Oct 3, 2012
djp Double - DIN Upgrade Tesla Motors
Does anyone know if this is the Alpine, or a new head unit?�
Oct 3, 2012
dsm363 Pricey too. From the picture that looks like the Alpine unit included in the 2.5 tech package.�
Oct 3, 2012
nikwest If it is the Alpine unit I would not recommend it to anybody. Not for half the price.�
Oct 3, 2012
Doug_G Yeah, I can't really see spending $4,800 to upgrade from a sucky JVC single-DIN to a sucky Alpine double-DIN. Too bad.�
Oct 3, 2012
AnOutsider Would the general double din upgrade mean you can then slot a better unit in there? Maybe you can get the parts for the dash change and buy your own nav unit.�
Oct 3, 2012
dsm363 If that's possible, that's what I'd do. Maybe they'll sell you the double din upgrade without the Alpine unit (which really sucks) for less and let you choose something else. Alpine does have a newer unit with Pandora on it but likely the same thing as the old one in terms of user-interface.�
Oct 3, 2012
bonnie You would have to pay me to take another Alpine unit.�
Oct 3, 2012
vfx To replace my stock Blaujunk radio this is exactly what I have been waiting for.
Only better.�
Oct 3, 2012
wiztecy I'm still happy with my Blaupunk...although disappointed that bluetooth is only for phone calls and not audio streams like Pandora. WTF? Who puts such a limited feature in like that. Looking to see if I can put an amp into the Roadster to get more response from the speakers. Haven't heard back from Tesla if I can do that on the 1.5 or not. I like a simple head unit and use my phone for navigation and pandora /mp3 streaming. That way I keep my upgrade path inexpensive.
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Oct 3, 2012
dsm363 How can a company put out a $1,200 product that is at the top of the price range in its category that sucks so bad? Tesla should somehow scale down their nav from the Model S to a 7" screen for the Roadster. Not sure if that is possible.�
Oct 3, 2012
vfx This is a cool idea.
Will it open my top?�
Oct 3, 2012
dsm363 Maybe but only once. A few well placed charges could blow the top off in a second.�
Oct 3, 2012
PRJIM I have seen a Double Din app radio, that basically displays your Iphone Apps on the radio display. The radio allows for swiping, pinching, zooming etc. It was pretty inexpensive (<$400). I can't seem to find it now!�
Oct 3, 2012
Doug_G Well, in a way that's better than the JVC, which pretends that it can stream audio. It skips and jumps so much that it's intolerable to listen to. And it also intercepts your telephone calls so that you can't hear them, and they can't hear you.�
Oct 4, 2012
Andrew Wolfe Turns out the $4800 is just parts. Closer to $7K installed.
I'm still trying to get the details about what is included.�
Oct 4, 2012
dsm363 Hmm. I'm not sure that is worth it. That $400 iPhone solution that someone posted in a different Roadster thread would work maybe.�
Oct 4, 2012
AnOutsider Ouch but might be worth it if you want the dash to look "right"�
Oct 4, 2012
vfx Was told that it's the latest model unit.�
Oct 4, 2012
dsm363 Looks like this is new top of the line from Alpine
Alpine Electronics of America, Inc.
updated version of one found in Roadster 2.5
Alpine Electronics of America, Inc.�
Oct 4, 2012
Doug_G Wow. I think it's great that they're offering upgrades, but Wow.
I think my solution is better: turn off the radio and ignore the oft-incorrect GPS. If I really need to navigate then I bring a Garmin.�
Oct 4, 2012
vfx
The Tesla site says 7" screen so that would exclude the first one at 8".�
Oct 4, 2012
dsm363 You're right. Couldn't tell at first if the bezel was thinner and they crammed a larger screen in there but looks the same.�
Oct 4, 2012
Andrew Wolfe That first unit is larger than Double DIN. There are two - A 7" upgrade of the one in the 2.5 and a 6" model that has the DVD slot above instead of behind the display. I'm trying to find out which one will be installed.
Did the original 2.5 Alpine package include a subwoofer and a standalone amp? Did the door tweeters come with that package as well? Were the other speakers the same Blaupunkt units I have or something different?�
Oct 4, 2012
PRJIM The original 2.5 Alpine package came with a standalone Rockford Fosgate amp- this is the same amp that was included in the 1.5 and 2.0 Roadsters. Tesla Service has been adding Alpine part no: KTP-445 (Power Pack) to all Roadsters with the Alpine package.�
Oct 4, 2012
markwj This is the one I want:
Parrot unveils Asteroid Smart, Tablet and Mini car infotainment systems, we go hands-on -- Engadget
Use USB to an OVMS module, and run the OVMS App on the touch screen. Nice big digital speedo (100% accurate), charge control, etc, etc. Nice.�
Oct 4, 2012
Andrew Wolfe From Tesla:
The Alpine unit is the same as the 2.5 roadsters IVA-NAV-10. It includes all antennas required to support the satellite radio and HD radio.
This upgrade does not include an external amp or sub. If your roadster is already equipped with an amp, we will tap into the existing amp. A sub is also not included. To have the original sub installed requires the battery pack to be removed to access the driver rear quarter panel, where the original sub is located.�
Oct 6, 2012
DrTaras Its amazing how the thread veered off into discussion of the main unit, Alpine. The hard part is moving everything, the easy part is deciding on what brand you want... oh, unless you go to Tesla's late-to-the-party, one size-fits-all approach! Yes, mine is a 3 year old Alpine unit, but Elie can put in virtually any brand you want. He's probably worked on more Teslas (including now the Model S) than all other after marketers combined!
http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/showthread.php/2399-Customized-Roadsters/page4?p=40337&viewfull=1#post40337
Some of the old timers will remember when Elon sat in my car at the Model S unveiling and and looked at Franz and asked why Tesla had not made a double DIN and moved the air vents to the top instead of the front of the dash? They did not structurally think it could be done. Then Franz visited Al & Ed's corporate HQ, and after that the 2.5 interior was born! I still think the AE edition double DIN looks better than Tesla 2.5, but I realize that beauty is in the eye of the beholder!
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Oct 6, 2012
bonnie Thanks for the info - I'll probably both repaint and get the interior upgraded after receiving my Model X. And it will be Al & Ed's that I talk to.�
Oct 6, 2012
DrTaras If you want to take a 'fresh' look at your Roadster for less money, think of a wrap instead of a paint job. Hundreds instead of thousands and you can do it more on a whim.�
Oct 7, 2012
jbini1 I was gonna paint mine white. I've painted every car I've owned since most cars don't come white. But for a tesla idk if its worth it. The paint will never be as hard as factory, and could lower the value. Better off getting factory replacements if you can. I doubt the whole car is toast.�
Oct 7, 2012
7racer since Tesla can make the screen in the Model S, wouldn't it be nice if they made a version for the Roadster?!?�
Oct 7, 2012
jory my understanding was that the roadster paint was intentionally not hard but rather relatively soft in order to accommodate the flex of the CF body panels.�
Oct 7, 2012
bonnie What car is 'toast'?
Yep, it is a soft paint. There are also a few shops that have successfully repainted a number of Roadsters & understand the issues (including heat). I'm not planning on a major change, just refreshing it. Still will be white, maybe pearlized. I'm not going to really think about it until my X is in the driveway.�
Oct 8, 2012
W.Petefish Exactly. (and it can be changed on a whim.)�
Oct 8, 2012
Andrew Wolfe I'm not sure it is "hundreds" though. Mine was wrapped by the previous owner and I've been told it was $3500. Others have confirmed that this is what a professional, full wrap goes for.�
Oct 8, 2012
ipdamages When Elie upgraded my interior/dash to allow me to put in a Double-DIN a year ago, we put in the Pioneer AVIC-Z130BT. I am very happy with it.
Amazon.com: Pioneer AVIC-Z130BT 7 In-Dash Navigation AV Receiver with iPod/iPhone Control, Bluetooth, Pandora: Car Electronics�
Oct 8, 2012
DrTaras Correct; depends on the extent of the wrap and who you go to to get the special "Tesla Hook-Up!" :biggrin:
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Proving my point in my previous post that the name of the unit is the easy thing to swap... unless of course you go with the one-sized fits-all Tesla dealer retrofit
PS-Love the leather wrinkles that make it look like that leather must be soft like butter!�
Oct 9, 2012
W.Petefish If y'all removed all of the old alpine equipment and put in the new pioneer equipment, you've just gained 100W of power. (the pioneer uses way less power, at least by the fuse ratings.)�
Oct 9, 2012
dsm363 I'm waiting for a system that is lightyears ahead of everything else in terms of user-interface and features before bother to replace the crappy Alpine. The Pioneer does looks nice though.�
Oct 9, 2012
7racer W.Petefish, is that what you have in your car?�
Oct 9, 2012
W.Petefish That is the exact model that I have.
Other items that need to be installed for full functionality:
Alpine Camera interface
sirius connect interface
If you remove the parrot bluetooth module, you gain 105W alone. (again, based on fuses.)
Fuse based max power consumption:
Alpine Equipment - ~284.2W (discounting the Rockford Amp)
Pioneer Equipment - ~175.3W (again, discounting the Rockford Amp)�
Oct 9, 2012
vfx The Amazon 1 star ratings all say the NAV is horrible. Do you use it?�
Oct 9, 2012
ipdamages No, I don't, but that is because I prefer my handheld/Android. I have never really tried to use the Pioneer nav feature.�
Oct 10, 2012
W.Petefish Pioneer isn't the best for NAV but is for sound quality.�
Oct 11, 2012
augkuo
I have this Pioneer unit in my car - Pioneer AVH-P6300BT DVD receiver at Crutchfield.com
It has Ipod connectivity so you can use it for NAV and it displays on the screen (ie Waze), and I have front/rear cameras hooked up to it as well. I never got the NAV add-on because I use my iphone anyway.�
Oct 11, 2012
vfx I rely heavily on the car NAV and want good reception but don't care to much about sound quality.�
Oct 11, 2012
dsm363 Sony makes a unit that uses TomTom Nav. Not sure how good the reviews are though.�
Oct 12, 2012
vfx Thanks Dave:
First one I found has even worse reviews. Sigh
http://www.amazon.com/Sony-XNV-770BT-Bluetooth-Integrated-Navigation/product-reviews/B0046A9RA4/ref=cm_cr_dp_qt_hist_one?ie=UTF8&filterBy=addOneStar&showViewpoints=0
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Nov 4, 2012
jory i saw a car getting its double din upgrade at menlo park this week. the owner had opted to install a different head unit than the standard one. i asked how they handled that and the service manager said they just deduct the cost of the head unit. he mentioned they prefer the same brand of head unit for accessory compatibility but it did not sound like a requirement. i took some photos of the install, but they are on my other computer which is having some issues. i'll try to add them to this post at a later date.�
Nov 4, 2012
smorgasbord From what little I've read, the Alpine unit in Roadster has non-standard connectors for things like the backup camera. Alpine has a new unit out, and I've briefly flirted with the idea of replacing mine with the new one. However, I haven't heard if the new unit fixes the things I hate about my current unit:
1) Can't use iPhone via cable if bluetooth is on. Have to plug, unplug, replug the phone every time.
2) Volume controls don't work for several seconds when the unit powers on.
3) Phone control works when your first program it, then it doesn't.
Then there's a bunch of UI things (3 pages for the soft buttons, etc.) that I know Alpine won't fix, but if the above are fixed I would consider an upgrade.�
Nov 5, 2012
Andrew Wolfe Could have been mine. (or maybe not - there are 2 custom installs underway)
Both are newer Alpine units - so pretty familiar to Tesla. Mine is the INE-S920HD while the other one is the INA-W910. I'll let everyone know how it turns out soon.�
Nov 5, 2012
dsm363 Hadn't heard of the INE-S920HD before. Actually sounds decent from the few reviews I saw.�
Nov 18, 2012
Bradleybang
Have you gotten your tesla back with the INE-S920HD? Review please?�
Nov 20, 2012
djp From the Alpine website it looks like the INE-S920HD and INE-Z928HD have the new software, while the INA-W910 is on an older version. The 920 has physical knobs & buttons and a 6.1" screen. The 928 looks similar but with no physical controls and a 8" screen, which unfortunately is a wasted opportunity since the resolution is the same as the 920 (800x480).
The INE-S920HD looks like the best option by the specs. Love to see a review.
Alpine Electronics of America, Inc.�
Nov 20, 2012
dhrivnak Actually Crutchfiled has it on it's website and they give the unit quite high reviews. Alpine INE-S920HD Navigation receiver at Crutchfield.com
. I have used Crutchfiled several times and have found them to be quite good.�
Nov 21, 2012
markwj Can anyone who has swapped out the head unit confirm how Tesla handled it? Were they happy to put in whatever unit the owner wanted?
That Parrot Asteroid 2U looks like a really nice base for some EV-specific extensions.
Parrot - Parrot ASTEROID Smart�
Nov 22, 2012
Andrew Wolfe Yes. I'll do a review with pictures next week - but mini-review: It turned out excellent.
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The INE-Z928HD is really a special form factor for pickup trucks and full-size SUVs.�
Nov 22, 2012
dsm363 Thanks. Can you comment on the user interface and the Nav as well? I'll probably stick with the current one for now but nice to know what is out there.�
Dec 3, 2012
Andrew Wolfe No full review yet - but here are some photos.
I am very happy with the sound - due mostly to new Focal speakers.
As far as UI - it is not bad. I still don't have the phone UI fully working but calls come in. Pandora works over BT with a full UI. Ipod works fine but I'm not yet sure if power is maintained when the car is off or if the iPod is powered down when you turn off the car. Have not tried a CD or DVD.
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Dec 3, 2012
djp Nice!
Are those the Focal IS 130s? And did you get coaxial speakers for the rears? I'm tempted to do the same.�
Dec 3, 2012
dsm363 Thanks Andrew. Did you upgrade from the stock Alpine INA W910? It sounds like it is definitely a step up in the UI.�
Dec 3, 2012
PRJIM It looks like the car is 1.5 so he probably had a JVC hu.�
Dec 4, 2012
dsm363 Thanks. I didn't go far enough back in the thread I guess. It's definitely something to keep in mind though for a future upgrade.�
Dec 4, 2012
Andrew Wolfe I had the base Blaupunkt Hamburg MP57. No amp, sub, or door speakers. Mine is a 1.5 with no electronics package.
Now added:
Alpine INE-S920HD
Alpine KTP-445U "Power Pack�
Rearview camera (from Tesla)
Focal Performance PC 100 4� speakers front and back.
Focal KIT TNI 1.5 door tweeters
Double-Din dash mod.
Alpine unit included a bluetooth mike and a USB cable which I added an iPod adapter to.
The Focal IC130/PC130 are 130mm speakers. The old ones were 100mm - so that's what I kept. Has anyone installed larger speakers?�
Feb 7, 2013
djp Andrew inspired me to do the same with my Roadster. I had been thinking of doing the carbon fibre upgrade for a while to dress up the interior, so when I saw an option for a double DIN upgrade with improved Alpine I decided to pull the trigger. I picked up the car from the Toronto Service Centre this afternoon. The final result was impressive - it was like getting a new car. Eli, Lisa & team did a fantastic job. And as an unexpected side benefit all the interior squeaks and rattles are gone!
Here are a few before & after shots:
BEFORE
AFTER
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Apr 13, 2013
markwj Parrot Smart is now available, so time to work out how to install it...
First problem is backup camera. Anyone know of an adaptor for the existing Alpine camera to standard RCA video?�
Apr 15, 2013
7racer The Parrot looks great! how far are you along on installing it?�
Apr 16, 2013
markwj Waiting for delivery. Hopefully Friday.
Then, it goes on my bench and I'm gonna triple check every feature - make sure it does everything I need. Music, Bluetooth, apps should be fine - but a little worried about Hong Kong nav (although it has waze and google maps). People have side loaded tomtom (which would be fine), but for some bizarre reason Android tomtom doesn't list HK maps (while iOS does). I've been using waze this week, and it is surprisingly good.
Last thing to work out is reversing camera. I suspect I'll need to pull a new one as the Alpine has a very wired non-standard connector/signal.
I'm also planning on moving the iPhone up to the windscreen area.�
Apr 18, 2013
7racer that's awesome Mark!
maybe make a new thread once as you go along....I might go this route too. Is this a pretty simple DIY install?�
Apr 18, 2013
EVGuy Yes its very simple, If you run into any problems just post up or if you have any question just ask, I'd be more then willing to help.�
Apr 18, 2013
markwj Good idea:
Parrot Asteroid SMART 2DIN Head Unit�
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