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My audio upgrade for "Watt ME" - Reus Audio part 2

  • Apr 19, 2013
    Adstein
    I love my P85, especially now that I have the summer wheels on the car. However, I have been quite disappointed in the stereo system even with the upgraded stereo and the parcel shelf.

    Years ago I had a custom stereo installed in my Porsche Boxster which was designed and installed by Reuss Audio specifically for that car - they don't do all cars but chose models that they think make sense and then do a dedicated design. I have never had another car stereo that came close for sonic purity and sound stage. This is not a boom box stereo but something that does full justice to rock and Classical music (I am a Pink Floyd, Who, Eagles, Yes type of person). One of the great advantages of their system beyond the "designed for the car" sound is that the upgrade is non-invasive. They put their own designed and custom manufactured speakers in the factory speaker slots and install a custom built amp hidden in the floor of the frunk. I could remove their system and put the factory system back and you would not know anything had been changed.

    The guys at Reus have now completed a design for the Model S based on the same principals and claim that the sound blows away what I have in my Boxster. They tell me that the amp for the Model S is custom designed to be efficient as well as sonically pure so should have a minimal drain on the battery. Based on my experience with them I went right ahead and ordered the upgrade.

    Reus design and install their systems themselves but are located in California. Based on demand they fly a tech to the east coast, typically NY, to do installs. I am now reserved for the July time frame and I encourage anyone else in the Northeast who really cares about sound quality to check them out at Reus Systems.

    I am merely a repeat customer of Reus and have no other tie to them. Anyone who is considering a stereo upgrade should check them out. Happy to provide demos of the Boxster to anyone in the Westchester area. PM me if interested.
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  • Apr 19, 2013
    SUPRKAR
    Are they coming to New York to do your model S. I am very interested in an upgrade and would like details on what they are going to do. Can you fill me in a little?
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  • Apr 19, 2013
    Adstein
    Yes, they will be coming to Ny to do my install. I am looking at a July install date at this point. The delay is a bummer but will be worth it. I suggest that you call them for full details on what they do. My experience is that you can't tell visually that it s not the factory stereo but sonically huge difference. Rick is the guy who helped me and delivered the first S upgrade. You can call him at 954-857-8929.

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  • Apr 19, 2013
    Panacea
    I might be interested as well. Thanks for posting the info. July is just fine with me...I hope to get my car next month.:smile:
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  • Apr 20, 2013
    spatterso911
    Folks, I have my car back after getting the sound upgraded at Reus, and it sounds incredible. I am going to post a full review in a few days, but the short version is, it's a dramatic improvement in sound presence, imaging, clarity, and bass response. There was no loss of cabin storage space either! Stunning transformation. I will eval with a variety of music sources, MP3, FLAC, .wav, slacker, XM, radio, AAC and ALAC files.


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  • Apr 20, 2013
    artsci
    What does this kind of upgrade cost?
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  • Apr 20, 2013
    spatterso911
    I'm not sure what Reus is planning to charge for the system I had installed. They actually have a process, whereby you install a system in your vehicle, then if you return a leased vehicle, or sell the vehicle, you pay to have the system removed, then installed in your next vehicle. It is a flat fee, and encompasses all engineering and customization costs for the new vehicle. $1500 is the cost. I had my M5 system removed, then the system was developed and installed for the Tesla. Because they are two dramatically different vehicles, each system is heavily customized for the model of car you have. For instance, my M5 had twin 10" subs in the rear as part of the system. It worked for that car, but doesn't work for the Tesla given the hatchback design. The Tesla system is completely invisible, with a swap out of many of the speakers, and the system has a high power amp with low current draw that was developed by Reus and exceeds 500W RMS power output.
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  • Apr 22, 2013
    SUPRKAR
    I spoke with Rick today. He indicated he would be willing to do several systems when he comes to NY in July..If we get about 4 Model S owners he said the price would be reduced somewhat. I am interested anyone else?
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  • Apr 22, 2013
    Adstein
    Well, I am in.
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  • Apr 22, 2013
    artsci
    I'm very interested. Any idea of price? Is it the $1,500 or so that spatterso911 mentions?
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  • Apr 22, 2013
    SUPRKAR
    I think the price is going to be somewhat more than 1500.00 like double that considering the equipment and install.
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  • Apr 22, 2013
    yobigd20
    Possibly but I'd want to know more about exactly what they'd be doing.
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  • Apr 23, 2013
    Adstein
    Give Rick a call, he will explain the full design.
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  • Apr 23, 2013
    Zextraterrestrial
    to remove and reinstall a system only
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  • Apr 23, 2013
    Rodolfo Paiz
    I'd be very interested in such a system. Let's see if we have enough "takers" in Florida.
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  • Apr 24, 2013
    nkohlimd
    I spoke with the guys at Reus Audio yesterday. They will replace most of the speakers and add an amp for the new subwoofer followed by tuning of the car. It is stero not surround with much batter range and staging. Takes a full day for each car. Price TBD and includes your share of the travels costs. They are coming to NYC and were more than willing to make a side trip to Boston if there is demand. Seriously considering it but would like to hear reviews from others before committing.
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  • Apr 25, 2013
    SUPRKAR
    I did a search for Reus Audio. Seems there are good and bad reviews. The good state the sound is incredible the bad were about deposits taken and long wait times. I filter what folks put on the internet as personalities get in the way of the truth. From the reading I have done it seems most everyone who has installed a system states it sounds excellent. I am looking for quality not loud and bass shaking. Seriously considering doing this when they come to NY area. Just need a price for the system....
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  • Apr 25, 2013
    Rodolfo Paiz
    Spoke to Cliff (General Manager) yesterday. He says they've finished their design for a regular MS, and are almost done designing the upgrade system for a Sound Studio MS. His estimate of an upgrade cost for an MS with SS was about $4,000 plus one's share of travel costs if they come out to you instead of you going to them. I'm quite interested in this upgrade and will wait to get more information from them as they get their details in order.
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  • Apr 25, 2013
    spatterso911
    I have had the system for a week, and although I am working on getting through a series of audiophile evaluations for you guys, life items such as work, kids, spouse, and sleep have been interfering lately. For those who just want to know if the system is quality or an improvement, let me at least post a brief review of the system...

    I have found five things to be true with the upgrade...

    1. The system improves the sound of all audio inputs. What I mean is that the quality of sound is substantially improved, such that inputs from bluetooth audio sources, Slacker, and USB will sound substantially better. It does highlight how crappy XM sounds, though, although even it sounds better than on the stock studio sound system (I have the studio audio upgrade).

    2. The bass response is tremendously better. Despite having the studio upgrade with the subwoofer, the bass response was lackluster and flat, with improvement coming only with volume increases to 9 or higher. This is unacceptable for any system. With the Reus upgrade, the bass response is there immediately and you can appreciate the tonal quality better. That being said, it is a tad overkill, and we are working to refine it, although if you are a Belieber or a 50 cent fan, you will be able to shock fillings loose. We are using Fourplay as our reference sound for final tuning. Quite a different experience. They can tune to whatever you like though, which is the best part of using Reus.

    3. The power is tremendous and the tonal qualities improve at flat EQ, no longer are wide variations in EQ necessary to attain a useable sound range.

    4. The sound stage is set ahead of the windshield, but the sound has a filling quality which removes the need to fade the sound back to rear to get a sense of the rears.

    5. I am ripping all of my CD's into FLAC, which sounds spectacular on this new system.

    As to the reviews on the web...

    Remember that the web highlights many of those who were sufficiently peeved enough to write a scathing review, although you'll find great reviews from reputable audiophile sources as well. The same interpretation can be gleaned about Tesla just from reading this site. Nearly all love Tesla, although we complain here too so you could walk away with the impression that Tesla is either a superb company or a lackluster company depending upon which post you read.

    I do know that their basic sound upgrade package runs around $2000 from my experience in the past. Depending upon specific requests and parts needs, the price can vary. These guys have designed $10,000 speakers that are super low profile. The big bonus is that your system can either be a standard upgrade which is proven and tested, or a completely custom experience that meets whatever needs you have, depending on the style of music you listen to.

    oh and a 6th point...I have ZERO regrets. I had a $&!#-eating grin on my face as I drove to work yesterday, listening to Mary J. Blige (Come to Me) and thought, "This song sounds so good!!"

    Hope this helps!
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  • May 29, 2013
    BirjuP

    How has this impacted your range? I know subs can be draining on a regular battery / alternator set up. Ive ordered the P85.
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  • May 29, 2013
    Jason S
    The amount of energy required for a sound system is soo small to not matter at all to the car's range. Heating/cooling matters much much more.
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  • May 30, 2013
    spatterso911
    No noticeable impact on range. No impact on the 12v either. I monitor the health of the 12v with a battery monitor.
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  • May 31, 2013
    ZestyChicken
  • May 31, 2013
    stevezzzz
  • Jun 1, 2013
    BirjuP
    Thanks for the prompt responses. Does this in any way void the warranty?
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  • Jul 16, 2013
    Adstein
    Update on Reus upgrades for the model S
    Spoke with Rick yesterday and they are coming to the Ny area soon, 2-3 weeks to do installs. Apparently between Teslive and these boards they have had a lot of interest so there will be some group buy discount.
    Anyone in the NY, NJ, CT area who is interested should contact Reus about details and scheduling the upgrade.
    Note that the group buy applies to any Tesla right now, not just the east coast ones.
    Can't wait to upgrade WattMe. I understand that the demo at Teslive was great.
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  • Jul 16, 2013
    darthvdr
    Curious about how they will handle any warranty claims since they are not local.
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  • Jul 16, 2013
    lloyds
  • Jul 16, 2013
    HHHH
    Man it's been a while since I've been on 6speed. Some of those Reus testimonials are downright scary. I haven't received my P85+ yet, but I'm a bit of an audiophile, I'll give a good listen and then decide if it's worth tinkering with the sound system.

    Normally, I mod all of my performance vehicles, but I think with Model S, I might just tint and go.
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  • Jul 16, 2013
    darthvdr
    I agree. I was actually considering the system before reading those testimonials. When it comes down to it, how a company presents itself is important, but the after service is even more critical. Out of curioisity how dark on the tint? I really don't think there's much that needs to be tinkered with on the P85+.
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  • Jul 16, 2013
    HHHH
    I live in Vegas so it gets pretty hot here, the legal limit is 35%, I've gone as dark as 20% on previous cars, but I think I'll just stick to 35% all the way around on this one, and maybe some light tint on the windshield like 60-70%. Like I said, I used to mod my cars extensively, but I think this car is pretty good on it's own. Unless the chrome door handles burn to the touch, I don't see myself wrapping those either.
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  • Jul 16, 2013
    lloyds
    He (Rick) was given many chances to make things right, but chose to do the wrong thing. So I am just sharing my experience. Your exp may be different.
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  • Jul 16, 2013
    Adstein
    Not much for me to say other than this has not been my experience. My boxster system was installed in NY when they said as they agreed. They have been totally transparent about timing and process for the MS. Their sound systems truly are musical with great sound stage.
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  • Jul 23, 2013
    Adstein
    For the doubters, Reus has just confirmed my NY install for next week exactly as agreed. Apparently there are at least 8 other Ny/Boston installs. I'll post my experience with the system once it is done.
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  • Jul 23, 2013
    JerryNycom
    Where in NY are you guys getting it done? What is the price range?
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  • Jul 23, 2013
    SUPRKAR
    I am going to get the Rues system as well. New Jersey just outside Staten Island is my location. Anyone in my area that wants a system can contact Cliff at Rues to set it up.
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  • Jul 23, 2013
    Adstein
    My install will be in Nassau county at the same detailing shop where they did my other car years ago. I am getting a $4k system with the dual woofers, replaced amp, replaced midrange, tweeters and a few other items.
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  • Jul 23, 2013
    HHHH
    look forward to your review.
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  • Jul 23, 2013
    aaron.s
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    I'm going to be picking Cliff up at the airport and helping him as much as I can to shuttle him to the various locations he will do installs, including Westchester NY, Boston MA, NJ, West Chester PA (possibly) and MD....

    Aaron
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  • Aug 6, 2013
    Mayhemm
    Well, it's been a couple weeks. How did it go?
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  • Aug 6, 2013
    Bobfitz1
    Thank you Adstein! This is great news as a premium sedan like the MS deserves great tunes. Will keep an eye out for your review/report when you have the Reus stereo installed. Given your taste in music, one day soon you will be zooming along some good driving road blasting 'Going Mobile' by the Who!
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  • Aug 6, 2013
    artsci
    Cliff will be doing my install of the Reus system early next week in northern Va. He's working his way down from Boston doing installations along the way. I hope to observe the work while it's being done and take photos of the various steps. In anticipation my entire CD collection (about 550) is being ripped to AIFF files on a 1TB hard drive that will be mounted in the Soflauthor's CCI.
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  • Aug 6, 2013
    sp4rk
    Is the cost $2,500 to $3,500 as they were suggesting at Teslive?
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  • Aug 6, 2013
    artsci
    With the TESLIVE attendance discount ($599), yes, for the basic hardware and installation. But if you add in the charges for Cliff's transportation etc it goes up about $500.
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  • Aug 6, 2013
    Adstein
    I am traveling so haven't had time for a full review. Summary is excellent! Cliff spent close to 8 hours on the install and was meticulous in making sure the sound was perfect and to my liking. Looking at my car you would not know that it had been touched, listening to it you would have no doubt that it is in a different class of fidelity.
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  • Aug 6, 2013
    AmpedRealtor
    Since Tesla's sound upgrade includes software DSP processing to compensate for the vehicle's interior - and presumably tuned to the specific speakers Tesla included with the vehicle - how do you guys think future updates to the sound system from Tesla will interact with your custom upgrades? I mean, if Tesla changes the way the audio software processes audio based on an assumption of the type of speakers that are in the system, could that cause trouble with the custom audio stuff?
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  • Aug 6, 2013
    swegman
    I had asked Reus Audio that exact question over a month ago and got a reply to not worry, that their system would automatically detect any changes from Tesla and make appropriate adjustments. I seriously question such a statement, since they do not continuously monitor the sound in the cabin to make on-the-fly adjustments.
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  • Aug 6, 2013
    yobigd20
    /agreed.
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  • Aug 6, 2013
    irishstoutaz
    We listened to the system at TESLIVE and were interested and gave our card to Rick. Based on no response in now almost 4 weeks and seeing some of the previous reviews, I would be seriously reluctant to spend any money with them. They were supposed to publish a TESLIVE group discount amount and the only thing I have now seen is artsci's post. Good luck to everyone... hope it works out.
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  • Aug 6, 2013
    nkohlimd
    So I can't comment on past or future experiences but I can share mine. Had the Reus system installed today. Cliff from Reus has been communicating with me reliably and regularly for the last 6 weeks. Got a list if available upgrades depending on my car configuration. I have the P85 with rear jump seats and SS system. Rick arranged for 3 cars to be installed while in about on. We went out for a drink the night before the install. Nice guy who clearly enjoys his work and is very knowledgable. Love the fact he subscribes to the "less is more" philosophy. We arranged for him to show up at the house at 9:30 while I was at work. My wife gave him access to the car and garage. I had a half day so went home around 1 PM as he was finishing up. install includes replacement of the A pillar leakers, installation of a small center channel speaker in the rear view mirror stalk pushing music into the front windshield to create the front sound stage, replacement of the rear subwoofer with a long throw 8" woofer, and placement of a 400 watt amp in the L rear section of the trunk. Also added crossovers, subwoofer control, and direct wiring of the amp to the 12 v battery. Install was pristine and no signs of modification except for the rear view mirror speaker. That's the only sign of the Reus system. He then spent 30-40 mins tuning the car using his own music and my USB stick. Sounds amazing! Completely in a different class! I live 3 miles from the local Tesla store so we went there and had one of the store managers Saul come out and compare the normal SS to Reus. He is a car and music junkie and was blown away. Basically told Cliff to give him his card and was going to let other owners know. Quite the endorsement. I have just sat in the car all evening listening to different tunes and been amazed. Cost is $3700 including your share of travel expenses which will vary. Considering the SS is now 2500, I would strongly urge prospective buyers to pass and consider the Reus system. You will not be disappointed and I do hope you have the chance to hear it locally before making a decision either way. Very happy and now just hope I can get the PDC to complete the car. Have made many fun modifications with help and guidance of TMC members and will post a video this weekend. Expecting custom mats recommended by another TMC member and lighted nosecone beta test kit from artsci in the next few weeks. Tesla is the new ultimate driving machine. Just my 2 cents. Cheers!

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    One other thing, Cliff said the speakers are essentially tuned so software updates should not affect the sound especially since you can basically put all settings to default. He tuned my system to all 0 on the equalizer and even balance on the faders. Up to me if I want to change those settings. I have no miss assumptions that his his system will magically and dynamically adapt to any software update. It will respond just like the SS or any other aftermarket system. Hope that helps.......
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  • Aug 6, 2013
    Mayhemm
    So with the new system you continue to use the touchscreen for all functions (volume, equalizer, etc) it just sounds better coming out the other end? Was there any loss/reconfiguration of storage space due to the new equipment, or did Reus basically put their stuff back in the existing locations in the car?

    I'm definitely interested in the system (especially now that the Tesla SS is $2800CAD) but, given my location, getting it installed is going to be tough. I guess if a group of people were getting an install done somewhere close to the USA/CANADA border I could probably make the trip...

    UPDATE: Does the Reus system still include satellite radio? This is the only other thing included with the Tesla package that is of interest to me. It would be awesome if they could set the system up for Sirius instead of XM (much better reception in Canada)!
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  • Aug 7, 2013
    nkohlimd
    The basic stereo system and all controls through the screen are unchanged. The Reus system only changes the quality in stating of the sound and does not affect functionality or controls. Thus, XM is not added. Hope that helps.
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  • Aug 7, 2013
    Mayhemm
    Bummer. Thanks.

    Now I'm in a fix. I really want Sat radio (for those long trips through areas of no AM/FM/Cellular coverage), but I don't want to pay nearly $3K for the privilege. Could Reus add a Sat radio module for extra cost?
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  • Aug 7, 2013
    nkohlimd
    Not sure, you could always stream XM via bluetooth from your cellphone....hopefully Tesla will integrate the cell into the central screen more in future updates.
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  • Aug 7, 2013
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  • Aug 7, 2013
    Mayhemm
    This would probably suffice except for needing Cellular coverage in order for the app to work.

    Where I need SatRadio is where there are no other signals (radio, 3G, etc.) available.
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  • Aug 9, 2013
    Electric1
    Looks like you may need an aftermarket sat. Adapter. Unfortunately I am told that the Tesla radio doesn't use a standard connector for the antenna which would make the install harder.
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  • Aug 10, 2013
    Mayhemm
    That....is disappointing, but not really surprising. There are some strange design choices on this car (don't even get me started on the 12V battery)
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  • Aug 10, 2013
    gtimbers
    To anyone with the Reus install: did you see how they got access to the existing audio system? Is it done from the top of the dash down or by going in from underneath. Looks to me like the entire top dash pad is removable but I don't want to pull it if that is not the right way in. Any input would be appreciated.
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  • Aug 11, 2013
    artsci
    Mine will be installed this evening. I don't think the dash has to be removed but I'll be watching and assisting. To be fair it won't be appropriate to reveal any information the Reus considers proprietary.
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  • Aug 11, 2013
    gtimbers
    Of course. I just want to know how to get to the stuff. I am capable of making all of the alterations I need myself. I just want to know how to gain access to the back side of the screen. It has to be from underneath or down from the top. I would love to know the location of the power amps also.
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  • Aug 11, 2013
    lloyds
    I'll throw in my 2 cents again. Just be careful w/ Rick's company. Make sure you don't give him a large deposit and have everything put in writing to protect yourselves especially if you are far from him in Southern California. Warranty in writing specifically and what he covers - get it on paper. I just don't want to see anyone from this community get burned by him like I did several years ago.
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  • Aug 12, 2013
    artsci
    I had the system installed yesterday. There's been absolutely nothing in my experience that suggests Reus can't be trusted. In fact, quite the contrary. I wired my deposit a few weeks ago and paid the balance with a check yesterday after Cliff Johnson installed the system and had completed tuning it to my satisfaction. Cliff also said that I didn't have to give him a check and that I could wire the balance.

    Cliff was in constant touch via email about scheduling the installation. I picked him up in Baltimore yesterday (Aaron had drive him down here from New Jersey) and we drove together to the installation site (the lovely home of another owner in Virginia). I forgot my wallet so I had no cash and no credit cards. Cliff bought me lunch and lent me $50 as a safety valve for the trip home late last night. He also fixed my faulty install of the Inavi FXD900 dash cam and reran all of the cables under the front windshield for the Inavi and the front camera so that they would not impede the side airbag curtains, all for no extra cost.So Reus totally trusted me in questionable circumstances that were of my own doing.

    I observed the entire installation and took dozens of photos, and I've added a separate post on the installation, the care given to avoiding even the most minor cosmetic damage to parts of the car that are completely hidden from view, and the outstanding quality of the work.

    And, of course, the sound of the new system is on whole other level above the Sound Studio system Tesla installs. I saw the Tesla components (tweeters and subwoofer) and the quality of the Reus hardware is much, much higher.
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  • Aug 12, 2013
    Fluxed
    Let me guess..... the Tesla drivers that came out are paper cone drivers.....? I am definitely interested in doing this on my newly delivered P85+. Any one else in the Dallas area interested in a group buy? The stock "sound studio" in my car is probably one of the worst "premium audio" setups I have ever heard.
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  • Aug 12, 2013
    EMDoc
    Agree with Artsci. I posted a thread in May about having the upgrade done at Reus in OC. They can be trusted and the sound is fantastic.

    Fluxed - Funny you mention paper and cone drivers. Tesla says they are neodymium magnets. The thing is...at Reus's shop the owner Rick walked my buddy and I through a bench setup of tweeters hooked up to music. He had for reference the Burmeister tweeters out of the porsche panamera, B&O out of audi...and my point is that we could not believe our ears because what looked like cheap paper and cone tweeters sounded the best. In fact, the best tweeters are over 20 yrs old. I can't really explain it on the forums very well...but lets say my friend and I were astounded by the demo. Some of the best speakers were actually paper and cone. I know it is hard to believe and you don't have to take my word for it. I recommend anyone who is interested in the upgrade to pay Reus a visit at their shop and check out the demo. I think you will be quite surprised as to what makes a "quality" sound system. For anyone into sound, a trip to check out Reus is a must if you around OC.
    And also, the testing of the Tesla speakers reveal they are really good quality! Just that Reus has better hi-fi tweeters for the setup and so those are the only ones they recommend replacing for most users.
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  • Aug 12, 2013
    lloyds
    That's great to hear artsci. We did a group buy several years ago and we all got burned by Rick. Phone calls and emails became sporadic towards the end. It was just a bad situation for all of us. Eventually several of us gave up while one actually hired an attorney (not sure how that turned out). Perhaps Rick learned from his mistakes and is now very careful with these group buys and the internet. I'm sure Rick's seeing my posts and know who we are.

    Here's our story:
    http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/gt3-gt2-gt/193867-reus-audio.html
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  • Aug 27, 2013
    Robert.Boston
    The touchscreen is still Command Central. Reus does add one analog control, a knob on the lower left front of the driver's seat to adjust the subwoofer volume. That's very useful, because at full volume, it'll take out your fillings.

    Almost everything Reus adds is into existing locations. They do use up parts of the "footwell" area in the rear, though, because they add their subwoofer, rather than taking out Tesla's. Reus also adds some components that close off the gap between the left-hand well and the footwell.
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  • Aug 28, 2013
    TommyBoy
    I just read that thread about the Reus fraud and it is bewildering. It bothered me that he simply stopped calling people back and checks bounced. Not just one person - but several. It almost seems like two different people so I wonder what the underlying cause was (divorce, medical, drugs, gambling, stock losses, etc.).

    I'm local enough to OC to have this system added but I don't want to do business with anybody shady like that. Things seem fine now but unless he clears up his past I'll look elsewhere.
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  • Sep 9, 2013
    texex91
    Okay I'm completely confused??? Are these guys legit or not??
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  • Sep 11, 2013
    pnlyee
    I had a Reus system installed in my Model S on Aug 23 at their Orange, CA facility. They are located in an industrial strip in an older part of Orange. Their facility is just some office space in the front with a large workshop/installation area in back. It is certainly not a retail store/showroom. It was just a plain industrial facility. While my system was being installed there were three Ferrari 458 Spiders and one Toyota minivan being upgraded. Cliff did the installation and allowed me to watch and question every step in the process. Their only request was that I not post any pictures of the system. I guess they are concerned about the competition copying their approach/system.

    I went with the Reus system since it retained all of the factory components and functionality. From a sound perspective, it is certainly an upgrade. It sounds good, but it still cannot compete with my home audiophile system. I am very satisfied with the system even though it could be better at the expense of a lot of custom work and cutting which I was not willing to do.

    As far as payment goes, I did not pay anything until the system was completely installed and tested. So no worries like others on the web. Since the system is an add-on the the factory system with simple components, I don't expect to have any warranty issues since I won't be driving the system to its limits. I want to keep my hearing.
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  • Sep 11, 2013
    gbdesai
    So how long did the install take?
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  • Sep 11, 2013
    pnlyee
    I arrived at 9 a.m. and left a few minutes before 1 p.m. So about four hours. This includes the 30-45 minutes we spent driving around adjusting the system to perform properly with the wind and tire noise.
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  • Sep 11, 2013
    gbdesai
    Nice, thanks for the info. May be worth a drive down to see them...
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  • Sep 11, 2013
    pnlyee
    If you do visit them, have them arrange one of their Model S installs there when you show up. He seems to have a friend who has a Model S with the system installed who is willing to drive over to let you do a side by side comparison of the factory system to the upgraded system. You will need to bring some music which you are familiar with on a USB memory stick to do the comparison to see if the upgrade is worthwhile or not.

    I would also suggesting bringing a clip of white or pink noise on your USB memory stick and a sound level meter or app on smart phone. This way you can balance the level in your Model S with that of his friend so that the comparision will not be biased due one system playing louder or softer than the other which tends to change our perception. It allows for a better comparison.
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  • Jun 13, 2014
    theamitsagar
    Does anyone know how the Reus system sounds with lossy sources such as Bluetooth and FM HD? I have the standard system and the soundstage is shallow but I don't want to shell out the money if it lossy sources sound the same because I don't listen to many FLACS, WAVS, etc.
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  • Jun 14, 2014
    SPtheALIEN
    It actually sounds pretty good. I auditioned RandyS's system a few evenings ago with some bluetooth audio and it sounds good. Of course, you still need a pretty good BT source. I was pushing around 360 kbps VBR files and it sounded really good. Seems to have a penchant for the female timbre.
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  • Aug 5, 2015
    Industry1755
    Hey everybody!

    I'm in the process of finalizing my purchase of my Tesla Model S from a buddy of mine and one thing I'm looking to upgrade right away is the sound system. I've been following these forums pretty closely, over the past few days, and I'm really looking for more feedback on the NVX package. Is it worth it? Does the bass cause any rattling over time? Any issues with battery drain that you've noticed? Is the installation process something that I can handle on my own with limited technical knowledge? And finally, anybody know of any spots on the NorCal area that specialize in these type of upgrades?

    Thanks so much for your input, in advance!
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  • Aug 6, 2015
    smsprague
    I am very happy with it definitely worth it in my opinion. It took the guys who designed it 4 hours to install mine. I would not have attempted the install myself.
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  • Aug 6, 2015
    MrJones390
    The guys at Reus managed to fix the wind & tire noise in my car as well :wink:
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  • Aug 6, 2015
    boonedocks
    I purchased the basic audio option from the factory with the idea to upgrade it later. (hopefully better than the factory HD uprade) I have been emailing with Cliff and will have a Reus system installed on his next trip out to the Atlanta GA area. One quick question for those that have a Reus system installed. Could you take a picture of the "Subwoofer Control" that is part of Stage 2 and above. I really don't want a knob or control that looks too aftermarket. Also how well does the basic bass slider control in the Tesla audio system control the Reus subwoofer.

    Cheers,
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  • Aug 6, 2015
    spatterso911
    The sub control is not openly visible, and you will completely forget that it is there. The install is very clean. The bass slider control has direct effects on the bass response, including the sub, although you will likely keep it at 0.
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  • Aug 8, 2015
    TaoJones
    What he said. If you didn't know what it was, you'd think it was part of the seat controls package. My sub control knob is just forward of the seat's lumbar control. You can reach it easily, yet it's completely unobtrusive.

    Also as above, I've left my bass setting at zero.

    Once you get your Reus upgrade, try a lossless* "Giorgio by Moroder" by Daft Punk, starting at 1:50, for a good, bass-calibrating (and everything else) bit of merriment.

    * maybe from HDTracks.com or similar.
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  • Aug 29, 2015
    mmccord
  • Aug 29, 2015
    ocstig
    Hi, if you email me at [email�protected] I will send you an updated price list. We do have a new system for your vehicle configuration.

    Cliff
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