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Elon Musk at D11 part 1

  • May 28, 2013
    Benz
    Does anyone know at what time the interview will be held?
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  • May 28, 2013
    brianstorms
  • May 28, 2013
    moltenfire
    That's 730p California time.
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  • May 29, 2013
    johnnydop
    Will it be broadcasted live?
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  • May 29, 2013
    aznt1217
    Don't think so, but usually there's liveblogs or transcripts
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  • May 29, 2013
    Soflason
    If you (or anyone) gets hold of the video, please post, would love to see it...
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  • May 29, 2013
    aznt1217
    Usually they post up the videos on their Youtube Channel or some other user does (the past ones with Steve Jobs and other Executives are up there)-- one of the most Famous are Steve and Bill Gates together) I argue is a must watch for anybody.

    P.S. Also I got your PM read up on a lot of what you mentioned just didn't get a chance to make a meaningful response lol.
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  • May 29, 2013
    DaveT
  • May 29, 2013
    v12 to 12v
    It looks like they are posting videos from the conference in short order on this webpage.
    Videos - AllThingsD
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  • May 29, 2013
    brianstorms
  • May 29, 2013
    aznt1217
    So far starting off with things he's said at other interviews. Probably in about 10 minutes it'll get really good.

    Wow that's a lot of users on 1 thread lol
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  • May 29, 2013
    Yuri_G
    Thanks for the links. The Verge live blog looks good.
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  • May 29, 2013
    aznt1217
    I like Engadget's because of the Media. Looks like Elon got more sleep. The interview he gave with Bloomberg looked like he didn't sleep in days.

    Expect the first 10-15 minutes or so as a recap to other interviews he had.
    Then a little on SpaceX
    Then back to Tesla -- probably some hype about batteries
    -- Q+A. This should be interesting
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  • May 29, 2013
    FredTMC

    Verge is good. Thx for tip
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  • May 29, 2013
    viperboy
    Engaget's always my particular favorite.

    Discussing the business plan now, roadster -> S -> Gen 3. nothing new yet.
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  • May 29, 2013
    aznt1217
    Here's the hook for tomorrow. Elon's laying the bait
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  • May 29, 2013
    moltenfire
    Darren Murph 11:06 PM
    Musk: "I might as well let the cat out of the bag, eh?"
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  • May 29, 2013
    Yuri_G
    From engadget "Huge cheers -- tears have turned to magical particles of elation! It's a miracle!" Got a lol from me.
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  • May 29, 2013
    aznt1217
    lol. I think he's totally not revealing everything

    Triple the Coverage of Supercharger network
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  • May 29, 2013
    moltenfire
    Darren Murph 11:08 PM
    Musk: "By the end of this year -- you'll be able to drive from LA to NY just using the supercharger network."
    Tweet


    Darren Murph 11:07 PM
    Musk: "There's going to be a dramatic acceleration of the supercharging network. By the end of next month, we'll triple the supercharger coverage area. There's a map that'll go live tomorrow, obviously."

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    Elon: The Supercharger network by the end of this year will cover most of the major areas of the US and Canada. You will be able to drive from LA to New York using Superchargers.


    As a Canadian, I can't wait to get a Supercharger network in Canada.
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  • May 29, 2013
    aznt1217
    So tomorrow Elon has to pull a Jobs and give us one more thing.-- swapping yea? charging faster than fueling a tank of gas?
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  • May 29, 2013
    kevin99
  • May 29, 2013
    aznt1217
    He's only giving us a little bit of the story. No partnership is mentioned nor is it mentioned.... Who did they partner with? How is the car going to charge faster than filling a tank of gas?

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  • May 29, 2013
    viperboy
    no details blogged about. I would assume it's still Solar City doing to tops of the chargers (where applicable). Also, i dont think 90kwh to 120kwh would classify as "dramatically" increasing, so hopefully more news tomorrow.
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  • May 29, 2013
    jbm81
  • May 29, 2013
    moltenfire
    I like his thinking:

    Musk: "I want a society where people are out exploring the stars. The goal of SpaceX is to make as much improvement as possible -- and hopefully we'll see people land on Mars in our lifetime. That'd be really great!"
    Darren Murph 11:18 PM
    Whoa -- Musk is convinced there will be "an extinction event." Basically, we need to sort out this whole 'living on Mars' thing or else we're all going to die.



    Darren Murph 11:16 PM
    Swisher: "Why Mars? What's attractive about Mars?"
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  • May 29, 2013
    CapitalistOppressor
    "Elon: There's been some breakthroughs on warp drive. You can't exceed the speed of light, but you can warp space itself, so that space is moving."

    I've been reading the research on this, and clearly warping space and going slower than light speed presents far fewer obstacles according to the studies I've read. This is the first I've heard about breakthroughs though. The only public info is that there are active experiments ongoing. Elon knows people that know people though...

    Still, the skeptic in me thinks he means the theoretical work thats come out recently..
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  • May 29, 2013
    FredTMC
    Coverage area will triple by month end because all the new locations they are currently announcing will be online then
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  • May 29, 2013
    moltenfire
    The people in the audience are idiots if they've never heard of terraforming Mars with greenhouse gases, or the likelihood of an extinction event in the next few eons.
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  • May 29, 2013
    Causalien
    It'll be neat to partner with Starbucks.
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  • May 29, 2013
    CapitalistOppressor
    The planet is going to be cooked in about 500 million years regardless. In fairness, thats a decent amount of time to try and develop better rocketry.
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  • May 29, 2013
    brianman
    Now where did I put my SPF 3000....
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  • May 29, 2013
    moltenfire
    Well, when the sun goes nova (granted in a few eons), we'd better be on multiple star systems or we're all cooked.
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  • May 29, 2013
    callmesam
    But extinction level events as probably more frequent. Plus we are doing things to ourselves that might cause population instability. Diseases. Asteroids. Etc.
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  • May 29, 2013
    FredTMC
    classic. You guys think too far ahead
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  • May 29, 2013
    callmesam
    HYPERLOOP?

    Hyperloop?
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  • May 29, 2013
    blakegallagher
    wow ... warping space .... that seems insane :)
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  • May 29, 2013
    moltenfire
    I'll talk about the Hyperloop idea pretty soon. We'll have a Tesla announcement around June 20th or so, and... at some point after that, that'd be a good time to talk about Hyperloop.
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  • May 29, 2013
    callmesam

    "It's a cross between a Concorde and a railgun. And I'll throw something else in there to make it more bizarre -- toss in an air hockey table."
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  • May 29, 2013
    brianman
    First he was waiting on a profitable quarter. No he's waiting on an announcement on June 20th. This is starting to sound like "the Supercharger announcement."
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  • May 29, 2013
    Causalien
    June 20 seems special for Musk. Last year it was about the success of a switch to mass production. I remember celebrating with my family.
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  • May 29, 2013
    callmesam
    He actually said "once we reach profitability". That left him enough wiggle room that he could say "oh a full year of profitability" or he could say "after the announcement June 20".

    I'm pretty happy we'll have cross country road trips, FREE. Plus 3X the Supercharger Coverage. Plus the full nationwide buildout in 7 months.

    Wins all around.
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  • May 29, 2013
    CapitalistOppressor
    How did this all get thrown into the Anti-Tesla Gibberish thread? Or is that just me? :)
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  • May 29, 2013
    gregincal
    Why exactly did a thread about an Elon Musk interview get merged into Anti-Telsa gibberish? Do the mods think that Elon was spewing anti-Tesla gibberish?

    Edit: Ah, it's back.
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  • May 29, 2013
    CapitalistOppressor
    Now its back out? Weird, lol.
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  • May 29, 2013
    Doug_G
    Sorry, I was merging three similar threads on D11 and they somehow all went in there. :redface: Don't know how. Either I clicked the wrong thing or the server glitched. Took me a few minutes to fish it all back out again!
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  • May 29, 2013
    moltenfire
    Can we get a link to this thread from the TSLA investors forum? I'm afraid some people in there would miss this thread.
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  • May 29, 2013
    brianman
    I don't have the exact quote handy, but my recollection was that he said a profitable quarter -- which they've had.
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  • May 29, 2013
    napabill
    Swapping? Fagetaboutit. Not happening.
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  • May 29, 2013
    moltenfire
    And we still don't know what he meant by "right under our noses" either. So, more news tomorrow likely.
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  • May 29, 2013
    bollar
    Is that not the fifth part of the trilogy? I don't think we'll learn about that tomorrow. Maybe June 20.
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  • May 29, 2013
    CapitalistOppressor
    I must say, I become less confident every day without an announcement. That said, the 8k is clear that they are going to announce it soon, and the spokespeople have refused to deny it. I also have seen photos of battery packs arriving at a service center, so maybe they will just do the limited version they were talking about late last year. But in that case, the main anticipated use for it was for 40kWh cars to be able to do road trips. That is no longer an issue, except for a few hundred cars that Tesla wants to upgrade to 60kWh anyways.
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  • May 29, 2013
    mitch672
    The ELE (Extinction Level Event) Elon speaks of doesn't have to be anything exotic, how about we just destroy the earths atmosphere to the point the polar ice caps melt, and there's so much CO2 in the atmosphere, we heat up the earth so it can no longer support life? Kind of like what we've been doing for the last 100 years, you know, burning hydrocarbons.
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  • May 29, 2013
    CapitalistOppressor
    Perhaps they will temporarily swap in packs using the 3400mAh batteries with a near legit 300 mile range? Still doesn't make much sense in the context of being able to "recharge" faster than a gas powered car "anywhere in the country" or the "specialized" swapping facilities that were mentioned in the 8k.
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  • May 29, 2013
    DaveT
    That's probably the 5th announcement... likely June 20th.
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  • May 29, 2013
    brianman
    This is not the thread you're looking for....
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  • May 29, 2013
    mitch672
    I was at the Watertown, MA Service Center tonight, they have a 60KWh and an 85KWh pack sitting in crates, they aren't too thrilled with it, they're taking up valuable space and they don't think they'll need them anytime soon. It seems every service center is getting a spare of each pack.
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  • May 29, 2013
    Stoneymonster
    Yeah, that's not gonna happen. Things could get very unpleasant, but life would go on. File:phanerozoic Carbon Dioxide.png - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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  • May 29, 2013
    CapitalistOppressor
    That makes a lot more sense.

    That said, I still wish they would just get the mystery announcement over with and discuss what their battery swapping plans are, lol.
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  • May 29, 2013
    mitch672
    Yeah, the tell me they can swap the pack in 15 minutes, it has quick disconnects for the power and cooling lines, trouble is they need to rent a forklift to move the things around. Maybe they have some improved material handling equipment being deployed to the service centers soon, but they don't think battery swapping is involved in any major way, of course Elon always surprises everyone :)
    They where talking about getting a larger facility down the street to handle more cars/volume, and that facility has a massive power distribution system, so they could put a SuperCharger their (current site is too small/crowded for that, and lacks enough power as well)

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    "Life" would not go on for everyone, for example coastal low lying areas such as New York City, for example (from the rising ocean levels). Things don't have to get so bad as to kill us ALL before we start to figure out "we need get out of this place".
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  • May 29, 2013
    deonb
    I don't think after the interview with Javier we can put Elon's "recharge" comment in quotes to substitute it for "battery swapping" anymore. Javier used the same words as Elon, but in context of the whole paragraph, it's clear that he literally means charging - not swapping. (Don't ask me how, or why there would be both a battery swapping service as per 8k AND a faster-than-gas charging service.)

    From:
    http://www.core77.com/blog/announcements/dmi_conference_2013_preview_qa_with_javier_verdura_of_tesla_motors_24947.asp

    "Charging technology is only going to improve with time. Charging times will decrease significantly and range will increase accordingly. In the very near future, the argument that internal combustion automobiles are more convenient than electric vehicles will be a moot point. You will be able to arrive at a charging station with an empty battery and drive off with a full charge faster than you can fill up a gas tank."
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  • May 29, 2013
    callmesam

    Nice pickup. Elon always has nuance to what he says so that even when you restate it, the meaning can change. I don't think he's being shifty, he's just super-precise.
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  • May 30, 2013
    Benz
  • May 30, 2013
    Soflason
    Wow, just an amazing interview... some really big moments throughout.

    If you don't have time to watch the whole thing with your morning coffee, you can also catch some of the highlights and best clips here:
    D11 - AllThingsD
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  • May 30, 2013
    StephenM
    Confirmed in Honolulu too, 2 crates containing one 60 and one 85KWh packs. When I floated the idea to the Tesla techs that there's a theory revolving swapping packs, they laughed and said they've seen a team of guys switch out a pack in about 15 minutes, but it was a LOT of guys doing it and they didn't think it was practical. Of course, take that with a grain of salt since the techs are sometimes the last to find out about a new policy/procedure. It doesn't make sense to send battery packs to Hawaii for battery swapping though, since we're an island that's about 34 miles across.
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  • May 30, 2013
    moltenfire
  • May 30, 2013
    twinklejet
    4.5 billion years to go! *tick tock tick tock*
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  • May 30, 2013
    kevin99
  • May 30, 2013
    Johan
    LOL! Elon doesn't strike me as the most patient type, but he seems to accept that some things must take their time and that every idea has it's right time to materialize. His metrics on what is possible and when is just a bit more optimistic than most others, which is great since he actually makes things happen and leads the way.
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  • May 30, 2013
    Frankc
  • May 30, 2013
    Benz
    I wasn't there, but I would have loved it.
    The distance is a bit too much, you know.
    But there will be many more occasions in the future.
    And there will be a few in Europe someday, I hope.

    Cheers mate
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  • May 30, 2013
    Lump
    He starts to answer a question on Hyperlooping at the 50 minute mark & he associates that with the June 20th Tesla announcement, is there a connection between them?
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  • May 30, 2013
    johnnydop
    My brother (Model S owner) said perhaps Tesla will make the motor/drivetrain for an electric bullet train that'll go from LA to San Fran.

    What else could the hyperloop have to do with TM? That Elon, always keeps up on our toes.
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  • May 30, 2013
    Benz
    The only connection is that first there will be the "June 20th announcement" (which most probably is the "Right under your nose announcement"), and the announcement about the Hyperloop will follow (a few weeks -I think-) after that. The man has many things on his mind, you know.
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  • May 30, 2013
    ggies07
    I love how Walt said just take all the GM cars to Mars to warm it up. hahahahaha
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  • May 30, 2013
    ggies07
  • May 30, 2013
    dbfish
    CORRECTION - Those are actually markers of where he charged, NOT SUPERCHARGERS. SORRY FOLKS! MY MISTAKE!
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  • May 30, 2013
    brianstorms
    The goal of the chargers isn't to put them in metro areas, but between metro areas. Otherwise, the locals are just gonna sit on 'em all day and you've got a Tragedy of the Commons situation (like we're starting to see with Gilroy...)
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  • May 30, 2013
    ggies07
    oh, ok. wheeew. haha. I'll guess I'll just wait until the official map is up before responding to anything.

    - - - Updated - - -

    That makes sense, but something close to Dallas is all I'm looking for. Something for us North Texans. It's a big state ya know. ;)
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  • May 30, 2013
    bollar
    Yeah. Some way to get to Houston and some way to get to San Antonio...
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  • May 30, 2013
    ShortSlaver
    My favorite part, from Elon:

    "Mars is a fixer upper of a planet."
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  • May 30, 2013
    callmesam
    She says "It's not like you mouth off at a NY Times report" to bait him into disclosing the Supercharging announcement ahead of time.

    Elon select quotes (verbatim)

    I might as well let the cat out of the bag.

    Dramatic acceleration of the supercharging network.

    By the end of next month we will have tripled the supercharger area.

    It's Walt's fault.

    By the end of this year will have covered most of the major metro areas of US and Southern Canada.

    Drive from LA to NY just using the SC network.

    Density is not as good as it should be

    Increasing geographic scope
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  • May 30, 2013
    Benz
    I think that today's Supercharger announcement will open up the eyes of a number of people who are really trying hard to keep them shut, as they just don't want to accept it that Elon Musk is doing great things for us all. Some of them are going to have to throw the towel in the ring after today's Supercharger announcement.
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  • May 30, 2013
    callmesam
    BENZ +1000

    That time is going to come soon, but it will happen quickly.

    As soon as you can drive from LA to NY in 3 days, it's completely over.
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  • May 30, 2013
    ggies07
    One thing: the last question the guy asked about how Tesla was going to handle it's servicing as it gets bigger and he said something about dealerships. I thought Elon was going to go into that problem, but he stayed focused just the servicing part. It seemed like he didn't understand the guys question or maybe I didn't. hahaha. Also, I thought part of what makes an EV so great is not having to service it so often, but the guys question made it seem like there was going to be a lot of that happening.

    Maybe Model S owners on here can shed some light? Besides the occasional dent/scratch/tech malfunction, what is there?
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  • May 30, 2013
    brianstorms
    I love driving and have nothing against very long distance road trips, but, in 2013 I don't see a significant part of the market wanting to travel multi-day car trips instead of air for routine travel. Maybe for vacations, to visit national parks, go to Vegas, etc., but this isn't the 1940s, 50s, or 60s when gas was cheap and Route 66 beckoned.

    I hope Elon's "LA to NY" thing doesn't get pushed around too much because I think it could backfire.
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  • May 30, 2013
    jeff_adams
    There are multiple threads detailing the issues people are having. Good news is, Tesla is taking care of them and making it right. While Elon said service is improving, I think that really depends on where you live. If the service center is in an area of few cars, service is great. In the highest concentration areas like LA and the Bay Area, still needs improvement. I sense that they are expanding and training as fast as they can, but it's a numbers game right now.

    Biggest complaint I read about is communication across departments. People get exasperated by issues that are not passed on to the correct people. This is tough in any organization, but since people paid top dollar for their cars, they expect Tesla to be better than the rest in this area. Can't blame them......
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