers and want good and safe options for eating or enjoying a good cup of coffee while working on our laptop.
Based on reviews in Chargerville they currently rank like this:
Charger Rankings | Chargerville
My top priority is a good coffee place with good atmosphere, second is healthier eating options, and third is that it's safe to walk to these places from the charger. Two of my favorites are Duluth MN (Duluth Supercharger | Chargerville) and Defuniak Springs FL (DeFuniak Springs Supercharger | Chargerville). Both have a number of coffee and eating options that are safe to walk to.
We visited Lafayette IN during winter and found walking to any of the food places quite dangerous and would have preferred much better food options than are available. Lafayette Supercharger | Chargerville�
Jun 14, 2016
jelloslug The Supercharger in Savannah GA is inside a pay parking deck at an airport....�
Jun 14, 2016
ElectricTundra Chattanooga is similar though it's in a lot and a bit of a drive from highways.�
Jun 14, 2016
AMPd Favorite SC- Redondo Beach CA! It's at a Hilton garden inn, the restrooms were spotless, plus wifi and a nice lounge to hangout in. I just loved it on our trip to San Diego.
Least favorite- San Diego CA, it's located in an area where you have quite a walk to the nearest restroom or food joint.
No Bueno when traveling with my gf.
Edit: I should note, I was at the San Diego SC on the weekend when Qualcomm was closed.�
Jun 14, 2016
mrjedistud Worst-There is a temp location near D.C. in the westfield mall. There are only 2 chargers and during mall hours its terrible.
There was a sign there that the location is closing and moving to a permanent location. Hopefully the new place is better equipped.�
Jun 14, 2016
Max* Best - at a rest area on the highway
Worst - not at a rest area on the highway�
Jun 14, 2016
Bridor The best so far for me is the Buckeye, Arizona supercharger. It has Wendy's, Jack in the Box, Carl's Jr, a subway sandwich shop, Game Stop, Walmart, Pet Smart, Dunkin Donuts and more. I always return to the car with the car fully charged because there is so much to do.
The worst was the one in Las Vegas, Nevada - it is in a bad location and has 1 strange little eating place that did not interest me.�
Jun 14, 2016
RogerHScott Really? I'll admit the destinations themselves are no great shakes, but I wouldn't remotely call the walk to them "dangerous". On what basis did you conclude that?
In general, my impression is that SCs are rarely located near the sorts of places I'd prefer to visit. Fortunately, I haven't had a lot of
need for SCs.�
Jun 14, 2016
SW2Fiddler I was stretching my legs at the San Marcos TX SC at around 1 or 2 AM and Security rolled up and said they really preferred I stay IN the car while there.
So I felt REALLY safe, too safe LOL but sometimes on the road I have to use the restroom or buy a bottle of water! (mall closes at mall hours and there are drink vending machines outside but no access to the restrooms)�
Jun 14, 2016
jaguar36 I like two different types of Superchargers. I like the ones that are in a shopping area convient to the highway. These are great if you're traveling during the day as they give you plenty of stuff to do while charging. A perfect example of this is the Hamilton, NJ one. Its right next to a Barnes and Noble that has a coffee shop and stuff to browse. In addition there are a ton of food options within walking distance.
I also like having them be at rest stops on the highway for quick and easy access when I just need a few more electrons.�
Jun 14, 2016
ElectricTundra There was too much snow to walk across the grassy area so we had to walk along the road. There were a lot of surprisingly fast cars going in/out of the parking lot and along the road who were not paying attention. Someone else who was charging once said that they'd had similar problems after a heavy rain when the grassy area was too soggy to walk through.
We had a similar problem at Country Club Hills when we walked to Applebees.�
Jun 14, 2016
RogerHScott Ah, so you must have been headed to Steak&Shake or some such, rather than one of the outbuildings in the Meijer parking lot. Given
how little snow we had last winter, you must have had really bad luck!By "dangerous" I thought you meant "plagued by ``bad elements''". The area by the parking lot exit nearest the SC site is very congested and, I would think, really unsafe for pedestrians.
Tesla should put a sign at the SC directing people who want to go to Steak&Shake, etc., to walk south through the parking lot to the
other exit which is a much safer/easier place to cross (and avoids walking across the grass as well as walking along the street, for
the most part).�
Jun 14, 2016
RogerHScott 
Ack, that down arrow was supposed to be green...�
Jun 14, 2016
mspohr There is a place called the "Container Park" which is two blocks from the Las Vegas SC. Lots of interesting shops and restaurants as well as a kids playground. (There's a map of the area on the wall next to the SC.)�
Jun 14, 2016
ElectricTundra We actually crossed (to Steak & Shake & Bob's) where you've got 'better' marked. But yeah, I think we hit a bad time with lots of snow and lots of traffic. How often would the grassy area be difficult to cross? I wonder if a sidewalk through there and maybe in front of S&S, WB's, etc would help?�
Jun 14, 2016
mspohr I know this is probably not possible for many SC locations but we found the SC in Golden, BC has a nice little park and picnic table provided by the owner of the motel where the SC is sited. We had a nice picnic there while we charged.
It would be great to have picnic tables near SCs when possible.�
Jun 14, 2016
RogerHScott Only when you come to town, apparently�
Jun 14, 2016
RogerHScott At Lafayette? Man, you really don't have the typical experience there, do you?
there at once, and rarely even one.�
Jun 14, 2016
DrManhattan Wow that's almost an exact list of stores I will never go to and food I would never eat!�
Jun 14, 2016
jbcarioca My lease favorite is St. Augustine, FL it is located in a shopping mall with possibly the world's worst food court.
There are too many good ones to list, mostly ones in shopping malls, close by lots of restaurants and shops.The ones located inside are also favourites in inclement weather. Savannah. GA is good in that respect.�
Jun 14, 2016
K_style so far,
Fav: Mt. Shasta, CA
Not so Fav: Corning, CA�
Jun 14, 2016
TMobe My least favorite has to be Folsom, Ca. I plugged in to this 4 stall location. There were 2 cars. My car said it would take 2 hrs. It took 2.5 hrs. I started charge at 60 miles charging to 90%. I used it again another day a few weeks later. 4 stalls and I was the 3 cars ( i made the 4th). Car said 4 hrs!!! I moved over one spot. It changed to 1.5 hrs. Started charge at 100 miles and charge to 90%.
My favorite is The Galleria in Roseville, Ca with 7 chargers. They have legit complimentary valet for Tesla! I have never used it but very nice. Location to the mall and other places to eat are very convenient. All of these charge at the normal rate. I am always out before an hour no matter what % I start at. I rarely have to wait. Small thing I have to say...once in a while 1 or more of those chargers are non operational. I just move to the next space and call it in.�
Jun 14, 2016
mshuang I agree that the San Diego Supercharger is terrible. It's also far from a freeway exit/entrance. I've only been there once on a weekend, and that area was a ghost town.
I think the Superchargers I like tend to have some things in common:
* It should have plenty of stalls, and it shouldn't be too crowded -- let's face it, nothing is worse than getting to the Supercharger to find that they're all taken, and that you'll need to wait.
* It should have walkable amenities.
* Food and/or Shopping.
1 point each for safety, night access, walkability, restrooms, restaurants, wifi, stall availability, shopping, other attractions.
and 1 point because it's a Supercharger.
Here are the ones I've visited so far (all in California)
Mountain View: This one is located at the Computer History Museum. I've only been here at night, and it was raining so I didn't get to step out. I'm familiar with the area, but the problem here seems to be local charging and high Tesla density. Even at midnight in the pouring rain, there were probably 8 or 9 vehicles there. They have lots of chargers. I only did a short range charge here. 7/10.
Gilroy: Outlet Mall. Lots of chargers here, and also some other EV charging types. There's also an In-N-Out here too. Good walkability. Good shopping. Just wished that they had more food choices. Had to do a longer charge here. 8/10
Buellton: Santa Ynez Marriott. I usually only need to do a short charge here, but The Marriott is pleasant. They have wifi, and a bar/restaurant. I wish there was more to do within walking distance. 7/10
Atascadero: At Rabobank. Usually after driving down from Gilroy, I'm ready for a break. I always plan on taking a short charge here, but I always end up taking longer charging than I thought. Walk and explore the area --
Oxnard: located in a outdoor mall. Plenty of places to eat and shop at. Not sure what it's like when the mall is closed. 7/10
Culver City: At Westfield. There's the mall, but when it's closed, there's not too much around. I stopped here just to check it out and gauge stall availability. Lots of chargers here, and lots of cars charging. Probably one of the bigger Superchargers I've seen. 7/10.
Redondo Beach: Hilton Garden Inn. I like this Supercharger location a lot -- as previously mentioned, their bathrooms are nice, there's wifi, and a lounge, and a bar and restaurant. It's walkable to an In-N-Out too. (by the time I get to In-N-Out, order, and then eat, I usually get the charge is nearing completion message). Stalls are often crowded, but never full. 8/10
Hawthorne: Tesla/SpaceX. Lots of Chargers, not easy to find, and you need to snake through a (sometimes security guarded) road. There's no restaurants or or shopping nearby, however. It's neat to go there once just to see, but this one is one that I often skip. 6/10
Fountain Valley: At Petsmart/Costco Plaza. I really want to like this Supercharger, but I just can't. This Supercharger takes some of the pressure off of SJC, but it's also heavily used by locals -- in one sense, it's a good location because there's some stuff that's walkable, there's food, restrooms. But there's two additional hazards here: shopping carts and Costco shoppers. Skip it for travel charging unless you absolutely need it, because the LA superchargers are usually less crowded. 6/10
San Juan Capistrano: I'm really not a fan, and fortunate enough that I don't often need to stop at this location. There's lots to eat and see here. The problems are always congested stalls, which results in needing to wait to charge. I'm also not sure where the bathrooms are if the restaurants are closed. 5/10.
San Diego: Qualcomm. I don't like this location because there's nothing really to do here while waiting to charge. 6/10�
Jun 14, 2016
RogerHScott Clearly as an absolute minimum every SC needs a little kiosk with a computer permanently connected to TMC so that people can
b*tch or wax poetic about their SC experience whilst having it.�
Jun 14, 2016
ElectricTundra Nah. They just need to go on Chargerville and do so.�
Jun 14, 2016
mspohr Every Tesla has a built in connection to TMC (and anywhere else you'd like to whinge).�
Jun 14, 2016
RogerHScott I find the internet connection is usually unusably slow. MSs must have the lamest imaginable LTE antennas, and/or
poorly mounted/located. I can be parked next to a cell tower and still get crappy LTE.�
Jun 14, 2016
smsprague Favorite - Las Vegas, easy walk to Golden Nugget or San Juan Capistrano, great Mexican Market with food in parking lot
Least Favorite - Quartzite, AZ or Cordes Lakes, AZ�
Jun 14, 2016
kevinf311 Just got back from a trip between home and Alabama.
Hard to nail down a specific favorite. Greenville was my least favorite for sure.
I'm so glad we finally have a Supercharger in Greenville but, my mild traffic accident notwithstanding, it's in a sorta boring area.
Glen Allen, Burlington, Charlotte, and Atlanta (Atlantic Station) all have lots to do and/or eat but I just kinda sat in my car and chatted on IRC in Greenville (both directions).
South Hill really only has the Kahill's restaurant, but that still ranks above Greenville for me because we used to stop there (the old location) for a meal when I was growing up and I find it neat that now I get to stop there again on my travels (plus the staff and owner are very nice and the food/drink is pretty good to boot!).
Edit: Wandering comma�
Jun 14, 2016
roblab After reading through these posts, I just want to point out the obvious.
Tesla would like exactly what you all would like. They have teams working on locating superchargers in just the right places with fun things to do and great food nearby. But the dingaling property owners that happen to be along freeways every hundred thirty or so miles just WILL not cooperate. So, in Quartzsite, you are parked out on the far end of the lot in the desert, a hundred yards or so behind Carl's. Over at Needles, you get to park under the hundred foot tall freeway Shell gasoline sign and walk around through the service station. And that great location you would have preferred, a block from where the chargers are, well, Tesla couldn't swing the deal. They liked that spot, too.
Speaking of Shasta, I walked over to Taco Bell and got the worst burrito I've ever had, but, as always, YMMV. Your Mileage May Vary.
Tesla goes through hundreds of locations that they consider might be good, only to find owners who do not want electric vehicles charging on their property, or feel they cannot give up four or eight parking places. This, even though Tesla pays them on a lease basis for the use, on top of supplying the charging equipment and paying for the installation and the power.
Personally, charging takes such a small amount of my time that I can do an in car search for my favorite types of restaurant that might be on my way down the road. There's usually a restroom available, and the car is nearly always ready when I am.
And NO one other than Tesla is doing anywhere near the job on getting a superb network for long distance charging. NO one. Thanks, Tesla.�
Jun 14, 2016
dgpcolorado Interesting idea for a thread.
I guess my favorite is Twin Falls ID because of the Snake River Canyon Overlook. Since it is an overnight stop for me the other amenities aren't important but there is shopping, restaurants, and lodging, albeit a fair walk away.
I also like Grand Junction CO because it is at a mall with a lot of eating choices and shopping. No parking or ICEing issues since the mall parking lot never fills.
I like Green River UT, at the John Wesley Powell museum, because it has a lovely park-like location right on the river, with restrooms and free WiFi. (But two of the four Superchargers were down last week; I reported it.)
I like Beaver UT because it is so close to I-15 and really easy to find and get to; it also has a convenience store/DQ with very nice restrooms. Only one actual sit-down restaurant however, for those who care about such things.
I like Salt Lake City because the Tesla Service Center has a comfortable waiting room, restrooms, WiFi, and even some snacks.
I like Moab UT because it is right downtown with lots of places to eat and shops to visit and is about ten minutes walk to a supermarket.
I don't like Denver, because it is at a hotel and there are no amenities and nothing else nearby. I suppose you could ask at the hotel to use their restrooms, although I haven't tried to do that. From the perspective of not encouraging locals to crowd the Superchargers, Denver is near ideal, however: it is not near anything!
In general, I don't like Superchargers at hotels unless there is shopping or eating nearby. The most important amenity for me is easy-to-find restrooms. I also would like them near grocery stores � Moab is the only one I've found so far � so I can shop for things to take with me on the road, which I always prefer to restaurants. Stores, especially large ones or convenience stores, have restrooms, so that's a plus. In Boise ID the Supercharger Station is at a hotel so I walk over to the huge Lowes store for restrooms.�
Jun 14, 2016
Tree95 I wouldn't consider St. Augstine my least favorite SC, but you're right about that food court. I stopped on a cross country road trip, and it was crapping down rain. And, the food court sucked!�
Jun 14, 2016
JoshG I agree Mountain View may be the most crowded supercharger anywhere. But it's worth pointing out that if you DO get a spot, there is a Starbucks, Quiznos, 7-11, and a little italian restaurant just steps away. Also - a movie theater in easy walking distance. Might be nice if you've got a long charge.�
Jun 14, 2016
Boatguy Good stuff, but let's take the first derivative and generate some feedback for Tesla at What Makes a Supercharger location Great? If they're doubling the number of SCs, maybe the next 275 can all be great!�
Jun 14, 2016
Nikxice Consider a favorite SC from a fourth dimensional Space-time perspective. Possibly it's the SC one might someday reach with just a couple of miles left in the tank!�
Jun 14, 2016
S4WRXTTCS To me it's all about the 24/7 Lounge access that they have at Monterey-Seaside. It's also a great place to be if you happen to have a nail in your tire right before thanksgiving weekend, and you desperately need to find a tire shop.
My least favorite is any supercharger at an Outlet mall on Black friday. Of course they tend to be pretty cool superchargers when it's not black friday.�
Jun 15, 2016
jbcarioca Oops, I forgot about Cincinnati-Blue Ash. They were one of the first with 24/7 lounge access. It makes a very relaxing time to charge. There is nothing else in the area, so the lounge is doubly nice.�
Jun 15, 2016
Rifleman very cool site. I have a feeling I am going to be spending all morning writing supercharger reviews instead of working�
Jun 15, 2016
tinm 1st, 2nd, and 3rd prizes for Worst Supercharger Evar all go to San Juan Capistrano. Congratulations. So richly deserved. Stay classy, SJC and Orange County locals.�
Jun 15, 2016
MorrisonHiker The walk from Las Vegas to San Juan Capistrano was too long for me.�
Jun 15, 2016
namlio Most hotels have a restroom in the common area. If they host a supercharger, or even if they don't, I don't see any reason for you to ask, just use. The Huntsville, TX supercharger in in the parking lot of a Holiday Inn Express and I just walked in and used the facilities. No one stopped me or even noticed. Now, it is always nice to do business with the host if you can, but it is not always convenient. If you do, make sure to mention that you are there because of the supercharger and thank them for hosting. I have read about places that provide discounts or other perks to Tesla owners that stop there. The Colin Street Bakery in Corsicana, TX is a good example.�
Jun 15, 2016
RogerHScott Tesla + baked goods (eaten outside the car, of course!�
Jun 15, 2016
NOLA_Mike My least favorite so far has to be Perry, OK (with an honorable mention to Mobile, AL)
My favorite so far is Silverthorne, CO - location is everything...�
Jun 15, 2016
hsctiger93 Only done East Coast from Potomac Mills down to St. Augustine and Orlando so my frame of reference isn't great...
Best of the bunch: I might have to say the new Janaf charger in Norfolk, VA. Variety of things to do but the shopping center is the definition of run-down. Glen Allen is my hometown charger so I don't count it. It's nice though.
2nd place might be Orlando since it's in the parking lot of a mega gas station/convenience store, but you have to pay a toll to get there.
Worst? Gosh, there are a few unfavorable ones. While I get the hatred of the St. Augustine food court, the rest of the shopping is good. And we were there the day after Black Friday. Mall security had the SC parking spaces coned-off and had a person there protecting the spaces from getting ICE'd. Wife loved that since the lot was otherwise full.
South Hill has Kahill's but nothing else, but the restaurant is good. So they don't meet the qualifications.
Santee, SC has the hotel with a decent restaurant. But sleeping in that hotel sucks.
Savannah airport has airport food which sucks. But a wide open gravel parking lot that lets your kids stretch their legs if you brought a football or baseball.
Plymouth, NC and the other NC location (skips my mind) both have crappy options for food. I'm going with them. If you don't like a chain steakhouse (I don't eat beef) with literally nothing else to do these are the worst.
With almost a half million M3's on reservation Tesla will have to seriously blow out its SC network even though it says it will charge M3 users for them. I look forward to increased options in the next few years...�
Jun 15, 2016
cpa In no particular order, I have liked Mt. Shasta City, Rancho Cucamonga, Cabazon, Barstow (when Chili's is open), Truckee #2, Lone Pine(!), Atascadero.
Not so much: Las Vegas, Needles, Kingman, Mojave, Quartzsite, Grants Pass, Woodburn, Normal, San Juan Capistrano.
That said, I am extremely grateful to Tesla for their master plan. It must be quite frustrating to be the team that tries to secure decent locations and negotiate with property owners, business owners and the governmental agencies.�
Jun 15, 2016
RogerHScott Citation, please?�
Jun 15, 2016
hsctiger93 I saw something on either Yahoo finance or Bloomberg off my iPhone that said Tesla either stated M3 owners would pay or were very close to declaring they would pay. Don't have the link. Saw it maybe 2 weeks ago...�
Jun 15, 2016
RogerHScott I'm afraid that doesn't really rise above the level of "unsubstantiated rumor". Elon has strongly hinted, if not come right out
and said, that M3 owners will have to pay for SC capability; is it possible that's what you're referring to?�
Jun 15, 2016
hikerockies Denver supercharger is not so bad. I have stopped by there a few times. Front desk folks are always nice. They have a small snack shop just behind the front desk and I have bought cookies, chips, ice cream etc for my kids plus used the restroom. When I stopped by this weekend to charge, I picked up a small pack of oreos. I went to the front desk to pay, lady at the front desk asked me if she could add it to my room. I replied with I was not staying at the hotel and was just charging my car. She immediately said cookies were on her. She offered bottle of water as well and asked me to help myself to coffee and restroom. I used the restroom and then had cookies and coffee in their breakfast area in comfort while my car charged. There was another Model S owner in the breakfast area waiting while his car charged. Someone from front desk walked over and offered him a bottle of water as well. There are a few restaurants just couple of blocks away - Uno, Outback Steakhouse, Pizza, Thai and Mexican food.�
Jun 15, 2016
swesson My favorite: Denton, TX: Even though it is not the easiest access from the highway, the restaurant and retail locations are very good, by far the best between Dallas and Denver.
Least favorite: Salina, KS in a Holiday Inn Express parking lot. WAY off of the beaten path from I70 and 135, a long walk to gas stations, truck stops, etc.�
Jun 15, 2016
pedriscoll I use the Lafayette Supercharger a couple of times a month and have only once seen another car charging there!�
Jun 15, 2016
Bill r I agree Las Vegas is bad. isolated difficult to get in and out.�
Jul 2, 2016
snort My favorite so far is Mount Shasta. Beautiful location, surprisingly good cellular service for where it is, several food places both slow and fast nearby, it's on the property of a nice hotel. I've become fond of the lounge there. My one complaint is that it's only 4 charge heads. On the Sunday after last Thanksgiving, there were a total of 6 Teslas there while I was inside, finishing my soda pop and watching the football game on TV. One had been waiting about 15 minutes. Sorry about that.
My least favorite is Vacaville, which I find to be an amazingly unpleasant place: crowded, boring, poorly laid out...when I was driving an ICE I'd go out of my way to avoid stopping there for fuel or toilet, and I hope Tesla makes that possible soon. The charger is in a place that requires waiting for several traffic lights both in and out and entering a parking lot through a non-obvious entry, and I find the directions from the in-car navigation to be misleading. While there are several places to eat nearby, all of them involve crossing a large, busy street on foot, with the nearest crosswalk several hundred yards away.
--Snortybartfast�
Jul 2, 2016
S4WRXTTCS I hear hell is having to charge at Vacaville during black monday.�
Jul 2, 2016
Tree95 I hit Ukiah this week for the first time. It's in a nice looking parking lot across the street from a park, and it seems nice on first glance.
But, this is the only SC I've ever been to where I took out my phone and pulled up the dialer screen ready to dial 911. And, I've been to some sketchy mall parking lots along I10 in the south before. Granted, if I ever were in the Las Vegas charger after dark, I'd have my phone out, too.
I was there about 6pm. The nearby park at Ukiah is full of homeless. The smell of pot was prevalent. There's no nearby toilet - even if I braved the park, I could see the restroom doors were blocked off and locked.
Two thumbs up for the previous post about Mt Shasta. My favorite out of the 96 SC's I've been to.�
Jul 3, 2016
supratachophobia Santee, SC. If there was a supercharger to get murdered at, that would be the one. It's straight out of Deliverance. But the ice cream is good.�
Jul 3, 2016
BizJet As a relatively new owner, I don't have a huge experience base to draw from, but the SuperCharger at the Hooksett NH plaza is very nicely done. First of all, there are twin supercharger banks -- one set on the southbound side and one on the northbound side. Second, there's a large variety of food and rest options at the plaza, as well as a gigantic New Hampshire State Liquor Store. Third, the location is close enough to be a comfortable walk to the main building but not so close that it's tempting for non-EV vehicles to park in. And finally, the superchargers are close enough to the perimeter barrier that cars on Route 3-A can back up to the barrier and get a Supercharged "sip".�
Jul 3, 2016
ModelX I really like twin falls supercharger! Trails, scenery and places to eat!�
Jul 3, 2016
supratachophobia Oh, the 24/7 lounge in Cincinnati is awesome btw. It actually makes you feel that maybe the perks are a little too much. Too cool though.�
Jul 3, 2016
Footer As mentioned earlier, Bethesda near DC is terrible. Only 2 stalls. One stall charges at 70 mph if the other stall is used. And Uber drivers are there regularly.�
Jul 3, 2016
AudubonB More opinion regarding Arizona -
We love the Wickenburg SpC:
1. it is safe - at the police station and the very clean restrooms are available 24 hrs.
2. there are a good number - about 5 - eating sites within walking distance and every single one of them is individually/family owned - no kind of chain anything in downtown W'burg, but rather it's a great place to stroll around.
3. W'bg is one of still only a few SpCs throughout the US that is on a fine, desirable road: ie, nowhere near an Interstate or other limited access freeway (like the Merritt Pkwy's SpCs in CT). Yay.
And the worst one I know of is the Buckeye SpC (sorry, previous poster). That Carl's Jr. that hosts it? It is the only place on this or any other planet I've ever visited where...and I am absolutely serious....the men's room urinal is CHAINED TO THE WALL!!!!!! Buckeye has not got the most savory reputation in central AZ and that is a fine testimony as to why.
Now, I recently saw mock-up photos of the new SpC in Czech Republic (city?). Now, there is a good-looking site! With park benches, grass, cool-looking roof and all.
Of course, the only SpCs truly to love are those in Alaska. But Tesla's still not listening......�
Jul 3, 2016
David99 I read through the comments here and it makes me giggle. What people consider 'the worst' is so relative and sometimes funny. It shows what people's expectations are and where they come from.
For example Buckeye is a really nice site compared to others. Right off the freeway, 8 stalls, never crowded, never had to wait there, several food options within an easy walk, never saw a single shady person there no matter what time of the way I was there. I've been at places where I couldn't wait to get on the road again, no food options whatsoever, no bathrooms after business hours, only 4 stalls, crowded, creepy people stalking you, hotel management telling their guest to park in the Superchargers basically encouraging them to block them, some that take 10 min from the freeway to get to, and so on.�
Jul 3, 2016
deonb Favorite: Any one next to an In-N-Out Burger.
Least Favorite: Any one NOT next to an In-N-Out Burger.�
Jul 4, 2016
bob_p Last week we stopped at 10 superchargers on our trip - and we're going to try avoiding the Perry, OK supercharger if at all possible on our return trip next weekend. It's located at a gas station with a mini-mart, with nothing around it - and the condition of the facilities were considerably worse than the other stops on our trip.
The other superchargers were in good locations - next to a hotel or restaurant, and the only issue we encountered was when we hit our first stop early in the morning, before the adjacent restaurant was open - and we had a hike to the nearest public bathroom.�
Jul 4, 2016
RogerHScott Drove across Ontario on 401 yesterday. The SpC in Comber is grimly functional. It is in the middle of a huge truck stop, so there's nothing but pavement as far as the eye can see. Very limited food options; fortunately it wasn't meal time. Woodstock was much better, with both fast and not-so-fast food options within walking distance and generally more pleasant surroundings.
Also stopped at Buffalo, NY. In the middle of the parking lot of a big mall sort of place. There's food nearby, but almost nothing is
directly visible so you either need some other source of info or lots of time to wander around. Idea for Tesla: at each SpC location
put up a placard showing a map of the local area with relevant business and their hours shown.�
Jul 4, 2016
KublaConn Being a combination of techie & semi-Luddite myself, I agree that this is a good idea, but I suspect that Tesla expects the vast majority of people who purchased their high-tech vehicles to own a smart phone or other mobile device that will provide this information. Devices are nice, but they aren't more "convenient" than a comprehensive sign that already has all of the pertinent information listed for you in one place, though, one of the key problems with such a sign is that information changes, new establishments pop up and old ones close down, and that's particularly true of the areas where they tend to build superchargers.�
Jul 4, 2016
RogerHScott Ouch, nice implied burn! Guilty as charged, however. I'm only giving up my Motorola flip phone this year because AT&T
is dropping 2G support�
Jul 4, 2016
KublaConn Sorry, I was concentrating on being self-depricating too much and didn't consider the overspray.�
Jul 4, 2016
RogerHScott Well, my teenage son has this technology (of course!) and it was of very limited use. Knowing that there are places "out there
somewhere" where you can't see them and judge walking distance, scuzziness factor, etc., isn't all that useful. Not that I seriously
expect the Tesla signage to honestly assess the scuzziness factor�
Jul 4, 2016
KublaConn Well, the car itself has the technology in it to look thing up, doesn't it? Seems to be a simple case of pulling up your current location on Google Maps and it will show you what businesses are in the immediate vicinity.�
Jul 5, 2016
cpa At least for me, the touchscreen is interminably slow. And since I am more Luddite that techie (make that ALL Luddite) I really do not know how to avail myself of any benefit that this may provide.
Not a complaint; just stating fact: There is a large subset of the population out there whose tech skills are like mine. Yet it seems that the only communication method available to utilize these advances is word-of-mouth. And you know what they say about birds of a feather. There really needs to be some sort of compilation of information from Tesla to assist those of us who still use telephones with the magneto crank.�
Jul 5, 2016
dweeks
I charge at Cordes Lakes all the time on the way back from Phoenix to Flagstaff. The one plus about Cordes is that there are usually no Teslas there. It has six stalls, and I've seen two other cars perhaps once or twice.
No waiting and always full power charges!�
Jul 10, 2016
RogerHScott Visited the Erie, PA SpC last night while staying (not coincidentally) at the co-located Hilton Garden Inn.
Saw two things I'd not seen at other SpCs: a special handicapped stall and several of the stalls marked
"30 minute general parking" as opposed to the usual "Electric Vehicles Only" (although there were some
of those, too). Anyone coming through around breakfast time should know that the Safari Grill (in the hotel)
ha a very good breakfast.
Had quite a Tesla moment: while parked in front of reception a bunch of people were crowded around oohing and
ahhing. Even got the classic "Who makes it?" in response to "It's a Tesla"
drive. Ohio seems to be much more Tesla-savvy than Indiana.�
Jul 11, 2016
Brunton Gee, I stop there all the time. It's not bad at all. Good restaurant in the hotel, and a McSwineys nearby if you prefer clogging your arteries. Plus a convenience store right across the road. I like the Santee SC just fine. Hey, is that Dueling Banjos I hear in the background?�
Jul 11, 2016
DFibRL8R Convenience store definitely has the most comprehensive array of pickled things (pig's feet, eggs, watermelon, etc) I have seen at any supercharger�
Jul 11, 2016
supratachophobia Have you ever entered the town from the non highway side? There is a mailbox that has human bone remains hanging on it. Like, straight voodoo stuff.�
Jul 11, 2016
Brunton I have, but maybe not from the same direction you did. Never saw the bones.�
Jul 11, 2016
RogerHScott And you know that they're human how, exactly?�
Jul 11, 2016
NOLA_Mike Nothing says "No Solicitors" like human remains hanging on the mailbox...�
Jul 11, 2016
Canuck My favourite one is one with am empty stall when I pull in. My least favourite is one that's full when I pull up -- although that hasn't happened to me yet... knock wood.�
Jul 11, 2016
RogerHScott Presumably any with four or more empty stalls (out of the usual eight) is better than any with three or fewer, right? I just got back from my first major road trip (1400 miles total) and the most cars (including us) we ever saw at a SpC was three, briefly. The average was probably just under two. With seven SpC visits on this trip, gotta say: SuperChargers, woo-hoo!�
Jul 11, 2016
supratachophobia I licked them, of course.
But seriously, even if they were fake, why would you put bones up on your mailbox unless you were a fan of voodoo? That place is literally the heart of voodoo country.�
Jul 11, 2016
RogerHScott OT, but...
That's quite a leap, isn't it? Georgia O'Keeffe used bone imagery in much of her art, and I'm unaware of any voodoo connection there.
Maybe the person is a taxidermist? Coming from the other direction, if you were to ask me what things I associate with voodooism the
display of bones wouldn't come up.
There are SpCs in Haiti now? Wow, they're really getting good coverage!�
Jul 11, 2016
supratachophobia That's it, I'm taking a picture next time; and at the risk of my own well-being no less. And then I'm getting ice-cream at the murder-bait-pickled-firework-gas station.�
Jul 11, 2016
RogerHScott 'Round these parts we just shorten all that to WalMart�
Jul 11, 2016
DCGOO Yeah, they even allow them to be sold in Ohio!�
Jul 11, 2016
buckerine There's actually a destination charger in Ithaca and in nearby Cortland.�
Jul 11, 2016
supratachophobia Barely, only 3 locations. But Indiana does surprisingly well all things considered. Their service is straight out of black ops, what with a hidden safehouse location and dropping off/picking up cars like ninjas.�
Jul 11, 2016
RogerHScott Exactly one, I know, but it wasn't convenient to where we were (and they're kind of doing you a favor to let you use
it if you're not staying at the Inn).�
Jul 11, 2016
sorka Favorite: Tejon Ranch because of Mauricio's
Leave favorite: Tejon Ranch due to long waits.�
Jul 12, 2016
Blueeyedme Lots of good locations. The worst standout for me has been Macon, GA. Wouldn't even consider stopping there late night as I believe it's a dangerous location.�
Jul 12, 2016
miggz410 Any Bay Area owners can tell me how busy the Fremont Factory stations are?�
Jul 12, 2016
John Stuckey Dayton Ohio. I like Chipotle and the best one I have every eaten at is located next to the Dayton SC. Meijers for shopping and plenty of space for stretching yours legs. It is a safe area.�
Jul 12, 2016
ElectricTundra Savannah airport has a couple of graves (or possibly 3) in one of its runways. R & C Dotson Graves | Chargerville�
Jul 12, 2016
Garlan Garner This thread is kinda strange.
As soon as I list my favorite SC location and "why", then it would cease to be my favorite location.�
Jul 12, 2016
iffatall They are crazy busy. Looks like many locals are relying on it for daily charging, in addition to some new delivery cars being charged there too. The location has gotten busier and busier over the last two years. I visit there every few months, and lately, there is always someone waiting for a spot to open up.
There is a second Fremont location under construction, a few miles south on I-880, and there is talk that the factory location will close to public, once this second location opens. It looks like this location has many stalls - more than I have seen at any other location.
There are dedicated threads discussing each of these SCs here under California.�
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